Simon Jordan Explains Why the Glazers are NOT Entirely to Blame for Manchester United's DECLINE! 😳🔥

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TalkSPORT's Simon Jordan discusses why Manchester United owners, the Glazer family are not entirely at fault for the decline in the club's form.
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  • @AM.10
    @AM.109 ай бұрын

    I blame the glazers for failing to hire the right people who would create the right structure for signings and youth development , they have wasted over 1billion by hiring the wrong people to run the club.

  • @tevildo45
    @tevildo459 ай бұрын

    Jordan excusing bad owners, shocker, he was a terrible owner himself

  • @oufc90

    @oufc90

    9 ай бұрын

    I admit I could be wrong as I don’t know much about his time owning Palace, but didn’t he help save the club from going under and then help them win promotion to the Premier League?

  • @tevildo45

    @tevildo45

    9 ай бұрын

    He left them in administration. He had one season as prem owner and has dined out on that for 15 years

  • @goncaloamaral7846

    @goncaloamaral7846

    9 ай бұрын

    Utd fans said that about Martin Edwards if you read his book

  • @fyarlynx

    @fyarlynx

    9 ай бұрын

    🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

  • @norwoodboy6048

    @norwoodboy6048

    9 ай бұрын

    At least he could be an owner in the first place because he is a self made millionaire.

  • @nigelhaworth1353
    @nigelhaworth13539 ай бұрын

    Strange take. If the people they employ aren’t good enough and they leave them in post it is their fault. If they went tomorrow the club would no longer be in huge debt and money wouldn’t be disappearing in dividends. The Arnolds and Murtoughs of the world could be replaced by “best in class”. Would all these things help improve the club - of course they would

  • @canadaman3

    @canadaman3

    9 ай бұрын

    He’s just being obtuse and contrarian to create outrage and enhance his own brand.

  • @Dugiesrevenge

    @Dugiesrevenge

    9 ай бұрын

    What makes you think that new owners won’t do the same?

  • @nigelhaworth1353

    @nigelhaworth1353

    9 ай бұрын

    As no other owner in the PL takes dividends and no other owner in the PL has cost a club nearly a billion in interest payments I’d suggest the odds say it’s pretty unlikely that the next owners would be as bad as the Glazers.

  • @suse8270

    @suse8270

    9 ай бұрын

    A reason they made an anti Glazers cause 😂contradicted yourself there simon looking for clicks .

  • @dillbob321

    @dillbob321

    9 ай бұрын

    This would be a great take if Jordan didn't live in the world that every owner does everything right at every possible time

  • @DP-wo7rz
    @DP-wo7rz9 ай бұрын

    Liverpool were judged by those standards for the first 15 years they went without a title. Similarly, Man Utd expectations will diminish as the years go by.

  • @DilbertWhitehead

    @DilbertWhitehead

    9 ай бұрын

    You came back though to win it so we should too. Its just whether the Glazers will let us

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    Man U have spent over 1b net most out any club over last 10 year and that will be glazers fault also it’s gettin pish manager like ten haag with negative football that’s the problem

  • @hotmess2766

    @hotmess2766

    9 ай бұрын

    United will be back soon. Be sure of it. We ain't Liverpool 😂 Glazers will be gone imminently!! Best believe! GGMU

  • @kaisersolo76

    @kaisersolo76

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Chris-vz3ce lol behave yourself.

  • @AJ-nd4nk

    @AJ-nd4nk

    9 ай бұрын

    Liverpool at least competed with Europe's best even when they went without a domestic title. United don't seem capable of that.

  • @phoenix2225
    @phoenix22259 ай бұрын

    Simon Jordan the protector of owners 😂

  • @richyclubsport5155

    @richyclubsport5155

    9 ай бұрын

    He's speaking facts if you don't like it tough

  • @OfficialFA

    @OfficialFA

    9 ай бұрын

    Man Utd supporters just complain too much. It's kind of annoying... Glazers should stay as long as they like😂

  • @stephenmason9527

    @stephenmason9527

    9 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah, but the fans who never have anything but criticism for owners aren't bias right?

  • @phoenix2225

    @phoenix2225

    9 ай бұрын

    @@stephenmason9527 whose issue is we are not spending anything. Look at Chelsea, if we spend even half of that ten Haag would have been properly playing his style … now he is like hands tied behind

  • @seanmcdowell6207

    @seanmcdowell6207

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​@@phoenix2225you have the highest spend in 10years, ten hags team has had probably like 400m invested in it, saying oh if we spend more it will fix our issues its stupid, ten hag plays dull boring football cause he chose to, no ones forcing him to play that way, when pep came in he stuck to his style so did klopp, ten hag hasnt, hes a good manager, but nothing near great at the moment

  • @barrybutter6906
    @barrybutter69069 ай бұрын

    At 06:36 could have sworn that was DAVID BRENT defending himself! Haha 😂

  • @Mike-up6hw
    @Mike-up6hw9 ай бұрын

    Eth out

  • @spark556
    @spark5569 ай бұрын

    He is right. Glazers are not the problem but spoiled United fans will never realize that.

  • @tevildo45

    @tevildo45

    9 ай бұрын

    He’s wrong and so are your. Think for yourself

  • @richyclubsport5155

    @richyclubsport5155

    9 ай бұрын

    Correct coming from a 65 year's long MUFC fan, truth hurts most, Love to see the Glazers sue all the channels who spread propaganda and blatant lie's

  • @hair6789

    @hair6789

    9 ай бұрын

    @@richyclubsport5155🤣🤣🤣 is that Stockholm syndrome that you've got?

  • @josephhall5136

    @josephhall5136

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad someone has said it. They have been brainwashed by g nev into thinking stuff. If they just thought for themselves, they'd do ok.

  • @mellydreams

    @mellydreams

    9 ай бұрын

    Glazers are the main problem. You have to be blind to not see that

  • @Kspat2
    @Kspat29 ай бұрын

    They haven’t invested a single dollar into the club since they’ve taken over and only spend what the club generates in revenue. That’s why our stadium and facilities are crumbling and they hire the worst executives imaginable.

  • @TheRobotsWillEatYou
    @TheRobotsWillEatYou9 ай бұрын

    United fans feeling sick after a night out : “GLAZERS OUT!” United fans after the kettle takes 3 seconds longer to get going : “GLAZERS OUT!” United fans after reading this shite comment : “GLAZERS OUT!”

  • @unknownname1941

    @unknownname1941

    9 ай бұрын

    Well, the Glazers are the owners. Should they say "Kroenke out!"?

  • @TheRobotsWillEatYou

    @TheRobotsWillEatYou

    9 ай бұрын

    @@unknownname1941 you’ve missed the point but let me fix that for you, “GLAZERS OUT!”

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    Agree am haven a bad day . Oh wait glazers fault 😂😂😂😂

  • @codytheendofdays8163

    @codytheendofdays8163

    9 ай бұрын

    @@unknownname1941 This comment is the Glazers fault

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    @@codytheendofdays8163 🤣🤣🥳

  • @y2k42y2k42
    @y2k42y2k429 ай бұрын

    Rival fans want Ten Hag to stay and Utd board to give him more time. When Pep & Klopp rocked up the Prem, you could see what style of play they wanted their teams to play. Ten Hag in his 2nd season with the majority of players at the club, his signings, and players he wanted to keep. Yet their isn't a style of play in place or any patterns of play. After spending over £400 million in 2 summer windows, they still play like they did under Ole. Add to the fact every Premier league team now has the financial muscle in the transfer market compared to the rest of the leagues around Europe, makes instant success harder to achieve.

  • @starlord24620

    @starlord24620

    9 ай бұрын

    Hold up a minute Ten Hag finished 3rd and won a trophy in his first season in charge even pep didn't manage that. Klopp took 3 seasons to finish above 4th let alone win something. The only problem Ten Hag has compared to the other two is that man utd are terrible at getting players to leave the club and getting good fees for them ... that's the fault of the glazers for hiring bankers instead of football people to make decisions

  • @AngryJawa0094

    @AngryJawa0094

    9 ай бұрын

    The Hag has taken command of the worst ever Man United side the world has ever seen and won a trophy in his first year.

  • @y2k42y2k42

    @y2k42y2k42

    9 ай бұрын

    @starlord24620 so what is Ten Hag style of play? Utd have lost to the top 8 away if I'm not mistaken. So players not leaving is the fault of the Owners 🤣🤣 man you ppl are some weird creatures. Anyway give Ten Hag a 10 year contract

  • @y2k42y2k42

    @y2k42y2k42

    9 ай бұрын

    @thesociety4769 so did mourinho and he got sacked for less

  • @MancMadMan

    @MancMadMan

    9 ай бұрын

    You think ETH wants half those players that are still at the club. 🤦‍♂️ Jesus. Where’ve you been pal? This is why I don’t care what other fans think. They don’t know half the story.

  • @smu02ns
    @smu02ns9 ай бұрын

    Its 100% on that clown ETH. he's spent £400mil to get outplayed by spurs without kane and a new manager, park the bus against arsenal with Havertz upfront lol, and get torn through by Forest and Wolves. Its just utterly embarrassing. ETH is clueless. The fact he was desperate to want Greenwood in the squad, somes up how vile and desperate he is

  • @unknownname1941

    @unknownname1941

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree. It's Ten Hag too who bought the club on a loan and let the stadium rot

  • @smu02ns

    @smu02ns

    9 ай бұрын

    @@unknownname1941 No it wasnt. Dont be silly. ETH is only to blame for the rubbish football on show. He doesnt control funds for the stadium. He just wastes a lot of money on average players like Antony, Hoijlund and Martinez

  • @aaroncarter7164

    @aaroncarter7164

    9 ай бұрын

    @@smu02ns The manager does not negotiate the transfer deals of a football club, the board does.

  • @smu02ns

    @smu02ns

    9 ай бұрын

    @@aaroncarter7164 the manager is told a player like Antony is going to cost £85mil and the manager has then given his approval to sign said average player

  • @christiancatterson2965

    @christiancatterson2965

    9 ай бұрын

    Didn't park the bus Vs arsenal. No evidence he was "desperate" for greenwood to come back. How can you say he wasted money on Hoijlumd who has played 20mins and Martinez who is actually quality. Poor scouting and transfer strategy is the reason a club is a mess just how it has been the last 10 years. Swap ETH with Pep and the results wouldn't be vastly different. Some other points you make I agree with

  • @ronaldagaba2578
    @ronaldagaba25789 ай бұрын

    United recruitment team are not good enough , so we blame the Glazer's who make the decisions

  • @sijiadegoke
    @sijiadegoke9 ай бұрын

    Glazers a convenient scapegoat? Jordan is high of his rockers

  • @creasicle
    @creasicle9 ай бұрын

    I firmly believe that a significant proportion of Man Utd's fanbase are not patient enough for them to return to where they were 10-15 years ago. You can't just buy a bunch of players and waltz back to the top. It takes years. You're gonna have to go through difficult times, you need to allow players to develop and you need to have a vision you can stick to. The issue for Man Utd is we go through cycles where they want to build a young team for the future but then after 18 months fans get impatient, the owners get jock itch, sack the manager and go on a massive spending spree and expect to challenge for the title the next season. Ultimately this is driven by a fanbase that cannot accept not winning and it's why we will be dancing this same dance for years.

  • @sunjaypatel4584
    @sunjaypatel45849 ай бұрын

    Manchester Utd were a huge club.. Empire been crumbling last 10 years

  • @simonhartung3683

    @simonhartung3683

    9 ай бұрын

    Will and always will be the biggest team in the world titles or not get real 😢

  • @786shobz
    @786shobz9 ай бұрын

    The irony is that Simon's need to sound more clever than he actually is makes him seem more idiotic in turn.

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    9 ай бұрын

    It is man utd fans who sound idiotic. Simon is talking sense here. Utd fans are entitled and spoilt. Your problem is pep and klopp. Proper elite managers and it does not matter who glazers hire and what the spend. No other manager is getting tjose points. Not even the great alex Ferguson got those points. Pep 100 and 98 points Klopp 99 and 97

  • @hotmess2766

    @hotmess2766

    9 ай бұрын

    😂 So true 👏🏼 Simon was a corrupt failure as a club owner so of course he will defend Glazers! They'll be gone soon anyway

  • @hotmess2766

    @hotmess2766

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@docholiday-lm4vfYet SAF won more than those 2 managers combined 😂 GGMU

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    9 ай бұрын

    @hotmess i never said fergie didn’t. Fergie was a great manager who win titles when the glazers were owners!!!! Hence my argument being now utd DO NOT have the elite manager but are trying to battle against two of them. 😂😂 Fergie himself wanted pep and klopp and he openly said it. Unlucky for utd fans that theu went to you rivals 😂😂 If klopp or pep had took over man htd woukd have won the league and champions league like city and liverpool

  • @reecemercer6772

    @reecemercer6772

    9 ай бұрын

    @@docholiday-lm4vfman United fans were protesting about the owners as soon as they came in and even when winning with Fergie. You should know this stuff before commenting

  • @Rob-hy8vb
    @Rob-hy8vb9 ай бұрын

    Top teams in the Prem now are, Man City, Liverpool, Arsenal and in that order!, United are small club now

  • @denk664

    @denk664

    9 ай бұрын

    Arsenal???? A club with less european pedigree than Villa and Forest? 7 years without CL football. Less PL than Leicester in the last 15 years. You're having a laugh

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    @@denk664that’s history pal right now he means

  • @denk664

    @denk664

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Chris-vz3ce right now? LiVARpool couldn't even qualify for the champions league. Try again

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    @@denk664 sure it’s Man U against wolves the pen at the end clown enough said . Least we will be up there this season use will be lucky to finish top 6 this season awful team

  • @denk664

    @denk664

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Chris-vz3ce nah

  • @tonyc2837
    @tonyc28379 ай бұрын

    United have had some half decent managers since Ferguson. But the fans expect instant success, the managers haven’t been given enough time to succeed. And the reality is that other clubs can compete financially with them, they couldn’t under a lot of Ferguson era.

  • @Hurley76

    @Hurley76

    9 ай бұрын

    Are you having a laugh? United give more time to managers than most teams. The only one you could argue wasn't given enough time was Moyes but even then, he took the Champions from 1st to 7th and he did a lot of things wrong.

  • @waykiwayki

    @waykiwayki

    9 ай бұрын

    So if you let Oli stay you think he would have come good? Crazy...no chance.

  • @benhampson1561

    @benhampson1561

    9 ай бұрын

    Clueless

  • @veryincredibly

    @veryincredibly

    9 ай бұрын

    Which tells you that it's about the way the club is run more than the manager. Just look at City, their owners want them to be the best club in the world, where as the parasites just want United to make top 4 each season for the financial benefits. Fergie was a unicorn and will forever be the greatest ever for managing to not only consistently compete but also win trophies under the reign of the parasites.

  • @sahajshetty1844

    @sahajshetty1844

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@benhampson1561They were never the highest spenders under Sir Alex either.

  • @mscw968
    @mscw9689 ай бұрын

    Surely if the people they put in influential positions fail for sustained periods and they keep them in post that is entirely on the owners

  • @piknick4315
    @piknick43159 ай бұрын

    Come on Simon - I agreed with you previously with the attention towards the Glaziers. It’s building up more and more - you can’t keep excluding their responsibilities. It’s one story, one situation after another - but at what point do owners step in when the people they appoint are garbage and embarrassing to the club.

  • @seltonk5136

    @seltonk5136

    9 ай бұрын

    He's on the payroll clearly

  • @12Hydrocarbon
    @12Hydrocarbon9 ай бұрын

    It’s the entire leadership from CEO to scouting network at united. Glazers paid a lot of money for transfers. From academy to recruitment quality is absolutely rotten. The fact they keep average players Rashford and think he’s elite is an indicative of what’s wrong with the club. Keeping average players from the academy and giving them crazy contracts is astonishing.

  • @UncleRuckus_96
    @UncleRuckus_969 ай бұрын

    Jordan will always protect the owners no matter what

  • @Moe226
    @Moe2269 ай бұрын

    As a business owner, its your responsibility to hire the best people for the job. If you don't, its your fault. Stop beating around the bush

  • @benjibradshaw69
    @benjibradshaw699 ай бұрын

    Simon attributes the success of Man Utd to David Gill and SAF but says it’s nothing to do with the owner. It has everything to do with the owner. The owner has to have faith in the direction and act accordingly. Luckily for ME he’d picked two great people. I’m sure he would have changed things if things went a different way. The Glazers kept Ed in place for years and he clearly didn’t have the acumen to run the sporting side of the business, commercially brilliant. But look at the players signed, signed for commercial reasons more then the ability to fit into a team/system. The problem with this style of running a club is the global decline in revenue. If you want this to continue, you need success on the pitch for new generations of fans to come through. You only have to look at how many city shirts you now see outside of Manchester. I never used to see any but I see a lot more now and this is driven first hand by success on the pitch which in hand drives commercial success.

  • @Darkmountaindweller
    @Darkmountaindweller9 ай бұрын

    If a hospital hires a mechanic to do the job of a brain surgeon and the patient dies in the process,whose fault is it then?

  • @bigpoppaHH69
    @bigpoppaHH699 ай бұрын

    Haha Simon has fell off so bad hasn't recovered since eddy gave him a spanking 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sirmarcus1
    @sirmarcus19 ай бұрын

    It’s said that a fish rots from the head and if the head of the stream is dirty then there’ll be no clean water at the bottom. They’ve not hired the best in class to oversee the football operations. There’s never been a clear philosophy so the recruitment process has been poor. They over pay average or below players, who they can’t get rid of when it’s time. So if the ownership isn’t responsible for this situation then who is? and let’s not talk about the stadium and training ground

  • @rc9719
    @rc97199 ай бұрын

    You own a club you employ every body under you , yes you are to blame simons just loves off the CEO

  • @jamesfretwell1511

    @jamesfretwell1511

    9 ай бұрын

    Well said. Hes a absolute baboon, but he speaks like hes a politician, so everyone on here thinks hes some sort of genius.

  • @danieljoseph369
    @danieljoseph3699 ай бұрын

    Leveraged takeovers are now banned. It's bad luck for United that they were purchased in a leveraged takeover.

  • @IISoMaLiaNII
    @IISoMaLiaNII9 ай бұрын

    Does Simon ever criticise owners or defend players?

  • @me4374
    @me43749 ай бұрын

    Jordan will literally back any owner, utterly clueless take on the United situation

  • @papapa9106
    @papapa91069 ай бұрын

    Yes it certainly isn't difficult to destroy a football club just ask the Glazers they're experts!

  • @user-nc2pn8kf3k

    @user-nc2pn8kf3k

    9 ай бұрын

    Glazers have spent over 1b on transfer fees. They obviously want the club to be a success to some degree. You lot would never admit it was down to awful talent ID from the managers you've had recently and extreme expenditure on targets that arent good enough. How is that the Glazers fault.

  • @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-nc2pn8kf3kit's not awful talent that's the problem I think, more like bad attitude

  • @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    9 ай бұрын

    Papapa9106, 16 trophies were win under their full ownership 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @DilbertWhitehead

    @DilbertWhitehead

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-nc2pn8kf3kerr, cause they hired the person who hired all the scouts and negotiators who have done all the bad deals on bad players...they hired businessman bankers instead of football people and all the managers have had to battle with that. Spending money late or badly isn't being a good owner

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    9 ай бұрын

    Pep and klopp are utd issue. Does not matter what the galazers spend or who they hire as manager

  • @Bushwacker-mb6hw
    @Bushwacker-mb6hw9 ай бұрын

    The owners have spent more than any other club in last 10 years!

  • @veryincredibly

    @veryincredibly

    9 ай бұрын

    So United should be at least competing then right? No matter which angle you look at it; it exposes the parasites for what they truly are; parasites.

  • @leedavis6000

    @leedavis6000

    9 ай бұрын

    Not there own they havnt.

  • @reecemercer6772

    @reecemercer6772

    9 ай бұрын

    Nothing of there own money, this is what people conveniently forget.

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    Always excuses, is ther any owner that pays out ther own pockets mongos , sure most teams make money then spend it 🤡. Man U / good old glazers have spent over 1b how much do u fans want if I may ask it’s like that’s not enough for use ??????????🫣🤫😏

  • @LFC4LIFEJEDI
    @LFC4LIFEJEDI9 ай бұрын

    Jesus I've never seen anybody simp for the Glazers as hard as Simon does and that is coming from a Liverpool fan

  • @DilbertWhitehead

    @DilbertWhitehead

    9 ай бұрын

    Glad it's obvious. Same with Levy. I think Simon talks a lot of sense but his owner bias clouds his judgement

  • @spark556

    @spark556

    9 ай бұрын

    He is telling the truth tho

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    @@spark556facts 🎉

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    9 ай бұрын

    Because he’s right. Uyd fans are entitled and terrible losers. Pep and klopp are proper elite managers. That is why they are nit winning!! Sure the galzers won the league at man utd and a number of trophies but last 6 years utd fans have had to watch city and Liverpool get record prem points and loads of champions league finals and win everything each. As long as city and liverpool have thise two managers utd wont win. Sure liverpool oweners spend less than half of the glazers but they have klopp who is amazing at recruitment and sure pep is incredible

  • @richyclubsport5155

    @richyclubsport5155

    9 ай бұрын

    @@spark556 correct and the truth hurts

  • @Kevinjj1991
    @Kevinjj19919 ай бұрын

    Plenty of Liverpool fans not in favor of FSG, Klopp has made us better not FSG with their failed money ball approach, it'll all fall apart when he leaves too

  • @michaelethnan9822

    @michaelethnan9822

    9 ай бұрын

    That’s the point. I don’t know why Man U fans don’t want to accept. They lack identity. That’s not the glazers fault.

  • @solskjaer1195
    @solskjaer11959 ай бұрын

    The Glazers are responsible because it's them who choose the people to run the club on their behalf. Woodward was a clown. Arnold and Murtough no better

  • @pappathescooper
    @pappathescooper9 ай бұрын

    Whatever anyone says or doesn’t say… I can’t think of one man utd signing that has had massive success from day 1 since RVP

  • @josephhall5136

    @josephhall5136

    9 ай бұрын

    At at push I'd say bruno. But since Ronaldo not player has come in, improved and gone onto bigger things. They come in for big money, diminish and leave for peanuts. Old Trafford destroys careers.

  • @scottkenyon3073
    @scottkenyon30739 ай бұрын

    Simon is bang on. The owners are not fully to blame. To have the largest net spend means the owners are spending money, all be it money made via their commercial business. The blame is that money spent has been spent badly, just like my club Everton. If the money was spent on quality, and a Ferguson version two had been appointed they would be winning and United fans would be happy. It’s wasted money, simple as that. The club is number one in terms of commercialisation so that’s not the issue. Agree again with Simon on expectations. United fans have this belief they are entitled to being number 1, but so do Liverpool fans. We all can’t be top dog! Newcastle fans want to win everything of course they do, just like every club, but do they really expect to win it all, probably not just yet, but that time will come.

  • @soloa24
    @soloa249 ай бұрын

    From football point of view Chelsea had the best owner in Abramovich. So loosing was going to be a disaster. Simon comparing Glazers to Abramoviche is wrong. They can be compared to Mike Ashley and Liverpool’s previous owners. And we saw that both clubs changed ownership and became better. United would most likely be better and new ownership.

  • @polaris7122

    @polaris7122

    9 ай бұрын

    United have been the biggest 'NET' spenders for over a decade, so nothing like Ashley!!!

  • @a.c.f.2423
    @a.c.f.24239 ай бұрын

    what does Simon say at 8:16? "antiquestible"?

  • @sahajshetty1844
    @sahajshetty18449 ай бұрын

    Simon is conveniently side stepping the most obvious question, the glazers are not invested owners, they lack any vision for the football club and their recruitment in key decision making positions are a reflection of their lack of ambition for the club, the money they spent was revenue generated by the club, they let the infrastructure decline over the decades and still took out dividends, they are not the only reason for the clubs decline but they are the major reason behind it.

  • @um8778
    @um87789 ай бұрын

    Finally somebody said it, Man United fans are 2 losses away from complaining the old trafford roof is leaking.

  • @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    9 ай бұрын

    ...or about the weather, the traffic, climate change, the dollar, Donald Trump, Warren Buffet, anyone, anything.just blame it

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    never ther fault 😮

  • @codytheendofdays8163

    @codytheendofdays8163

    9 ай бұрын

    Half of them are fans because of historical success and the other half because of possible future success so it's really a fanbase of gloryhunters who want to belong to the winning side

  • @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    9 ай бұрын

    @@codytheendofdays8163 Time travellers ? 😁

  • @codytheendofdays8163

    @codytheendofdays8163

    9 ай бұрын

    @@fearlessformidableferociou8623 law of averages would tell you United will win something at somepoint, it's inevitable like death and taxes

  • @hardcorepeewee
    @hardcorepeewee9 ай бұрын

    Net Spend 1 Billion

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @diddyxl
    @diddyxl9 ай бұрын

    What's super dumb here is that if you look at good owners, they are the exact opposite of the Glazer's. They speak to the press, show up to matches (Newcastle, I feel their owners attend every home match). They make good business decisions. (Newcastle again). Further clubs with good owners are a half billion in debt. I'm not a Newcastle fan but when Ashley was their I was incensed that he had zero ambition from a team with high ambitions. Disgusting he held an entire city hostage. It kills me when bad news happens to United and you see how many people are happy about the misery. Those are insecure people who take pleasure in others grief.

  • @codytheendofdays8163

    @codytheendofdays8163

    9 ай бұрын

    Roman was a quiet guy wtf are you talking about rarely showed up to matches apart for important ones, made quite terrible decisions at times(especially with managers), had Chelsea more than 2 billion. And was the most sucessful owner in his era

  • @diddyxl

    @diddyxl

    9 ай бұрын

    @@codytheendofdays8163 Congrats, you selected one manager to fulfill your point. Leicester City, Brentford, Villa, Tony Bloom at Brighton. These owners have VERY high approval ratings. 95%+ . before you tell me wtf am I talking about open another tab search for something that could help your case and bring it back.

  • @codytheendofdays8163

    @codytheendofdays8163

    9 ай бұрын

    @@diddyxl Wrong I selected the most successful owner given the ratio of achievements to years, not manager genius.

  • @codytheendofdays8163

    @codytheendofdays8163

    9 ай бұрын

    @@diddyxl Maybe you can open a tab and find the difference between owner and manager, I'll wait, oh and by the way, oners of those clubs, don't even win much, that's why they own those clubs, because those standards are acceptable, these standards you project are relatively new, heck even this nonsense about Newcastle, they got new owners when 3 years back or less? The best clubs have debt RM, Barcelona... Their owners don't attend every stupid game like they're not rich by working consistently unlike middle east ownership other owners don't get to just enjoy the oil repos generating wealth and go watch a game

  • @stanleynaidoo5059
    @stanleynaidoo50599 ай бұрын

    Certain percentage of blame must go to some ex players b coz every time a new manager set his side negative talks were to the manager should follow fergies ways always talking of the past never seen Charlton Best and few good players talked about fergie when playing under Busby

  • @tomlynch2716
    @tomlynch27169 ай бұрын

    its like a man speaking to a child with headphones on

  • @wobbphillipworrall1426
    @wobbphillipworrall14269 ай бұрын

    I think many clubs under Glazer ownership would of gone under, but maybe other clubs were probably always safe from the hands of owners like glazers because their only motive and intentions in 2005 was to get their hands on a cash cow, they no interest or passion or love for the club. People can view city ownership with suspicious eyes regarding the charges but no one can dispute their love for Man City and their passion to get it right on the pitch in building an infrastructure that fully supports a manager. City have a fantastic team and their owners are the reason why. The board, recruitment and development, training facilities, If United does get bought they have to get rid of the whole structure above Ten hag

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    9 ай бұрын

    Nonsense. Sure utd won the league under the glazers. Man utd problem is pep and klopp are elite and have proved that everywhere they are!! Klopp and pep have gotten 100,99,98,97 points The 4 highest points tallies ever. Not even fergie hit those points And the other issue is man utd used to have all the money bit now the prem has loads of rich clubs

  • @christiancatterson2965

    @christiancatterson2965

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@docholiday-lm4vfthat's all well in good if united were coming 2nd or 3rd every season with 80+ points but they aren't. What about 4 seasons before pep and klopp started hitting those heights? Issue isn't money. United could spend 3x everyone else and still wouldn't win the league. Whoever is in charge of contracts and transfer business is useless

  • @docholiday-lm4vf

    @docholiday-lm4vf

    9 ай бұрын

    @chris in the fergie era (amazing manager by the way) man utd had the pick of the best players and were by far the richest club in england. Those times are long gone. The premier league is very rich heavy now. Liverpool owners are only 7th-8th richest. The prem is a beast in terms of money and its much more a level playing ground now. Utd won the league, champs league and every other cup under the glazers when they had fergie!!!! Now they dont have fergie, they are not the richest and the two best managers are at thier rivals. Even fergie said when pep and klopp joined the rivals “im worried” Suck it up. Your dominance os over. Liverpool fans never cried that much and they newr went bust as a club. Utd fans are to entitled as all they knew was winning

  • @christiancatterson2965

    @christiancatterson2965

    9 ай бұрын

    @@docholiday-lm4vf thank you for ignoring my point

  • @gingermcginge6466

    @gingermcginge6466

    9 ай бұрын

    @@docholiday-lm4vflook at purchases in the 90s. United were not the biggest spenders. So players would come united because it’s united.

  • @stuartwilson1190
    @stuartwilson11909 ай бұрын

    Ok the club has not one a league title since 2013. Have sacked 5 managers & changed players over that time. No investment in stadium or training ground. Clubs in debt up to it’s eyeballs Owners taking money out of club Had to sign Johnny Evans on 1 year deal One common denominator the board doesn’t change.

  • @duran9664
    @duran96649 ай бұрын

    👇Salah has 2 great qualities👇 1] Always does defensive duties✅ 2] He rarely gets injured✅

  • @bugsy8071
    @bugsy80719 ай бұрын

    As an Arsenal fan, I can categorically disagree that you can’t blame the ownership for the success of a team. Real Madrid have done well because of their leadership, Chelsea achieved success tremendously because of the ownership of Roman A. Similar to the rise of Brighton. We see the effect of good leadership. So I categorically disagree with Simon on this one.

  • @bobbates797
    @bobbates7979 ай бұрын

    Absolute cobblers when these vermin rocked up United were so far ahead of the pack best stadium with plans to improve it best training ground and always improving it not shy of spending big on transfers and had money in the bank and no need for loans and paid dividends. They came in and through refinancing against the club over and over again they’ve ruined what was a financially stable club that now has live by their flexible friend and buying players on the knock to the point they can’t carry on. The boil needs lancing.

  • @user-zy1pg6sp1v
    @user-zy1pg6sp1v9 ай бұрын

    jordan rooting for the glazers, just shows you the man he is

  • @norwoodboy6048

    @norwoodboy6048

    9 ай бұрын

    You need to listen to what he is actually saying.

  • @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    @fearlessformidableferociou8623

    9 ай бұрын

    He's a man with an opinion, nothing wrong with that, just like every utd fan has got a view of who should've played when utd lose / draw a match

  • @Chris-vz3ce

    @Chris-vz3ce

    9 ай бұрын

    Krect guys ten haag spent a lot to build this side and it’s awful to watch man , he wanted to keep maguire and get evans enough said ps keep martial 😂😂😂 aw man The gift that keeps on given 🎉

  • @bruno5137

    @bruno5137

    9 ай бұрын

    He's not rooting for the Glazers, he's saying they are partly to blame along with other factors. His main point is United fans who hysterically blame the Glazers for everything need to be a bit more intelligent and look at the bigger picture, but asking football fans to be considered and intelligent is perhaps unrealistic!

  • @nickcrouch1258
    @nickcrouch12589 ай бұрын

    Man United spend massive amounts on the team - so you can't argue they don't invest in the club. The issue is that they've appointed Executives who don't have the required football knowledge to appoint the right people, make the right signings and invest in the right areas. As long as the club continues to grow financially its not an issue for the Glazers (like under Woodward). They should intervine more to get the footballing side of things right but too far and you end up with Boehley who is playing live action football manager. The Glazers aren't faultless but to say everything wrong at Utd is because of them and not because of poor management, bad scouting and coaching, disruptive managers is seriously over simplifying the situation. Their mistake is not sacking Woodward when he couldn't fix the football side of the business and that may be the mistake they're continuing to make.

  • @lol-pz1ni

    @lol-pz1ni

    9 ай бұрын

    the owners of the club are the ones responsible for appointing those making the football decisions so the buck stops with the, , also it's not their money they have put in it's all debt leveraged against the club. They only ever put in like 200 million , the servicing on the debt is more than that. To say they have invested is a piss take.

  • @DilbertWhitehead

    @DilbertWhitehead

    9 ай бұрын

    It starts from the top down though so the buck stops with the Glazers. An owner of a failing company or organisation should seriously make improvements to change its fortunes or sell up. These leeches won't do either

  • @nickcrouch1258

    @nickcrouch1258

    9 ай бұрын

    Owners only need to worry about 2 things - how much money am I willing to put at risk and who will manage all this for me. For those arguing about the money , remember that football success makes the Glazers wealthier, so of course they do want that. Also Utd already throw insane amounts of money around so how much more does it take for you to be successful? Its all down to management and unfortunately Utd haven't found a management team capable of getting the footballing decisions right. Their commercial successes stopped them getting sacked but that is the mistake the Glazers made. Also remember that Utd don't have a right to win everything. You can't clone Pep or Klopp and no matter how well you do there is always someone ready to raise the bar. Even getting all the footballing decisions right doesn't guarantee success.

  • @MrCrazyrob666
    @MrCrazyrob6669 ай бұрын

    They are 100% to blame. They put Ed Woodward in charge, they didn't put a proper modern footballing structure in place, they haven't invested in the stadium/facilities, they have taken dividends and not invested any money (transfers came from club''s income).

  • @stephenhartley4054
    @stephenhartley40549 ай бұрын

    Simon is legend i love his opinions he solid in what he says 💙💙

  • @redouanedjerboua8869
    @redouanedjerboua88699 ай бұрын

    This is highly contradictory...you can't say they are easy scapegoat and then go and say they are making the decisions

  • @deco2132
    @deco21329 ай бұрын

    You simply cant defend the lack of investment by the Glazers when it comes to the infrastructure of the club - the stadium is in an awful state - they are more than happy packing the fans in but wont fix the leaks in the roof.

  • @revolver_84
    @revolver_849 ай бұрын

    Simon needs to back the courage of his conviction

  • @alansmith4655
    @alansmith46559 ай бұрын

    That thumbnail of Simon should be on the mantle piece.

  • @kenllaney
    @kenllaney9 ай бұрын

    the glazers didnt make ten hag buy mount who had a horrible season for 60 million and give him the number 7 shirt.

  • @elijahtchilembe-mpovie2715
    @elijahtchilembe-mpovie27159 ай бұрын

    I feel like people are commenting on this from a footballing standpoint only but keep forgetting the business part. He's not wrong.

  • @user-lx8vz6oc2b
    @user-lx8vz6oc2b9 ай бұрын

    glaziers have spent the money on the club, its the buying of overated players is the problem. and the money has been wasted on big wages on sancho.antony,fred.bailly,van de beek

  • @ezyfnef
    @ezyfnef9 ай бұрын

    Every time this guy opens his mouth you see why he ran Crystal Palace into bankruptcy. Even rival fans understand how terrible the Glazers are. If this was a smaller club they'll be in league two now.

  • @mihaelstancirevic4178
    @mihaelstancirevic41789 ай бұрын

    The club's debt may not be the problem at all due to debt refinancing and commercial revenue that has increased manyfold over the last 15 years. However, whoever buys a club or a company in the leveraged buyout has no interest behaving as it is expected from an owner. For Glazers this is nothing but a speculation or mathematics; borrow money to buy an asset, increase the asset's market value and revenue to cover operating and financing costs, squeeze out as much money as possible while spending as little as possible, and eventually sell at the highest possible price or when a cow makes no more milk. I think he is right in that Glazers are not the only problem and their escape may not improve situation overnight. In addition to competent finance directors who will keep developing commercial business that is capable of covering probably overpaid players, interest and other costs, the club will still need a competent sporting director and a manager to start with. While Glazers did a good job in increasing commercial revenue of the club, they know absolutely nothing about football and don't have any interest in it as they surely have an exit strategy once their United game is no longer lucrative for them. For that they are guilty. Also, United has some big names on the pitch, but performance has consistently been insufficient. Understanding and solving this problem may take a lot more effort than simply driving Glazers out. Ferguson and Gill did splendid job and they are difficult to replace. Worse yet, scouting and other club's functions were left rusty since 2013 as Ferguson used to rely more on his own genius. And the landscape has definitely changed with a lot of money being poured into the other football clubs. Glazers are not fools; they probably anticipate more interest from American investors after the World Cup in US which may lead to a record-breaking market price of any sports team, and many other factors. They may be sitting here for quite a while. The only thing fans can do is to stop attending games as a sign of the protest against the owners. This will harm the club's reputation and is the only thing that can surprise Glazers and make them run like rats from a flooding basement.

  • @Busybee65
    @Busybee659 ай бұрын

    FFP need to take a look at United, with the share price crash, and owing the bank £500 mil

  • @polaris7122

    @polaris7122

    9 ай бұрын

    Engage your brain!

  • @welshhibby
    @welshhibby9 ай бұрын

    United are not a top club anymore, it’s as simple as that.

  • @civildiscourse7626
    @civildiscourse76269 ай бұрын

    Simon needs to understand the failures are multifaceted- the stadium is being left behind, the staff structure is behind, the facilities are crumbling… that all was happening under fergie but now the on pitch side of things is failing they have no where to hide. They’re the only owners who have negatively impacted the club in every metric. They take more out then they put in. Palace are small united are huge- they should be the biggest spenders without the glazers, it’s uniteds generated money not owner sugar money

  • @Zeppelin180
    @Zeppelin1809 ай бұрын

    You said haven’t had a generationally great manager since Fergie? You’ve consistently said Mourinho is one of the all time greats and you still claim he is. What happened there?

  • @ascheuring1
    @ascheuring19 ай бұрын

    Jim Newcastle was in-line to get relegated before Mike Ashley sold and there was no uproar you’re being silly

  • @markbolton6545
    @markbolton65459 ай бұрын

    They’ve been the biggest net spenders in the last 20 years. Can hardly blame them. Utd fans need to get a grip and get behind the glaziers 😂

  • @DonR-zb2cm
    @DonR-zb2cm9 ай бұрын

    West Ham have players like Paqueta, Kudas, Bowen, Alvarez. These are the type of players United should be going for not bloody Mason Mount and Antony. The Galzers gave Ten Hag money and he wasted it has no one to blame but himself simple as

  • @deltafay1981
    @deltafay19819 ай бұрын

    Lets see how things pan out Mr Jordan.

  • @jodi5420
    @jodi54209 ай бұрын

    Can’t compare Chelsea. That had huge fortunes and spending before Bohley

  • @craigmoorebrightsparkprodu799
    @craigmoorebrightsparkprodu7999 ай бұрын

    It's fair to say that football has changed and other teams have caught up and since eclipsed Manchester United. But if that was an inevitability then it's even more of a damning indictment of how the Glazers have mismanaged the club. If you're in a management position, and you're not exactly welcome in the first place, then hiring the wrong people to run the job then it is ultimately your fault. If you don't have the foresight to adapt and maintain your position as an elite footballing force, then you shouldn't be in charge of the brand. The only thing United have managed to maintain is their spending, and that is because of its strength as a brand with astronomical revenue. The money going out is money coming in. There's no sense of personal investment in the club as an asset. The Glazers are more than happy to be guys standing over a conveyor belt.

  • @DJOkocha
    @DJOkocha9 ай бұрын

    The owners are entirely to blame, if they hadn't put the club in debt, had installed a top sporting director and recruitment/scouting team from day one instead of bankers making footy decisions then they club would have been more successful

  • @wurm90125
    @wurm901259 ай бұрын

    Look. I'm a New York Mets fan. They had garbage ownership for 30 odd years. They sold 3 years ago and the new owner has spent a ton to try and improve them. They're still not good. Bad ownership takes years to overcome.

  • @seanmurray8439
    @seanmurray84399 ай бұрын

    Simon has forgotten the work of Peter Kenyon whilst Chief Exec for 6 years (97-2003). Broke the strict wage structure of Edwards. Brought in Rio Ferdinand, Juan Sebastian Veron, Cristiano Ronaldo. Gill did not begin his legacy until 2003-2013

  • @emonyagami93
    @emonyagami939 ай бұрын

    A former bad football club owner defending bad football club owners. It is to be expected.

  • @MRAPEXPREDATOR1
    @MRAPEXPREDATOR19 ай бұрын

    They have spent more because they have incompetent owners and also turn over far more than other clubs. Not a chance would Maguire and McTominay still be at a Chelsea or a City.

  • @georgemullens
    @georgemullens9 ай бұрын

    I think Simon speaks a lot of sense, but to suggest that things wouldn't change if there was a change of ownership is really a bit daft.

  • @Mansa-kunda
    @Mansa-kunda9 ай бұрын

    Go on jim, putting a bit of pressure on Simon there 😂

  • @DonR-zb2cm
    @DonR-zb2cm9 ай бұрын

    These managers get backed and make stupid decisions every single time. Any manager that thinks making Bruno captain at Manchester United deserves the sack alone

  • @chrispalmer7893
    @chrispalmer78939 ай бұрын

    Jim's analogy is bizarre - FSG couldn't help but improve Liverpool given the state of the club when they took over. Unhappy though United fans are these days, but they're not hours away from bankruptcy. Jordan is quite right to note that repalcing the Glazers isn't inevitably going to make United better. And United fans will need to be realistic because even if they get the right owners going forward it'll likely take some time to fix everything that needs to be fixed.

  • @seamusmartin6556

    @seamusmartin6556

    9 ай бұрын

    Very true, however, with the glazers family in charge the process of fixing all the problems can't start. For me, as a united fan, all I want is the opportunity for the football club to wipe the slate clean and start again. If it takes another decade to fix it then so be it. There is no future under the glazer family.

  • @zubirabu3589
    @zubirabu35899 ай бұрын

    because MU have more money duing their dominan period where they can buy the best engtlish players but now not anymore chelsea and man city are around

  • @canadaman3
    @canadaman39 ай бұрын

    According to Simon Jordon, the more money you have the more infallible you are.

  • @jcrxzbufazi3704
    @jcrxzbufazi37049 ай бұрын

    SJ always moving the goal post lol

  • @lalitnanoskar1032
    @lalitnanoskar10329 ай бұрын

    For the first time I agree simon. Which is surprising for me as well. 😲

  • @kaisersolo76
    @kaisersolo769 ай бұрын

    So letting the stadium rot is who's fault?

  • @rndompersn3426
    @rndompersn34269 ай бұрын

    I just dont get Simon. Theres no logic here. The Glazers OWN the club. They can hire and fire anyone they choose to as Simon did on a weekly basis for Palace. Simon seems to be going for the "Tsar being let down" by his council when its the Tsar that with all the power and the ability to choose whomether he/she wants. No, they dont need to micromanage everything from training sessions to catering but they need to make sure that every role is filled with the right talent and with the same goal and ethos. We have seen Abramovic do it with Chelsea and Klopp at Liverpool.

  • @dankumarasamy7704
    @dankumarasamy77049 ай бұрын

    I blame The Glaziers for not hiring the proper scout for recruitment. After Sir Alex united bought rubbish players and yet Glaziers spent over a billion dollars. Having finished in the top 4 , instead of buying Madsen, Guihe from Crystal Palace , Eze and Doucurie from Crystal Palace , what did they buy. United must buy players from the premier league. Not players from other leagues who never played in the premier league. I blame the recruitment people.

  • @chizi5149
    @chizi51499 ай бұрын

    Old Trafford is rusting mate..I guess Glazers paid Simon something to say this crap 🙄

  • @andrewcooper9898
    @andrewcooper98989 ай бұрын

    Klopp has changed Liverpool. Not FSG

  • @KingRooney89
    @KingRooney899 ай бұрын

    Jim White is on the money here, he knows the Glazers are rotten and are ruining the best club in England. It's funny how Jordan doesn't talk about Old Trafford rotting......

  • @jimmyjojojunior
    @jimmyjojojunior9 ай бұрын

    Glazers put their loan manager in charge of hiring and firing managers and staff.

  • @lovejoy3347
    @lovejoy33479 ай бұрын

    When its your responsibility to employ the likes of Ed Woodward, Richard Arnold, John Murtaugh, Darren fletcher and Eric Ramsay, all of whom should be working in factories, to run the Club and its youth team and recruitment, then it's clearly on you.

  • @Trecesolotienesdos
    @Trecesolotienesdos9 ай бұрын

    With respect Simon, the Glazers hired Woodward, Ole, and have overseen the entire business. It's ultimately on them. The Glazers set the culture as does any businessowner. Youshould know that as a seasoned businessowner. Woodward was an employee of the Glazers. One can hire an executive and give him/her autonomy but they're still accountable! With respect Simon, you're being a Glazers' apologist, just as you're a Levy apologist cos he's your bro. Boehly has been there for a year. FSG whilst derided by some Liveprool fans did hire Klopp and he obviously led them to great success. You took an L here Simon, a rare one, all the same.

  • @gavinlewis3049
    @gavinlewis30499 ай бұрын

    He's right, no matter how the fans will look at it, money has been spent within the team, even if it's not their own. The recruitment has been bad, that is managerial so the ones below the glassiers are running it into the ground.

  • @mustardegg2
    @mustardegg29 ай бұрын

    Football is so elite and competitive now compared to Ferguson day that you need best in class in all departments. Glazers have been poor in almost every area of their ownership. Net spend is so high because they buy poorly and overpay wages and can’t sell players as a result . The net spend being so high is a reflection of how bad the glazers have been.

  • @AJ-xv7oh

    @AJ-xv7oh

    9 ай бұрын

    That makes absolutely no sense. Top level football has always been elite and competitive. That's why it's top level football.

  • @mustardegg2

    @mustardegg2

    9 ай бұрын

    footballer used to drink and smoke and eat what ever they like. That was not elite. @@AJ-xv7oh

  • @gingermcginge6466
    @gingermcginge64669 ай бұрын

    It’s almost like the fans haven’t wanted them out until this point. Think he needs to do research. They’ve never been welcome. Newcastle have won next to nothing really in their history so they’re not the same.

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