Simon Bolivar, when you invest all your points in charisma and neglect the other stats.

@novohispana

7 жыл бұрын

Max Mustermann He had quite alot in intelligence aswell, but low endurance will cost you in the late game

@aceous99

7 жыл бұрын

you cant force people to join your party. Unless of course you are the Northern part of the United States forcing the South to stay :)

@TomKellyXY

7 жыл бұрын

Forced is a bit rich, considering the number of enslaved people in the South who would've supported the Union if they had any rights to do so. Alas, history is rarely so simple.

@brog4037

7 жыл бұрын

He also didn't invest in luck, but can you blame him?! Item discovery?! Who would want that?!

@ayyteen

7 жыл бұрын

Max Mustermann He also put a lot of points in intelligence but put too little points in endurance and also chose too many high power and high responsibility levels which overwhelmed him in the late game.

The more I learn about other lands trying to establish liberty, the more I realize how miraculous it was that America ever found its feet.

@christiandauz3742

7 жыл бұрын

Had America stayed with the Articles of Confederation, it would have ended similarly to Gran Columbia

@awerick3441

7 жыл бұрын

Well Spanish America was all Spanish so I'm sure that helped (not)

@cielopachirisu929

7 жыл бұрын

The States were always more united than the Spanish colonies. It's as they said in the video. America has always had a single cultural identity to an extent, where South America had a bunch of different ones.

@christiandauz3742

7 жыл бұрын

Cielo Pachirisu Did stop them from almost destroying the USA TWICE (Articles of Confederation and US Civil War)

@cielopachirisu929

7 жыл бұрын

***** Yeah, nothing's perfect, but the States don't exactly have the same history of conflict between each other that the Latin Americans did.

Bolivar's story is even sadder when you realize how unfree our countries were even after the independence. Dictator after dictator, revolutionary after revolutionary... it tugs my heart to see how much of Bolivar story we still carry with us and our failures

@verbfrombonsai8852

6 жыл бұрын

RGR0000 your people back then hated bolivar to rule, when in fact they were much worse. We could have seen a prosperous South America.

@EmporerAaron

5 жыл бұрын

And how even today...they aren't glorious. I'm from the United States and all the news you hear about how bad things are in South America....lets you know that Simon wanted a powerful and great South America, what followed was..disaster and a place that is far from glorious.

@agentc7020

5 жыл бұрын

EmporerAaron it’s one thing hearing news and seeing stuff, in the us most news about it are more “positive” but it also has its “negatives” as we have our “negatives” news but nobody talks about our “positive” points, it’s just a matter of perception

@zmanx88

5 жыл бұрын

EmporerAaron it really has been a chaotic history for SA. Colombia seems to be doing so much better now adays... vlza on the other hand...

@valen123456

5 жыл бұрын

The biggest problem with revolutions by force is that eventually the ability to exercise force becomes the thing that makes legitimacy possible. And now after centuries of that the domination of force and perks that come with it, combined with outside manipulations by first superpowers, later corporations and other internal power plays, very few are either interested in making it better for anyone but themselves. And anyone who tries to restart a fresh system and a new type of legitimacy will only have to start the same cycle of power by force in order to achieve it and so fall short.

Whenever I see videos like these I think to myself, I hope he succeeds, but i live in South America and i know he didn't.

@hperantunes

5 жыл бұрын

I know, right? Being South American is to be raised in a place that "could have been"...

@vangavenrobles7238

5 жыл бұрын

Hilton we could have had a grand North and South American Grand State😤

@luisphelipecarvalho5990

5 жыл бұрын

@@vangavenrobles7238 We Brazilians are a big South American grand state already, thanks tho, we've never cared about spanish-america at all

@chrislopez1753

4 жыл бұрын

@@hperantunes don't lose hope if we could have been back then when things were 100x worse we definitely have a chance to be something soon just wait till the South American governors realize that this is the only way they will get ahead

@chrislopez1753

4 жыл бұрын

@@vangavenrobles7238 man I feel like Bolivar could've conquered the whole damn world

This was more depressing than I expected

@ironcladstudios971

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@jairopalacios454

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, is even worse when you live in one of our countries, because that issues in some way 200 years ago are kinda the same.

@mojewjewjew4420

3 жыл бұрын

@@jairopalacios454 Ones again we see greed and petty bickering ruin great dreams or forces of change.

@NONO-oy1cu

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@NONO-oy1cu

3 жыл бұрын

@@jairopalacios454 Maybe the future generations in your country will create a great south american country?

"Latin America is ungovernable. He who serves a revolution ploughs the sea." --Bolivar, memoirs

@kalkschaap

5 жыл бұрын

The book ''The Invention of Nature - Alexander von Humboldt's new world'' Also tells the story of Simon Bolivar. This very sentence can be read in the concerning chapter, well done.

@ricardokowalski1579

Жыл бұрын

Venezuela es un cuero seco, si lo pisas por un lado se alza por el otro, *Antonio Guzmán Blanco*

I am a Venezuelan, born and raised, and every time, and I mean, ever.single.time I read or listen or even remember the story of Bolivar's Gran Colombia and it's collapse into ruin, I always feel this deep desire for the story to end differently, but of course I know it never will, I know what happened, and live on the ashes of what could have been the greatest and most prosperous Spanish-speaking country in Latin America. Bolivar was not a great man, but a man of great ideals, he was not the best general, but a persistent one nonetheless. He had a goal, and he tried his hardest to achieve it, but sadly, he tried to swallow more than what he could chew

@artoruvidal2793

3 жыл бұрын

He had no choice A small country like Colombia Bolivia.... Can't prosper in the advancing world (or remain prosperous) He knew that grand Colombia was the only way to achieve that

@CH4L4H4Z4N

3 жыл бұрын

@@artoruvidal2793 u said bolivia and colombia small??...kek

@griffin3964

2 жыл бұрын

@@CH4L4H4Z4N they aren't really that small, but his point stands. Compared to countries like the U.S., China, or Brazil they are small.

@florians9949

2 жыл бұрын

@@griffin3964 size doesn’t always matter, the european countries (save for Russia) were much smaller yet powerfull in their own right. Bolivar was a great public figure and military man, but you got to admit that as a statemen he just sucked.

@griffin3964

2 жыл бұрын

@@florians9949 That's true of course, but a larger nation in Latin America (if it was united and stable) would have been better equipped to compete with rising powers in Europe and the United States. Instead, many Latin American countries were weak and unstable This allowed powers, especially the Unites States, create spheres of influence and practice colonialism.

This is the saddest ending to extra history ever.

@felixlucena

5 жыл бұрын

Yup... He died from tuberculosis... in a bed... betrayed and all alone.

@jumajasjas2925

5 жыл бұрын

Suleiman the magnificent is the saddest ending

@peterszucs3387

5 жыл бұрын

Seminal tragedy's ending is pretty heartbreaking too

@neccosan

5 жыл бұрын

Admiral Yi's story by far, was the saddest

@Bardockfan150

5 жыл бұрын

Did you not see The Seminal Tragedy?

He tried so hard, and got so far. But in the end, it doesn't really matter.

@HxH2011DRA

7 жыл бұрын

Cole McCarthy lol

@kshitijsrivastava6440

5 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t even matter*

@balajikumar4027

4 жыл бұрын

Linkin Park lol 😂

@KibblezanBitz

4 жыл бұрын

@Abraham Campos Yep

@purpleblastoise

Жыл бұрын

R.I.P. Chester Bennington

During his last days he is known to have said "I have plowed on the sea", which means he considered his actions to have been meaningless.

@deusexaethera

5 жыл бұрын

It would be slightly more accurate to say he ploughed the beach, because he did actually make progress that lasted just long enough for him to turn around and admire his work, before it was washed away.

Looking at it all Bolivar was just too ambitious. He probably should have stopped at Gran Colombia. Peru and Bolivia were just too different and he burned through the countries money fighting so many Revolutions. Instead he should have spent his time probably consolidating what he had and rebuilding Gran Colombia and then set up the country in a way that might later include other South American states.

@cseijifja

7 жыл бұрын

ShamanMcLamie Peru would have eventually invaded colombia, it was a powerfull royalist viceroyalty after all.

@cseijifja

7 жыл бұрын

MalekitGJ your info is not accuarate at all , Peru was the heart and sould if the dpanish power in SA, just like mexico in central america.Most of the oyher countires feared the use of Peru as a base for spain to reconquer the colonies.

@cseijifja

7 жыл бұрын

MalekitGJ Peru had no skir.ishes active at the time , only a handfull of greedy creoles who wanted to use bolivar to get power in the goverment.The royalist army of SA in its entirety was mainly peruvian , both spaniard-american and native.

@davidkelly4210

7 жыл бұрын

Also, though he had no way of knowing this, Grand Columbia would only need to hold off the Spanish until the Monroe Doctrine. Grand Columbia could have focused on consolidation and economic growth than after the MD was declared expanded across SA without fear of European retaliation.

@cseijifja

7 жыл бұрын

David Kelly you mena the monroe doctrine taht was in place when Peru chile adn ecuador had to solo a spanish navy?, the United states was far from a powerhouse, or event relevant at the time, the US time comes from ww1 forward.

So in short, we have the history of the most successful yet similtanously unlucky men in latin american history :P Well done gentlemen, another fine series.

@LuccianoBartolini

7 жыл бұрын

Just wait until Itúrbide, Pedro II and San Martín

@TheFrankoalberto

7 жыл бұрын

He's an important part of latin american history, but as mention before, he's not the most successful, San Martin or Pedro II may claim tha tittle better. Also, there's nothing of luck in Bolivar's life, he reap what he sow.

@xLanKx

7 жыл бұрын

Pedro II was ousted in a coup. Maybe Pedro I

@edisonmichael6345

7 жыл бұрын

Pedro II would be an interesting topic, but if he came up I would REALLY want to see his infancy (left behind by his father, known as "the saddest prince on Earth", raised by a comitee and having his friends pre-approved and his conversation topics decided by the Senate) and would LOVE to see something about his very unprofessional bickering with José de Alencar about... well, nothing and everything, but both of these topics seem quite minor to figure in a historical profile, so... I think I would be disappointed by a Pedro II presentation anyway.

@Holacalaca

7 жыл бұрын

You're kind of forgettin the empire of Brasil and all of Central America, they had their own revolutionary movements. Also Pedro II (despite his appereance in civ v) is not the Brasilian hero that you might think he was, thta would be Joaquim José da Silva Xavier aka "Tiradentes" (Teethpuller)

Take the throne to act, and the throne acts on you...

@Borderose

7 жыл бұрын

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association. Bolivar couldn't keep the keys happy.

@PitLord777

7 жыл бұрын

Damn, ninja'd!

@neeneko

7 жыл бұрын

Does kinda provide a new lens for looking at these various historical events, which is what the set of theories came out ^_^

@NavasJ

3 жыл бұрын

GPG Grey, I got that reference! Rules for rulers

''He was the libertador'' I have been listening that since i had 5 years old, Is a pretty important part of Venezuela History, Thanks for do this, Extra Credits Team, greetings from Venezuela

@deusexaethera

5 жыл бұрын

A humorous English mis-translation of "libertador" is "libtertator" -- a portmanteau of "liberty" and "dictator". A perfect Latin-American hero!

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain...

@danielhall271

7 жыл бұрын

Unless you are George Washington and step down from power.

@ericlahey7051

7 жыл бұрын

or your Tokugawa and do pretty much the same thing

@VRichardsn

7 жыл бұрын

Or San Martín and also step down from power.

@sandromnator

7 жыл бұрын

This is a dumb meme. He was not in any way a villain. He just failed to unify Latin America.

@Lexender

5 жыл бұрын

Welllll, until this day Bolívar is still remembered and celebrated as the libertador of sudamerica and the founding father of many countries, including other not shown here like Argentina. So I'd say he died a hero still.

It is interesting to see how liberty and dreams to create a grand unified nation, can mean nothing if the people in those nations refuse to cooperate, thus pushing the people with the dreams to desperate measures.

@yasoum9286

7 жыл бұрын

Jalaras Studios you can'force the people to unite just because you want to

@TheFrankoalberto

7 жыл бұрын

He made the same mistake some people still do today, thinking all the people in south america are the same and can be united in one group ignoring all their cultural differences.

@xenoblad

7 жыл бұрын

Jalaras Studios I wonder if the current continental United States would be just as impossible if natives were treated as equals and not killed, and blacks were freed immediately after beating the British. I'd imagine the large cultural differences between the many distinct natives, imported varrying African tribes, and the former British colonists, would be a huge road block towards establishing a united states of similar size in 1776.

@joseaca

7 жыл бұрын

Bolivar was the first to betray this dream, starving the country of resources to feed his army

@jamesgordon3274

7 жыл бұрын

He spoke of liberty, but created tyranny. If liberty was what he truly desired, then a small, loose federation would have been a better path

Bolivar is the man of bad luck isn't he

@ElBandito

7 жыл бұрын

He knew how to conquer, but did not know how to rule.

@Hakudohshi

7 жыл бұрын

Basically the same as Alexander, in that way. They were both charismatic conquerors, but terrible rulers.

@arturomacias6814

7 жыл бұрын

Nah he only knew how to liberate not govern

@Vellrick

7 жыл бұрын

That seems to be a common theme is history.

@Cythil

7 жыл бұрын

I would say he was quite different from Alexander the great. More focus on building a great state then anything else he wanted his legacy to be Grand Colombia more then anything else. He tried to set his affairs in order before he retired. Alexander the great greatest failing however was that he did not even try to create a stable succession. It is said that Alexander's last words was "To the strongest!" when his generals ask who would rule after he died, and so his empires was gone the moment he left. Now I do not know how much truth there is to that story of Alexander. But the Empire did fracture very soon after his death. And there seemed to have been few plans on how to actually make a last empire. Of course Alexander died somewhat quickly at a fairly young age of 32. But Bolivar at least tried to build a lasting nation that would live on beyond his death. But this dream started to fracture even before his death as the video points out so well.

A man is a hero by his doing, not by the result. And he seems to tried enough for his people

@deusexaethera

5 жыл бұрын

I think the number of civilians his armies murdered offset the heroism somewhat.

Oh Símon Bolivar. Champion of liberty and bane of Spanish rule. Though your dreams died in front of you, slowly, rotting into revolution. Your people shall not forget you, nor your sacrifice.

@meinraddreizacker5845

6 жыл бұрын

Roboute Guilliman what are you doing here, in this time?! Why are you not helping the Imperium of Man push back the enemies that gnaws at us?!

@PewPewPlasmagun

5 жыл бұрын

Richard Fore Why do we dilly-dally??? The legions of doom could be wreaking havoc upon the realms of light and justice this instand!!!

@JacatackLP

5 жыл бұрын

Roboute Guilliman Gran Columbia Segundus?

@gssf9

5 жыл бұрын

We will make his dream come to reality

Guys, we really need a long, ten part series on Napoleon. It'll be your magnum opus.

@rjfaber1991

7 жыл бұрын

Napoleon is overrated??? You might argue that his military achievements are, although even then they're not overrated much, but the cultural impact of his reign on both France itself and Europe in general was unbelievably huge. That man was almost single-handedly responsible for spreading the modernisation that the French Revolution brought along across Europe. Do you have a surname that is identical to your relatives? Thank Napoleon for that. Do you eat with a knife and fork? Napoleon. Do you use the metric system? Napoleon. Does your country have coded law? Napoleon...

@vavakxnonexus

7 жыл бұрын

Napoleon is the new Walpole.

@Just.Kidding

5 жыл бұрын

Vavakx Nonexus Justinian is more to thank for coded law than Napoleon.

@MauroEnfermoDeLepra

5 жыл бұрын

Note that they rather talk about the Gracci brothers and not about Caesar

I´m from Colombia and never in my life had someone told me this story in such a compelling way. Thank you for this.

5:31 Star Wars: The Bolivian Empire strikes back

@casualcyberguy1314

6 жыл бұрын

Minrod Vils Episode 7 the salmon awakens

@mrhose3577

5 жыл бұрын

Bolivarian*

jeez, when I was in Venezuela they didn't teach me a lot of this stuff, we where mostly taught the battles and the good things he did, not the bad

@Brian-tn4cd

7 жыл бұрын

Arturo Sanchez but knowing where people have failed teaches us what not to do, if we are only taught the things that worked without mentioning the failures when we reference these events for the future we could make the very same mistakes.

@Brian-tn4cd

7 жыл бұрын

Arturo Sanchez thats true

@Yisas0929

7 жыл бұрын

Not only that, I remember they left out a bunch of details about why and how he had his subordinates shot. I remember my textbook had a bunch of info about what a hero Piar was, and then like a footnote saying he was executed by Bolivar for sedition. Revolutions Podcast is the most fun source for the full story BTW.

@itwsntme

7 жыл бұрын

Same here. But as far as I know, the education system in every country does this. History is always cherrypicked for the country look its best. It's not meant to teach you what happened, but to create patriotism. To be fair even back in the eighties, when I went to school there were already some people saying that school history courses, specially Bolivar's weren't being very honest. Being a kid I just wasn't interested in learning more, but I did come out of it with the sense that there was more to it than what I was told. This series showed me some of that.

@patternedpike3746

7 жыл бұрын

Luis Ortega I also think it stems from a (somewhat misguided) belief that schoolchildren aren't capable of understanding proper nuance. Everything is black and white, good guys and bad guys, in both history and literature. It's the same in science when you think about it. You learn about energy and stuff and little bits of how electricity works on a large scale and remember the diagrams of atoms, but they wait until high school to explain how all these things fit together and just how weird it gets on a small scale.

Illness plagued Simón Bolívar. Evil rumors dogged him. Yet he held fast to his dream of a united South American federation.

@anguewashere

7 жыл бұрын

Brave guy!

@RubyMapper

7 жыл бұрын

Extra Credits I thought Extra Credits was taking a hiatus

@montymonty5040

7 жыл бұрын

Could you touch in the Future San Martín?

@anguewashere

7 жыл бұрын

Ruby Mapper Shhhhhhh

@anobody6234

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the hard work you guys and gals put into the channel I love all your work it's great keep it up

I was supposed to be watching this one history video but this colombian keeps kicking my ass

@museater8729

7 жыл бұрын

Bendeac IS IT THE LEGEND 27?!?!

@thegeneralissimo6172

7 жыл бұрын

is it bolivar27?

@kevinoneal9779

7 жыл бұрын

Was it *Walpole*?

@robertwalpole360

7 жыл бұрын

Was it me?

@kevinoneal9779

7 жыл бұрын

Robert Walpole Yes.

I like your art style. It is nice and pretty.

@LightFykki

7 жыл бұрын

I like your comment. It is nice and positive.

@samramdebest

7 жыл бұрын

I like your response, it applies to itself.

@azaghallordofbelegost1880

7 жыл бұрын

I like your name,it is foreign and unique

@mikabitar2945

7 жыл бұрын

i like this conversation, its positive and nice

@WasItSky

7 жыл бұрын

I like my butt. It smells like poop.

the ending was pretty fucked up

@LuccianoBartolini

7 жыл бұрын

In what way?

@lilthrall

7 жыл бұрын

in Bolivar's mind he was always working towards making the world a better place, but in the end the countries he touched rotted from the inside like his lung. It could read like a lifelong curse.

@worsethenjacksfilms2372

6 жыл бұрын

discount potato Yeah, and Gran Columbia didn't even last past the 1800s, if only he didn't fund so many revolutions, then perhaps his nation would last longer.

@clayxros576

6 жыл бұрын

He made the mistake of overextending his reach, and ended up falling into the void beneath.

No other extra credits history has been this depressing...

@verbfrombonsai8852

6 жыл бұрын

Fennrir First I would actually say Suleiman's story was also depressing, but I changed my mind. This was so depressing. Why people do not want to unite?

@ivanschweizer9146

5 жыл бұрын

Because they're being made to, it's as if you forced Portugal and Spain to unite, it wouldn't go very well

@verbfrombonsai8852

5 жыл бұрын

ivan Schweizer yeah, I got that point. But still, imagine trade from the vast coast of Gran Columbia (not actually, until you added Brazil), the pool of resources, and a competent army (it drained resources A LOT, but they should not have if people would just stop revolting, and if they did not spend a little too much). The benefits are much better at the price of setting aside differences.

@ivanschweizer9146

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe, but you have to think that their liberator was now acting like a dictator in both Peru and Bolivia and didn't seem to care about Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador. Besides, as profitable as it might seem, it's very hard to organize such different people who saw each other almost as rivals when they were starving and in the midst of civil war. This problem is one that has plagued almost every union between different countries.

@verbfrombonsai8852

5 жыл бұрын

Thus, it is depressing that people can't unite.

5:34 If Bolivar had soldiers that can shoot at least halfway decently, he'd have easily kept an united Gran Colombia

@tomjackal5708

7 жыл бұрын

kek

@deusexaethera

5 жыл бұрын

Soldiers can't make citizens happy.

It's a shame you had to rush this a little. Compared to all your other Extra History series, this one had few to none important side characters described and battles and wars were not discussed properly. You're great and your work is important for all of us interested in history anyway. Merry Christmas and happy holidays

@super6pop

7 жыл бұрын

Well, the whole goal of Extra History is to interest people in the topic so they do their own research

@rensenware5375

7 жыл бұрын

This supposed to be more of a wrap- up, I think.

@andresarancio6696

7 жыл бұрын

The life of Bolivar was so full of stuff going on around him that it is kind of hard to tell the stories around him. Unless Extra History does a Justinian like two parter, it is kind of hard to tell the side stories

@maxybaer123

7 жыл бұрын

the justinian one was the best tho

@timlamiam

7 жыл бұрын

Jose Angel C i would patreon support them if they held a patron referendum on extending the series arcs from the 4 or 5 we get to like 8 or 10

Here's freedom, some assembly acquired... Merry Christmas?

@Scarletraven87

6 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas :D

@draconianscout

6 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas

@guessmyname1246

5 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas (I am a month late)

@arandomlanguagenerd1869

5 жыл бұрын

@@guessmyname1246 +2 years

Summary of extra history: Some good shit happens, some bad shit happens, some other good shit happen, another bunch of bad shit happens, and then they died.

@happiness216

7 жыл бұрын

Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus Don't forget about the Walpoles and "why let (blank) get in the way of a (blank)"

@Connie_TinuityError

5 жыл бұрын

Obviously they died, it's not like ANYONE on Extra History would still be alive nowadays.

@terry7987

5 жыл бұрын

Its an exception for Otto von bismark

@noblenaveragemanointernet2582

4 жыл бұрын

@@terry7987 yes, indeed Bismarck's efforts are undoned by the incompetent king, Wilhelm ii

i'm bolivian, and i have to say i feel really bad for him

Now you understand what Machiavelli said about "fortu"? "Fortuna" or luck is something every leader needs to have. You can make the right cabinet, the right decisions, but if luck does not favor you, all you need is some ill time to die without fulfilling your goals. Like Cesare Borgia so was Simón Bolívar an unluck man.

@krishaangkohli2163

6 жыл бұрын

Anderson Andrighi dude Cesare Borgia was an incestuous, cruel, evil douchebag

@kshitijsrivastava6440

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Cesare Borgia was an absolute bastard

@thunderbird7936

4 жыл бұрын

Who dat?

This is probably the saddest Extra History I've seen

@assassinxex

7 жыл бұрын

Orzel600 have you watched the Justinian ones

@YoungSavage

7 жыл бұрын

imo its the seminal tragedy because of what it lead to and how it couldve been avoided.

@Orzel600

7 жыл бұрын

assassinxex those were sad but this ending was just complete sorrow

@Orzel600

7 жыл бұрын

Young Savage the principle of those were sad but not the videos themselves

"You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain" - Harvey Dent

Take the throne to act... And the throne will act upon you...

@tuxedo_productions

7 жыл бұрын

C.G.P. Grey?

@VRichardsn

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, and it is a play on the famous "abyss" quote from Nietzsche.

The source of all the problem was the lack of free cake at Constitution Con.

@rjfaber1991

7 жыл бұрын

It was a con; what would you expect? :p

He who protect everything protects nothing

@geneirai

7 жыл бұрын

he who fights for everything, wins nothing.

Simón Bolívar, like George Washington and Napoleon Bonaparte, was a very complicated man. Like the other two, he did many horrible things, made catastrophic mistakes, would be quite justified in wondering what legacy he was leaving to posterity, but at the end of the day he was still a great man.

The original anakin skywalker

@LuisJoseZ

5 жыл бұрын

Or Batman

@xokopx4246

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@sharilshahed6106

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuisJoseZ how so?

@MrHistory269

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

We did it, the first South American topic has concluded. Bolivar was lone man in death, but hopefully he can see how much he is revered today. And now we have the long wait for lies, there is still a lot James can cover, and I hope he touches on some of it.

7:39 General José María Córdova was the former friend who was killed in battle by Bolivar's army.

meanwhile in Chile we sat down in a corner and saw all shit gone down :)

@franciscosolanille7397

7 жыл бұрын

en chile pelearon, perdieron, se fueron a mendoza, volvieron, pelearon, ganaron y empezaron a construir el pais

@renzotata7501

7 жыл бұрын

yo hablaba mas sobre la pos independencia, o'higgins trato de hacer lo mismo que bolivar se puso dictador y lo exiliaron al momento,

@ferklk

7 жыл бұрын

chile: we like to sit in the corner of latino america and do our own shit

@hexsigil760

7 жыл бұрын

Celebrate the death of a Tyrant. May Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte burn in the pit of hell he begged was real.

@ferklk

7 жыл бұрын

Hex Sigil amen to that brother

Wow, and I thought the Crusades were a clusterfuck

@deusexaethera

5 жыл бұрын

It basically was the Crusades: South America Edition.

I like imagining different ways history could have played out, and when watching this or similar series, I frequently trying to think of how these events could have played differently. For this series, the natural subject is how Grand Colombia could have survived...but it sounds like there wasn't really any way. Bolivar sounds like one of perhaps a few people who saw the whole of Latin America as one nation, one people, to be united under one government. While he had personal charisma and at tactical and strategic prowess (if not enough to be counted among the ranks of Scipio and Yi), he lacked political finesse and other skills required to run a country and seems to have kept turning to dictatorship. If Bolivar had found a league of other talented individuals, like Justinian did in his time...if he had subordinates he felt comfortable delegating power to, rather than requiring complete control...if his vision was shared by others, spread by previous generations or more carefully seeded by Bolivar and his aides...if he was willing to compromise more, rather than trying to force everyone to do things his way...maybe, maybe Grand Colombia could have survived. But could such events come about? Could events in Spanish history have turned out differently to unite the colonies, or events in Bolivar's life brought him the skills and comrades he needed? Any imagined alternate history question has issues like this, of course, but this is different. Bolivar's tale isn't one of near-success, lost by overreach or internal conflict or simply not knowing everything they would have had to know; it's one of a noble endeavor almost sure to fail. I wonder how Bolivar would have acted if he knew what we know today, how his plan would fall apart. Would he continue on, working twice as hard, trying to prove us wrong, or would he try to rethink his plans, cut away from his ambitions? I can't imagine he would just give up, but I guess anything's possible when considering these what-ifs.

@Wildtigger68

7 жыл бұрын

He sought for a Latin America that united all peoples, rich colonialists, slaves, and the surviving natives in what is to this day a continent of vastly differing cultures and morals. If he had succeeded in uniting Latin America as a single nation, they'd surely be one of the world powers these days.

@bladewind21

7 жыл бұрын

Timothy McLean +

@andresarancio6696

7 жыл бұрын

The thing is, Bolivar story repeated more than once in latino America. Jose Gervasio Artigas, and his United Provinces are another case, though he had the socioeconomic power and just lacked resources

@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm

7 жыл бұрын

If anything, the only way I can see Gran Colombia surviving him and maybe existing today would have been keep it "small", with "just" Venezuela, Nueva Granada (Colombia y Panama) and Quito (Ecuador), leaving Peru and Bolivia alone, and focus in stabilize Grand Colombia's politics and rebuild its economy. But as you said, Bolivar would not listen.

@LuccianoBartolini

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, there was one figure that everybody considered to be the one that could have kept the Gran Colombia together: Antonio Jose de Sucre. He was considered Bolívar's son, he was charismatic, he was a very good president (while he ruled in Bolivia) and he was so dangerous to the separatist that he was murdered, in fact, his murder increased Bolívar's disease.

as a colombian, got to say... This is impresive, I mean you think pepople here know all of this!? no what you do is, with no dobut, inspiring. and I also have to say, that it is sad to see, that the colombian history has repeated over and over again since then, we where, are and will always be, a divided nation. thanks man.

@thunderbird7936

4 жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for you :/

This might be just me, as a Venezuelan, but I would want to see his idea of a federation of South American nations, the former gran Colombia, so that we can throw off the Us and Russia trying to influence the nation. To be stable, combining the strengths to be as great as the US. This story was sad, to see everything happening to fought for crumble away because he didn’t know when to stop, or realize he needed more expert help in governing instead of through force

Love these series, so entertaining and educational, keep it up!

Why am I crying?! That was so sad. I wanted so much more for him!

You know, as a Venezuelan I can tell you that this is an approach of our history that we don't get to see often (never). It's so powerful that I can see Bolivar not just as the demi god the school tried to sell mu but as the idealist, sometimes derpy man who did everything he managed and at the end he simple wasted away. I started watching this series from the very moment you uploaded the first episode, but I came torewatch it because it sincerely moves my heart. Thank you guys.

sadness :(

@federicoalmiron9934

5 жыл бұрын

*THE FEELS*

Possibly your best series yet EC! Keep at it, and Merry Christmas!!

I love the horses. Actually everything about the art style is gorgeous but the horses are my favourites. Also: The content is great! All in all: Thank you very much!

I've thoroughly enjoyed everything I watch from you guys. This one aboutsimon Bolivar is wonderful. Being in high school in the sixties he rules mentioned in passing in history class I really love this deep dive. I've always loved history geography and I've studied a lot of other cultures but this was really good. Thank you for your program I've learned a lot from everyone that I have watched and I will continue watching.

3:26 Walpole, are you breaking the time barrier again? P.S: How amazing it would be if we had an OverWatch X Extra History crossover game?

@robertwalpole360

7 жыл бұрын

Well I do have all the time in the world with my Tardis, so it doesn't hurt to go throughout time and peek on historical events. ;)

@MotherSoren

7 жыл бұрын

Bruh what? How would a game like that even work at all, or exist at all. That ideas just plain retarded my dude.

@rodrigorebollos

6 жыл бұрын

Civilization: Extra History edition would be cool too...Hannibal vs Admiral Yi would he pretty epic...

@Kevin-cm5kc

6 жыл бұрын

Cancer Central rofl. You articulated that better than i ever could have

@PorterB92

6 жыл бұрын

With a name like jim bob that doesn't surprise me at all.

I see you there +Robert Walpole What's up?

@robertwalpole360

7 жыл бұрын

I'm doing splendidly. How about you?

@airmanon7213

7 жыл бұрын

Robert Walpole Other than waking up to a nightmare, I'm doing alright, thank you.

@robertwalpole360

7 жыл бұрын

I don't sabotage history, I just make it awesome. ;)

@airmanon7213

7 жыл бұрын

Happy Holidays +Robert Walpole, +Solar Flame, and to everyone else out there! =)

@ol-si4lx

7 жыл бұрын

ha ha ha ha ha

This makes me want to see an episode on Emperor Maximilian the first of Mexico.

i like the writing style of your writers. i love the flow. it is brilliant!! writers love what they write. and making changes to it is very tough. and yet re-moulding it time and again requires a lot. in-fact it humbles you. great work guys.

As an Ecuadorean-American I've always wanted to know more about the history of my parents' country. Really appreciate this awesome video.

Rest in peace, Great Bolivar...your work was never undone, South America is free till now

the legacy of Simon Bolivar truly prevails today with his name widely spoken throughout Latin America. sadly, it's very heartbreaking to see how the Venezuelan dictatorship uses his name as a populist policy, Simon Bolivar was born rich and died poor using his money to finance his own ideals, while the Venezuelan regime officials were mostly born poor and unfairly got rich using the name of this man to their benefit. such hypocrisy disgusts me.

@cvyvckskf373

5 жыл бұрын

not, doesn't matter

@natehiggins2487

5 жыл бұрын

If you're referring to Maduro, it is possible to see him carrying on the Bolivarian dream of Independence from imperialism but instead of one from monarchism it is one from capitalism. He carries on Chavez's legacy of using the rich resources to benefit the people instead of businesses, and this invites trouble to besiege the country attempting to wrestle control of the resources away to not be used to benefit the poor

@LuisJoseZ

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, Venezuela is not a dictatorship, and we took Bolívars mission of freedom and unity, but it is really hard, extra history forgot to menyion one of Bolívars most memorable and profetic quote "The United States of America seems to be guided by providence to plague the Americas with missery in the name of freedom"

@thunderbird7936

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuisJoseZ wut?

@estebanbr7596

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus fcking Chris. You guys shouldnt even use Bolivar name. Venezuelan just back stabbed him at the end and ruined his dream. And now you even used his name to make the narco-terrorist-goverment of Maduro sounds legit. Disgrace shame on you. Just let those poor people have real elections and stop sending the the Colectivos to kill civilians everytime they protest.

I love this channel! Just discovered it last week and already caught myself up!

I

I have to give Latin America credit where credit is due. Revolutionaries in other parts of the world have occasionally allowed the perfect to become the enemy of the good, but Latin American revolutionaries have managed to do it _every single time._ Such consistency requires a level of dedication that I'm just not capable of.

This has been killing me all the way up until this episode, but I had tried not to be _that guy_ this time around. PLEASE, the stress on "Bolivar" is in the "i", the second syllable, BoLIvar, and the stress on Santander is on the "e".

@jynxkizs

7 жыл бұрын

+catdogfishdogcats are you saying they pronounce 'Murica wrong? =^.^=

@deusexaethera

5 жыл бұрын

I hope you complained about their mispronunciation of "junta" in a previous episode. I almost had an aneurysm from that, and I don't even hayblas the espanol.

I wish you guys had a podcast I'd love that

Great, video - respect to you, for outstanding quality!

Walpole! Give us back Bolivar!

Great series as always guys.

I just love Extra Credits. You guys are doing an awesome job :)

Hi Guys! we are Andrea and Alexander , and we are from Venezuela, first of all thank you for this, few times we have seen someone from outside our country treat our history with such care and respect, you actually make us hit the books again, many of the things you talk about they do not teach us in school, they show Bolivar as a grandiose character and not as the human being he was with all his virtues and MANY flaws, we love your representation of the character involve in the history and the extra attention to detail to make the outfits historically accurate, I actually wish they teach us history in school the same way as you guys did, if you ever need a translator or help with anything related to our history feel free to contact us, we will be more than happy to help!!!! Andrea PS: Thanks for the time dedicated to Fransisco "badass" de Miranda (not his actual nickname, but come on! the guy was a badass!) even if this was about Simon Bolivar.

Since there is no UK flag in this video, I feel obligated to point out that the map of Brazil at 00:54 has the state of Acre in it, which was not yet a part of the country. There's also the possibility of Uruguay being part of Brazil at that time, but I'm not sure.

Can you do a series on the Marquis de Lafayette?

@marcuskaiser4770

7 жыл бұрын

Kage342 Yes, I know, but I'm not a Patreon patron (college student), I was just suggesting it in case any patrons saw

@CABRALFAN27

5 жыл бұрын

Part 1: He goes to France for more funds Part 2: He comes back with more guns, and ships, and so the balance shifts.

I love this channel (more for the historical videos). Keep it up!

Simon Bolivar Charismatic, talented, intelligent and completely out of his depth in actually reconciling age old grudges.

also Brazil was culturaly Portuguese , witch would had made things awkard

@saintmaster22

7 жыл бұрын

brazil culturaly is, and was, a mix of many things. african, tribal and portuguese mostly i do catch what you mean though

@pizzapicante27

7 жыл бұрын

So far as I know, they considered themselves Brasilian at that point, which was an important part of the whole, you know, War of Independece, they had from Portugal. Most of American countries at that time considered themseleves, well, American, in Mexico for example you can find writtings talking about the "Mexicaneidad" as far as the 16th century, and there was a renewed interest in rescuing the culture of the nations that was lost during the Conquest. Again using Mexico as an example, Jose Maria y Pavon calls for the Congress of Anahuac (not Mexico) during the war for Independence, Cem Anahuac (Place between water) being the original name of the continent.

@rjfaber1991

7 жыл бұрын

Well, the more awkward thing was that Brazil wasn't just Portuguese, it sort of wás Portugal at this point in history. The Portuguese royal family and government were in Rio de Janeiro, and Brazil had been formally made a part of the Portuguese monarchy, with the title of the Portuguese monarchs changed to "King/Queen of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves" where previously it was only "King/Queen of Portugal and the Algarves".

@thespyfromtf2133

7 жыл бұрын

Robert Faber yes but they only shared monarch family , becouse when Napoleon left Spain moast of the royal family went back and Queen Maria II was chosen to be queen regent , wile her father João I of Brazil stayed in Brazil to govern , then there was a civil war of Portuguese Liberals who wanted an Constitucional Monarchy , lead by Maria II and João I of Brazil , and there was Manuel and his army who wanted a Absolute monarchy

@saintmaster22

7 жыл бұрын

***** at that point in time, italians weren't a thing. i'm from argentina were half of our population is descendant of italians, but that immigration happened during the world wars

Hello. I am chilean and a huge fan of this channel since the very beginning. I was left wondering why is Chile not mentioned in your Simon Bolivar saga. Was it not instrumental or significative on the grand scheme of things according to your vision? I ask because we are not really taught about this epic history in school and i just need to know. Keep up with this amazing work! Saludos desde Chile

@nanaya7e433

7 жыл бұрын

I may be wrong since I'm not that good with South American history, but wasn't Chile freed by San Martin? I'm pretty sure Bolivar had nothing to do with it.

@rjfaber1991

7 жыл бұрын

I think Chile at this point was already pretty much out of touch with the rest of South America, what with the Argentine army annexing the entirety of Transandean Chile and all that. Also, they had Mapuches to fight, which was probably a full-time occupation...

@saintmaster22

7 жыл бұрын

do you mean because of your liberation of because of your participation in the liberation of peru? on regards of your liberation, bolivar had nothing to do with it, san martin and o'higgins are the ones to cheer for. and on regards to your participation in the peruvian liberation, that whole deal was commanded by san martin, who wasn't even mentioned due to his figure being as big as that of bolivar. so mentioning him just as a passerby was a dispurpose to him. i think they plan to make a feature series out of him. so much like argentinean history, i'm affraid you have to wait in the back seat till san martin shows up

@carlosgaleno1659

7 жыл бұрын

Chile has it's own founding fathers, José Miguel Carrera and Bernardo O'Higgins are the more notorious being the ones who initiated the campaing for indepedence. Argentina earned its indepedence earlier than Chile and help it after the mayor set back that started the Reconquista period by the spanish. San Martin and O'Higgins led the armies that ultimately liberated Chile. As new nations Argentina and Chile were friendly to each other but this relationship would sour with time. Regarding Bolivar, San Martín did ledd a coalition of argentinian and chilean to help with the independence of Perú, there were some disagreemenst with Bolivar so once Perú was freed San Martin return to Argentina. I'm skipping a lot but this the general idea. I Invite anyone to correct me I'm just speaking from memory. Ps. Sorry for my english. It's not my native language

@MrGabilonia

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you everyone for your input!

Finally mentioned Páez, and fortunately in a better light than what I initially expected. I hope that by the time you get to the "Lies" segment you get on how you didn't draw the maps of Venezuela with the territories we still held on before disputes lead us to lose some to Colombia and to dispute others with the UK, a dispute that continues today with Guyana.

sad yet beautiful. also, great use of the outro music's title.

Bro yall are doing god's work, I was born and raised Colombian and i didnt know any of this Really puts into perspective the mess going on in my country

I feel a Linkin' Park lyric is in order here for Bolivar: You tried so hard, and got so far. But in the end, it didn't even matter.

Bolivar's life reads almost like a tragedy. A man with so much ambition and love for his country and people, beaten at every turn by misfortune, over ambition and poor planning. He didn't leave behind the state he wished to create, but he left one hell of a legacy.

Fantastic series and animation. I’d heard the name Simon Bolivar and knew he was involved in the South American independence movement, but that was all. I watched all 6 straight, thanks for plugging the hole in my historical knowledge!

a guy from another country literally showed me and teached me about the other side of the history of the man who's last name inspired the name of my country

He should have pulled off a Lelouch to unite Gran Colombia

@HxH2011DRA

7 жыл бұрын

moon tiger I'm with it

@thunderbird7936

4 жыл бұрын

What's tht?

My god, this was almost more sad than the ending to the seminal tragedy.

@LuccianoBartolini

7 жыл бұрын

That's pretty much the story of the Latin American heroes, San MArtín (Argentina), Itúrbide (México), The Braganza Family (Brazil), Antonio José de Sucre and Andrés de Santa Cruz (Bolivia), Paez (yes, he separated Venezuela, but he also had a tragic end). Latin America has a certain affinity with Tragedy, anyone related to us is bound to have a tragic end (like Maximilian I).

@YoungSavage

7 жыл бұрын

i wanted so bad for gran columbia to happen, but since i live in the future i know it only ends badly but still i hoped lol so depressing, at least it wasnt all for nothing, they still had freedom.

@LuccianoBartolini

7 жыл бұрын

Young Savage Oh, the story doesn't end there. There has been many attempts to bring back the Gran Colombia from Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador respectively (all of them has failed) and because of the way Latin America was liberated (with generals involved in politics) a wave of civil wars would strike on the many nations in Latin America (with the exception of Brazil). And most of those civil wars would also bring dictatorships in Latin America. Since I live in Venezuela, I recommend you to check José Antonio Paez, José Tadeo Monagas and Antonio Guzmán Blanco. Those 3 pretty much shaped Venezuela during the 19th century.

@HomemdaFaina

7 жыл бұрын

Except Brazil. Thats because we portuguese are very nice and peaceful people. ahahaha. as if. Our king fled there because of the napoleonic wars and then proceeded to declare independence from his own country...

@nicholascage2352

6 жыл бұрын

Nah the seminal tragedy will always make me cry that is the ultimate ending

Great video and great series. Hope you could get to Jose de San Martin someday. I know his story isn't as mystified as Bolivar but it's still part of the whole story.

interesting series, i had never heard about bolivar before these video's.

This could've happened to the U.S., easily, and it may yet happen.

@dhruvbedi4039

7 жыл бұрын

MagnuMagnus well there was the civil war,abet with fewer belligerent,one could even see some parallels between the war of 1812 and the liberation of peru

@rjfaber1991

7 жыл бұрын

+dhruv bedi - I think that comparison sort of falls flat, but there are indeed certain similarities, yes. Peru certainly was a country where monarchism was far more popular than republicanism, and union with Spain was favoured above all else, since that was where Peru had traditionally got its riches from. Canada was equally very much pro-British, as basically the entire English-speaking population consisted of people who had been fought as Loyalists in the US War of Independence and retained their anti-US views, and the French Canadians (which still made up the vast majority of Canada's population at this point) had become fiercely loyal to the British Crown as well since being conquered in the Seven Years' War.

@dhruvbedi4039

7 жыл бұрын

Robert Faber well one could say the 13 colonies were kind of like the States of gran Columbia except with the amount resentment for each other took second fiddle to the great scope of expansion and wealth to be gained by expanding westward ,one could even say the gusto with Peruvians hated Columbians would be matched by the hate between the Yankees and Virginians of 1780 ,perhaps had the coffers of gran Columbia not been so depleted there wouldve been a union of south American states ,time and again in history we see its the politics of treasure not that of personalities that determines the fate of countries

@ODDnanref

7 жыл бұрын

MagnuMagnus The US has a more unified culture. Though similar Latin culture is more patriotic. Chileans are seen by Peruvians as people who think too highly of themselves, because of the war. That is one example, then you have food which every country is extremely proud of, like almost no way, and the same name for different things does not help either.

@eleSDSU

7 жыл бұрын

There are not 2 latinamerican countries that have similar cultures, there isn't even a pair that speak the same language.

Really really interesting thanks

Just finish watching the Netflix series Bolivar. Great show

I'm never banking at santander again.

Something great stripped off the earth by men not able to comprehend their own stupidity. A brilliant youth, who's dreams and works were all for naught.

Very nice use of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs

Love these vids

This one made me cry :'-(

You should do an episode on Robert the Bruce

Really cool series!!