Reminds me of when Seattle had a similar setup with the “bus tunnel” underground which now has light rail service instead

Still a trolleybus for me even if the trolley wires are only on a small section, it’s sad that not the entire line is electrified...

@reinemenda1393

6 жыл бұрын

L A D I D A D I D A S L O B O N M E K N O B hzhhhh

@humansavages832

5 жыл бұрын

Ah non Monsieur je suis un Mirage-2000 Sad, that sounds ridiculous, it's not dying.

@bmxxgaming4748

4 жыл бұрын

Ah non Monsieur je suis un Mirage-2000 Silver line is a trackless trolley even though some of it isn’t using electricity

@cosmo5164

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, until MBTA decides to install overhead wires in the Ted Williams Tunnel. One day

@davidpomeroy7594

3 жыл бұрын

The silver line is just a bus, not light rail. Watching a video of a bus route is no more exciting than watching paint dry.

Nice. Duo-Bus-Revival of an old german system of the 80ies from the last century..... ;)

It's odd the buses have the dual poles, whereas LRV's with overhead power use a springboard pantograph with a contact bar that runs along the wire (Acela Express is a good example). You'd think the buses would use the same type, so that they can avoid lane obstructions in the city without losing contact with the wire.

@borispopov7095

6 жыл бұрын

Rail vehicles are grounded thru the steel wheels/rail. Rubber tire vehicles require a second wire to complete the electric circuit.

@RRansomSmith

6 жыл бұрын

Bus has to return the negative current and that's why it has a second wire. Pantograph would short out both wires.

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

And, if the coaches use a pantograph, the body would become electrically live as there is way too return the negative current to the power system which is why they have a second wire.

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

@@alden5931 Old style poles have wheels. Newer poles have a rectangular slider with a groove in it that sits under the wire.

@AdiposeExpress

3 жыл бұрын

Old trolleys also used a pole. I think poles are also better for changing lanes, since they can pivot and remain attached to the wire even if the bus is in a different lane, while pantographs would probably lose contact more easily.

When Glasgow, Scotland had them, they were known as the ` Silent Death` after the trams disappeared.

Awesome set up on the Silverliners! Part electrical, part diesel...better than the CNG buses!

Interesting system of transport. Very good video!!. Greetings from Spain

@ksenia588

6 жыл бұрын

®одобрилтобоюбцеллюлозышподцшт

@joshuajoe1419

5 жыл бұрын

Hola

California needs to take notes!!!!!!! Awesome!!!!!

@MIKEJ788

4 жыл бұрын

Also, Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, & New Jersey Transits should Take notes 2

@waynewright2886

3 жыл бұрын

You may Trolleys on Muni in San Francisco, But in Other Parts of California, I don't know? Here in L.A. There was Some kind of Talk to Bring Back Trolley Busses Back to L.A. that were Killed Off with the Streetcars on March 31st 1963, that was Back in the 90's but Never got Off the Ground. & Because B.E.B Busses are Coming into Life California Transit Systems are Focusing on B.E.B.'s, Mainly because of a State Mandate by the California Legislation for Transit Systems to Convert their Busses to B.E.B by 2040, here in L.A. Metro Just Started Putting the 1st of its 40 New Flyer 60 Foot B.E.B Artics on the G Line (Orange Line here in the San Fernando Valley this Summer. Another 5 B.E.B. 60 Footers From BYD will be Added to the G Line also, Along with 60 40 Foot BYD B.E.B's for the J Line (Silver Line). Also BYD & Proterra have B.E.B Bus Plants in L.A. County, About 80 Miles Apart, BYD in Lancaster, 70 Miles from Downtown L.A. & Proterra in the San Gabriel Valley, 25 Miles E. Of Downtown L.A. in Which Foothill Transit had Proterra Busses Built for Them for their Fleet. In Addition, Santa Monica's Big Blue Bus has 1 Gillig B.E.B in its Fleet & Another 20 to 25 Rolling in Within the Next Year or So, that are Being Built by Gillig Up in the Bay Area. So this is Going to Be Interesting with California Transit Systems Turning to B.E.B. Busses in the Future.

They're hybrids! That's amazing!

@ariver7491

3 жыл бұрын

OMG. It's a bus!! For fkin God's sake

@shanewalters2565

2 жыл бұрын

@@ariver7491 What's your problem?

It would have been nice to show other parts of the Silver Line besides the South Station stop, the tunnel, the point where the trackless trolleys switch to diesel and back, and the airport.

@luismoreira3711

4 жыл бұрын

Is It truu

The city of Arnhem in the Netherlands still has trolley buses, it's the only remaining city in the country to have them.

These look like the buses I saw while visiting Vancouver. They can run on battery power. They sound like vacuum cleaners. In San Diego the roof line stores compressed natural gas (CNG). Are some of these buses hybrids?

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

No. They're dual mode. That's all electric equipment on the roof

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

Diesel engine and electric motor powered

I just realized something. Why can't the MBTA order 60ft hybrids that uses hush mode systems or even electric articulated BYD buses?

How do they connect so effortlessly to the overhead wires?

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

Plastic guides on the wires. Look at the wires where they stop at before they enter the tunnels. The poles have hydraulic lift mechanisms on the roof of the coaches that lift them up to the wires. As long as the driver parks at the correct spot on the ground, the guides will push them onto the wires.

I wish our Philly New Flyers had automatic pole lowering and application to the catenary. Every time a 59, 66, or 75 bus goes out of service or experiences an obstacle, the driver has to get off the bus and lower the poles or reapply them to the wires.

yep

Wowo I wish I saw footage of the BReda trolleys in Seattle doing this

What's the high pitched- and blowing noise ?

@arifakyuz7673

5 жыл бұрын

Friction against the cables

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

High pitch is the electric motors. Hissing is the pneumatics used to raise and lower the poles.

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

@@arifakyuz7673 that's not what it is

Wat are those things hooking to the electric power wire

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Pole collectors. That's how they get their power

QUE CHIDO CAMION

how the hell do the poles just fling themselves to the wire? Must be a magnet or something in that one spot. why do they switch to diesel if there are wires everywhere?

@happy--user

6 жыл бұрын

The poles have springs attached to them so they are always trying to stand up vertically when not connected to the wires or held down by the ropes.

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Air powered. There are hooks that hold the poles down and are controlled by air pressure.

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Once the hooks release, the springs pull the poles at their bases which makes them pop up and the ropes on the back keep the poles from flying straight up

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

And there aren't wires everywhere. Only in the tunnel. Outside, they run as buses.

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

@PETER KAMARU that's what I said

It’s a bus. Sometimes an electric bus. Problem with the SL is that there are no dedicated lanes in the tunnel, so going to/from airport gets you stuck in the same traffic with the cars. Whatever advantage may have existed using transit dies.

Its a hybrid system but is still trolleybus, there are also with 1 horn too.For me look stupid to have diesel too cuz the point is to have vehicle only on electricity and keep the hature clean! In the hybrid you got power but also keep making polution!I prefer torlleys,tramps,eleveted trains, monorails and lifts cuz that save us and the nature!

5:23 on the left. what is this thing? :)

@ethancampbell6076

6 жыл бұрын

That's a building they're working on

@pearlyhumbucker9065

6 жыл бұрын

Its a bus of the "Old Town Trolley Tours of Boston". "Old Town Trolley Tours" is a company you may find in several american towns, they offer sightseeing tours in buses which are looking somewhat "trolley-ish".

@davidjames8613

5 жыл бұрын

@@pearlyhumbucker9065 yea like Philadelphia

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidjames8613 we don't have those in Philly. Similar vehicles but not those

Must have good aim to connect to these cantenary lines.

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Nope. Markers on the ground. Just line the bus up with them, trigger the pneumatic system to raise/lower the poles and the hangers on the wires do the rest.

Cool

I am curious why they did not go for the full electric trolleybus system, but chose a hybrid form. As if the city did not fully trust trolleybuses. It might strengthen the perception of (some) Americans that do not like to let go of the combustion engine.

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

No overhead wires on an interstate highway per USDOT and FHA

bout time

It has reminded me this clip: 【ｱﾙﾍﾟﾝﾙｰﾄ4K前面展望】東芝VVVF搭載の関電トロリーバス　扇沢→黒部ダム

They don't make trolleybuses like they used to, back in the eighties in the seventies they were everywhere now look good today there are very limited

@Smot_Vee

4 жыл бұрын

that's in the usa

How much does a trolleybus driver in USA (for example in Boston) make an hour?

@ivandemyanov9398

3 жыл бұрын

www.indeed.com/career/bus-driver/salaries Согласно этому сайту, автобусник 23$ в час зарабатывает (рабочий день длится 8 часов). Думаю, зарплата троллейбусников не сильно отличается

@ariver7491

3 жыл бұрын

@@ivandemyanov9398 WRONG. WAY MORE THAN THAT.

@ariver7491

3 жыл бұрын

Im not going to be specific. Here's an idea in 5 years from 30 to 39 dollars an hour. That's why people hate them in Boston. Haters!!!!

These (expensive) hybrid vehicles are really just a stopgap. In the end, they'll have to either electrify the whole route or come up with the money to put it all underground. Maybe they're waiting for a workable battery system.

@martinwright970

6 жыл бұрын

The latest development is a battery- trolleybus hybrid. The trolleybus only needs 50% of the route with wires. It charges its batteries on that half of the route, then runs on batteries on the unwired part of the route say up to 20 miles on batteries before it needs to recharge. Unfortunately in Boston the tunnel section with wires is quite short, so to make the battery-trolleybus system work, they would have to wire up some of the overground section too.

@Bobrogers99

6 жыл бұрын

Good to hear of that hybrid development! As the cost of fossil fuel creeps up, it may become economically feasible to wire more of the route.

@EpicThe112

5 жыл бұрын

@@martinwright970 well said but the one going to Logan Airport has to stay in diesel engine because it uses Interstate 90 New York State Thruway Indiana East-West toll road Illinois tollway's Massachusetts and Ohio turnpikes Ted Williams Tunnel.

@waynewright2886

3 жыл бұрын

Seattle's King County Metro had Artic Trolleys from a Italian Maker in the 90's & were Retired Off Last Decade & it was a Love & Hate with Their Dual Powered Artic Trolleys, One because the Busses were Heavier Because of the Engines, Now All Replaced by New Flyer Trolley Artics Today.

sensacional o condutor não precisa descer do ônibus para ligar ou desligar o trólebus a rede área de energia , alô ambiental transportes

So it has a diesel engine too???

@Virre737

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It is a hybrid

Are theses the Neopolitan buses there using

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Neoplan

@waynewright2886

3 жыл бұрын

Yes... but Neoplan went out of Business the Early Part of this Century, they had a Plant Based in Lamar Colorado, Transit Systems Like Here in L.A. Metro & Then RTD Bought a Hoard of Neoplans, Starting With Double Decker Busses in the Mid 70's & Early 80's & 415 40 Footers from then RTD in 84 in Time for the 84 Olympics, Over 700 40 Foot CNG Busses from Now L.A. Metro Between 95 to 99. Also San Francisco Got Neoplans, Articulated, 40 Footers & Trolley Busses for the Muni Fleet. Pittsburgh & Philadelphia also Bought Neoplans in their Fleet in the Past Like Boston's T System also. Why they Fell Through the Bottom & Shut Down Just After the Turn of the Century I Can't Explain?

el primer trolebus articulado del mundo es de ecuador

What's the point of being a trolleybus in a tunel but being a diesel bus after the tunel???

@edwardmiessner6502

5 жыл бұрын

Because it's entering an interstate highway tunnel a short distance away and the Feds won't allow trackless trolley wires inside it.

@tionstav5799

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking more about carbon monoxide poisoning in tunnel stops.

@TIMBOWERMAN

5 жыл бұрын

That was going to be my reply, you do not want to be poisoned by carbon monoxide from diesel fumes and gas fumes in a tunnel.

@FrostyAUT

4 жыл бұрын

@@edwardmiessner6502 More importantly, the max speed of trolley buses when they are connected to the overhead wires is about 70 kph. For higher speeds, they have to be disconnected.

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

@@FrostyAUT not true. All depends on the wire construction.

Those busses need a serious cleaning

What stop was that? 1:35

@southshorerailvideos1122

3 жыл бұрын

@CrappyDreams No shi* the stop name lol

@southshorerailvideos1122

3 жыл бұрын

@CrappyDreams fair enough

I wonder why the power seems totally be switched off when the bus is changing power source like the screen is switched off

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Can't run both together

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Defeats the purpose

Why?

@sgt.eclair

6 жыл бұрын

Edson Canal Why not?

não tem catracas como toda cidade Europa e USA

I like the low tech solution to guiding the poles back to the wires. Nowadays someone might propose roof-mounted 3D laser scanning devices and multiple motors to articulate the poles with robotic joints. Keep it simple, stupid.

Personally I prefer bolley trusses

Whot in the sity only bus

Здорово, а у нас закрыли депо

The transit looks cool but the busses are too old

It looks like Indian made Tata buses with Tata logo.....

i don't understand; why not just use gasoline or diesel? Installing all these lines seems like it would mitigate the cost savings.

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

Electric is cheaper. Plus, can't use fuel underground as it would pollute the tunnel without adequate ventilation, which would drive the cost of operation up.

@waynewright2886

3 жыл бұрын

Hybrid, CNG, or B.E.B.is Better, Mainly B.E.B. cause it Don't Pollute, but Transit Systems also have Concerns with the Battery Range on the B.E.B Busses, Mainly if their Stuck in Traffic.

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

@@waynewright2886 CNG is no go in tunnels except certain situations because they do still give off fumes. Hybrids have to stay below 30 to keep only the battery working and the diesel fumes down, but the fumes could still come out on idle. Battery, it works, but not so much with stop and go and really all depends on range. Trackless-Trolley (or trolleybus) really makes the most sense since there is no pollution problem and it lasts as long as the powertrain and overhead equipment are intact.

@antonnovotny4499

2 жыл бұрын

@@waynewright2886 Nowdays in cities with trolleys is very clever and sustainable to operate dual/hybrid trolleybuses that which charge battery during road under wire...

Es un camión de pasajeros con opción a cambio de tracción eléctrica para el modo trolebús. La idea es fascinante y también sería un transporte muy rentable en muchas ciudades del Continente Americano. 👍🏻

The answer here is a dual mode bus because it has to use Interstate 90 Massachusetts and Ohio Turnpikes Illinois Tollway Indiana East-West toll road New York State Thruway Boston Harbor tunnel to reach Logan Airport. For these Neoplan buses XT60 with a Diesel engine can replace them

@RRansomSmith

4 жыл бұрын

Just say I90. All that extra stuff is irrelevant.

@EpicThe112

4 жыл бұрын

@PETER KAMARU ok then but XT40 with diesel engine might work for the Harvard Bus Tunnel routes like the 77,71 & 73. Since they can be rotated between Harvard Bus tunnel and I-90 Silver Line

Tu

If the purpose of an electric bus is not to pollute, why do drivers lower the pantograph?