Next Generation of Trolleybuses in Dayton, Ohio, USA 2018

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Dayton, Ohio is one of five cities in the United States to have a trolleybus (trackless trolley) system still in operation. The city has a population of 140,000, making it the smallest city in North America with a trolleybus system.
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In May 2013, RTA placed an order with Vossloh Kiepe for four prototype low-floor, dual-mode buses, the first of which (No. 1401) arrived on September 29, 2014, and the other three between November 2014 and January 2015. Gillig provided the bus bodies, using its "BRT" model, into which the Vossloh Kiepe propulsion equipment was installed. All four are capable of operating as trolley buses, but for operation away from the trolley wires, two use a diesel-powered generator to power the traction motors (similar to a hybrid bus) and two use batteries only. Vossloh Kiepe referred to the technology as "NexGen", for Next Generation, a branding that RTA has also used when referring to the new vehicles. ~Wikipedia
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Unfortunately only the NextGen were operating as the other trolley routes seemed to have construction or other issues; thereby reducing the amount of trolleybuses running on this day of filming to (two or three?) nextgen. At first it seemed that they were not running trolleybuses at all.
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  • @johnwoa
    @johnwoa4 жыл бұрын

    I'm very happy to see that Dayton still operates trolley buses. I'm originally from Cincinnati and I frequently rode the old Marmon-Herrington trolley buses (Cincinnati Transit Co.) that ran there prior to 1965. As a youngster, I loved those trolley buses! When I came to Toronto, Ontario in 1986, the Toronto Transit Commission (TTC) still operated trolley buses (the "old" Flyer trolley buses) on many routes. The trolley buses finally disappeared from Toronto streets in 1993 but we still have our extensive streetcar network to this day.

  • @hemprope4326
    @hemprope43264 жыл бұрын

    Trolleybuses are one of the best forms of public transit. They should be in use everywhere. They're not harmful to the environment, but they have all the advantages of a normal bus. They're also more affordable because they don't require gas.

  • @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory

    @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    "they have all the advantages of a normal bus" You cannot reroute them, and they are stuck to their overhead wire. It might as well be a streetcar or tram. The only difference is, they might be able to pass other vehicles and have better acceleration, and cost less. Normal buses are superior, as they can go anywhere.

  • @antonnovotny4499

    @antonnovotny4499

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory You really didn t get what re this next generation trolleybuses, this re ones that can go even without wire thanks to battery which is charged during ride...

  • @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory

    @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antonnovotny4499 still somewhat limited to overhead wire

  • @antonnovotny4499

    @antonnovotny4499

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory Normal buses re limited to diesel stations and elektrobuses re limited to charging stations and cabels, none of them is capable of doing it during ride... also to store energy in battery during charging loses 10 - 20 % of energy and diesel motor isn t so effectiv as electric...

  • @makeachaininthecommentsect7953

    @makeachaininthecommentsect7953

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not harmful for the environment? They recieve power from coal power plants, which emit 2 times more CO2 than ICE cars and nuclear power plants, that require mining and transporting radioactive materials, produce nuclear waste and are pretty dangerous if something goes wrong.

  • @steve1reg
    @steve1reg5 жыл бұрын

    Hey, not only does Dayton have trolley buses. But at :27 in the video, we see a sign for an Arby's Roast Beef Restaurant that must date back about 40 years! The chain used to use a cowboy hat sign, and there it is, as the #8 trolley bus goes by.

  • @jemdude22
    @jemdude225 жыл бұрын

    The bus is soooooo clean smooth and SILENT.... niceeeee

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    You should come to Dayton and ride these buses because man lol 😁 they sound good

  • @DanTheCaptain
    @DanTheCaptain5 жыл бұрын

    It's truly a shame how many American and Canadian cities got ride of Trolleybuses and Trams. I wish more would have survived

  • @kae4466

    @kae4466

    5 жыл бұрын

    you can blame the three major usa automakers for that along with standard oil and a few other industrial giants.

  • @DanTheCaptain

    @DanTheCaptain

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @mrbrainbob5320

    @mrbrainbob5320

    5 жыл бұрын

    Besides Toronto,Montreal and Vancouver canadian cities arent that big

  • @urbanviii6557

    @urbanviii6557

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kae4466 Absolutely true. One of the greatest conspiracies in the 20th c. in North America. May those conspirators, who made billions of $, rot in hell! They fucked up the American cities. And the taxpayers funded trillions of dollars for the jammed up, clogged freeways of 12 lanes or more, all over the country, and smog so dense to kill people.

  • @charonsferryold

    @charonsferryold

    5 жыл бұрын

    And of course, the cabal that killed them still runs America! Forget about the Freemasons, the Globalists or whatever, the trolley-killers are the real secret rulers of America.

  • @billjohnston4603
    @billjohnston46033 жыл бұрын

    San Francisco , Seattle and Vancouver have trolleybuses as well.

  • @GamerRobYT

    @GamerRobYT

    Жыл бұрын

    And philadelphia and boston

  • @WAL_DC-6B

    @WAL_DC-6B

    6 ай бұрын

    @@GamerRobYT Boston discontinued trolleybuses in 2022.

  • @frankdenardo8684
    @frankdenardo86842 жыл бұрын

    San Francisco, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston are the other cities that use trolley buses. Vancouver is the only Canadian city still operating.

  • @davidwhite3180
    @davidwhite3180 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely enjoyed driving these buses

  • @jamallhayden2512
    @jamallhayden2512 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video!

  • @GlobalGaming101
    @GlobalGaming1015 жыл бұрын

    In Tucson, Arizona we have a small streetcar route. The railing is embedded into the road. Would be kinda cool if they added trolly busses to the city.

  • @longiusaescius2537

    @longiusaescius2537

    8 ай бұрын

    @GlobalGaming101 have they yet?

  • @arifakyuz7673
    @arifakyuz76735 жыл бұрын

    Trolley buses are a very effective mode of transportation. Cheaper than trams and less polluting than gas buses!

  • @FrostyAUT

    @FrostyAUT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cheaper than trams, yes, but not without problems.

  • @evanstonbalce9588

    @evanstonbalce9588

    4 жыл бұрын

    FrostyAUT Every problem has solutions.

  • @sungeek2438
    @sungeek2438 Жыл бұрын

    What a gem!!!!!

  • @kae4466
    @kae44665 жыл бұрын

    nice looking busses.

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    You should come to Dayton Ohio you would love are buses

  • @LSM_Lover
    @LSM_Lover5 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Cool video! I'v never seen a trolley bus.

  • @jemdude22

    @jemdude22

    5 жыл бұрын

    You should go ride one and you'll love it!

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rail Faner if you come to Dayton Ohio we have are 1998 skoda trolleys and those Next gen trolleys are good to

  • @josueuribe213
    @josueuribe2134 жыл бұрын

    Excelentes trolebuses de Ohio.

  • @t3transport585
    @t3transport5855 жыл бұрын

    Well, when I saw "Dayton" in the title I was really looking forward to seeing some Škoda trolleybuses, but now I'm quite disappointed :( I hope they didn't stop operating definitely..

  • @timosha21

    @timosha21

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping too! For the first two hours I did not see a single trolleybus of any kind and thought that they stopped running them. After talking with bus drivers and dispatchers on the ground they claim that most trolley routes have road construction work which trolleybuses cannot traverse.

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do you like Greater Dayton rta buses

  • @mortonberenbaum2696

    @mortonberenbaum2696

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@timosha21 ïi>hi

  • @safeatthird6060
    @safeatthird60604 жыл бұрын

    So COOL

  • @michaelheintz8853
    @michaelheintz88533 жыл бұрын

    Trolleys were all I ever knew growing up in Dayton.

  • @spaceace1006
    @spaceace10062 жыл бұрын

    I went to SF back in 1997. I had never before seen Electric Buses that used overhead lines!

  • @seanshen8325
    @seanshen83255 жыл бұрын

    Curious about why this route survived? Its the only trolleybus route in dayton. Other cities have trolleybus like seattle, SF, Philly, they all have numerous lines equipped with trolley bus, large fleet and in all, developed transit system.

  • @RRansomSmith

    @RRansomSmith

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not so much here in Philly. We have 38 coaches serving 3 lines in Northeast Philly.

  • @evanstonbalce9588

    @evanstonbalce9588

    5 жыл бұрын

    San Francisco has the largest fleet.

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@evanstonbalce9588 how many trolleys have you rode

  • @waynewright2886

    @waynewright2886

    5 жыл бұрын

    San Francisco Has Put Out 40 Foot New Flyer Trolleys for its Muni Fleet Last Year, & I Think their Still Replacing them as I Post! I got to Ride their Newer 60 New Flyer Articulated Trolley Bus (7200 Series), on its Busy #5 Line Last May Around 11PM, & I Did Good Climbing Hills, & was Crowded Also!

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@waynewright2886 cool how many ETIs are in service

  • @marcelcharbonnier297
    @marcelcharbonnier297 Жыл бұрын

    Some french cities have trolleybuses like Lyons, Nancy, Limoges and Saint-Étienne, my native city where the tramway line (7 km long) created in 1900 never ever was dismantled. There are more and more trams in France (about 8 lines in Paris and its suburbs). Switzerland too has many trams and trolleybuses, perhaps it's due to the abundance of hydroelectricity in this country ? They are modern, silent and environment-friendly.

  • @MJofLakelandX
    @MJofLakelandX5 жыл бұрын

    Legit captures. Dayton just seem like the most unusual place to have trolleybuses survive but they are a gem among a small crowd. I can imagine Baltimore bringing ETBs back but our city planning is piss poor "like always"; plus, we have a hard enough time trying to get a light rail line to surpass the funding phase.

  • @cruzechevy3485

    @cruzechevy3485

    5 жыл бұрын

    Y'all still have more campared to these guys

  • @gameguild1555
    @gameguild15555 жыл бұрын

    I heart there are 2 other types of trolleybusses. One that can use the overhead line of the tram or where the chare at the begin or end of the line

  • @pzavis25
    @pzavis252 жыл бұрын

    I saw a lot of those in Salzburg

  • @metropolitantransit7276
    @metropolitantransit72762 жыл бұрын

    We need trolley buses back.

  • @timosha21

    @timosha21

    2 жыл бұрын

    indeed!

  • @bartenderedge7450
    @bartenderedge74505 жыл бұрын

    That Lovely Trackless Trolley Oh Yes

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hay you rode these buses before

  • @bartenderedge7450

    @bartenderedge7450

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@darrylclay2105 not quite if I see another one that says Next Generation Trackless Trolleys Right After Septa New Flyer Trackless Trolley Bus I Wish There Was The Same One Doing The Same Service Today Like Gillg Trackless Trolleys Too But No New Flyer Trackless Trolleys Replacement A Back Up Services And Peaks And Rush hour An Trackless Trolleys Tours it's True That Really True

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bartenderedge7450 oh do you think you will ride one sometime

  • @bartenderedge7450

    @bartenderedge7450

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@darrylclay2105 Sure When I Visiting Arrive at Dayton Ohio it's True

  • @hobog
    @hobog3 жыл бұрын

    Do they have the new pole tech that Seattle could really use, the stuff that minimises bounces that break contact?

  • @chevrolet1319

    @chevrolet1319

    3 жыл бұрын

    These are able to go 50 mph on straight wire no problem! Even if the roads are bad

  • @darrylclay2105
    @darrylclay21055 жыл бұрын

    Timosha 21 do you no if Dayton rta will keep some of the older trolleys or scrap them

  • @imgursdownvote4love771

    @imgursdownvote4love771

    4 жыл бұрын

    They kept one for their historic fleet

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@imgursdownvote4love771 yeah we have 10 left in service

  • @waynewright2886
    @waynewright28865 жыл бұрын

    I Have Never Seen a Gillig Trolley Bus, Not Even San Francisco Has Gillig Trolleys in its Fleet Only New Flyer & What's Left of the Neoplan Trolleys in the Muni Fleet, but Not Gillig, & Gillig's Headquarters & Plant is Across the Bay in Pleasanton, Calif, which Moved it's Headquarters & Plant in Hayward to its Current Site, in the Same County (Alameda) about 20 or 30 Miles Away a Couple of Years Ago!

  • @donaldduck1386
    @donaldduck13862 жыл бұрын

    how I love the trolleybus is the most inspiring impressive transport when trolleybus wires pass over the highway and the trolleybus rods slide along the wires it's so inspiring it's impressive it's a whole landscape but it's a pity if in the near future the trolleybus is removed the wires are dismantled it's a pity there won't be a trolleybus it will be boring without a trolleybus in many cities trolleybuses were removed in moscow trolleybuses were removed the largest trolleybus network in new zealand in Wellington the trolleybus was removed left-hand drive steering wheel on the right door on the left is the most inspiring trolleybus the only trolleybus the city of left-hand traffic where the trolleybus was removed, it's a pity that soon the trolleybus will begin to be removed around, because first-class electric buses have already been produced, buses on acomulators TESLA has already released such and it's a pity that trolleybuses on wires will soon disappear from these buses and it will be boring without them, it will be nice to see how trolleybus wires pass along our street of our city and a trolleybus passes through them, it's a nice, classic landscape and it's a pity soon there will be no wires for trolleybuses, only one will walk electric buses and electric buses as a landscape do not inspire but a trolleybus with wires inspire and soothe

  • @drdewott9154
    @drdewott91545 жыл бұрын

    1:02 Did he just use the emergency blink there without turning it off?

  • @softwerksaol

    @softwerksaol

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought he same, driver appears to leave hazard lights on continuously.

  • @centredoorplugsthornton4112
    @centredoorplugsthornton41125 жыл бұрын

    OK what's up with Dayton having only one trolleycoach route with the prototypes, and the Skoda ETBs parked? Does RTA have enough diesel buses to cover trolleybus routes? Or is it restarting its spiral to transit's lowest common denominator?

  • @kevinjones8778

    @kevinjones8778

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dayton has a lot of trolley routes more than one I'm from there

  • @centredoorplugsthornton4112

    @centredoorplugsthornton4112

    5 жыл бұрын

    I skimmed Wikipedia. Dayton RTA has rts 1 thru 5 plus 7 and 8 as trolleycoach lines. But they often mix diesel buses and trolleybuses on these routes. Only 35 of the 54 Skoda ETBs still operate. RTA will only get 26 production ETBs from the builder they have the 4 prototypes from.

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@centredoorplugsthornton4112 did you hear about those 2700s they retired

  • @centredoorplugsthornton4112

    @centredoorplugsthornton4112

    5 жыл бұрын

    Darryl Clay no which ones were they?

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@centredoorplugsthornton4112 those were gilligs they got replace by new gilligs the new ones are 1800s

  • @Quince828
    @Quince8285 ай бұрын

    Those ads and loud announcements sound really annoying. Would put one right off public transit.

  • @joshuaa8355
    @joshuaa83554 жыл бұрын

    how awful it must be to have loud and annoying ads blasting on your busride

  • @mlmix9171
    @mlmix91715 жыл бұрын

    And Škoda 14TrE ended in Dayton?

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    How did it ended we still have our 1998 skoda trolleys. those New Nexgen trolleys will wipe those skodas out

  • @cfr8889
    @cfr88895 жыл бұрын

    The wires looks like in Romania

  • @chuckcamarcefilmsstudios3801
    @chuckcamarcefilmsstudios38015 жыл бұрын

    Did all of Dayton's Older Trolleys retire?

  • @darrylclay2105

    @darrylclay2105

    5 жыл бұрын

    As of right now Dayton's trolleys are still running by 2019 they will retire to replace with the Nextgen trolleys

  • @imgursdownvote4love771

    @imgursdownvote4love771

    4 жыл бұрын

    They're all gone now (as of December)

  • @Neudovletvorenkoff
    @Neudovletvorenkoff5 жыл бұрын

    а у вас есть видео пожарные машины Нью Йорка?

  • @milwaukee1486
    @milwaukee14865 жыл бұрын

    Dayton should just get a streetcar

  • @videonut1988

    @videonut1988

    4 жыл бұрын

    Milwaukee 148, Baby steps for DRTA...

  • @WAL_DC-6B

    @WAL_DC-6B

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, in addition to the trolleybuses.

  • @halloweenruntz
    @halloweenruntz4 жыл бұрын

    This whole video is the 8 one clip was the 1 or the 4

  • @litlgrey
    @litlgrey3 жыл бұрын

    I swear to god, those vehicles are nothing but recent Natural Gas buses - still sporting their Natural Gas caps exactly as seen throughout the COTA System in nearby Columbus and elsewhere - hastily converted for electric line use. I'm more than open to anyone proving me wrong about this.

  • @chevrolet1319

    @chevrolet1319

    3 жыл бұрын

    Those are BRT Plus Body’s that’s all... They are fully Electric and weigh a lot more than CNG buses. They just use the frame and body.

  • @litlgrey

    @litlgrey

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chevrolet1319 Ah, thank you. i didn't know that.

  • @neotastic5731
    @neotastic57313 жыл бұрын

    Well this is why we have subways...

  • @metro43
    @metro432 жыл бұрын

    Electric buses

  • @plamenpanchev312
    @plamenpanchev3125 жыл бұрын

    What's the reason buses and trolleybuses in USA to have not cab for the driver? It's stupid...

  • @videonut1988

    @videonut1988

    4 жыл бұрын

    Plamen Valentinov, it’s still a bus. No need for a cab for the driver like light rail cars.

  • @nikolastaikov-yh7ry
    @nikolastaikov-yh7ry Жыл бұрын

    Bruh in ohio

  • @Bugaran
    @Bugaran5 жыл бұрын

    Solaris trolleys in Europe are better

  • @Tigerwarhawk

    @Tigerwarhawk

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good for them.

  • @waltkeast9777
    @waltkeast97775 жыл бұрын

    A downtown of nothing...

  • @georgerascon1825
    @georgerascon18255 жыл бұрын

    so hideous lol

  • @artificialintelligence5087
    @artificialintelligence50874 жыл бұрын

    We don't need trolleybuses. Oil companies need to have food on the table, too. Oil, oil, oil, OIL. Use oil.

  • @evanstonbalce9588

    @evanstonbalce9588

    4 жыл бұрын

    Occupy Mars Trolleybus manufacturers need to make profits too.

  • @billw.9743

    @billw.9743

    3 жыл бұрын

    So says the 'wizard' of nothing! Perhaps you should live on 'Mars'---have an unsafe trip!