Sieges and Siege-craft

Sieges in the ancient and medieval worlds were on quite different scales. 10,000 men can do things differently from 500.
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  • @egeerdem8272
    @egeerdem82724 жыл бұрын

    "The Lads in the Castle" would be a great title for a sitcom

  • @andrew12bravo21

    @andrew12bravo21

    3 жыл бұрын

    Luv it...or "the Children Chained in the Dungeon"

  • @craigmurphy1204

    @craigmurphy1204

    3 жыл бұрын

    This week, Gerald holds off a siege by the French, whilst Rupert encounters a messy problem in the latrine pits. What a kerfuffle.

  • @craigmurphy1204

    @craigmurphy1204

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pilot episode titled "Dost thou calleth me a lyre?" or something

  • @theonlybass8947

    @theonlybass8947

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@craigmurphy1204 come back next week to find out who stole Paul’s bodkin!

  • @mickey4125

    @mickey4125

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@craigmurphy1204 BOOM

  • @ThZuao
    @ThZuao8 жыл бұрын

    How to get rid of a castle: Beat it with a sword until it catches fire. Then it collapses.

  • @EyeOfEld

    @EyeOfEld

    8 жыл бұрын

    But once you become imperialistic, it is just easier to use trebuchets and bombards.

  • @KorKhan89

    @KorKhan89

    8 жыл бұрын

    +EyeOfEld Nah, nothing sets fire to a castle better than a cluster of good old fashioned siege rams, particularly if you're the Mongols.

  • @EyeOfEld

    @EyeOfEld

    8 жыл бұрын

    Rams are pretty good in castle, but they are exposed to enemy infantry. I prefer to sit back at a distance and batter it down from relative safety.

  • @spartankongcountry6799

    @spartankongcountry6799

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@EyeOfEld My petards would like to speak with you.

  • @indorilnerevar3161

    @indorilnerevar3161

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was about to like but it's on 666 so I won't break it

  • @euchale
    @euchale8 жыл бұрын

    Wait, are you telling me that Age of Empires lied to me and foot soldiers were not actually attacking walls with their swords?

  • @beaconrider

    @beaconrider

    8 жыл бұрын

    Age of Empires has swords that can cut stone.

  • @frostboomba1462

    @frostboomba1462

    8 жыл бұрын

    of course they didn't attack with their swords, they used their spears.

  • @maybeitsgone5081

    @maybeitsgone5081

    8 жыл бұрын

    So they didn't just fire a crap lot of arrows at walls either :O

  • @SprayedToTheBone2

    @SprayedToTheBone2

    8 жыл бұрын

    Maybe theres a lost piece of history and medieval nights made their longswords like katanas and AOE got it right.

  • @euchale

    @euchale

    8 жыл бұрын

    iyke ewnaho Do you mean Spandaus using Katanas as their bayonet?

  • @stoutyyyy
    @stoutyyyy8 жыл бұрын

    A katana could easily cut through castle walls, and then you could mow down the men inside with a spandau.

  • @williamchurchill203

    @williamchurchill203

    8 жыл бұрын

    A piece of Lindybeige just died

  • @elias549

    @elias549

    8 жыл бұрын

    +William Churchill Why? Seems reasonable enough in my opinion.

  • @williamchurchill203

    @williamchurchill203

    8 жыл бұрын

    I don't really know. I think he'd say something about japan being on the other side of the world and time periods but that stuff doesn't make sense to me

  • @willek1335

    @willek1335

    8 жыл бұрын

    > ...with a spandau. Too soon.

  • @AvianSavara

    @AvianSavara

    8 жыл бұрын

    Which piece, though? I'm rather curious.

  • @danielbat9887
    @danielbat98878 жыл бұрын

    God dammit jack, you had the chance to pick fire arrows!

  • @lindybeige

    @lindybeige

    8 жыл бұрын

    Soon!

  • @hebl47

    @hebl47

    8 жыл бұрын

    Do flaming thrown pommels instead!

  • @MrPulversson

    @MrPulversson

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Hebl von Heblowitz or flaming spandaus!

  • @bashkillszombies

    @bashkillszombies

    8 жыл бұрын

    Jack is going to a special level of hell where he will have fire arrows shot into his arse for eternity.

  • @bashkillszombies

    @bashkillszombies

    8 жыл бұрын

    That's as silly as throwing a good spear at your enemy and calling it a pilum and using a short sword instead!

  • @fakjbf3129
    @fakjbf31298 жыл бұрын

    Siege of Tyre, that time Alexander the Great turned an island into a peninsula

  • @DetectiveMekova

    @DetectiveMekova

    8 жыл бұрын

    YES! One of my favorite stories! He literally moved the Earth. Imagine the mythos and stories that must've spawned from that on the Persian side: "The Great Alexander conquered Tyre by commanding the Earth itself to form a bridge"

  • @Kinghassz

    @Kinghassz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Im originally from a village right next to Tyre

  • @arte0021

    @arte0021

    4 жыл бұрын

    How did he do it?

  • @moluccas3699

    @moluccas3699

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, how did he do it?

  • @saadalvi4320

    @saadalvi4320

    4 жыл бұрын

    A fellow Gondorian

  • @TN-xx4ih
    @TN-xx4ih8 жыл бұрын

    The sad feeling you get when a Lindybeige video ends

  • @bashkillszombies

    @bashkillszombies

    8 жыл бұрын

    I agree! Although this was a nice length for a change no more 3 minute bollocks! I could watch him for hours though! It's karmic - Stefan Molyneux and co release 3-4 2 hour videos a day, then Lloyd releases 30 minutes a week. :'(

  • @TN-xx4ih

    @TN-xx4ih

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yh. Hes so brilliant! 😄👌

  • @sarahblack6118

    @sarahblack6118

    5 жыл бұрын

    Don't remind me that it's inevitably coming.

  • @runertje550

    @runertje550

    3 жыл бұрын

    420th like, enjoy it.

  • @TN-xx4ih

    @TN-xx4ih

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@runertje550 thank you trooper

  • @ColonyChap
    @ColonyChap8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Lloyd, now if I get thrown into the bowels of history and inexplicably put in command of a large army, I'll be ready for the task at hand.

  • @Divaad95

    @Divaad95

    8 жыл бұрын

    or if anyone ever makes a competent medieval RTS/RPG

  • @ColonyChap

    @ColonyChap

    8 жыл бұрын

    Now that's just illogical.

  • @klobiforpresident2254

    @klobiforpresident2254

    6 жыл бұрын

    Divaad95 That's easy. Just take Rome I and add Spandaus. Or make it the MG-34 for extra brownie points*. *Not exchangeable for brownies, no refunds.

  • @xTheRealKestrelx

    @xTheRealKestrelx

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you have a dream you were a "Time Commander" ?

  • @louiscyfer6944

    @louiscyfer6944

    4 жыл бұрын

    not really. lindy is clueless about this stuff and he is just talking out of his ass. you might want to get your info from actual experts.

  • @davidredway5459
    @davidredway54598 жыл бұрын

    3,584 Spartans to change an oil lamp? Don't be ridiculous, Spartans will fight in the shade!

  • @pepperspray7386
    @pepperspray73868 жыл бұрын

    Could listen to classic sieges all day.

  • @siffonzebra4981

    @siffonzebra4981

    8 жыл бұрын

    I think i would even spend money for a audiobook by him on that topic. (as with multiple other topics :P)

  • @FridayBiology

    @FridayBiology

    8 жыл бұрын

    Agreed though, maybe points about small and large regional sieges :3

  • @RollerMihke

    @RollerMihke

    8 жыл бұрын

    I would gladly spend money for that.

  • @TurkishRepublicanX

    @TurkishRepublicanX

    7 жыл бұрын

    siege of constantinople lol

  • @RolfHartmann
    @RolfHartmann8 жыл бұрын

    Of course sieges never happened in Japan since they had katanas capable of cutting straight through stone walls ;-)

  • @Erectoralporicy

    @Erectoralporicy

    5 жыл бұрын

    ***paper walls

  • @Milamberinx

    @Milamberinx

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Japanese would simply have agreed that it would have been rude to overcome the walls.

  • @Leto_0

    @Leto_0

    5 жыл бұрын

    The real battles were taking place deep in the forests between ninjas with superpowers

  • @Macto5

    @Macto5

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or they just set the whole place on fire like Hirata Estate...

  • @yevheniishyshko7961

    @yevheniishyshko7961

    4 жыл бұрын

    Considering that very few of Japanese castles actually used stone as their primary ingridient, okay.

  • @jollygrapefruit786
    @jollygrapefruit7863 жыл бұрын

    Now im imagining a hilarious sitcom about two groups of people, one group building the ramp and the other building the wall, having a casual chat about it with each other while doing so.

  • @isaweesaw
    @isaweesaw8 жыл бұрын

    Spandau jokes on Lindybeige are like pommel jokes on Skallagrim

  • @MadBrainBox

    @MadBrainBox

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes.I wish people would be a little more creative with these things.

  • @BoarhideGaming

    @BoarhideGaming

    8 жыл бұрын

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's become a meme. Great.

  • @piwiator

    @piwiator

    8 жыл бұрын

    Just remove the barrel from your Spandau and throw it at your enemy to end him rightly

  • @minihjalte

    @minihjalte

    8 жыл бұрын

    Ah but that would be easier with a bren, as he stated in his video on why the british gun was superior.

  • @BoarhideGaming

    @BoarhideGaming

    8 жыл бұрын

    minihjalte Don't call me spandau fanboy, but that was just one of the many things Lindy got wrong yet preferred to call critics "fanboys". The MG-42 in fact had an extremely easy and quick way to change barrels, without ever touching the hot barrel. So no need for gloves, even

  • @Aegox
    @Aegox8 жыл бұрын

    You should have a topic on medieval or ancient Naval warfare.

  • @georgea.567

    @georgea.567

    8 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @tkdfighter8

    @tkdfighter8

    8 жыл бұрын

    I am very interested in that, too.

  • @the_rover1

    @the_rover1

    8 жыл бұрын

    +1

  • @NonDeUn

    @NonDeUn

    8 жыл бұрын

    Lots of bloody rowing about...

  • @alistairthompson8311

    @alistairthompson8311

    8 жыл бұрын

    There's an idea.

  • @alexanderleeart
    @alexanderleeart7 жыл бұрын

    you made all of this sound so straightforward, now I want to go conquer a city

  • @stephencrompton4352
    @stephencrompton43528 жыл бұрын

    can you do a video on Monty pythons search for the holy grail?

  • @michaeldepaor6844

    @michaeldepaor6844

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!

  • @headrockbeats

    @headrockbeats

    8 жыл бұрын

    I hope he does it in a helmet, because that makes him look exactly like Graham Chapman ^_^

  • @12345678900987659101

    @12345678900987659101

    8 жыл бұрын

    Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

  • @stephencrompton4352

    @stephencrompton4352

    8 жыл бұрын

    flyingkoopa45 haha

  • @jmalmsten

    @jmalmsten

    8 жыл бұрын

    +flyingkoopa45 not at all... they could be carried.

  • @notimportant4268
    @notimportant42688 жыл бұрын

    Some quick math... assume: wall is 100 foot long by 70 ft wide. Ramp is at a 30 degree angle, difficult to climb, but sufficient if you're a determined soldier with lots of other soldiers and a commanding officer behind you. The ramp's volume would be 424,000-ish cubic feet. 10k dudes each carrying 12 baskets of earth (one at a time..) is 120k baskets... how big is a basket? I don't know... but, 1 cubic foot of earth can weigh 70 lbs in a dry arid climate to 110 lbs if it rains a lot and there's lots of stones in it (english countryside?)... That's not too difficult for a soldier to carry... 12 of these in a 12 hour day=1 an hour? sure, no problem! Finish early, and there's the local peasantry to aggressively "netflix and chill" with... 424,000 cubic feet needed/120,000 cubic feet moved a day, is about 3.5 days till completion... make the ramp wider (because assume a dude with a shield and spear needs a 3 foot wide area in order to stagger up an incline... at 100 feet, you get 30ish dudes to a rank... wider ramp=longer ranks = more men fighting at once...) make the angle shallower, therefore longer to maintain a tighter, more impressive marching formation... and maybe the men don't want to carry quite so heavy baskets, so they don't fill them quite so full of dirt, or they "spill" some dirt carrying it over to dump it... add MORE dirt because a perfect wedge of dirt will collapse to the sides, and because walking all over the dirt during construction is going to compact it... and english rain might wash some away (that would be...exciting... to march on the next day?) you can probably see that it might take a week-ish to finish... unless they finish their load for the day, and then, the NEXT 10k dudes rotate onto dirt duty... maintain a continuous rotation and you've got yourself a battle-ready dirt ramp in a few days. Lloyd's estimates check out!

  • @zedex1226

    @zedex1226

    6 жыл бұрын

    The more time you spend building your ramp the hungrier, sicklier, and weaker the opponents you have to fight when you go over the top. Might as well build a big plush ramp in that case.

  • @phinhager6509

    @phinhager6509

    5 жыл бұрын

    They don't, because such a narrow earthen ramp won't be stable.

  • @Philly_Jump_Over_The_Fence

    @Philly_Jump_Over_The_Fence

    4 жыл бұрын

    Carrying baskets is a little inefficient. Lots of ropes, wheels and a railing system.

  • @Luculencia

    @Luculencia

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Philly_Jump_Over_The_Fence also don't forget they had horses and mules to pull carts full of earth.

  • @karthanok6859

    @karthanok6859

    4 жыл бұрын

    yesss MATHS!

  • @lomax343
    @lomax3438 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you emphasise the smallness of castle garrisons in the mediaeval period. As an example of this, there is a surviving record of the manpower strength of Criccieth Castle in Wales, circa 1285: the Constable had thirty men at his disposal - ten crossbowmen, an armourer, a carpenter, a mason, a smith, a chaplain and fifteen others. This appears to have been typical.

  • @FaenWszystkoZajete

    @FaenWszystkoZajete

    8 жыл бұрын

    I'm not an expert but I think so. We have to remember that making chain or other armor is not so easy.

  • @arytisaari

    @arytisaari

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Joshua normal smiths didn't make armour and weapons that was armourers job

  • @moukidelmar

    @moukidelmar

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Joshua the armorer not only made the armor but also made sure it fight right and was sometimes the garrisons quartermaster as well, dispensing armor and gear as needed. He would also make repairs, if the damage was severe enough, though generally, men were responsible for their own kit. Smiths were metal workers and oversaw the construction of caltrops, chains, iron banding, horse shoes and showing of horses and so on. It was their job to manufacture and repair anything made of metal. During the medieval period this was a fairly cast field, so there were specialist smiths to make armor, weapons, guns and so on. Basically, an armorer might be an armor smith, but they were not a blacksmith

  • @lomax343

    @lomax343

    8 жыл бұрын

    The above answers are broadly correct, though it is likely that the duties of such a small garrison were divided up according to what was practical and convenient, rather than by job title. It is also likely that one of the armourer's jobs was to function as a mediaeval fore-runner to a drill sergeant.

  • @socialist-strong
    @socialist-strong8 жыл бұрын

    I see people suggesting outrageous picks. Sure, these would have been hilarious, but by picking a subject that Lindy is enthralled by but hasn't talked about yet, you pave the way for further videos on this subject. Bravo!

  • @Hobbyrepubliken
    @Hobbyrepubliken8 жыл бұрын

    MOAR SIEGE TALK! (please)

  • @drakgrotta

    @drakgrotta

    8 жыл бұрын

    agree

  • @egrif

    @egrif

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hear hear!

  • @Zulikas69

    @Zulikas69

    8 жыл бұрын

    agree

  • @ironman8257

    @ironman8257

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yep,about siege machines

  • @MrKingoffire

    @MrKingoffire

    8 жыл бұрын

    agree

  • @morqwal
    @morqwal8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Lindybeige. No one talks about sieges. Everyone talks about battles. If you and other KZread aficionados talked about sieges, we viewers interested in writing, drawing, and representing the ancient and middle ages could do a better job. :)

  • @cpob2013
    @cpob20138 жыл бұрын

    well, off to go play total war

  • @the_rover1

    @the_rover1

    8 жыл бұрын

    Rome, medieval, japan or napoleon?

  • @MrAwesomemonster

    @MrAwesomemonster

    8 жыл бұрын

    Warhammer

  • @cpob2013

    @cpob2013

    8 жыл бұрын

    ZiSt1989 rome II actually

  • @TheAmbientWarrior

    @TheAmbientWarrior

    8 жыл бұрын

    Mount & Blade for me. Agger? No, everybody run up the same ladder! That's clearly the best strategy to take this massively fortified castle.

  • @caelodevorago608

    @caelodevorago608

    8 жыл бұрын

    Everyone! Stay down at the bottom of the ladder, shooting uselessly at the defenders while our leader runs up... Alone... With a spear

  • @owenmckee4053
    @owenmckee40538 жыл бұрын

    Instead of a ramp, why didn't the attackers just build a spandau?

  • @highestqualitypigiron

    @highestqualitypigiron

    8 жыл бұрын

    because the superior amazing craftsmanship is lost on them

  • @garedtuttle3649

    @garedtuttle3649

    8 жыл бұрын

    sounds like the spandau is a meme for lloyd, like pommels for skallagrim xD

  • @howdoilogin

    @howdoilogin

    8 жыл бұрын

    Not enough katanas to make one.

  • @Ankobi1

    @Ankobi1

    8 жыл бұрын

    Is this going to become the equivalent of Pommel Throwing for Skallagrim?

  • @stefanb6539

    @stefanb6539

    8 жыл бұрын

    They also could follow lindys example and just call everyone who disagrees with them fanboys. That would sure help a lot.

  • @kster809
    @kster8098 жыл бұрын

    I'm enjoying this trend of giving random advice at the end of your videos, Lloyd!

  • @SolusBatty

    @SolusBatty

    8 жыл бұрын

    Fav part :D

  • @necronsplayer
    @necronsplayer8 жыл бұрын

    Plataean siege defense: Just troll 'em the whole time.

  • @phantomjoker5
    @phantomjoker58 жыл бұрын

    I love videos on sieges

  • @saltofpetra-4502

    @saltofpetra-4502

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Can't wait for a part 2!

  • @theflyingfokker5249
    @theflyingfokker52494 жыл бұрын

    Its genuinely fascinating how much effort goes into beseriging a city, it's hard to imagine tens of thousands of people in one place doing such a thing as building the equipment, let alone the incredible amount of time it all takes.

  • @7000_Skeletons
    @7000_Skeletons8 жыл бұрын

    Noooo Jack what have you done!? That was our only chance to see the video on fire arrows and you blew it!

  • @tiaandeswardt7741
    @tiaandeswardt77418 жыл бұрын

    MG 42 could've won a siege singlehandedly.

  • @Smelly192

    @Smelly192

    8 жыл бұрын

    An African MG42 or a European one? And what if the attackers had katanas?

  • @Aegox

    @Aegox

    8 жыл бұрын

    ...

  • @zuto96

    @zuto96

    8 жыл бұрын

    maybe if u had enough ammo, but they would probably retreat anyway in fear of the MG-42's horrifying sound

  • @Altrantis

    @Altrantis

    8 жыл бұрын

    While this is meant as a silly thing, yes, it actually could have, actually.

  • @PrivateSlacker

    @PrivateSlacker

    8 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever actually used a spandau to break a medieval siege from men with stabby spears? Then you are not a sufficient expert to know.

  • @christiannipales9937
    @christiannipales99377 жыл бұрын

    what stands out most is your passion for all of what you talk about! that's what I keep coming back for! keep it coming!

  • @edi9892
    @edi98928 жыл бұрын

    Many overlook the problem of logistics in Sieges: Imagine that you besiege a city in the middle of the desert with 10 000 men that need food and water for maybe 1 year and your supply lines are getting ambushed all the time... Thats why many tried to assault castles immediatly. Doing this they either made it in before the defense is ready, or they lose a lot of mouths to feed and possibly get a better picture of the weak-spots of the fortifications. A famous example would be Carcassonne, where they sent their mercenaries first so that they wouldn't need to pay them later.

  • @GunFunZS

    @GunFunZS

    8 жыл бұрын

    would be?

  • @akumabito2008
    @akumabito20088 жыл бұрын

    Dumb question perhaps, but what exactly was the point of a castle as a defensive structure? In pop culture, when an attacking army wants to take an area - they go straight for the castle. Conquer the castle, conquer the surrounding land. Now if the defenders are stuck inside a castle, would it not make more sense to leave behind a small army just to make sure they remain contained, and then ignore the castle completely and just take the land?

  • @miffification

    @miffification

    8 жыл бұрын

    not dumb at all. always thought about it. perhaps its just a pain in the neck to keep an army there. and perhaps its better to take a castle rather than construct one. keep in mind that reinforcements can come and attack the siegers if they take too long. and then they will stand no chance.

  • @Smroadgi1

    @Smroadgi1

    8 жыл бұрын

    .

  • @pincopallino6765

    @pincopallino6765

    8 жыл бұрын

    And that's excatly what they did! Why should you spend time attacking a castle if you can easily pillage the sorrounding villages? Castle weren't usually sieged because: 1) most of the times they were strategically useless 2) hard to take if your army isn't that big 3) their garrison was too small to be a threat even if they sortie out 4) most of the things that you need (provisions, materials, animals ...) aren't in the castle.... they're in the sorrounding and unprotecded land!

  • @lasse5294

    @lasse5294

    8 жыл бұрын

    That is on of the problems with a Castle. Sun Zu wrote in the Art of War that in order to gain land you just ignore the castles and go around them. If the army in the castle want to defend their country they have to come out.

  • @pincopallino6765

    @pincopallino6765

    8 жыл бұрын

    So the role of the castle was to save the lifes of the people inside of it (usually only the lord and his soldiers) and it worked well because an enemy army usually doesn't want to waste time and would ignore you focusing on the land

  • @Kelberwitzi
    @Kelberwitzi8 жыл бұрын

    Would love a Lindybeige podcast.

  • @WoWroguefan
    @WoWroguefan8 жыл бұрын

    So what about the common depiction of a siege tower being rolled up to the wall, a drawbridge lowered and men stormed the wall? How common was this?

  • @lindybeige

    @lindybeige

    8 жыл бұрын

    If the tower were on an agger, then it wouldn't have to be very tall, and could compensate for any heightening of the wall.

  • @WoWroguefan

    @WoWroguefan

    8 жыл бұрын

    And how many siege towers were used without an agger, built as high as the wall?

  • @Phrikeares
    @Phrikeares8 жыл бұрын

    This is perfect, i really want to see more about Sieges!

  • @breadman2983
    @breadman29834 жыл бұрын

    "people dropping rocks on us and this is just awful" Mordhau in a nutshell

  • @TheSecondVersion
    @TheSecondVersion4 жыл бұрын

    "One man on a wall is worth 10 beneath it." - Tywin Lannister

  • @Rasgonras
    @Rasgonras8 жыл бұрын

    Wow, so much lindybeige. I love it!

  • @oceandark3044
    @oceandark30448 жыл бұрын

    This is what I love about history. All the epic sword clashes, arrows, ladders, et al, gets shown not just in films, but in songs dating back to the period. It seems so glorious. Then, you get to the history and what Lindy found to be most important about sieges was a competitive building exercise between a wall and an earthen ramp. The history of sieges is competitive infrastructure improvement! When you see construction along the highway, just thing... these men used to be warriors....

  • @DrSardonicus

    @DrSardonicus

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yeah ok totally agree however, you entirely miss the point of Hollywood film. I'll give you a hint; truth is not important. They're meant to be fanciful stories of grand tales. I'll gladly pay a stupid amount of money to watch the shear absurdism of Lord of the Rings epic sieges before any version of your bore fest where we watch men digging holes for ten years. Wow. Thrilling mate. Please show more your version of an interesting 2 hour movie on sieges and let's see how many people would pay to see men digging for years. Let's match it to the LotR and see who wins ey chump?

  • @oceandark3044

    @oceandark3044

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** Reign it back, man, I wasn't saying entertainment would be better if it was historically accurate. In fact, I said that even in the time it was current, entertainment didn't highlight historically accurate siege warfare. In fact, I think it's ironically hilarious how benign siege warfare must have been. "Bring your dirt, dump it on the hill, crack open a beer." Imagine the guy joining the army for fame, glory, and to see the world, and he ends up hauling dirt to a hill. I'm sure the "Thrilling, mate." comment is exactly what they were thinking.

  • @adamlee2550
    @adamlee25505 жыл бұрын

    That signing off had me laughing so hard, love your channel and I appreciate everything you do to illuminate the past!

  • @s.rolphsen174
    @s.rolphsen1748 жыл бұрын

    I would love a series on this sort of topic. A weekly video on ancient warfare, or something similar, would be nice.

  • @Lionbug
    @Lionbug8 жыл бұрын

    We here in Würzburg tell the tale of 30 knights holding Castle marienberg against 30.000 smallfolk

  • @keithlarsen7557

    @keithlarsen7557

    8 жыл бұрын

    30,000 smallfolk? What's a smallfolk?

  • @AZ25231

    @AZ25231

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Keith Larsen peasants

  • @Tairneanach

    @Tairneanach

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hobbits. There were plenty in medieval Germany.

  • @khorps4756

    @khorps4756

    8 жыл бұрын

    well yeah but so were there dwarves

  • @Lionbug

    @Lionbug

    8 жыл бұрын

    I can´t help but feel like I´m being ridiculed for my english ;-;

  • @weltgeist2604
    @weltgeist26048 жыл бұрын

    Really? I'm pretty sure the Goths brung some Spandau's when they sacked Rome, that got the wall down in no time, that's because it is perfect in every conceivable way.

  • @AlexanderTrefz

    @AlexanderTrefz

    8 жыл бұрын

    It was an outstanding weapon in it's field, as proven by the fact that it is still manufactured basically unchanged and used by multiple militaries across the world. It has a different purpose and is in fact an entirely different class of weapon than the Bren. So you can stop your underinformed snobbyness now.

  • @chaza1001

    @chaza1001

    8 жыл бұрын

    I bet they could have sacked it faster if they brought some Bren guns instead

  • @Aples888

    @Aples888

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes they used the spandau's as drills holding it a meter in front of the wall

  • @Jazzlur

    @Jazzlur

    8 жыл бұрын

    He was joking, so i'm pretty sure your the snobby one trying to impress everyone with your spandau knowledge.

  • @SordoBjorn

    @SordoBjorn

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Alexander Trefz. It's being used today, because it's a great weapon in a war where you already have the upper hand (like most wars western countries have fought since WWII) but if there's another world war, i think they'd be used for as long as the built up ammunition reserves would last, and then they'd soon swap over to something more efficient a similar example is the way military airplanes are designed: look at the wing shape of most pre-WWII fighters and you see a lot of straight lines, and angles... during the war the british traded it in for the now iconic leaf-shape of the spitfire, the germans did not. both sides went through a roughly similar number of well trained (as in prepared before the war started i.e. not in a hurry) pilots but because of their sticking to peace-time designs the germans seemed to suffer more from this than the british. soon after the war wing shapes quickly returned to their angular form just in time for their use on the new jet fighters.

  • @zeroqp
    @zeroqp8 жыл бұрын

    I looked up the story about the defense led by Lady Mary Bankes, and according to Wikipedia, her force did not hold on to the castle. Up to the point of the quote, it pretty much agreed with what you said: "In 1646 (the siege began in 1643), one of her officers, Colonel Pitman, betrayed her by leading a party of Parliamentarians into the castle via a sally gate. The Parliamentarians under the command of a Colonel Bingham reversed their jackets and were mistaken for Royalists. As a result she was forced to surrender the castle. However, because she showed such courage she was allowed to keep the keys of the castle, which are now held at Kingston Lacy near Wimborne Minster, Dorset. The castle was slighted the same year it was captured by the orders of the House of Commons."

  • @alexmetherell2277

    @alexmetherell2277

    8 жыл бұрын

    Slighted?

  • @zeroqp

    @zeroqp

    8 жыл бұрын

    Alex Metherell It means to raze or destroy a fort.

  • @chrisnorton4382

    @chrisnorton4382

    5 жыл бұрын

    Slighted means partially destroy a castle, either a wall or a tower, so it is no longer viable defensibly, not necessarily destroying the whole building. Parts could still be left inhabitable.

  • @6StacksOnFeastEUW
    @6StacksOnFeastEUW8 жыл бұрын

    Jack you should have picked topic Spandau vs Katana

  • @Aegox

    @Aegox

    8 жыл бұрын

    Goddamn it.

  • @Serjo777
    @Serjo7778 жыл бұрын

    Lindy we need more siege videos! Much, much more! This was incredibly interesting to listen to. It would also be awesome if they were much longer ^^

  • @conorbuckman340
    @conorbuckman3408 жыл бұрын

    See what would be the greatest siege weapon would simply be a large force of men throwing their pommels over the walls the end their enemies rightly, of course the defenders would return fire with a spandau in which case the attackers would have to take cover until the enemy used up all their ammunition as they had kicked out most of the civilians that had the ammunition attached to their belts..

  • @cynkel7661

    @cynkel7661

    8 жыл бұрын

    you are a tactical genius

  • @elperronimo

    @elperronimo

    8 жыл бұрын

    they would bring in tactical bushes to hide behind in case the defenders start firing the spandaus

  • @Mantis47

    @Mantis47

    8 жыл бұрын

    If only the attackers had a group of men armed with katanas they would've been able to parry every single bullet from the spandau with them.

  • @Lowco5

    @Lowco5

    8 жыл бұрын

    Well if you have katanas just cut trough the fortifications with them.

  • @BlinEd1
    @BlinEd18 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are actually my favourite!

  • @thetuna8099
    @thetuna80998 жыл бұрын

    I started watching this and just couldnt turn it off.. well done sir!

  • @ManDuderGuy
    @ManDuderGuy8 жыл бұрын

    I love the little bits of practical advice at the end ;)

  • @jeffsmusics
    @jeffsmusics8 жыл бұрын

    This was great, the way you present information is truly top notch.

  • @MrDawnRise
    @MrDawnRise8 жыл бұрын

    Lindybeige, appreciate all the content. Loving it!

  • @FunpocalypseMetal
    @FunpocalypseMetal8 жыл бұрын

    OMG! This guy is uploading daily now! It's great!

  • @lindybeige

    @lindybeige

    8 жыл бұрын

    This week I'm doing four videos, to make up for the two weeks recently that had only one.

  • @ChemoshKamos

    @ChemoshKamos

    8 жыл бұрын

    do a video on the siege of platea, please. it sounds interesting.

  • @ARandomUsernameForMe
    @ARandomUsernameForMe8 жыл бұрын

    Spandau is excellent in sieges

  • @kleinjahr
    @kleinjahr8 жыл бұрын

    Classic example of a ramp for attacking a fortress, Masada. Apparently the Romans used locals to build it, which does save on troop casualties. There was also a siege during the Gallic wars, where Caesar had built a circumvallation around a fortress. When he heard of another army of Gauls coming to relieve the fortress he built another around that. So it could be argued that the most important weapon of the legionaire was his shovel.

  • @jazeroth322
    @jazeroth3225 жыл бұрын

    Found the channel a few nights ago and I’m loving the deep dive into each topic. Merry Xmas good sir

  • @crunchyeater
    @crunchyeater8 жыл бұрын

    Please, Lloyd. A single Spandautana will take down any fortification.

  • @welshy4638

    @welshy4638

    8 жыл бұрын

    only works if dual wielded by a VIKING!!!

  • @GrimFaceHunter

    @GrimFaceHunter

    8 жыл бұрын

    But it has to be a berserker.

  • @SuperKittenator

    @SuperKittenator

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Blitz Krieg or his studded leather

  • @Correctrix

    @Correctrix

    8 жыл бұрын

    Quick quick... must add more dank memezzz... ...end that fortification rightly!

  • @Tengila

    @Tengila

    8 жыл бұрын

    This is getting far too dank, people. Get out of the sewer!

  • @paununs8719
    @paununs87198 жыл бұрын

    Span span span span... Lovely Span! Wonderful Span...!

  • @blackpancake5612
    @blackpancake56124 жыл бұрын

    11:50 I absolutely love these vocal effects and gestures. It makes the video come alive!

  • @UnixTehPwn
    @UnixTehPwn8 жыл бұрын

    YES! A new Lindybeige video! Love it, looking forward for more siege talk!

  • @Lidrien
    @Lidrien8 жыл бұрын

    I loved this video and I would like to request a part 2.

  • @francisbarnett
    @francisbarnett8 жыл бұрын

    Good effort on all the plentiful recent uploads.

  • @vitoc8454

    @vitoc8454

    8 жыл бұрын

    And the channel is now undergoing "Spandau-Gate" or "BrenGate" I think we've declared his version of "throw pommel and end him rightly"

  • @JariB.

    @JariB.

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Vito C Unscrew the pommel first willyou? Thén you can go ahead and end them rightly.

  • @JariB.

    @JariB.

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hammel Gammel Shhhh, don't tell them that... ;P

  • @vitoc8454

    @vitoc8454

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hammel Gammel A World War was nearly won due to the brutally effective strategies of Field Marshal Erwin Pommel

  • @timroberts4635
    @timroberts46354 жыл бұрын

    Your videos & Your knowledge are amazing & quite frankly AWESOME....!! Thank you for making them... I'll keep watching & giving thumbs up....

  • @Farseer1995
    @Farseer19958 жыл бұрын

    I do love a new video from Lindybeige, especially when it's about seiges. Made my day.

  • @iseeyou1312
    @iseeyou13128 жыл бұрын

    When the Romans besieged Carthage in 149BC, the Carthaginians decided that their main line of defence would be to use spandaus on their walls, and spent the previous two summers stockpiling spandau ammunition. When the Romans attacked, they were pinned down for several hours, however, the city quickly used up all their ammunition due to the rapid rate of fire. Miraculously, when the Romans picked themselves up from the dirt, not a single soldier had been hit, allowing them to easily take the city.

  • @Dontdoxme9268

    @Dontdoxme9268

    8 жыл бұрын

    these comments aren't funny.

  • @oswaldchai9865

    @oswaldchai9865

    8 жыл бұрын

    where did you get this from?

  • @maxsrbczv

    @maxsrbczv

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Oswald Chai lol

  • @conorbuckman340

    @conorbuckman340

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Oswald Chai his last video

  • @benderrodriquez

    @benderrodriquez

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Julian Blow That's because you blow.

  • @joshuastarkloff9602
    @joshuastarkloff96028 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on sieges during the age of gunpowder?

  • @seanmadson8524

    @seanmadson8524

    8 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, I imagine gunpowder changed the way sieges were performed even before the average soldier was armed with a gun, it would be interesting to hear about. In addition to that, it might also be interesting to hear about some unique siege engines that didn't see long or widespread use. Something along the lines of a crazy invention that didn't catch on, I assume there were just as many bizarre siege engines as there were bizarre personal weapons.

  • @joshuastarkloff9602

    @joshuastarkloff9602

    8 жыл бұрын

    Sean Madson That could also work.

  • @spleen5527

    @spleen5527

    8 жыл бұрын

    Cannons forced Armies to be bigger. No longer could you hold out in your castle/fortress. You had to meet the enemy on the field.

  • @seanmadson8524

    @seanmadson8524

    8 жыл бұрын

    King Steve While I understand and agree that the invention of cannons greatly reduced the safety of the old styles of castles/fortresses, there still were fortresses and bunkers of sorts that people used as cover, and buildings serving such a purpose still exist today. It might be interesting to see the trial-and-error evolution of the castle/fort into what in modern times would most likely be a bomb shelter, or at least it might be interesting to me.

  • @jonathan-hz4cc

    @jonathan-hz4cc

    8 жыл бұрын

    +King Steve Actually no, after cannons became common to use in sieges, forts were built differently, look up 'trace italienne'. It became harder for cannons to destroy the walls and forts themselves were armed with cannons.

  • @jordanjohnston1954
    @jordanjohnston19548 жыл бұрын

    The lack of editing in your videos is refreshing because that makes your videos more like improv and the knowledge you have on hand (and maybe a script). It works really well for you and your videos. I'm glad I found this channel.

  • @creepychris420
    @creepychris4204 жыл бұрын

    hahahaha the seige huts - quote 'everyone would go hup hurrrrr hup chup and the whole thing would move along' ahahahahahah nice sound effects man

  • @Scoob505
    @Scoob5058 жыл бұрын

    I love you Lindy. Can you do something on Irish Gallowglasses and Kerns next? Or the Fianna? Or something on the ancient Gaelic Irish warrior class.

  • @admiralgoodboy

    @admiralgoodboy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Haatchii but they suck

  • @hateoverlove1

    @hateoverlove1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Norman invasion of Ireland would be cool.

  • @RichCommander
    @RichCommander8 жыл бұрын

    Would like to see more of this

  • @oyblech8671
    @oyblech86714 жыл бұрын

    I'm going through the channel watching videos I failed to watch in the past. this was informative, entertaining, just fucking impressive (I see what you do in every video, Lloyd, and I love my only youtuber who doesn't jumpcut!), topped off with great advise. this is why I came and never left!

  • @bavettesAstartes
    @bavettesAstartes8 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy these longer videos.

  • @LordBloodpool
    @LordBloodpool8 жыл бұрын

    Didn't the Romans build Siege towers out of Spandaus?

  • @CybeargPlays
    @CybeargPlays8 жыл бұрын

    Hah! There is a pair of glasses hanging in the wall as art, a jab at the recent prank where some glasses were laid on the floor and mistaken for an art piece.... Nicely done!

  • @ElizaberthUndEugen

    @ElizaberthUndEugen

    8 жыл бұрын

    these hang these since forever...

  • @sheldonkeyes8258
    @sheldonkeyes82588 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this topic. It really puts things in perspective. Thank you Lindy!

  • @Player_Review
    @Player_Review8 жыл бұрын

    I'm excited about this vid. Thanks for the topic coverage.

  • @therustler30
    @therustler308 жыл бұрын

    Oh poor Lindybeige, he is under siege of all these Spandauer comments x)

  • @JariB.

    @JariB.

    8 жыл бұрын

    The fact that he adressed the people who were "fully pro-German Engineering" as 'fanboys' tells me he'll probably be alright. We could throw sarcastic comments back though...?

  • @therustler30

    @therustler30

    8 жыл бұрын

    I didn't see that video before I commented, you're right, that video wasn't great. ._.

  • @JariB.

    @JariB.

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** I am not going to judge it. It's not the era/period I'm specialized in. Let alone that I ever actually studied the weapons. Therefor I suppose I am not qualified to judge it. (Though I'll gladly throw back some sarcastic comments to those "fanboys" when they do say something even I find untrue.)

  • @Plankensen

    @Plankensen

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheRustler dont comment before watching. Makes for silly comments

  • @sugarfrosted2005
    @sugarfrosted20058 жыл бұрын

    "As always, don't feed chocolate to dogs." What? I mean it's true, but What?

  • @rjfaber1991

    @rjfaber1991

    8 жыл бұрын

    Haven't you noticed? The last couple of videos have all had a completely irrelevant piece of trivia at the end of it. I personally find them hilarious, but as humour is largely subjective, you're of course free to disagree.

  • @clarkliberty1110

    @clarkliberty1110

    8 жыл бұрын

    Chocolate is toxic to dogs,like arsenic to people.

  • @rjfaber1991

    @rjfaber1991

    8 жыл бұрын

    Clark Liberty To be honest, chocolate is toxic to humans as well. It's just that our livers have evolved to break it down very quickly, something dogs cannot do.

  • @skipfred

    @skipfred

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rjfaber1991 Which means it's nontoxic. At least in the sense that most people use that word.

  • @royfernley3153
    @royfernley31535 жыл бұрын

    Richard Holmes in his book, Redcoat, gives a very detailed account of siege etiquette, preparation and execution during the Napoleonic war.

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox138 жыл бұрын

    Well couched and concisely delivered. Good work!

  • @watdeneuk
    @watdeneuk8 жыл бұрын

    When i saw the castle i was like: Yey! this Brittish guy talking about old stuff again! I like old stuff.

  • @Witw420
    @Witw4208 жыл бұрын

    I'm not first, just sad and ready to die

  • @Jontman42

    @Jontman42

    8 жыл бұрын

    The patient, cut-flower sound of a man who is waiting to die.

  • @Akimb0

    @Akimb0

    8 жыл бұрын

    The third silence is his.

  • @nazzlan

    @nazzlan

    8 жыл бұрын

    same...

  • @18782.

    @18782.

    8 жыл бұрын

    why wait. lets all commit sudoku

  • @AvianSavara

    @AvianSavara

    8 жыл бұрын

    OR we could all commit sodomy. And make the zealots really angry. (it rhymes, therefore, I win)

  • @Abayas.
    @Abayas.4 жыл бұрын

    I, as many before me, have always been fascinated by medieval warfare, though my interest has only been 'in passing' until a short while ago. I just wanted to say that your videos have more or less opened up a whole new avenue for me, and I appreciate it. You give us so much information in passing that can be relatively difficult to learn elsewhere- not always because it is obscure, but rather that the collective 'we' had no idea that that it was even a thing or an option. It is rather hard to search for something you don't know existed. (I have become interested in writing a book and have had the most difficult time thinking up reasonably realistic wartime scenarios, but just watching your videos is flooding me with ideas.)

  • @Soy_Uz
    @Soy_Uz7 жыл бұрын

    i really appreciate your passion and attention to detail, great channel, thanks for the hours of clever entertainment

  • @rzq100
    @rzq1008 жыл бұрын

    What are you on about. My dog loves chocolate. He just had a bar of it. Come here spike! Show them how much you love chocolate. Spike! Spike! Spike? OH GOD NO!

  • @kingkwon8002

    @kingkwon8002

    8 жыл бұрын

    That was cringey.

  • @erikgranqvist3680
    @erikgranqvist36808 жыл бұрын

    Here in Sweden, we had massive armys in the medieval time. There were litterarly hundreds of thousand men in any one army. Albeit, they were very small and disguised themselves as big blokes, cramping in about ten thouseand men in one piece of shining armour.

  • @hazzmati

    @hazzmati

    8 жыл бұрын

    wrong

  • @keithlarsen7557

    @keithlarsen7557

    8 жыл бұрын

    Medieval man powered mech suites... FUND IT!

  • @RingxWorld

    @RingxWorld

    8 жыл бұрын

    Completely wrong

  • @keithlarsen7557

    @keithlarsen7557

    8 жыл бұрын

    People with no sense of humour...

  • @erikgranqvist3680

    @erikgranqvist3680

    8 жыл бұрын

    hazzmati what do you mean wrong? You cant prove it! The men were about 1" high, and weighed in at 50 lbs per man. That made a suit of armour just about the heaviest thing in the universe, when they cramped in those ten of thousands of men in one suit!

  • @C0m3TSw1tch
    @C0m3TSw1tch8 жыл бұрын

    I've been thinking and searching for the words for those screens and 'sheds' in the Medieval period. Thanks for sharing.

  • @polartechie
    @polartechie6 жыл бұрын

    Good topic, great video, FANTASTIC lindy

  • @Djlawson1000
    @Djlawson10008 жыл бұрын

    Hey Lindy, Ive always noticed that medieval forces were never the size of ancient armies, but m question is why? Why did the raw size of armies get so much smaller than what they used to be?

  • @erebus7306

    @erebus7306

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well the concept of empires faded after the Roman Empire for a long time. The Holy Roman Empire was more of a feudal system and thus the volunteering/conscription of large amounts of soldiers was now obsolete. Battles were fought with much smaller levies now from dukes. An important thing to note is that the idea of a standing army also was not present for a majority of feudal europe. Without a trained and experienced force you had a variety of poor to decent fighters as your main army, so large and long wars was nearly impossible to conduct. This use of feudal levies would continue for hundreds of years as battles did not need to be fought by so many men to win a war decisively.

  • @TomTomTomTom538

    @TomTomTomTom538

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zoltan Gyongyossy great post, I was also going to comment saying the feudal system put a stop to large armies

  • @CraftQueenJr

    @CraftQueenJr

    5 жыл бұрын

    Djlawson1000 aa

  • @scottdodge6979

    @scottdodge6979

    3 жыл бұрын

    When Rome fell the whole of Europe forgot how to do a ton of things. One of these things was quite possibly the art of drilling large armies. Getting tens of thousands of men to March and fight in unison is incredibly difficult. They're were some trained soldiers but they were generally mercenaries or a noble. Most fights were relatively small and generally took place in one spot.

  • @dylanbailey8464
    @dylanbailey84648 жыл бұрын

    Please make the random advice at the end of the video a staple of the channel!

  • @adm0iii

    @adm0iii

    8 жыл бұрын

    As always.

  • @Arelak
    @Arelak3 жыл бұрын

    I imagine just WATCHING one of these sieges in progress would have been one hell of a sight to see.

  • @mmaaccdzuu4636
    @mmaaccdzuu46368 жыл бұрын

    great vid Lindy!!!

  • @armvex
    @armvex8 жыл бұрын

    can spandau stop an uprising?

  • @Beriorn

    @Beriorn

    8 жыл бұрын

    No, but it can suppress it.

  • @TeaAndBullets

    @TeaAndBullets

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Beriorn If a Spandau is good for suppressing is it quiet?

  • @Beriorn

    @Beriorn

    8 жыл бұрын

    A Gebirgsjäger and his Sturmgewher A suppressor for a Spandau would likely be as big as the gun itself and would not do all that much. Also it'd be worn out quickly due to its rate of fire.

  • @TeaAndBullets

    @TeaAndBullets

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Beriorn What about a quick-change integrated suppressor and a firerate lowered to 3/4 the normal rate? Still formidable but more concealable.

  • @hart-of-gold

    @hart-of-gold

    8 жыл бұрын

    Such a suppressor on the suppressing weapon would suppress its ability to suppress. Being serious, the sound is the thing that was feared. If you can't hear the bullets, is someone firing at you?

  • @ImEvan
    @ImEvan8 жыл бұрын

    Hey Lloyd, is there any chance you could do a video on the battle of Thermopylae? you know, the one that's famous for the 300 spartans? It's probably my favorite story of all time and yet the details I've found about it are kinda all over the place. Deadliest Warrior seems to have skewed some opinions about the spartans as a whole and especially the 300.

  • @lindybeige

    @lindybeige

    8 жыл бұрын

    No immediate plans, but one day, I don't see why not. It could be combined with a review of 300.

  • @jiri4076

    @jiri4076

    8 жыл бұрын

    I would really like to watch Lloyd talking about the true story of that battle, good topic

  • @jiri4076

    @jiri4076

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Catch_Me_If_You_Can Cuz people don't know history

  • @arbhall7572

    @arbhall7572

    8 жыл бұрын

    were they really?

  • @SonofSethoitae

    @SonofSethoitae

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Priviledgy Shitlord (Rustler of Jimmies) I don't remember the Spartans doing much conquering. They were content to keep to their creepy militarized dystopia and oppress their slaves, not venturing beyond the Pelopenese

  • @GoneGamingNL
    @GoneGamingNL8 жыл бұрын

    I love these videos, Keep it up!

  • @voxkoshka
    @voxkoshka8 жыл бұрын

    This is a wonderful video! Precisely the sort I like seeing

  • @georgeharrold2986
    @georgeharrold29868 жыл бұрын

    Now you need to do a video comparing the demographics of the Ancient World and the Middle Ages, and explain why ancient armies were so much bigger. :)

  • @Moltak111

    @Moltak111

    8 жыл бұрын

    Ancient armies were much bigger since the whole of the army was united, during the middle ages each feudal lord would have his own army causing them to be much smaller.

  • @TheOhgodineedaname

    @TheOhgodineedaname

    8 жыл бұрын

    Where they? I believe that at Rome's peak around 0.4% of its inhabitants were soldiers, the English army at harfleur would sit closer to 0.6% of the post-plague English population.

  • @georgeharrold2986

    @georgeharrold2986

    8 жыл бұрын

    Well, as an anecdotal guide, I can list several ancient battles off the top of my head that included over 100,000 participants: Cannae, Raphia, Issus, Plataea, Salamis, and several naval battles in the First Punic War. My knowledge of Medieval history is relatively lacking, but I suspect you'd struggle to find similarly large battles there.

  • @cadarn1274

    @cadarn1274

    8 жыл бұрын

    I'm starting to wonder if a lot of it is just down to ridiculous exaggerations by ancient writers, particularly when they're on about very politically fragmented peoples such as Celtic or Germanic tribes

  • @rjfaber1991

    @rjfaber1991

    8 жыл бұрын

    Contrary to popular (particularly American) belief, bigger isn't always better. A soldier is actually a largely useless person in society, and could do much more to advance society if he was a farmer, a sailor, a merchant, a scholar, or whatever else. The only reason you'd ever raise a massive army is because you need to, not because you want to. As Lloyd mentioned, defending a castle or fortified city didn't take a lot of manpower, so why would you bother creating massive standing armies if a few peasant militia are sufficient to defend your territory?

  • @thorp.n8998
    @thorp.n89988 жыл бұрын

    I want this stuff in the next total war games :D

  • @MediumTim

    @MediumTim

    8 жыл бұрын

    Mount and blade would be pretty likely

  • @badgerbrowncoat5433

    @badgerbrowncoat5433

    8 жыл бұрын

    sadly, Thor - the newer crews at CA seem to have been taking TW in increasingly the opposite direction ( see my comment above re: arguing with another modder about TW's change that let ax-men chop down city gates- because... how many sieges... EVER ended that way? ) - on the other hand, will you grant the "300 rather than documentary style" of recent TW games has made them the right guys for the job of Total warhammer?

  • @castor3020

    @castor3020

    8 жыл бұрын

    unsure what you're getting at with the 300 comment since spartans were pretty realistic in Rome 2, best hoplite unit but very rigid and one-sided faction otherwise, in short: pretty realistic (voted as one of the worst factions) + how many sieges do you think happened in ancient times and how many were actually recorded? Not every town had a feet thick and iron plated gate.

  • @badgerbrowncoat5433

    @badgerbrowncoat5433

    8 жыл бұрын

    You really don't get what i mean? Spectacle vs Realism? Or you don't like to admit the Total war games have gotten less realistic? Don't even do weapons tests with the history channel anymore or have professors of history on the advisor staff. They are increasingly over the top each time. 300 is a movie from a comic that is about as historically accurate as Gladiator, Braveheart or the last few total wars. from a modder's point of view: TW's obsession with rock-sissors-paper to the point of assault troops shields LOOKING like the same shields but having different stats so they can't defend is a good example- spear units with an additional " fast movement" "spell like ability" on top of sprint - is another - rome 2 is FULL of choices of desired game mechanics over logic or reason - why the games continue to feel less simulation and more like " video games" - leading to their upcoming arena mutliplayer game. Sparta as a faction? NOT that realistic - but there wasn't that much to it either. ( you could check TW center, watch a documentary, or look at some of the mods to see ) How many sieges? That doesn't matter - in history or any use of method, you use the information you HAVE. And we have quite a bit of information about how difficult sieges were. Even the wooden 'motte and bailey' wooden forts of the normans were pretty effective. If you want to LEARN instead of blindly defend a game that people who've followed the series for two decades were unhappy about ( seeDivide et Imperia mod discussion for a bunch of other history nerds going off ) - what you might look up is Caesar's siege of Alesia - a simple wooden fort - and all the preparation he went through ( cue episode of battlefield detectives if you 'd rather watch than read ) - even then , even with the great seiege enginneers the romans had, that wasn't decided by a wall assault. Sorry - like it or not - wall assaults were EXTREMELY DIFFICULT , and most historians agree the creation of siegecraft - generally ascribed to the Assyrians, changed the world.

  • @patcrane7262
    @patcrane72623 жыл бұрын

    That picture of Lord Commander Jeor "I forbid you to die" Mormont in the background brings me much joy.

  • @samdibble7512
    @samdibble75128 жыл бұрын

    I'm loving the sound effects