Those rope drums sound SWEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!

@jakubsabosz2933

8 жыл бұрын

+oh! Jazz Duo/Ens. they sound like drums should sound unlike the ones that give that plastic stick sound... man how i hate that every single video with tags "marching snare drum" is about this shit :S

@1n0nlyAsa

7 жыл бұрын

oh! Jazz Duo/Ens. ya im black want to go to college for drumline snare for human jukebox snare line i wish theyed use thr red rope one

@arianaramirez4418

5 жыл бұрын

I liked the snare

@CrazyAssDrumma

4 жыл бұрын

nice and phat

@shadowballgaming351

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakubsabosz2933 no ewww can’t stand that low tone you can’t understand what’s being played crisp off the head

I want to be one of those guys that just gets to play around with like 10 snares

@Reuben_Lalnunzira

Жыл бұрын

same here

I like the first one best

@G-zero07

7 жыл бұрын

Detector Boy same

@og-crack4190

6 жыл бұрын

yep

@juanmenendez6559

5 жыл бұрын

Saltfisher 14 same here

@renedominguez6352

4 жыл бұрын

the most pleasing and basically a mini bass drum

@snipersnake777

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Beautiful area to play in. Really nice sounding drums that second rope drum sounded killer.

@batmanc

2 жыл бұрын

my pick, as well.

That first drum is battle ready :)

The second drum sounds so sick/ amazing

I’m very partial towards newer marching snares but i gotta admit, those rope drums sound amazing

Sweet. Love the rope drums. More pure sounding

Wonderful playing! That first drum was beautiful sounding!!

Can't believe the high pitch that 17 incher produced!

Cooperman rocked it! No wonder William "the Chief" Ludwig II said that was the only drum he would ever pay for!

the first drum wins. where's the fifes ?

@frankburdodrums8984

5 жыл бұрын

Yea really. Get your musket the red coats are coming.

@elansleazebaganno

5 жыл бұрын

High tension marching snares are the standard for most marching bands today, and is better for and settings. I prefer the sound of the last one, the Yahama.

@renedominguez6352

4 жыл бұрын

i agree that punch tho

@shadowballgaming351

3 жыл бұрын

@@elansleazebaganno right can’t stand a low pitched snare why because nobody can freaking understand what’s being played off the head

@kagtkalem7115

3 жыл бұрын

@@shadowballgaming351 high pitched ones are so shallow i don't like their sound. Low pitched one has a nice punch that motivates? you

Really cool comparison of different drums and sounds. I enjoyed that and your performance as well :-) Thanks. And a nice location to do that btw.

@Tom70s

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! My yard...

awesome! love the old school to new school snare demonstration

The bigger the drum, the better the sound. The ultra-high tension tabletops like the yamaha are grating. The first rope drum actually sounds like a snare. That is my preference.

@erraticboss168

6 жыл бұрын

Ryan Alexander Bloom agreed

@terrencewiggins6745

6 жыл бұрын

Ryan Alexander Bloom ya a drum set snare

@rhythmikj9761

6 жыл бұрын

Terrence Wiggins facts

@rhythmikj9761

6 жыл бұрын

Ryan Alexander Bloom nowadays that would be considered a floor Tom with snares on the bottom

@PARABLM_

5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Alexander Bloom Im only 15 never really been around a while so my fav is the YAMAHA sforzando but the rope drums sound awesome

The first one sounds the best, although both the old ones sound great. Who came up with the bad idea that marching snares should sound like Formica table tops?

@benjiboy9907

4 жыл бұрын

Sound projects better compared to the rope snares, plus it’s lighter, plus you can mount it easier, plus a million other things. I think modern snares sound DOPE.

@americanspirit8932

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjiboy9907 I disagree I think the snare drums are using today sound like table tops horrible far from a real snare sound plus with the cores and bands are playing today very simple compared to what we played in Old Skool days we played all the rudiments including Swiss movements for exposure to era points today in my opinion it doing warm-ups for the entire show nothing difficult about that although their execution because of the simplicity of what that playing Play song clean

@parkerswanbeck5465

3 жыл бұрын

@Xavier Stewart He means the modern pipe band snare drums that don’t sound like other snares at all.

@joedimarzo9891

3 жыл бұрын

@@americanspirit8932 first off. The drums are tuned so high for a reason. They are designed to project. Unfortunately the old fashioned drums simply cannot project over a 150+ horn ensemble across a football stadium. In addition, if you think modern drum corps writing is “simple” watch Santa Clara Vanguards 2019 show for about one or two minutes and get back to me when you’re done.

@mattshay9393

2 жыл бұрын

@@americanspirit8932 Thanks man I needed a laugh today

To be honest I didn't really like the tunning of the yamaha snare

@snareromie5295

7 жыл бұрын

Same

@panhead55

7 жыл бұрын

It's not the tuning. All these later style early 1990s and later (floaters) sound like garbage. The older more relax drums and heads always sounded better, but we're so use to super cranked new stuff that it has become the norm.

@ATS123

7 жыл бұрын

Idk it might be because I only know modern drum tuning

@RoyaltonDrummer922

7 жыл бұрын

Imo, modern marching snares sound super dumb when its just one playing but in a full line, they're buttery smooth

@mapetty

7 жыл бұрын

and not so good with 3 or 4 either, but much nicer with 8 or 9, IMHO

The second and third sound the best to me

That was fun. Nice playing. Hit the like button as soon as I heard that first 7. 🎉

Definitively the first one sounds best to me. I have the Andante Scottish snare drum and it sounds "dry" more or less like the Yamaha. Thanks for sharing

@MordasMakesStuff

Жыл бұрын

The Andante is a different type of snare drum actually, it's called a pipe snare drum and the snares under both heads give it a crackle type sound. The tech is really interesting

I have a replica west point snare that looks just like that first one. I use it as a bedside table, and it brings a great vibe to my room.

I love the second rope drums tuning over the first one

The yamaha isn’t tuned right

@timurphree5757

5 жыл бұрын

No u

@brookgangwayne

4 жыл бұрын

Christian Graham you right but as for the style I was personally introduced too this is wrong but as you said it’s a personal preference 💯 I respect that

@gavin_bigred

3 жыл бұрын

It needs to be a little higher. I know tuning is a preference but the point of kevlar marching heads is high tension and usually when they are that low its cause the person tuning it doesnt know what they are doing. Ive never heard a dci line or even college line with kevlars sound that low.

Great video. You have a great quality of sound btw.. Thanks for the vid

Some people say that the new drums ( 3:44 ) don't sound like "real" drums. After watching this video, I think it's safe to say that that It sounds the same as all the others, but with stronger, more tougher drum heads.

Hi, Tom! Your video inspired me to get my new favorite snare two months ago through Reverb, a beautiful 15 x 12 Slingerland in Blue Sparkle finish from 1965, and I cannot thank you enough for that. It is by far the best snare that I have ever played, and I have it tuned roughly halfway between the first two snares in your video. It still had the original resonant head on it when the drum arrived in the mail, but it now has an Evans UV1 batter, and a 300 Clear resonant. I use it both on its own when practicing rudiments, and as part of my drum set.

@Tom70s

6 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear about your new drum, Raymond. KZread has been an endless source of inspiration for me. I only picked up drum sticks again in 2011 after 30 years. I reconnected with old friends and organized Robbins' Rebels drum line, collected lots of drums, took up dirt bike riding, and I'm now back into guitar (and buying lots of those, too). All thanks to the fun stuff I see on KZread, and the ability to shop on eBay, Amazon and Reverb! lol

@davem9132

6 жыл бұрын

Nice collection of drums and playing..30 year break? wow how long did it take to get your chops back. did it feel like starting over again or did you snap back fairly quickly?

TDR 100 silver dot sounds great.

@vinngaming48

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@snap-off5383

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd pick that one out of the bunch as well. Best blend of clarity and power.

Very nice! You have amazing hands!!

@Tom70s

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Swaying away from the topic of how the drums sound to say: Nice rolls! They sound super good!

I have a 1958 slingerland 15 by 12 snare drum with real good for the snares sounds as good today as it did then one change I made was taking off the cats can head back then and put it in Remo heads on it fantastic drum beautiful again I had it since August of 1958 I paid $65 for it at that time I love it.

Your closing comments were funny

I must say, great drumming! I have 2 mid 70's TDR 'S so you know my favorite. Old dudes playing old drums. bc

That Cooperman is the business! It's got hair on its...............snares! I wish more outfits marched with rope snare drums and that they sounded like the Copperman!

@americanspirit8932

3 жыл бұрын

The West Point hellcats play on them and so do most Fife and Drum course today use old cooperman drums

@Somerandomdrummer1775

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Loyal Drums. They took over making rope drums for Cooperman

1:50 love this sound 😊 thanks

that sfz could’ve sounded better with different tuning, too much too head and not enough snare response

@seanmuller8774

4 жыл бұрын

Dill Pickle and personally I prefer the sound and feel using Remo Black max on top, given proper tuning as stated above; though those rope drums were amazing!

@maxwellmckinley637

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, head is great, but too much of it can start to be kinda uncomfortable.

@jerrygilmore2757

3 жыл бұрын

That is my opinion also.

@americanspirit8932

3 жыл бұрын

Opinions are like armpits everybody has at least two

Got you the 200th sub😛😉

The first one is very soothing sounding like a concert snare drum.

nice collection of drums.

The first one is just amazing

I like the 3rd one best

The first 3 sound great! The Yamaha sounds like a practice pad, which is the sound they go for these days. By the way nice demo!

Would this be a Side-by-side side drum comparison?

Dang nice chops

The first 2 drums sound like concert snares

@JC-zt6qv

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr? They sound really good but newer marching snares are the real marching snares. They project insanely well compared to the rope drums

why do I need to go to the doctor after playing

@theletteronehundred

7 жыл бұрын

It's a Viagra joke lolol

@shittybill3900

7 жыл бұрын

theletteronehundred a month later I finally got it

@harryrobbins10

6 жыл бұрын

theletteronehundred I don’t get it

@frankburdodrums8984

5 жыл бұрын

Yea really Is that supposed to be a joke but you can't tell because this guy does nothing but play snare and doesn't realize that people play the drums for very long periods of time besides doing chops on the snare all day long.

@MHol-ko9qv

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe because you didn't get the joke....just sayin'..........

thanks for that.

The first rope drum. Wow!

The silver one is the best

I kinda wanna buy the third and second drums but I can't find them :(

@Tom70s

6 жыл бұрын

www.cooperman.com/ for the rope drum. Slingerland TDR's and Ludwig Challengers can be found from time to time on eBay.

Cool!

The smaller rope drum sounded incredible

the good old days when snare drums actually sounded like snare drums

@MordasMakesStuff

Жыл бұрын

All the snare drums sound like snare drums, they're just for different paradigms of marching percussion. The drum corps style Yamaha Sforzando emphasizes crispness and articulation and is designed for fast, visceral parts. The older style rope drums are simply for power and projection that can be heard over gunfire. They all sound great imo

@orihiho2978

Жыл бұрын

listen here *BUB* you weren’t alive back then *PAL*

@benjaminkip9143

10 ай бұрын

The Yamaha doesn't sound like a snare drum to me imo 😂

@RCPercussion

Ай бұрын

​@benjaminkip9143 straight up sounds like a table

where can we get sheet music of that "little ditty" you played on each of the drums? (and very cool video, btw)

@Tom70s

7 жыл бұрын

Donka Drums on Facebook. It is from the Blue Stars Alumni Corps on-the-field warm-up. I don't know if he has posted any music of it.

@americanspirit8932

3 жыл бұрын

Real brutal metal drummers can watch what he's playing and then duplicate it that's how we would talk is it go without music

good drumming

@Tom70s

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hi Tom, Great stuff! Where did you get the "Larue" drum? Are they still manufactured. Really like the Cooperman as well, but something about that Larue really speaks to me....

@Tom70s

6 жыл бұрын

It's an eBay find from several years ago. It came from back East but not sure of its history.

Dudes got skills and good taste

I wanna see a battle of the first drum and the last drum

I'd recommend tuning the batter side a little bit higher on the yamaha

Great video! Thanks so much. Does the Yamaha drum have the two snare setup (one under batter head, one on the bottom)? Also, that 2nd last drum (the silver one you've had since 74') sounds amazing!

@Tom70s

2 жыл бұрын

The Yamaha did not have a two snare set-up.

Hello Tom. Can you tell for the first drum the model please ? Thanks

Any advice on tuning a high tension snare with a Mylar batter? Should I use a Mylar bottom or can I use a Kevlar bottom? I've seen people like Jeff Queen use a Mylar batter with Kevlar bottom.

@elijahfiest6288

7 жыл бұрын

i personally use kevlar batters with kevlar sides and those sound beautiful on marching drums, but i have had to use mylar sides with kevlar batters and while the sound quality isnt as good in my opinion, the method of tuning isnt any different, just dont tune as high.

Nice demo Dave. How are you doing? Great channel, will pass on. Take care, Mike Klassen

What is the rhythm you play at @2:50 called? Some kind of flams and doubles?

@kylegardner9240

7 жыл бұрын

Elkjær he says at the end its a little ditty written by some guy I don't know so

@logannewhouse2896

6 жыл бұрын

EpicMem you're everywhere lol

@CharlieGroh

6 жыл бұрын

Kevin Donka...you should google him...he's dope.

Hi Sr., excellent comparison, have you ever thought doing a tutorial about tuning a vintage marching snare?

how did you get that 10 lug to sound so good

the yamaha sfz looks so clean

Nice Connecticut Halftime!

@Tom70s

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

The first one all the way! That's the Drum.

Left hand👌👌👌

@1n0nlyAsa

7 жыл бұрын

Alex Bonahue check me out on KZread channel at aza Roberson my real name is Asa Roberson

@lukecarodrums

6 жыл бұрын

Asa Roberson ok

sick I play snare to

Nice , I think I would tune the bigger drum much lower to get the full affect of their depth

All the other drums sound AMAZING, but the sfz could be tuning way tighter. It just didnt sound like it wasn't tuned tight enough.

What is the name of the one before the high tension snare? Cause I know they all have names like ones a rope drum, ones a high tension snare I just don’t know what the other one is called

Wish the sound matched up to the playing. But good chops. I dig the the rope drums.

those rope drums must have been tuned by GOD so good

I play for 4 hours some days some days maybe only 2 or 1 if I'm busy. And the winner is number 3 The 1974 with the Ludwig dot head. The rest sound good but that's the best sound out of them all by far.

@TopDrumCorps

4 жыл бұрын

Frank Burdo Thankyou for your opinion

The modern marching snares can’t hold a candle to the old rope drums. The sound like a snare is supposed to sound.

nice

The rope drums sound the best!!! I've never understood how those kevlar drums caught on. They sound bad!!!!

@RCPercussion

Ай бұрын

They straight up sound like a table when cranked up. This is why I prefer mylar, which actually sounds like a snare drum even when cranked up

Is that second rhythm that you did for all the drums have a specific name?

Also after awhile I am getting drawn to the Rope drum

Was side by side drum supposed to be a pun? Because I love it!

Flam fun!

Correction those rope snares sound like concert snares but a very thin crisp tone

Cause I’m a marching boy I have to go with the Yamaha

Where can you buy the first one

Nothing beats the rope side drums.

wonderful tuning on all drums U kive the Slingerland and Cooperman the best but the hybrid heads do make a difference on video

Hi Tom! I am a bagpiper looking to use a drummer when playing for funerals. I want to achieve a deadened or muffled sound on the snare. We don't want to mess with his band drum, so we're looking for a drum that'll give us that sombre sound that you'd associate with funeral marches. Would a rope tension field drum or something like that be the way to go? Any suggestions? Thanks!

@Tom70s

7 жыл бұрын

Check eBay for rope tension drums. A lot of inexpensive new and used ones just might do the trick. For the most expensive option, Cooperman Rope Drum at Cooperman.com specifically makes a model for funeral use.

@robertflynn4478

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tom!

My school also uses Yamaha marching snare drum

@TopDrumCorps

4 жыл бұрын

This Kid here I don’t think anybody asked

I’m glad marching drums have changed the way they did

So I bought the first drum you used there, mine very deep and bellows lol silly question perhaps, can it be tuned? Lol

@Tom70s

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Tighten the leather ears evenly down as tight as you want.

What is the brand name of the 1st drum he plays?

What was that cadence you played on the first rope drum?

@Tom70s

7 жыл бұрын

Connecticut Halftime

como se llaman todos los tambores

You Sir rip! Nice playing and fascinating to hear the spectrum of sounds. Any idea what Scots military bands like the Black Watch played back in the 1800's?

@Tom70s

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks much! Not sure about historic bands, etc.. You might check out various Facebook groups related to those. Probably lots of experts there.

@DavidStewartLovegrove

4 жыл бұрын

Tom70s on my FB group 'Sunlit Scots' I have just posted some incredible photos from 1846 of Scots soldiers at Edinburgh Castle. Their is a drummer in 3 shots and you can clearly see his drum and sticks. Cheers

The concert snare ?

I like the 2nd snare Cooperman the best and this Man has clean chops.

@Tom70s

2 жыл бұрын

Thx!

Dont try what at home?

How much did the Yamaha 14in cost?