Should you buy a second Sonos speaker to pair in stereo?
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I must have dropped many hints throughout my channel to say that you need to listen to music in stereo. But in today's video, I will explain it with frequency response charts. Once and for all, I will convince you.
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0:00 Intro
0:29 Upfront Summary
2:00 What are frequency response charts?
3:43 Sonos Roam (Mono)
5:54 Sonos Roam (Stereo)
8:31 Sonos Move (Mono)
12:53 Sonos Move (Stereo)
15:00 Conclusion
Пікірлер: 127
Hi, I now purchased my second Sonos Move. I can attest to the dramatically increased sound stage and volume in the stereo pair. Quite impressive. I use these outside on my deck. Thank you for your very helpful reviews.
Awesome content, I purchased a pair of Roams to use as makeshift desk speakers (did not want to deal with any wires on my desk) and they sound great for their size for near field listening, volume output is more than enough and clarity and bass output greatly increase over a single speaker.
As of today I’m a proud owner of 2 Sonos Moves 😊
@PatrickStar-vx7gm
Жыл бұрын
As of today I’m the proud owner of 2 Sonos one SL’s 😊
@RecenterTheRight
Ай бұрын
How did it go?
Peter, so glad you did this test. I have a Roam that I use in my garage workshop and was looking for more fidelity. Using my Oticon More hearing aids in music mode has revitalized my desire for bigger sound. So I bought a Move and it is what you say versus the Roam. So I bought a second one and will put it in Stereo mode today when it comes.
I absolutely love my Moves paired in stereo! Powerful and clear sound with great soundstage. Indeed few people know how beast they are in pair. I just bought a Five and I was disappointed compared to the stereo Move pair. I agree that a "lower model" pair is always better than a "better model" solo.
@Beer_Dad1975
Жыл бұрын
Currently only have 1 Move, but really love the sound it has, and it's portable enough to to be practical. Also have a Roam, which is great for indoor use (my wife is using it as a speaker for her PC) We've just completed a pool install, so I think I'll buy another Move to add for stereo. Advantage is, if I get too drunk and forget to bring them in, and it rains - it won't matter, the next day they will still be fine.
Peter your content is great as always!
Wow your video production quality has really improved! Great work!
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan! Thanks for dropping by and that lovely comment! I really try and this is really a hobby of mine to make videos look better!
Thank you so much for providing this video. I learned so much!
I have 2 Roams for the office, and I use my 2 Moves for my bedroom. For BBQs and pool parties, I take all 4 speakers and attach them to my Verizon hotspot when I use them outside the home. Good times.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
That is so cool! Sound "ALL AROUND YOU".
@JSpangler
2 жыл бұрын
@@PeterPee thanks for doing the measurements on the paired speakers. Really quantified what I was hearing. Was surprised the paired Moves went over 100db.
New to your channel and subbed! Bought arc + sub g3. Watched almost all your vids for best setup. You need more subs! Great work
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! And very kind comments!
Great presentation of objective data! Excellent!
Brilliant quality videos backed by science. Thank you for such amazing content.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that darling comment!
This is exactly the video I was looking for, decided to get another roam to stereo pair for outdoor speakers vs the Move.. great videos as always!
@applemanuk
Жыл бұрын
Be aware that you can only stereo the 2 Roam's over Wi-FI and not Bluetooth.
@thesamwilder
Жыл бұрын
@@applemanuk appreciate it! I actually did end up ordering a refurbished Move from Sonos as a dedicated outdoor speaker. Kept the roams as a waterproof speaker for each bathroom
Thanks for the great comparison! I was debating between a Move and a pair of Roams as they’re roughly the same price. I think the fuller bass of the Move has me leaning that way.
@metaitachi
2 жыл бұрын
The roam is great and convenient but the move definitely has a fuller sound and is superior in every case that you don’t need the portability of the roam
Great content as always Peter! I just got a second Roam so I;m interested to try this out.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! Really, the sound from a stereo setup is so much better.
Love your work, Peter! Totally hooked to your reviews 😅 Got a question... If you have to choose purely in sound quality what would be your choice between 2 Ones + sub mini or 2 Moves. Must be the only comparison I haven't seen... Thx!
Peter. First, thanks a bunch for all your content! I watch all your vids! Great stuff! Question. I have 2 roams in stereo, but have also configured them grouped in mono x2. I think the stereo config sounds cleaner and more accurate being true L/R, but would loved to have seen your test showing how the graph would look comparing the roams in stereo vs x2 in mono. I believe your test was just one roam in mono. Is that correct?
With regards to volume level, a 3 dB increase is twice the sound pressure level, but human ears respond to volume logarithmically, so we actually perceive a 10 dB increase as being a doubling of volume.
Great video. So apart from the volume, would 2 one's be better or worse sound quality wise than one move?
This video sold me on a second move, and the purchase was worth every penny.
I bought a Roam to replace a Flip3 for the bathroom for my wife. Nearly every time she went to use it, it was dead. Fast-forward had to pick up a pair of the Moves since they're on such a good sale. I have one in the kitchen and one in tge bathroom and I can "Move" to outside. They sound awesome as a stereo pair, Soundstage is wide, but every time I pair th I have to unpaired the when I put them back. I also tried them as separates and in stereo in my livingroom grouped to my Arc and gen3. They cut out when in stereo, they are better as separates grouped. My other two TVs I have surrounds but my livingroom isn't really configured in a way for rears. I may pick up some wall hangers for inside and out.
Peter, excellent analysis and commentary as always. I was wondering if is your intention to demonstrate the different of buying two speakers to go stereo like you did for the Sonos fives? Given the relative price difference between the five and the move, it would be interesting to understand the sound benefits, noting the hard wired vs wireless options. Many thanks
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I did that before for the fives. You remember that video! Actually some of the older videos are turning up less on searches so when a new to my channel viewer comes in, they don’t see the old videos.
Just ordered a 2nd Move for stereo sound at the pool. And they are on sale now!
thank you so much! just ordered the second move!
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Woah! Nice! Surely you’re going to enjoy the stereo effect!
Great video thank you.
Kudos on another insightful informative video Peter! Could you do a binaural sound demo of the moves in mono vs stereo please? If there is already a vid like this please send me the link.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t gotten round to doing it. Let me try to get that video in.
@RajGheevarghese
2 жыл бұрын
@@PeterPee Thank you! Thats really awesome.
Thanks Pete just spent $200 AUD on a brand new 2nd hand roam just to get the experience. It's a love hate relationship that I have with Sonos
Peter - i'm debating whether I should buy a second Move for my living room and have it in stereo, buying a Five/Era 300 and take my current Move to my bedroom... what do you think?
Hi Peter, I am revisiting this after getting my second roam and second move. I have to agreed with you that doubling up makes a huge difference. A single roam can be underwhelming in a large space or outside, but two of them are significantly better. I have a question now, if I have all 4 set up, would you recommend creating 2 stereo pairs or just grouping all 4 as monos. Have you ever done a sound test on two speakers, both mono vs stereo pair?
Great video
HI there, I have just purchased Sonos move a couple of hours ago, was wondering how to play iTunes music (not Apple Music or other streaming music platforms) on sonos move via Wi-Fi?
Just added another play5 and made a pair… just amazing even the stereo image is very good. Have them vertical with the tweeters on the inside. True play make it even better. In did measurements and they are +/-5db between 35-16000hz (with true play) without the bass is raised. For 1000 euro’s difficult to beat.
@dansharkey5218
2 жыл бұрын
Patrick what is the best sound out of the play5’s vertical or horizontal or does it not make a difference?
@patrickmeylemans9627
2 жыл бұрын
@@dansharkey5218 I can’t say, the mounts I have only work in vertical position. But still impressed with the sound and the image they project. I can assure you that I know what good sound is like in my room, have a very revealing system besides the play5’s. The tweeters in the middle, under the logo’s should produce a better stereo image in stead of the tweeters on the outsides…
@dansharkey5218
2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmeylemans9627 Thanks Patrick
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Thanks!
Hi there I have 2 sonos one stereo paired, and I wonder if it should be better to seprate the two in 2 différent rooms or do I let it be as it’s now, aka the stereo pairing? thanks all!!!!!
Nice presentation! Can you pair up in stereo using bluetooth mode?🤔
I just bought 2 Moves and a One…thank you for making this video. Keep up the great work. I wanted to pair the Moves as rear speakers for surround sound…and I don’t think it’s possible :( I know you can do this with the Ones…any suggestion on how I can use the Moves as rears for surround sound?
@Atlantis284
Жыл бұрын
Yes you can pair the moves, did you watch the video?
I confirm, two Moves paired in Stereo is pure pleasure.
@donmckinney4091
2 жыл бұрын
Can these be used for a tv program? I got the Gen2 soundbar and was thinking about adding these for tv programs.
@alexis.x
2 жыл бұрын
@@donmckinney4091 Only in bluetooth mode with your TV or thru an Apple TV on AirPlay 2 in Wifi / Dunno with the Soundbar, I think though you can't have them used as back speakers.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can’t use the moves (or roams) as surround.
@donmckinney4091
2 жыл бұрын
@@PeterPee -Thanks that's what I thought but wanted to be sure before I bought them.
@javporin
Жыл бұрын
if my intention is to use in living room for music only, is it better to buy another move (i already have one), or leave the move for outdoors and purchase two sonos ones with a sub? I'd love to have Stereo separation
I wish 2 Moves could be paired outside of wifi range using Bluetooth, hopefully with Move Gen 2 as that would be an absolute game changer
Interesting, Next step (or wish for another video): Sure, one Five sounds better than a Move, but how about a comparison of both as stereo pairs? Perhaps the eventual advantages in sound of the Fives are offset by the flexibility of the Move as a pair and are the better deal?
@TrickMazterDK
2 жыл бұрын
I suggested Peter to do that in his last video and then he made this one, so fingers crossed
@mattgreenaway4091
2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to figure this out myself as in the market for a pair. Move is due a refresh though only Bluetooth 4.0 and can’t be connected to Bluetooth and wifi at the same time like the roam can
Would welcome the mono v stereo pair performance for the other speakers if you make a video. Many thanks 🙏🏻
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought it could be quite a fun thing to do for all the speakers. :)
Thanks 👍
Is better sound with 1 sonos five or just a pair of sonos move?
Can I pair jbl flip6 with Ray soundbar?
Great video. What eq settings do you like to run on your Move?
@PeterPee
Жыл бұрын
I have been running my Moves on flat. But now I don't have a move anymore. I can't afford to keep them cos I rarely move my speakers!
I bought 2x Roam 2 years ago. They sound Greta whe set up but are a complete pita when you take them on hols or elsewhere away from your own wifi. Factory reset and set up again. Most frustrating
hey peter i have a question, i own a pair of sonos five in my living room, is it benificial to add a pair of sonos ones to it for filling up the space? i can´t find any info online about this setup.
@PeterPee
Жыл бұрын
No not really. Unless your living room is REALLY big and the sound from the Fives can't reach the other end. Else little benefits in doing so.
Thank you! Very informative! I have a simpler question. After you pair two move for stereo. How can you quickly tell which one is left and which one is right after you move them to another room?
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Good question, I am using the Roam in different colors so that's easy but an eye sore to have unmatched colors. If you have both in the same color, short of labelling them with a sticker or some markers, you can't tell quickly. But in a relatively quick manner, just power off one of them and see which one is left identified in the app?
@ferrishappenings7971
2 жыл бұрын
@@PeterPee I have thought about this a little more. Obviously I have not paired two moves yet. Just purchased one and am enjoying the quality sound. Nevertheless, if there is a balance slider in the app when you stereo pair them that could be the answer. Just slide it to left or right and listen. Is there a slider?
@cmp1784
Жыл бұрын
@@ferrishappenings7971 yes there is a slider
@Davey_01
Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, can you pair 2 speakers using bluetooth yet? Even in party mode or stereo? That would be the deciding factor for me as they are portable.. love your content as always pal 👍🏻
Does it make a difference how far apart you put the stereo pair? Is there an ideal distance?
@PeterPee
Жыл бұрын
Ideally, the distance between the two speakers should be the same as the distance between you and the speakers. Equilateral triangle.
I have 1 move and want to add a second move for outside by the pool. Am I able to pair them for stereo?
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You can pair them in stereo.
HI PETE ❤ YOUR VIDEOS. WOULD LOVE TO SEE SONOS MOVE ARC AND SUB VIDEO. BEING ABLE TO THEN TAKE THE MOVE ON THE GO & USE AS A STERO / SURROUND SPEAKER…. What are your thoughts???
@PeterPee
Жыл бұрын
The Moves cannot be used as surround speakers in soundbar setup. And also cannot pair a sub.
Let me help you on this one Peter. Yes buy the other one lol. Yes the sonos move sounds better IMO to the sonos 1. I sold my 1's to my buddy. I have a set of 5's now. But the move i keep in my office sounds great and this damn Peter is gonna make me buy another one to complete the pair lol.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
You can use me as an excuse. But you know you already wanted it. Haha. Go for it David!
Hi Peter, can you pair a Sonos one gen two with a Sonos SL speaker in stereo mode?
@PeterPee
Жыл бұрын
Yes you can.
I have the 1st Gen Beam, Gen 3 Sub, and 2 Ikea bookshelf speakers in my office. I had two Sonos Roams I added for fun and it really works filling the room with even more sound. Unfortunately, the Sonos app doesn't keep the extra Roams paired everytime turn on the TV and I have to select it everytime. The extra Roams do not mute when I mute the TV and I have to pause the TV to mute the extra paired Roams. I wish Sonos would upgrade the app to keep the paired Roams always if selected. Mute all speakers grouped together from TV remote. I also wish the Sonos app would allow you to mix and match speakers and placement as needed to turn my 1st Gen Roam into a 7.2.4. system.
Great content, and I appreciate the science. I’m curious what the graph looks like pairing a Move with a Roam…..compared to the other graphs in this video. A Move/Roam combination is more affordable than two Moves and probably sounds a little richer than two Roams.
@utlonghrn78
Жыл бұрын
I have been toying around with this same combo. Curious if turning up the bass and decreasing treble on Move would give bigger bass response.
Peter some folks are saying you can use your phone as a wireless hotspot to pair two Moves, while you are away from your home wifi, IE camping etc. Have you tried this, since they can’t be paired via Bluetooth?
@gaycha6589
24 күн бұрын
Yes. I tries and failed. It’s a pita.
Can you pair two move using bluetooth? Thank you
@gaycha6589
24 күн бұрын
No
I have 1 Roam & 1 One SL, any possibility to pair these 2 in stereo?
@mattgreenaway4091
2 жыл бұрын
Sonosequencer
@steveleung6271
2 жыл бұрын
@@mattgreenaway4091 Matt, what do you mean? is Sonossequencer a software that can group the Roam and One SL to form a stereo pair?
@steveleung6271
2 жыл бұрын
I checked it online. It appears to be an iOS apk. Is there any equivalent for Android?
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm. I need to check this sonosequencer out. Interesting idea.
Ok Peter. I have one play 5(Gen 2), one roam and one move. Now what do I do? Which one do I match, in your experience?
@johntucker7075
2 жыл бұрын
And I sure wish I cud add a sub to the move….
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Yep unfortunately Sonos doesn’t allow a sub to be paired with the moves. Or roams. If you are thinking of getting another speaker, I’d strongly recommend getting another used play:5g2. The sound from that setup is amazing.
@johntucker7075
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter for regularly replying to comments and questions.
Can you pair Roam with Move?
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
No, you can't.
can you connect the speakers without wifi, only with bluetooth, outdoors?
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. For the roam and move you can use Bluetooth.
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Oh wait! To be clear if you meant to connect in stereo, no. You can’t connect the roams and moves in stereo over Bluetooth. It needs to be in wifi to be in stereo pair.
@stefangeernaert1970
2 жыл бұрын
@@PeterPee That’s sad 😢
@joshuajameslord
2 жыл бұрын
I recently just bought the move and contemplated getting a second one for stereo pair using Bluetooth. I'm so glad I saw this comment and saved myself some cash. Thanks for the heads up Peter Pee 👍
@deanwilliford2453
Жыл бұрын
What if you use the ampme app. Can you then pair in Bluetooth for stereo?
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@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thanks!
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I think my wife would divorce me if I bought a second Move 🤣
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
Hide it when she’s around. It’s move-able.
@paulhinds8868
2 жыл бұрын
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@glennmarclee
Жыл бұрын
Win win brother.... 🤭
@gaycha6589
24 күн бұрын
Will you miss her?
Waste of time….
Peter, excellent analysis and commentary. I was wondering if is your intention to demonstrate the different of buying two speakers to go stereo like you did for the Sonos fives? Given the relative price difference between the five and the move, it would be interesting to understand the sound benefits, noting the hard wired vs wireless options. Many thanks
@PeterPee
2 жыл бұрын
For the fives, I have seldom used the wired input through the 3.5mm switch. It’s just not different enough to justify another cable running from a player.