Should transgender women be excluded because of their physical advantage or is that UNFAIR?
Feminist groups have expressed shock after it was revealed that a Parkrun women’s record is still held by trans-athlete and criminal, Lauren Jeska.
But should transgender women be excluded because of their physical advantage or are they being treated unfairly?
Former Olympic swimmer Sharron Davies believes the gender category you perform in, should be based on the biological reality of your gender, Rebecca Reid says trans people should be able to compete in non-contact sports.
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The fact this is even up for a valid discussion is a joke in itself.
@randomuser4201
Жыл бұрын
It's whats GB news do though, keep you lot in constant fear, whilst the tories rob you blind.
@nhlanhladube6729
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 🙄
@MelodyBee-yl7we
Жыл бұрын
MISOGYNISTIC AND SEXIST
@anitachiquita70
Жыл бұрын
absolutely
Yes they should be excluded and that is not unfair. Including them is what is unfair.
@randomuser4201
Жыл бұрын
Huh? 😂
@Fedorevsky
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you disagree or not?
Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings Feelings………."The fact that society believes a man who says he's a woman, instead of a woman who says he’s not, is proof that society knows exactly who is the man and who is the woman."
@katherine_dogsRlife
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!!!!!!
They’re not being excluded. They can compete as the bio-men that they are.
@GI4JYT
Жыл бұрын
No, transgender men are men who want to, for whatever reason, or believe themselves be in the wrong body and want to live life as women. Sure they may well be other ulterior motives with some people, but this could well be that they are not 'trans' in the first place and that is a debate in itself.
@phoenixkali
Жыл бұрын
They can have their own athletics their own toilets and locker rooms and gyms. That will weed out alot of AGMs just doing it for clout and those seeking viable excuse to subjugate women.
@phoenixkali
Жыл бұрын
They can have their own athletics their own toilets and locker rooms and gyms. That will weed out alot of AGMs just doing it for clout and those seeking viable excuse to subjugate women.
@SeeLasSee
Жыл бұрын
@@phoenixkali yes. But they must set up their teams and leagues themselves to create buy in, a sense of ownership. Otherwise they’ll rejects the special categories. Many will either way.
@MelodyBee-yl7we
Жыл бұрын
@@GI4JYT autogynephilia It's a perverted fetish being normalised in society! I do NOT consent to playing a part in his fantasy! It's disgusting!
Sharon Davis is a hero to all women fighting for what is truly right.. ❤️
@nathanfurnival8724
Жыл бұрын
Okay bigot
@evieshore3270
Жыл бұрын
@@nathanfurnival8724 🤡
@lajade12
Жыл бұрын
@@nathanfurnival8724 try educating yourself and learn what the words you are using mean, you may then realise just how stupid your sentence sounds.. freedom of speech is for everyone not just people that like to name call like you! It’s a shame that stupidity is something you probably will never grow out of 🤣🤣🤣
@ViN-kr3ri
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, and of course Riley Gaines in the US who has been mercilessly attacked. These are very brave people to speak out against the might of the woke establishment.
@philld1201
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@@nathanfurnival8724 🤡🤡
Cant believe this question even needs to be asked..
@piglex1
Жыл бұрын
because it's low grade bottom dweller hackneyed clickbait GB news.They fired their only decent TV journalist in deference to OFCOM.
@enigma_-_79
Жыл бұрын
But since it has been asked, what is your answer?
@irenepeter-lyons350
Жыл бұрын
@@enigma_-_79 Understanding sub text is important.
@enigma_-_79
Жыл бұрын
@@irenepeter-lyons350 It depends on who is speaking.
@enigma_-_79
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@Dildo Insaney Ok.
they're not excluded, they can join the mens teams
@soothsayer1964
Жыл бұрын
They're losers.
@annem9195
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! But that’s not inclusive enough 😩
@robertjones3613
Жыл бұрын
Ah, but they wouldn't be good enough.
@randomuser4201
Жыл бұрын
You lot still wont be happy at that
@Taylor23890
Жыл бұрын
@@randomuser4201moan , moan , moan . Do you need a tissue ?
Having an advantage in size and strength IS what is unfair. We must get this sick twisted world back to common sense and normality. It is no different than placing able bodied athletes up against disabled athletes.
@randomuser4201
Жыл бұрын
Size and strength is "sick and twisted"? Tell us what you really think.
@alien777
Жыл бұрын
Women are not disablelt. What a sexist mysagonistic thought of you
@amandabrown3936
Жыл бұрын
@@randomuser4201lol that's obviously not what they're saying
@Boyzee355
Жыл бұрын
Well said
i'm surprised we even having the debate on this .... its UNfair on REAL WOMEN....!!!
@BadDriversOz
Жыл бұрын
BUT But but trans 'women' are 'real' 'women'...
@lovenikolatesla846
Жыл бұрын
And the rainbow below to Zippy and George 😂 Chase the whole world with a rainbow or not.
@enigma_-_79
Жыл бұрын
@@BadDriversOz That makes me laugh loudly every single time. 😂👍🏻
@JohnSmith-ux3tt
Жыл бұрын
For some reason, the modern Left hate real women. It's the most intriguing thing I have ever seen.
@oldshiny3012
Жыл бұрын
@@lovenikolatesla846 Dam Zippy and George where are those fun guys now, prob banned for been too risky
how is this even a debate - unbelievable!!!
So she’s admitting they have an unfair advantage by saying they should not be competing against females in contact sports but then still says they should be allowed to compete in the same category as females in other sports events! She must know she’s not making sense.
100% common sense from Sharon. End of 👌🏻
Allowing them TO compete IS unfair!
If someone is transgender and don't want family to know, they need therapy. This is ridiculous.
@douglasmurphy3794
Жыл бұрын
or a cult deprogrammer seein as they been groomed and brainwashed
@rensha8635
Жыл бұрын
Dont want family to know but demands complete affirmation in the women’s race. Can’t make it up.
@LaLeMay
Жыл бұрын
You would think the parents might notice!
Love sharron Davis well said 👏😍❤️
Why are a few men’s feelings more important than girls having woman to look up to and medals for them to strive for? Even if it’s just the park, no woman’s medals and awards should be going to men
@DrJams
Жыл бұрын
Why are feminists upset? That didn't like male only spaces
Echoing what many have said…. I can’t believe we’re giving time and energy to this debate. It’s nonsense. No debate. Straight answer. Biological male and female category’s. Job done.
Why is it that the default is for inclusion at all costs and then women are automatically on the back foot raising an counter-argument? Why does society think so little of women that their rights are not prioritised? Trans people can still compete if they want but just not at the expense of women’s spaces and achievements.
Sharron is a brilliant advocate for women's sports. No men in women's sport taking away women & girls opportunities. #SaveWomensSports
People will stop watching sport if this is the case. 😮
@JohnSmith-ux3tt
Жыл бұрын
They will stop watching "women's"(sic) sport if the administrators don't do something about it, and soon.
They should certainly be excluded because of physical advantage, but it's not even about that. They should stay in their real categories on principle... Sex based rights, sex categories in sport. Gender rubbish is pseudoscience at best.
It is insulting to our intelligence that this question is even being posed for valid debate!
How come none of us had heard that this Tyranny had stabbed the head of Athletics multiple times but we hear about Dylan Mulvaney, The trans cyclist, the trabs swimmer etc etc
@CT-uv8os
Жыл бұрын
Or the trans in America that murdered 6 people in a school 3 of them 9 year olds?
@tictoc3148
Жыл бұрын
Must admit, it's the first time I've heard about it,
This shouldn't even be discussed, the fact we are discussing it proves society has lost its way. All the damage is being done by the use of the LANGUAGE. LANGUAGE IS KEY.
Women should boycott any competition that allows men to enter women's division.
@TigerLily12345
Жыл бұрын
I agree
This taking stupidity to new level,why is it even being discussed? just apply old fashioned COMMON sense
@evieshore3270
Жыл бұрын
Because sporting organizations across the world are not applying old fashioned COMMON sense . Just check out the many competitions in the past year alone in swimming & cycling that have been won by a "trans" person. Girls and women are being trounced out of their own competitions with the full awareness of the governing bodies.
@realMaverickBuckley
Жыл бұрын
Young people and older people who want attention are going along with it out of misplaced empathy. In reality they're taking an active roll in what will be looked at as one if the most absurd trends in history.
@pinxtownington4645
Жыл бұрын
@@evieshore3270 and mate which idiots keep putting them back in power year after year
Man in a frock is a man not a woman it's a he
@lajade12
Жыл бұрын
Well said ❤
He not she.
They're not women. You might as well ask should Usain Bolt be allowed to compete against paraplegics in the 100m sprint.
@enigma_-_79
Жыл бұрын
😂
It's hugely traumatic for a MAN to be in women's sports. Traumatic for the women who are being taken advantage of. Why is nobody concerned for the REAL WOMEN and how this affects them?? Why are people concerned about how the MEN feel about it???
Are there loads of women who transitioned to men playing sport as men, if not why not?
Even if you play sport on an amateur level, the goal is to win! I truly don't understand Rebecca her reasoning. So for the sake of transgenders, people who are practicioners of amateur sport don't deserve a fair game? That's basically what she is saying, because she admits it wouldn't be fair on a professional level.
Apparently someone who doesn’t have a grip on reality, isn’t psychologically unhinged from reality. Very insightful stuff!! The curse of progressive programming.
@randomuser4201
Жыл бұрын
Just ignore all those mass shootings in america by straight white men, nothing to see behind the curtain.
NO, woman have fought for years to have equal rights. Just start a "Other" category in sports and let them play themselves.
IT's..... Why don't they form their own sports bodies ?
@anthonyclarke5579
Жыл бұрын
They (trans) do have their own competition, the Gay Games.
Good for Sharon Davies women's sport is women's sport
This is so ridiculous! We shouldn't even be discussing this!
They shouldn't be excluded because of their physical advantage. They should be excluded because they're NOT women!
"Transgender women" is a misnomer. Since the majority have male genitalia, lived a male adolescence and have male physiology why not identify as "transgender men"? The very questionable question "What is a woman" is a misdirection. Sexual species is not an "identity". It is a classification based on physical characteristics. The human species is divided into male and female. A reasonable question is, "What is transgender?" It is an identity. So let's have transgender sports competitions. They would differ from female sports and male sports for obvious reasons. The results would be fair. To attempt to force acceptance of an unscientific trans-species via bullying and violent behaviour is unacceptable. To a simple person like myself it is overt violence against women . . . misogynistic males under the guise of transgenderism appropriating the culture of women to threaten, attack and harm women with little to no interference from the law. That's frightening. If such people claim to identify as female why do they humiliate and harm women?
The sad thing is that this shouldn't even be a debate!
Create a specific category for them, please
@palerider955
Жыл бұрын
We already have, the men's category.
@anthonyclarke5579
Жыл бұрын
They do have the "Gay Games".
@enigma_-_79
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyclarke5579 😂😂😂
@joancooley1387
Жыл бұрын
There’s a category Coming . Slowly, Slowly, the back door is creeping open.
Why are we still even having this conversation? Why did we ever even have this to begin with.
The fact that this is even a question for debate is an indication of the extent to which society has fallen.
They should have their own category. It's not like we put wheelchair users in the sprint with the able-bodied, they got their own category, it made it fair.
Why is the argument if they took puberty blockers as a child. For a start there are so many complications with puberty blockers and hasn't the UK changed is stance on them so puberty blockers are no longer used. You have to wait now until you are 16 so you would have already gone through puberty. Plus they are still biological men.
What has this country come to. Obviously yes where there's a physical advantage
How can it be UNFAIR??? Its NOT FAIR to include them !!!
Love Sharon 💗
Perhaps Rebecca thinks this because she is practicing tribal politics and she knows full well that if she said anthing else she would be cast out from her political and social circle. In the world of left wing politics you are either agree 100% on everything or youre out.
@joancooley1387
Жыл бұрын
Supposedly she has a child !!!
@ae-ribae6426
Жыл бұрын
Also because from looking at her, she has no experience of any type of sport, let alone having ever spent years training to compete, only to have any win/scholarship etc robbed from you by a man masquerading as a female!
Swimming is a no contact sport, and a 6 ft + man with a long swim stroke shouldn’t be allowed to compete with the biological women.
Er, stop calling them women for a start, they are men.
Outed this person?? She nearly killed a man in a row over testosterone....she outed herself in spectacularly horrific fashion. My heart bleeds. Women's sports for women. The end
Stop pandering to these men
Why are you debating this question. Its bonkers! Madness!
right from wrong should not be ruled by feelings or being offend. Why are we even having this conversation is society dropped that low.
No males should be competing in female sports regardless of how you identify ...prove me wrong ...
Are we stupid or what! The question should not even being asked. How has sport come to this, how have we come to this?
No they should not be allowed
Thank god for Eamonn and men like him still speaking the truth on television. Wouldn’t be worth watching otherwise 🤔
"Strong woman. Strong woman!"
Why dont the power's that be within sporting fraternities allow transgender women to compete in the "transgender women's category " accoss all sports?
@annem9195
Жыл бұрын
Because the claim is “trans women are women” so they demand inclusion in female sports. Same with toilets- no, I’m a woman so I won’t use a gender-neutral or unisex loo, I must use “the ladies” cos I am a laydee 😂 I keep thinking of Emily in “Little Britain”😉
@enigma_-_79
Жыл бұрын
@@annem9195 😂👍🏻
@alisonvandermerwr6349
Жыл бұрын
@@annem9195 thank you Ann, i hadn't thought of that...we are in South Africa so this debate whilst slowly brewing, is nowhere near as big as in the U.k and America...
First of all theres no such thing as trans women ! They are MEN !
@Mr_Ashley
Жыл бұрын
There are no woman with dicks, just men with tits.
The reason we have two categories in sport, men and woman categories is to make it fair. Likely, men made this decision years ago. Stick with it. Move on ‘trans’ and form your own category.
You never hear or see trans-men doing the same thing, I wonder why, could it be that they wouldn't even get picked...........
Should have separate events for these strange things
Why don't they start their own sports? What's their problem? Why are they trying to trash normal sport!
Rebecca Reid trying to argue with a actual sports star
I see common sense has finally given in to these perverts. Why is this subject even being debated?
Why is this even being discussed?! Wtf
An open category for trans atheletes, where transmen & transwomen compete against each other. Should be fun.
@andykrykant5378
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha no 'trans man' would win anything! It would effectively be only a category for a particular type of men!
It's women's fault. Just boycott any sporting event they're allowed in. Just walk away and don't take part in those sports bodies.
What's the difference between transgenda and a drug cheat. Women will have to take drugs to compete.
Is Rebecca trying tell us there is a difference between trans and being unhinged?
@joancooley1387
Жыл бұрын
Think she likes to Highlight she’s Unhinge. It must get her subscribers.
It’s not exclusion…. They’re biological males. They were never included to begin with. TIMs / TIFs need their own, separate categories. There was a trans hockey game that ended with a trans “man” getting a concussion after a trans “woman” push “him” onto the floor. The obsession trans activists and TIMs have with women sports and spaces is a big red flag.
They should have their own competitions.
I think that tall people should be excluded from the high jump because they have a clear advantage.
Leave us women alone😡
No they should not, well said Sharon. Rebecca, if they don’t have the data then one has to assume until they do have the data that males have the advantage
The whole reason men and woman had certian things they do separately is biology
Definitely- give them there own category to compete in.
Biological men still have an advantage in non contact sports.
no men shouldnt compete in womens sports
Wtf is it a debate 😡
So easy to fix. Mandatory removal of male parts before competing and this nonsense will disappear overnight.
@pippasessment1
Жыл бұрын
@@abcxyz2927 So what? We're paying for the obese and alcoholics etc. to get treatment. I'm happy to contribute to their surgery via tax if it means the inadequate cheaters aren't allowed near women's sports with their manhood intact and perverts are kept away from women and children.
STOP referring to these MEN in costume as trans'women'. By continuing to use the word woman/women to in anyway describe these males is wrong and so completely insulting to us.
And now selling Pride Tee Shirts for 2 year olds in Pep & Co.... And so it begins.... Everywhere.
A Trans Woman is actually a biological man, come on journalists stop avoiding the truth.
There is no such thing as a transgendered anything... You can't transition your age, your ethnicity, or your sex. This is a load of BS.
@joancooley1387
Жыл бұрын
It’s Dangerous BS.
Hell no, the transgender women should be free to compete in their male category, no problem.
Yes they should be stopped. Women need to stop doing any favours for men until they stand up for us like they did over their beer.
Unfair?! You can't be serious!
If they want to compete so badly why don’t they just advocate for a trans category??
XX chromosomes = Woman, XY chromosomes = Man!
I agree with Sharon
Thats why have competitions in sport devided MEN or WOMEN..otherwise theu can all compete together..why is it even discussion about this?
It is unfair to expect women to compete against people with OBVIOUS advantages! No….they’re not being treated unfairly. The women are.
It's just 'UNFAIR' so stop with this jibba jabba .............keep fighting ladies.
Running, cycling, tennis and swimming aren’t contact sports so limiting to contact sports would not work. There are females who can compete in darts Fallon Sherrock and Beau Greaves are among the more successful now.
@avryllsixtus3429
Жыл бұрын
Oh please...darts .. you only have to stand in one place and throw a dart....oh and quaff numerous pints of beer at the same time..not the same as a transgender "woman" holding records in the female records of Park Run..which me son ran for a long time running sub 17 minutes runs which are recorded....people are competitive on Park run throughout the world...have transgender records..not to say that al transgender people are good runners....just those who are..m
A male athlete in womans sport lets get it right, and no they should not compete against women.
The Trans ally has never played any sport by the look of her.
@enigma_-_79
Жыл бұрын
Ouch. 😂
@joancooley1387
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ! ! Spot on.