No. Not your responsibility. If someone put unauthorized charges on the card, it's fraud. That's between her and the card provider. She's lying.

@Daveandconfused.

Ай бұрын

It’s still your card unless you report it stolen

@Yogastrong908

Ай бұрын

I don’t think he should give her any money but I don’t necessarily believe she is lying. Credit cards don’t always reverse unauthorized charges without massive proof of fraud. It’s happened to family members more than you think.

@jasonrodgers9063

Ай бұрын

I'm getting the vibe that ex BF didn't make unauthorized charges. I think it's WAY more likely that she "fronted" her ex BF whatever he bought with the card, relying on his BS promise that he'd repay her. Caller needs to RUN!!! There are WORSE things than being alone! (Namely, NOT being alone, but WISHING that you were!!)

@joegresells2161

Ай бұрын

Not sure if she's lying but I definitely wondered this because i've known people that helped an ex out and then turned it into, "My ex spent all my money!" when the reality is they let them spend the money because they either a) are still in love with the ex and/or b) the ex promised to pay it back and didn't. There is a better than zero chance she willingly let her ex use the credit card. I know dang well that if an ex used my credit card without authorization I'd immediately report to the police and file charges.

@rdb0819

Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t care if she was lying or being honest. The fact that she believes it’s ideal for me to help pay for something she acquired before our relationship is wild. That mindset in itself is enough to keep me from marrying her. I would be preparing to part ways if I were him. I spot manipulators from a mile away🤷🏿

She is lying her ass off. If her ex used her card without her knowledge, THATS FRAUD. Sue him or even have him charged with a crime. She is just trying to guilt trip this guy into paying for her bs. NO is a full sentence. FUCK NO would be better.

@Yogastrong908

Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t give her any money. However that doesn’t mean she will be successful in court getting that money from the ex. A “He said, she said” won’t get your money back.

@cyoohoos

29 күн бұрын

Talk about saying what most are thinking…. And getting to the point

@1jw298

29 күн бұрын

How do you drop F bombs and not get deleted?

@Playingwithproxies

29 күн бұрын

@@1jw298because youtube isn’t worried about curse words

@pitbull7885

29 күн бұрын

I would not marry this woman....the fact that she even ask for 12k is a large red flag.

She's bold to ask for $12k. If her ex charged her card without her permission, she should report the charges as fraud. If she doesn't want to, she needs to pay it off or try getting the money back from him.

@Yogastrong908

Ай бұрын

She probably was unsuccessful in her fraud challenge even though her ex could have been using the card illegally. That being said he bends to say no AND end the relationship. The relationship will never be the same either way.

@luminous6969

Ай бұрын

She probably can't cos she might be lying about her ex boyfriend using it cos men have a strong tendency to save women from what other men have put them through so the lie has a better chance of working than to just say that you were foolish and ran them up yourself.

@whosaidthat9265

Ай бұрын

I think she’s lying tbh. More likely she made some stupid relationship choices and spent money on the ex she now regrets.

@luminous6969

Ай бұрын

@@whosaidthat9265 Or the ex might not be involved at all and she just ran it up herself and blamed the ex cos he's no longer in the picture to dispute her claim.

@Stillswingingforthefences

Ай бұрын

I know you do not believe the ex charged it up? 😂

No is a word, and don’t forget to break up with her after that word

@IrishMexican

29 күн бұрын

Trigger happy

If she is going to pay you back, then let her make payments to the credit card company. She is asking because she wont be paying back

@penguin12902

28 күн бұрын

THIS! Her plan is to take the $12k and dump him.

@jeep19

27 күн бұрын

She's paying it back with 😺 he's DumbAF to do it 😂

“Run Forrest run.” 😳

So she wants him to pay off her last boyfriends debt on her CC .... 😂 go for it simpy....

@ultimaetsolder

Ай бұрын

@@JackWorkz maximum simp.

@benmyers9030

29 күн бұрын

She is simp slapping him. Her simp hand is strong

@ctb3343

25 күн бұрын

Right 😂

She’s not asking for a loan she’s telling you how much she costs

@georgewagner7787

29 күн бұрын

Grandma used to say, why should the Farmer buy the cow ....

@Dustin-tt4gx

27 күн бұрын

She is a user.

As a woman, this sounds so much like she's planning on making you pay off the card and then guilt trip you into allowing her not to pay you back at all. If you were a guy I knew or one of my husband's friends, I would tell you to run from this situation. She just wants to use you, and quite potentially planning to make you pay off the card and then vanish - and even if she doesn't vanish, I bet she is expecting you to propose and forgive that loan in the near future. If you can't give $12k as a gift with no strings attached, don't give it. Even if it's supposed to be a loan.

@penguin12902

28 күн бұрын

100% - She's wants the $12k then she's going to dump him and vanish. If she intended to pay it back she would just make payments to the credit card company, she wouldn't need to get the loan from him.

@dahliaherrod4301

13 күн бұрын

See that running thing is hard to do when they live together. One of the many reasons living together before marriage is a terrible idea. He already sounds conflict-avoidant which is a terrible attitude to have in a relationship. He needs to put his big boy pants on and tell her no.

This the type of woman who will have you raising another man's kids too 😂 bro, dont simp for her

If he gave her $12k that would be the last time he sees her.

@Kim-bv3xn

Ай бұрын

yup

@MisterNightfish

Ай бұрын

Nah, she's gonna stick around until he stops giving her money. Why would she leave before the well is dry?

@chuckiedavidson719

Ай бұрын

@@MisterNightfish good point

Without listening. NO.

@TheSoulCrisis

28 күн бұрын

A helluva word!!

No way. She will dump him right after he pays it off and he asks for it back. She will get another simp to pay for the next thing.

@lombardo141

29 күн бұрын

Jesus dude. Not all women are snakes. 😂. Take a break from black pill content

@upgradednigga

29 күн бұрын

Bingo

What a huge red flag

@midnightblue117

29 күн бұрын

Yeah…more red flags than a Chinese military parade!🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

His gut reaction should have been to DUMP her immediately. She is using you, my guy. End of story.

@Kim-bv3xn

Ай бұрын

exactly

@vickieclark5931

29 күн бұрын

I agree. She is definitely NOT a keeper. She's probably done this with every simp that she has dated.

@pitbull7885

29 күн бұрын

Her plan is to probably get that 12k, dump him, and he never sees that money again. He better run before it's too late. He doesn't need someone like her.

@MegaMarVerde

15 күн бұрын

Men use women since the beginning of the world. when the situation was reversed, men don’t like this😃

Don't do it! I loaned a boyfriend money. A couple of months later, he proposed. The payments stopped. He didn't feel he should pay it back since we were going to get married anyway. That wasn't how I felt about it. And no, we did not get married. But to his credit, he did pay me back after we broke up (I broke up with him for that and many other reasons). And yes, I did wonder if he proposed to get out of paying me back, if that was his reasoning that he shouldn't have to. It's a bad situation to put yourself in.

@PhilipMarcYT

Ай бұрын

What a cheapskate trying to marry you just to avoid pay a debt. Good thing you left him.

@kaythegardener

29 күн бұрын

Just think of what you escaped!! Hope your future is better!!

@dianeschenkelberg8270

29 күн бұрын

@@PhilipMarcYT Who knows how long the 'engagement' would last? And for him to make that assumption revealed a lot about him.

@dianeschenkelberg8270

29 күн бұрын

@@kaythegardener Definitely better!

A big fat NO!!!

Has he ever watched Judge Judy 😂 “It’s a loan!” “It’s a gift!”

If she cannot pay the credit company 300 bucks a month to pay it off, she cannot pay you either. The answer is no. She doesn't want her wages to be garnished. If the ex-bf spent all that money, why doesn't she take him to small claims court and get some of it?

Run , you will regret your decisions regarding her, get out and disappear. This is going to be a disaster, for Real.🕊️

"She's got in a situation with her last partner" Amazing. If he pays this off and then she dumps him and he gets a new girlfriend, in two weeks we can have HER on the show asking if she should pay HIS debts off. This could go on forever!

@TheSoulCrisis

28 күн бұрын

At least the guy will be at $0 and not -12K! 😂😂

Either way this is going to damage the relationship. Say no and get out.

If he gives her that money he wont see a single cent back and she will know that he have no spine.

@beck943

29 күн бұрын

She already knows he has no spine. He couldn't say no or yes, he said he needed to call the show 😂

@cletusthemysterious

29 күн бұрын

@@beck943 and he still talking about marrying her in the future. Some must learn the hard way.

@TheSoulCrisis

28 күн бұрын

@@beck943😂😂😂

I love hearing that "I'm a stupid f'n idiot for asking, but here goes" sound in the voice of these guys.

He's a simp

@mediamarv18

29 күн бұрын

Mega simp

@tylergnosis2581

29 күн бұрын

@@mediamarv18 facts

@Rob10288

29 күн бұрын

👍🏿👍🏿

The simpery is strong on this one 😂

When someone comes to you for a "loan", it is because the lending industry knows that they are a bad risk. They are a worse risk to you, due to your relatively weak position of recourse. This relationship will not last, either way.

@ExplorationRandomDestination

Ай бұрын

They are also trying to get an interest free loan without terms that they can pay or not pay back whenever they want lol. Should never give anybody a loan regardless of who they are without atleast a contract stating the terms and time period to pay you back even if you do decide to give them little to no interest.

The SIMP is strong in this one... -YODA

@kurtjames9487

29 күн бұрын

That's actually a Darth Vader quote.

12 grand after year and a half. How ex is the ex?

@taylord1558

4 күн бұрын

Fr! Like why now?? Is he still using her card?? That’s weird and you should fight that. She def is using him. Bet she no longer wants to be in this relationship and wants some money for putting in her time

Don't do it. Give it to her as in don't expect a payback or just say no.

@RichardRietdijk

29 күн бұрын

Absolutely. I actually wouldn't give a cent until a marriage has happened and it's "our debt".

@TheSoulCrisis

28 күн бұрын

Yeah some integrity and accountability needs to be displayed here to gain full trust….either she can pay it off in full with integrity or she can pay it down halfway at least until a marriage is formed and it becomes their debt. Either would be fine but HELL NO to loaning his hard earned and saved money with no financial and legal obligations/protections in place.

Never loan anyone money, especially someone you are sleeping with. If you don’t think they’ll find it easier to come up with an excuse to dump you and with it a justification for sticking you with the debt then you are really naive.

Straight to the comments!

NO.

This ain’t a red flag, this is the Russian flag. The fact that she asked the caller to loan her money for a previous bf’s mistake is WEIRD. Also, if she didn’t rack up the charges it’s fraud. This just reeks of deception and if i’m him, i’m running for the hills.

@Yogastrong908

Ай бұрын

He shouldn’t loan her the money. That being said not all fraud charges are reversed by the cc companies. It’s a flip of the coin. She could very well by the victim of fraud but still responsible for the charges.

@Apparition2077

Ай бұрын

@@Yogastrong908 if she can prove it wasn’t her, she has a high chance of them forgiving the loan. All in all dude should just run because it’s evident that she has zero boundaries finance wise.

@ecase727

29 күн бұрын

@@Yogastrong908 true if they were cohabiting at the time the charges were made, even he used her card without her permission it fall into a gray area. She needs to file fraud charges with the police to get that kind of activity set aside.

Dude!!! No good deed, goes unpunished

What if you break up, not your responsibility, make her sue her former partner.

Joe, just tell her... she already has a loan with visa or MasterCard, She doesn’t need a loan. She just needs to pay it off.

So according to the caller, his gf wants him to subsidize her ex boyfriend's bad behavior to the tune of $12,000.

I would be preparing to cut that relationship off the second she decided to ask me that 🤷🏿

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@IngridEmbla

29 күн бұрын

Same here, my portfolio has been going down the drain while I try trading,I just don't know what I do wrong..

@paulrichard445

29 күн бұрын

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28 күн бұрын

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@briankelvin3656

28 күн бұрын

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@crystianadazi

28 күн бұрын

​I'm also a huge beneficiary of her.. I thought myself and my family were the only ones enjoying Ella trade benefits

Don't do it. As others have stated IF the charges are fraudulent she can sue the ex and see if she can get the funds that way. Otherwise she needs to develop a plan to pay this off by herself.

@JM-ps6le

25 күн бұрын

I doubt they’re fraudulent. My coworker gave his very short term gf his credit card and his old car. She maxed it out, took the car and the newborn to a new state

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@ShaniRajak-iy6jn

29 күн бұрын

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@LOVE-ye1eg

29 күн бұрын

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@gdudhdu

29 күн бұрын

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@LOVE-ye1eg

29 күн бұрын

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@LOVE-ye1eg

29 күн бұрын

She communicates on WHAT S A P P on the digits below>

The answer is No. If she cannot pay back the credit card company, why would she be able to pay you back? Even with a 20% interest rate, the extra amount of money on $12,000 isn't that much. It will make things simpler if she would go get a credit card with 0% on balance transfers. Transfer it, and cut the card in half.

You’ll never get it back ….. just saying

@Rashaadthegr8

Ай бұрын

not necessarily.

@crooked52h

Ай бұрын

Wishful thinking

@Rashaadthegr8

Ай бұрын

@@crooked52h I done it before. And always got paid back. It's not for everybody.

@davidbrayshaw3529

Ай бұрын

Gone like the wind. Black T-shirts, CD's, portable TV's, various bits of furniture... All stuff that I no longer own.

@JM-ps6le

25 күн бұрын

@@Rashaadthegr8no for sure he will never see that money again. After giving a man the cookie, no woman think she owes a man any money. He owes her in her mind 😂

Didn’t even make it through the intro before coming here to say, don’t do it.

Borrow? You mean give? Lol

No. Help her put together a plan that pays it off.

Listened to the call again--her last partner used the card without her permission. Did she report it as fraud? If she did what was the result? Or were both of them legally liable for the debt?

@Yogastrong908

Ай бұрын

The cc company probably didn’t have enough to reverse on the basis of fraud. It’s actually not that easy to get fraudulent charges reversed, especially on a debit card transaction.

She wants you to pay her ex-boyfriend's bill? Crazy Crazy Crazy.

DON'T DO IT!

Run! Don't walk away from this one!

No marriage talk until she pays off that credit card debt, especially since it was from her ex

@taylord1558

4 күн бұрын

I mean granted 12k really isn’t that much but I wouldn’t want to wait forever if it was a big debt. You could write a contract that says your debt is yours and mine is mine but if you’re still saying after 6, why not just marry?

If I were the GF, I'd get a personal loan, pay off the debt and close the credit card. Don't ask others to pay your bills. EVER. I'm a woman. You don't ask a man to pay your bills. You just don't.

@taylord1558

4 күн бұрын

How can you be okay with asking that much too? Like maybe $100 but a full ass thousands of dollars?? Like girl you only been dating a year!

Did they address that she got into this mess and isn't making strides to get our? Even if ex used her card, that indicates she let him or doesn't watch her finances. Asking for another loan is kicking the can down the road. They need to be on the same page with financial goals and methods or this relationship is doomed to fail.

Caller: Girlfriend needs a $12K loan. Show: Get married. 😅😅

@djpuplex

Ай бұрын

So he call back when there's a divorce.

@jaywagner2321

Ай бұрын

@@djpuplexand he’s ordered to pay her debt because he held her back by keeping her from working more

@beck943

29 күн бұрын

They asked him, and he said he was already planning to. They didn't counsel him to marry her.

@georgewagner7787

29 күн бұрын

If they were married, she would have to listen to him

@djpuplex

29 күн бұрын

@@georgewagner7787 😂 that's not how marriage works. Men are the ones who are subservient in most every marriage in the West.

She ran up that debt & is now blaming the ex while looking to get the new bf to pay it off! Pure madness 😂

@dimediamond

25 күн бұрын

Happenes every day in all honesty

If her ex got access to her credit card and used it she should’ve reported that to the issuer and police to investigate as fraud so she’s not held responsible. It may be too late now since she didn’t seem to see the severity of it at the time it happened. How does he use $12k and she didn’t know immediately or report it when it happened? She’s lying. If she’s asking for a loan you’re entitled to see what you’re helping pay so ask for statements to see what she really bought. As a woman I’m telling you do not loan her money for an alleged ex’s mistake. She should’ve reported that if it was in fact true fraud. She is lying to you and will likely break up with you after you pay (especially if there’s no contact to repay). She’s an adult and you’re not married so she’s responsible for her debt. If you turn down loaning her money and she becomes upset or threatens to break up with you, that’s your answer. She’s not entitled to you paying off her $12k loan. And normally people will ask their family (parents) for money before asking a partner or friends. This is a little odd.

@whosaidthat9265

Ай бұрын

She’s lying. She let him have the money and it magically became fraud after they broke up

If she can’t pay the bank back she sure as hell ain’t paying you back. Red Flag 🚩 homie

Saying no is the best way to see if you’ve actually got a keeper worth more than all the interest she’d pay in information about how she reacts to no

Hard no.

No! Next question

If you loan her money, you will never see it again for the rest of your life. She will continue to lie about paying it off and will always have excuses on why she can't pay it off. There's a reason she's coming to you asking for money: it's because everyone else has already said "No"

That girl playing with you, she just wanted to see if he would do it. You’d never see that money again.

@taylord1558

4 күн бұрын

Maybe she decided the relationship is over and just wants to get something out of the relationship

NO Don't do it. Just give it to her that's what you will be doing. Just pay it for her she be happy.

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You’re NOT married and that’s NOT your problem. That’s HER debt. This whole situation is so ICK!!!!!!!!!

Ken was on point in this clip. 👌 Great pairing with Jade. She is awesome!!

Getting a loan to pay off a loan. End result ? Still in debt 😂😂😂

Jesus de Christo, when people say partner instead of boyfriend or girlfriend I just know they wear a mask alone in their car.

@PriestessHephzibah

29 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

If someone else uses your credit card without your permission that’s call theft. She should file a police report and contact her credit card’s fraud department.

Does he own his home? If not, this would be $12,000 taken away from that down payment.

So…. She asked YOU to pay off a debt her last man created? Who shares a credit card with a person they aren’t related to? Did she even tell you what the charges were? This smells like a deal breaker for the relationship

@taylord1558

4 күн бұрын

I mean it kinda depends how long they were together. If it was years than I could see that but also if it’s years why you not married? But how can you even be comfortable asking a guy money, you have only been dating a year such a large sum of money

3:45 "The power shifts, you become the lender and she becomes............not the lender." Whew nice save there Jade! 😅

No

He already know the answer, just looking for confirmation. He doesn't want to do it, and he shouldn't, to easy for her to leave when her debt is paid.

You're not gonna get married. As for the $12,000, it is up to you. If you have it and want to give it to her as your girlfriend and somebody that you love (only you would know), give it. If not, don't. You make the decision.

No. No, period, is a sentence.

NO! Absolutely not! One time will lead to a second and so on after that. Each time will eventually cause problems driving each other apart. Easier to just fight once and not do it and explain why it’s a bad idea.

@davidbrayshaw3529

Ай бұрын

No, one time will lead to "Why did she leave me, where is she now".

@MrAbword

Ай бұрын

@@davidbrayshaw3529 she’s a girlfriend not a wife, easily replaced

@MrAbword

Ай бұрын

@@davidbrayshaw3529 she’s a girlfriend, not a wife. Easily replaceable

@MrAbword

Ай бұрын

@@davidbrayshaw3529 she’s a girlfriend not a wife. Easily replaced

@MrAbword

Ай бұрын

@@davidbrayshaw3529if that’s why she left, she wasn’t the one anyway bro

No. She wants a loan? Ask a bank / credit cards.

Don't do it unless you wanna be her master cuz the borrower is a slave to the lender.

I suspect the relationship is financially lopsided. Perhaps she needs to charge him for her "services" as she probably does the lion's share of cleaning, laundry, grocery shopping,..and more. Then she would easily get the money to pay off her debt.

😂😂😂 NO!!! You're going to pay for some other dudes free ride. Joe you'd be a fool to do this.

With her mindset, just tell her no so she could break up with you now instead of after you simped and loaned her the money. You don't want a woman like that for a wife.

no. nO. No. NO!!! She ain't cha wife!!! Get rid of it and find a real girlfriend!

I'm surprised that they didn't mention the fact that borrowing 12k from him to pay off the credit card still leaves her 12k in debt. It's not like this is magically getting her out of debt so don't "loan" her the money.

Don't do it. It will cause problems regardless of what happens. If you stay together, it will cause tension between you even if she pays you back (which seems unlikely to me). If you break up, you'll never see a dime.

@taylord1558

4 күн бұрын

It’s such a sus question to begin with too. When married it’s one thing but he’s just a bf

hell naw, marry her then pay the debt for the both of you OR just say no,...if she leaves you becasue of it good you were wasting your time anyway...

Get it notarized

@davidhale4647

29 күн бұрын

they said no

This man is a simpleton. Why is he living with a woman he is not married to? You know Dave does not approve of such living arrangements. This is not the whole story. This girlfriend is up to no good. This is my first time hearing that someone stole a person credit card and use it and the person did not press charges, file a police report or fraud report . This is not the whole story. Stop making this lady look very very bad. She is bad but you are too.?why is she not working to pay off her bills? This is not the whole truth.

Consider it a gift, as she will probably not pay it back. My friend couldn't repay because she "needed" a new Mercedes.

No!

NOOOOOOOO!!! NO WAY!!! FORGET ABOUT IT!!! RUN AWAY FROM HER!!!

No.

The answer should be....Sorry, I cannot loan you the money, but I can help you set up a plan to pay off the card. I will be here for moral support and cheer you on, be by your side as you succeed in paying down the debt.

No never ever ever lol unless you are giving her a real contract and close to market rate interest which would likely require a license.

Run for the hills!!

She would still owe the money just to you instead of someone else. 2nd) what is your long term goals? You have been together for a year and a half but still dating. If you get married then it’s also your debt and pay it off.

If she doesn’t pay you back do you really want to be paying her ex’s charges?

She’s not going to pay it back; she’ll call it a gift.

It's telling that she would feel entitled enough to put him into such an awkward position in the first place. 🥴

No! Plan and simple. However, you can work as her advisor by calling around and helping her get a debt consolidation loan. These debts often require decent credit scores and a good employment history. The credit card should already be cancelled, so no new debt is added. Regardless of her excuse/explanation, she’s not good with money yet.