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Rich Eisen debates if Tua Tagovailoa deserves to be paid $50M per year by the Miami Dolphins.
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Shout out to Omar for egging him on.
I appreciate Tua trying to be mindful of what word(s) he chooses. I think “antsy” was the most accurate.
@lanceallenmcginnis1105
Ай бұрын
Tua agreed to antsy
@davidoconnell3834
29 күн бұрын
Or maybe he needed to pee. 😉
They can pay him 50 this year or wait a year and pay him 60. The QB market is not going to go down in the next 12 months
The only person that deserves the highest paid QB trophy is Mahomes.
@jimmytwotimez
Ай бұрын
Agree, but like Tua said the market is the market. If owners want to do something about it, then negotiate during the next bargaining agreement.
@LetsHide3
Ай бұрын
And Kenny Pickett
@d8l835
Ай бұрын
Nathan Peterman bro. Legendary
@blakeharris58
Ай бұрын
He doesn’t want it. Stop making this point.
@ericlin3867
Ай бұрын
agreed, I think Jared was overpaid but I'm still happy. He got us to the playoffs and almost a SB. Mahomes has been there and done it. So 100% right take
"Do it in the playoffs". I wonder if Brockman feels the same way about Herbert? Who has gone much longer with playmakers than Tua has.
@TheMattTrakker
Ай бұрын
Herbert was much better in his playoff game than Tua was...
@kevo1441
Ай бұрын
Three comments in a row with the period outside of the quotations. It goes inside.
@Wiley94
Ай бұрын
@@kevo1441 No, it doesn't. The quotations are part of the sentence.
@sanblue303
Ай бұрын
You’re right one guy choked a playoff game and the other choked away the division, multiple games and season with a loaded roster. Lol dolphin fans and their cope 💀
@trashastrash9722
Ай бұрын
@@sanblue303 herbert chocked a 28-0 playoff game in perfect degree weather. L chargers fan.
As a dolphins fan I like Tua. Do I think he deserves 50 million? Big no but I want him to get extended. But that’s how the market is and it’s 50 million plus.
@shutdowncorner7743
Ай бұрын
50 mill will like like a steal in a year or two into the contract when you compare to new deals that will be signed in the future.
@Milesrk717
Ай бұрын
@@shutdowncorner7743 that’s is true
@ektran4205
Ай бұрын
mahomes already already set the market for qbs
@MrMenace3210
Ай бұрын
@@shutdowncorner7743 Which is kind of the problem - QBs will no longer have to be top of their field to earn Yacht money. Therefore the NFL has too much money!
@173jaSon371
Ай бұрын
@@MrMenace3210 Do you not recall Carr, Flacco, Cousins, and Stafford getting record setting contracts in the past decade? You never had to be a top QB to get paid, just need to be top 10-14ish. Only Flacco deserved his deal after a super bowl W
He’s showing restraint and he is being a leader. Careful to not cross he line. Really like this guy.
Here is the list of the super bowl winning QBs who were top 5 highest paid in the league.... Payton Manning End list
@darthsadic
Ай бұрын
Patrick Mahomes, you know? Your daddy.
@deemity7557
Ай бұрын
@@darthsadictwice too lol😂
Rich is the only sports guy I look forward to hearing, as he is factual, entertaining, palatable to hear, and interesting opinions. The Best Sports Show.
@TheNich29
Ай бұрын
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The answer to the question is no, hell no. Goff has been to a SB, 2 NFC championship games and has the city of eternal losing on the brink of going to their 1st SB in history. Tua, has the best receiving corps and has done nothing. Burrow, only has 2 healthy seasons and has 1 SB appereance and 2 AFC championship appereance. Tua is a mid $40 million QB, because of the inflated salaries, that's all.
@jordanharris2210
Ай бұрын
Wat about Justin Herbert 👀 he got paid and doesn’t having the playoff success that u just mentioned.
@KneeReaper420
Ай бұрын
@@jordanharris2210Chargers gonna charger but Justin isn’t the issue
@jordanharris2210
Ай бұрын
@@KneeReaper420 I agree I’m just pointing out that neither qb has done anything significant in terms of winning
Ай бұрын
@@KneeReaper420 hilarous so dolphins losing is tua issue?? LMFAO
@terrencesimpkins734
Ай бұрын
All I read was he lost a bunch of times .... lol
What QB are they gonna get if Tua walks? When you have a guy that leads the league in passing yards, you pay them. Plus, Mike Mcdaniel LOVES Tua. He's not going anywhere.
@1DolPhan1966
Ай бұрын
Exactly, all I hear is don't pay him let him go. But they never say who to replace him with...I know...there isn't one.🤷🏾♂️
Ehhh... Idk about "should". He "could" be paid that much. But does he deserve it? That's for the Dolphins to decide. On the other hand, it'll make things interesting for Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence
love rich...Tua is getting a big bag.
When the play goes as planned Tua is a top 5 QB in the league. When things break down around him, like vs good teams, he’s below average. But he’s still improving as a player.
No way Tua should be paid as much as Jared Geoff. Tua has not won a playoff game.
What happened to Tua getting too many concussions and was gonna sue the Dolphins or forced to retire? Was that last year or the year before when his fingers crinkled up?
Pay him the highest for any QB right now and move on to the next press question.
May not agree where he went to college but this guy is a helluva quarterback. Miami needs to trust in him and pay him.
Jared Goff ahs won multiple playoff games for multiple teams something Tua hasnt done. He should be paid not sure how much
@lowkey6597
Ай бұрын
Y'all pick and choose when it's a team sport smh
"It is not in my control". lol
@kevo1441
Ай бұрын
Three comments in a row with the period outside of the quotations. It goes inside.
I love you Rich - Tuajitsu - genius!
You can say Goff has had some stacked offenses around him over the years but he has 5 playoff wins. Tua has the big goose-egg and he has had as stacked an offense the last 2 years as you could ever hope for. Go back a few years to that rams-chiefs game where Goff out-dueled Mahomes 54-51 and ask yourself if you think there’s any way Tua wins that game?
@Honestly__now
Ай бұрын
and that was a good Chiefs team. That was before Kupp and Gurley went down
@thedcgaming5
Ай бұрын
nobody saw Tua throwing for 6 TDs to come back and beat the ravens. Jackson isn't on Mahomes level but is still a 2x MVP and put up numbers that game; he did it before and has had other games like that (last year vs chargers early in the season where he outdueled Herbert); he has gotten better every year so we will see how he improves this upcoming year
“Market is the market” well ever heard of a bad market?
Yes
Brockman’s Tua hate is insufferable. Are we going to say Daniel Jones is better because he has 1 playoff win? Tua has only had a single playoff opportunity and lost to the SB Champs in obscene road conditions. Tua’s money is due. He’s shutdown every other rumor about his health and arm by lighting the league on fire last year with a healthy roster.
@Jadon-hs3kb
Ай бұрын
Truth
@Drewswaggy
Ай бұрын
Your optimism is valued, especially with Fins nation… but I think you Tua fans need to be real with themselves. Hes mid. he does not suck at all. But he can’t get you over that hump due to his height, arm, awareness. Talented but it’s his fifth year and he’s barely survived one full year. He’s a notch above Daniel jones. But in the basket of QBS…. You pay him top dollar, you will regret it.
@TheMattTrakker
Ай бұрын
Thinking a meh qb is meh, isn't hate. You're just a blind homer. There is a reason your team continues to be irrelevant when it comes to games that matter.
@dougr188
Ай бұрын
Sometimes the truth hurts. Goff has a MUCH better resume than Tua.
@johnbryan2051
Ай бұрын
Brockman uses Michael Scott logic. I have spoken.
He has no playoff wins and disappears in big games. As a Dolphins fan I just don't feel like he is ever gonna take them to the next level.
Anxious
If Miami wants to be back in quarterback purgatory and irrelevancy within the league, then sure go ahead let Tua walk.
@djaimes2186
Ай бұрын
And get who? Because dolphins haven’t had a decent quarterback since Marino. Tua is 26 btw and has been the best quarterback they’ve had in decades
@mrgannon
Ай бұрын
@@djaimes2186 Bro you're clueless. Sarcasm is completely lost on you 😂
@aboveSubparBallAnalysis
Ай бұрын
@@mrgannonTua is same as Purdy , he won’t be the same and make Hogans Better like Brady once They are paid , Goff , lions have a good Gm dolphins didn’t pay Wilkins 😊
@roberttammaro7305
Ай бұрын
@@aboveSubparBallAnalysis you're not making Sense. Not paying Wilkins wasn't a bad choice. That money was was too high. And they added more defensive pieces with the money saved
@ZGh0st1422
Ай бұрын
@@aboveSubparBallAnalysis purdy was a third stringer that came into a great team and balled out. Remind me how well Miami's backup and third string qb have played in miamis offense again?
Tua plays in Miami which is in Florida which is a tax-free State and golf plays in Detroit that's all I have say
Tua is not worth $50 Mill.
@theliverpoolking2259
Ай бұрын
You’re right, he’s worth 55
@Jadon-hs3kb
Ай бұрын
Yep 55
@josephfontinha3845
Ай бұрын
100 billion
@funnykids572
Ай бұрын
Look I love tua but if you want to build a dynasty you have to take less money not a lot less but less
@keyoke69
Ай бұрын
He’s gonna get it.
Why does brockman not complain about Herbert’s deals or any other QB who is 0-1 in the playoffs? Drives me crazy. Just be consistent. And by not being consistent, if that is your reasoning for giving QBs money - playoff success- then be critical of every QB with a bad playoff record. And 0-1 is not bad.
@173jaSon371
Ай бұрын
Probably because it is clear as day that Herbert is a much more talented QB than Tua will ever be?
@RichEisenShow
Ай бұрын
you must be new here. I'm an equal spreader of hate. -Brockman
@misterrobert6799
Ай бұрын
It's actually an insult to call them both quarterbacks.
How many games has Goff missed due to injury in his career? How many has Tua? Pay Peanut Brittle Body as much or more than Goff? 😂🤣😸😹👻
@1DolPhan1966
Ай бұрын
How many has Burrow missed? More than Tua..
There’s exactly one person who can answer that question, and it’s nobody in this audience. It’s the owner. So stop this nonsense and let the man make his decision.
Fins are going to have to pay him. I dont think hes worth the money he'll get, but they wont get anyone better and the core of that organization is tied to him. Their entire offensive system revolves around his unique skill set.
Tua deserves the money and security coming his way,and if the fins pay him and believein him and make him feel supported,Tua will win you a championship,believe that
@misterrobert6799
Ай бұрын
You should write comedy.
We’re dissecting pauses now lol
3/4 of the way of last year we had home field locked up everything fell into place all we had to do was keep winning guys got hurt and we kept losing
My answer to the question in the title is, NO. But if the Dolphins and agents come to the table with the msrket prices for franchise QBs will ask for the same amount as the others.
Tua is not someone anyteam should invest more than 2 years into
@misterrobert6799
Ай бұрын
I wouldn't invest two games on that noodle arm.
Thought he was about to say "pissed"
Omar been in Miami forever, they know exactly who he is
i like Tua but idk if i’d pay him - Goff has at least been to multiple Super Bowls & NFC championship last year. very underrated QB
5:36 "You're saying that, but your team hasn't beaten him yet. " Brockman's face says it all 😂😂
“The salt is on the table “ 😂
The fact that Tua is No.1 in 3 important QB stats is pretty cool, you got Hurts, Jackson, Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Stroud, Love, Cousins, Goff, Stafford, and so on... they all 2nd, come on that's amazing.
@misterrobert6799
Ай бұрын
And complete rubbish.
What Tua should have said was, “I’m not talking about my contract, and I’m not commenting on anyone else’s contract.”
@jeanfourcade
Ай бұрын
Tua has never been too sharp. And he's atrocious in front of mikes, recititating lines some PR feeds him.
Looks to me Dolphins are not comfortable extending Tua. They played the "show us you can play a full season" card to activate his 5th y option. He proved he could stay healthy for 18 games, but no, there seem to be more snags... and Tua is "pissed off". Looks to me Dolphins are currently pursuing other venues, like trading him. Now there is another team famously holding out on its QB extension. Would they be talking, and discretely working out some contract-plus-picks deal behind the scenes?
Every team goes to injuries. Last year Miami's injuries were just extreme. way too much. They were really banged up more than averagely
Should've paid him last year.
I know this is a Capt. Obvious statement, but Jared shouldn’t be paid what he’s being paid. And yea, I think it’s a disgrace that teachers/police/nurses etc. are paid so woefully.
"The market is the Market". Its not about comparing to Goff or Mahomes. If you wanted to pay Tua differently then Dolphins should have set the market themselves two years ago. Just like they did with Waddle, now they aren't being compared to Jefferson. It's ironic that Dolphins are paying top dollar to Waddle buf doesn't want to do so for the QB that threw Waddle those passes. Just like Rich said earlier, keep on delaying and letting the cost gets higher. Ironic that both Rich and Chris root for teams that are both in QB purgatory. They are both laughing at Dolphin fans. Has Aaron Rodgers shown you he deserves his massive contract? Especially since he is dealing with another injury. Scabs? Tbh, we have seen this show before. Grier wil get contracts quickly. Once he doesn't and allow this past 1 week, feelings get hurt. Then, he says blank bet on himself but couldn't get the numbers to work out. Welcome to QB purgatory.
@bourbontrail565
Ай бұрын
Tua absolutely will not deserve the “market” money that Miami will pay him. But you know Tua’s thinking he’s “Entitled” to it without earning it.
@jihyotwice3159
Ай бұрын
@@bourbontrail565 Then let him walk and welcome in the era of QB purgatory next year. Just like the Patriots and the Jets. Since you are so knowledgeable, with whom do you intend to replace Tua with? Really, without earning it? Tua has turned around the Dolphins offenses in two years after the Flores fiasco that screwed other QBs such as Zach Wilson and Mac Jones. You can't place the blame of injuries of the whole team on him. Plus he made the Pro Bowl last year and keeps improving. Don't say he hasn't won a playoff game as if that too is his responsibility.
@bourbontrail565
Ай бұрын
@jihyotw… I never said Replace ! I don’t agree with overpayment for Anyone. Hopefully Tua stays healthy and Lets Go….
The fact that there's even a conversation at all whether he should get paid or not at this point in his career should tell you all you need to know.
Tua looks about 5 years younger with growing out his hair…lol.
@tiax1592
Ай бұрын
i know, right?!! he is almost unrecognizable!
@jeanfourcade
Ай бұрын
Doesn't make him look any smarter though.
Tua is a good quarterback but he is not worth $50M a year.
For you rocket scientist the word is" Unappreciated"
If I'm Miami, I'm tagging Tua if a deal can't get done and then draft a Quinn Ewers or that Sanders kid and then ship him off to the Jets
whether ppl think hes worth it or not is irrelevant. Tua is right, there's a market and it now starts with a 5. If they don't pay him, some other team will
Tua Turn the ball ova
@throwthe9route92
Ай бұрын
Why do you have to throw Trevor Lawrence under the bus like that.
Speaking of salty That patriots fan has zero leverage to speak negative speculation about tua😂😂
No
Everyone saying goff>tua like goff hasn’t also played in a great scheme all of his career (mcvay and Johnson) with a top 5 oline two great running backs and st brown and company as well as kupp and gurly on the rams he also got embarrassed in the superbowl against the least talented Brady team to win
@britishqbproductions4268
Ай бұрын
You do realise ben johnson was a rookie offensive coordinator He didnt just inherit a great system, he helped build it
@jdub3943
29 күн бұрын
@@britishqbproductions4268 so tua didn’t help create a system that was made for him and only works bc his processing ability?
@britishqbproductions4268
29 күн бұрын
@@jdub3943 im not saying he didnt, but based on the palyoff results from both of there careers , especially this prior one where goff had zero trunover and a 70% cmp rate, id argue goff executes his system better I dont think tua is a bad qb by any means, but based on their careers, even since tua entered the league, i think goff is objectively the better qb
Goff with that dolphins offense probably ends up in superbowl
No way should any player contract start at 50m let alone Tua. What does Brou say he's crap against anything but tomato cans?
If I'm tua I'm taking 40 milly mostly guaranteed for 4 5 years with a clause an extra 15-20 mill goes to the wr room. These receivers are gonna be the ones that keeps him competitive.
Well Goff is a great qb. When Tua is on he is elite. They are comparable market wise. I hope Miami pays him he’s proven himself in my eyes.
Tua will get the bag. He’s poised the be the next Gamera of the NFL. Just watch…
What is his market if he was on the market who wants him at What cost
As a Dolphins fan, just let him ride out his 5th year, we haven't even seen a playoff win with probably the best roster in Dolphins history.
What’s Geno gunna want next year 😬
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The worst part of the NFL is you get hurt for drafting or development a great QB then resigning him. It destroys your salary cap which is bad for the game. Its an awful system. You should be able to sign your own players that you drafted or traded for without fear that your team will now be dismantled or that theres some arbitrary clock ticking against your competitiveness. Free agent signings are different as thats rewarding teams that cant draft good.
Need play it out like dallas..
I think if you think he's your guy you need to pay the man. You can argue that he's not at the same level as Goff who has taken one team to the Super Bowl and another to the NFC championship. So is Tua at that level, maybe not, but can he be, if you think so then you have to pay him. You can't just say well he hasn't do it in the playoffs since the sample size for the post season is smaller than all of the time played and stats racked up in the reg season. If that's the case then lots of QBs would get their walking papers. You'd only reward players deep runs. Doesn't matter what was in your control or not in those playoff games? You gotta pay him or get a new QB if you have doubts.
@jeanfourcade
Ай бұрын
Spot on. It's time for pay or trade, Dolphins know everything they need to know about Tua to make a decision.
No.
Poor Chris
With Tua it’s a catch 22 situation! Without Tua the Dolphins are no where! Without McDaniel where is Tua? How many QB’s in the NFL are worth what they are getting paid? Right now only 2 comes to mind! But the rest of the league is trying to find/create one of these 2 guys (Mahomes, Allen)! Burrow would be there if he were not so injury prone!
As a Bills fan, I firmly believe the Dolphins should pay Tua 100m a year
Inflation, market cap is rising. Tua needs to get extended
The fact that Tua will get paid more than Mahomes is BS!
Does Chris also believe Justin Herbert didn’t deserve his contract because he hasn’t won a playoff game?
Who rates a QB number 5 after knowing that his injured?
Lifelong Dolphins fan here. You can’t pay a spot thrower that kind of money
@SMB1386
Ай бұрын
Bro....let him walk. I've been saying this. Wish we still had Tannehill with this offense.
@wolf45skyline
Ай бұрын
You're not a dolphins fan then
@openmike4559
Ай бұрын
@@SMB1386are you serious?
@SMB1386
Ай бұрын
@@openmike4559 100%. Tua is not the answer. You don't give a guy the bank just because there are no other options.
@scruffd0g193
Ай бұрын
@@SMB1386yep we saw how bad Miami was in 2022 without him.
Pay Tua, maybe he'll learn to play in cold weather.
The market is the market and in this market Tua isn’t worth what Jared Goff is.
I’m pretty sure Tua beat Jared golf when he was with the Rams and another time with the new Lions team 🤔🤔
If you PROGRESS EVERY YR YOU DESERVE 💰 LIMPED INTO PLAYOFFS B2Byrs is only thing that stopped SB Run
@Jadon-hs3kb
Ай бұрын
And it won’t stop us this year
Tua should be paid more than Lawrence, remember, if tua didn’t get hurt, he would have been ranked as number one on the draft chart, but, after the injury, his still rated number 5 ? That tells as how good he still is
As a fan. I don't want to see the team spend the CAP money too out of balance. Pay the QB #1 in league. Pay LT #1 in league. Pay WR1 #2 in league. Pay TE #1 in league. Pay RB1 . . . . Well . . . . We all know RB's are paid very little. They are lucky to be paid bonus in S&H Green Stamps. Perhaps dual threat RB can also get an A card so he can go to the store and turn in his Green Stamps for a meager portion of bread with just a pat of butter. Poor RBs. You see what happens to running backs in this system. Will we ever have an Emmitt Smith or Walter Payton again?
Tua seems like he's nice. It's not about* being nice. But, because he is, I'll add "sorry".
QBs like Tua are the nightmare scenario. They are just good enough that you end up sinking a ton of money into them but never good enough to win the really meaningful game. Everything around them has to be unrealistically perfect for that to happen.
@jeanfourcade
Ай бұрын
I agree 100%. And by not signing Tua right away before all other QBs (Falcons, Bucs, Lions), Dolphins showed how uneasy they are about Tua. Which should drive them to trade him and work right now with another QB, or give Skylar his shot.
Tell him TUA
Of course Tua should get paid better than Goff. Why are games played against winning teams all his fault? What share of fault should the coaches be responsible for against these teams with winning records? For all the hype with McDaniels being head coach I still see the coaches choking calling plays on both sides of the ball. And has Goff ever had a 4,000+ yard season? The Gate receipts and Phin fever ever since Tua has become QB should suffice.
I think the contract should be based on the individual players contributions to the Team and previous performance not just the market. It should be on an individual basis. If the dolphins don’t want to pay him, he’ll go somewhere else .
@roberttammaro7305
Ай бұрын
It's a mixture of the market in general and the market for the individual
@jeanfourcade
Ай бұрын
No. Contracts of all kinds are between the two parties, and no one else. Both parties being free of chosing whichever criteria they deem relevant to stamp-value said contract. 50 mil/year for Cousins looks ridiculous to all of us, but if it looks fine to Cousins and the Falcons, after all, why not? It's not our money.
Rich: Your team have yet to beat Tua. Brockman: that has nothing to do with anything.😂😂 The hypocrisy from Brockman is insane.
@es8382
Ай бұрын
It’s not hypocritical the patriots are terrible and been be terrible, those wins aren’t that impressive
@MrMytube60
Ай бұрын
Using the Jets as barometer is not saying much! How far have the Dolphins gotten with Tua? I will wait.....
@Jadon-hs3kb
Ай бұрын
Well for starters they’ve gotten a whole lot farther than they have in the last 20 years but we don’t remember that do we
@HawgWyldFishing
Ай бұрын
Neither of their teams have beaten Tua. They both have beaten Miami in games Tua didn’t play in.
@antonioingram3857
Ай бұрын
He really hates Tua and it's Personal
Bro we won’t stop hearing about this until Tua gets paid smh We get it guys
Goff has led 2 teams to a Super Bowl. Tua hasn't appeared in one afc championship game. "Show me the wins afore I show you the money" should be the statement.
@GMan5451
Ай бұрын
2? I only remember the one with the Rams. 1:47
@davidhiatt1486
Ай бұрын
@@GMan5451 oops thanks for correcting me! Two nfc championships is still better than 0 playoff wins though.
@MrMytube60
Ай бұрын
@@davidhiatt1486 good recovery!
Goff > Tua.
1 out of 3 years upright..50 million..wtf
I’m with you 100% Brockman!
Searching for an adjectives for Tua. Trade him.