Every QB in the league can thank Daniel Jones for setting 40 million as the new starting QB minimum. If the worst QB in the league gets 40 million then that's where negotiations start for everyone.

@ngc-fo5te

20 күн бұрын

He wasn't the worst in the league though. That's just wishful thinking on your part.

@cfredtmbg

20 күн бұрын

@@ngc-fo5te Agreed, he’s not the worst, but he’s not a good QB. At all. Everyone around the NFL knows it was a horrible contract and it’s messing up the market.

@ngc-fo5te

20 күн бұрын

@cfredtmbg Oh I don't think he's good but there are a few worse. Actually I don't think it really affected the market - the contracts were spiralling up anyway.

@salamander337

20 күн бұрын

That's because the Giants has no one else. And they planned to sabotage other teams from keeping everyone. 😂 They can afford to play that game.

@nightshift8249

20 күн бұрын

Giants fan here. DJ is far from ideal but he’s middle of the pack. You couldn’t even judge him last season. Our line had him seeing ghosts from week 1 and he wasn’t healthy. I don’t agree with paying him what we did, but he’s had the deck stacked against him his entire career. And who was there to throw to? The key was supposed to be Darren Waller but naturally he was hobbled all year. Worst I can say about Jones is that he’s mediocre.

Owners and GMs are being really stupid lately betting the house on all these young QBs who really haven't proven anything. How in the world are you going to pay a QB $50M a year and they haven't even won you a playoff game yet. There definitely needs to be a market reset on QB prices, but it'll never happen.

@southsidetone

20 күн бұрын

Tua just finally stayed healthy 4 a whole season. If paying tua stops them from keeping players u just can't do it

@Ballaholic17

20 күн бұрын

With a loaded roster too.

@mr.doctorcaptain1124

19 күн бұрын

I think we’re in a very strange NFL era where the GMs are seemingly incompetent, but the coaching staffs are the best they’ve ever been.

@NightcoreNewbie

17 күн бұрын

As odd as it sounds, the market reset will probably come from Purdy. Think about it. Purdy has 2 NFC championship appearances and 1 superbowl appearance regardless of how much or little he was carried by the team depending on who you ask. Other teams will go to their qb and say "Can you do what Purdy did?" and then go based on whatever pay Purdy gets from his contract. Weird world we live in but that's just how it is now.

He's worth 50 Filet-o-Fish sammiches

@WatchCJStroud_work_gym_sleep

10 күн бұрын

49

It's what the market is now. Tua will get his bag. Kirk has 400 million for one playoff win. 😂

@camreese

19 күн бұрын

Yeah but kirk has a strong arm and is actually accurate not the Fugazi accuracy of tua

@lowkey6597

19 күн бұрын

​@@camreese- 🤡

@robertdering2608

19 күн бұрын

I'd take Kirk , over Tua in a Second.

@MarsPegasus

19 күн бұрын

​@robertdering2608 Man, I think you're smoking weapons-grade crack to take Cousins over Tua, who just led the league in passing yards.

@lowkey6597

18 күн бұрын

​@@robertdering2608- 🤡

$50 million a year for Tua... sounds like Jerry's sequel to All In.

It’s always so tough for rich to say he’s wrong lol

I think Miami suffers "the curse of the Marino." 13 years, sniffed the Superbowl once as the greatest passer in the game, and was never given a running game.

@ultra13907

19 күн бұрын

or defence

@MSgt_0699

18 күн бұрын

Except the Dolphins right now have a running game and the Defense is going to be improved from last year.

@JiandiP

18 күн бұрын

I hope they're better but that's yet to be seen. Losing Wilkins is probably the biggest game changer. Also AVG to a lesser extent. Then there's question marks on Chubb and Phillips. How will the rookies develop? Will Cam Smith finally get some snaps? Is Fuller an upgrade over Howard? Will the defense remain relatively healthy over the course of the season? Anthony Weaver has his work cut out for him.

@Sacred_G_

15 күн бұрын

They had a #3 defense with Marino one year ​@@ultra13907

@c2jones

13 күн бұрын

Dan played 17 seasons and won playoff games on the road late in his career solely on his arm. The last Miami QB to win a playoff game since Marino wasn't even Tua. (Jay Fiedler.)

Burrows made it to the Super Bowl. Tua hasn't won a playoff game. There's the difference.

@PA96704

20 күн бұрын

So what about the rest of them? Stat man?

@NewRimHoops

20 күн бұрын

Tua has only played in 1 playoff game lol

@joshuaphilbert7995

20 күн бұрын

Burrows post seasons stats are worse than Kirk cousins. The difference is the Bengals defense was top notch, especially in turnovers both years.

@milesligon5696

20 күн бұрын

Burrows and Tua both lost to the Superbowl winner. So they have that in common.

@nnjjee1

20 күн бұрын

And he can't perform in cold weather

Everyone in the world: “Burrow made it to a Super Bowl and is probably the second best QB in the league. Tua hasn’t even won a playoff game.” Rich Eisen “Yeah they’re basically the same QB in terms of accomplishments.”

@ryandodsonmusic

15 күн бұрын

As a Bengals fan I would be horrified if we went from Burrow to Tua. Burrow is a super star. Tua is an okay qb… there’s a massive difference between a quarterback who gets you to the playoffs and one who gets you to the Super Bowl. Bengals have had both.

Tua is the best QB they’ve had since Marino & it’s not even close. He is getting his 45 to 50 million

@josephfontinha3845

12 күн бұрын

Great point

@555calex

Күн бұрын

I think Dak Prescott is in this particular range...

Ima a dolphins fan, I love Tua…I want to keep him, that being said, he is a mid level tier qb….Somewhere in the 40-45million range …Goff has better size, and playoff proven…One SB appearance and a conference final appearance …

@jeanfourcade

20 күн бұрын

As another Dolphin fan, I keep hoping we would ditch Tua altogether IF we're really serious about building a winning team. Tua, it is awful to say, is a very good tier2 QB, but way too limited to carry a team when needed. What he does, any good QB would do it better under McDaniel. Imagine Herbert or even Dak coached by McD...

@ZGh0st1422

20 күн бұрын

⁠@@jeanfourcadehow do you plan on being a “winning team” by getting to rid of the guy the offense and scheme is built around? Have fun replacing the entire offense, coaching staff and scheme just to build another team that might bring you to the playoffs

@knowa745

20 күн бұрын

@@ZGh0st1422exactly, people act like it’s easy to find Mahomes type QBs which as Dolphins fan we should know it’s extremely rare. Moving on from Tua will only set us back

@andrewwilliams5487

20 күн бұрын

Tua gonna shut yall all up watch

@davegenther6877

20 күн бұрын

Dolphin fan, 40 is what i’d pay. After that…its a reach

No one should make more than Pat Mahomes drop mic

@roguebossa

19 күн бұрын

You sir are Correct

@SeventhSonofASeventhSon77

16 күн бұрын

Give me a break. I'm not going to dispute Mahomes being a great QB, but I see too many games where the refs essentially give them wins to act like it's all him.

@JediTiga

16 күн бұрын

Mahomes makes 25 mil a year in endorsements, he doesn't care about having the biggest contract

Very surprised that owners are not fighting back on these QB contracts.

Why repeat a contract scenario like Russell Wilson. He just isn’t a 50mil a year guy.

It's ridiculous seeing average quarterbacks like tua and dak get these ridiculous contracts because they've got great players around them... But if you're not a top 3 quarterback if you get paid that kind of money your team has 0 chance

@PA96704

20 күн бұрын

So no one else has good WR's on their teams? Hmm....

@luism8130

20 күн бұрын

He led the league in passing.... but ok.

@ZGh0st1422

20 күн бұрын

Devante Parker and jakeem grant are such amazing players 😂🤣😂🤣 recency bias going crazy in y’all’s heads

@quattrocity9620

16 күн бұрын

Well they will probably pay Tua because they built the team around his strengths and he stayed healthy last year. Now he needs to show he can win when we really need it. (- Phins fan)

Make him prove it

@scamswish8664

20 күн бұрын

Prove what lol?

@TheMattTrakker

20 күн бұрын

@@scamswish8664 That he can win a playoff game. That he can continue to stay healthy. That he can be consistently good. That he isn't just a product of that offense, where you could plug anyone in and get very similar results.

@joec8942

20 күн бұрын

@@scamswish8664that he can beat a good team. That he can win on the road. That he can win in December. That he can throw outside the numbers. That he can not completely choke in the big moments. Tua is a Hawaiian Tebow

@luism8130

20 күн бұрын

@@joec8942 When did Tebow lead the league in passing?

@daylanm66

20 күн бұрын

@@scamswish8664prove that he can beat playoff teams LMAO vs playoff teams he was 1-6 had a 62 completion % 8 tds 8 ints passer rating of 80 Vs the tomato can teams he looked good it’s unfortunate you can’t play those teams in the playoffs though 😂 and he can’t beat Josh Allen who is in the same division as tua

Rich cannot possibly be comparing Burrow to Tua. Come on, man. “Not far off”?

@jeanfourcade

20 күн бұрын

Rich is aging quickly, I think.

@luism8130

20 күн бұрын

Tua has played more games than Burrow..

Everybody seems to forget that Burrow went to back to back AFC championship games

@LAMARViCK

20 күн бұрын

okay and

@trazz407

20 күн бұрын

Cool! You should say that in a video that's about the Bengals! We are here watching a Tua video, so maybe you should know where you are in the time space continuum

@scruffd0g193

20 күн бұрын

Yes and ? He’s got hurt again last year. Stay healthy and actually beat a healthy Ravens team (something burrow has never done)

@jimmyhooks

20 күн бұрын

this dude comments this on every football video 😂 he's determined to remind us all

@RayWilson-bf5qz

20 күн бұрын

Did that add up to a Superbowl?

The NFL just needs to have position caps or something

@verafiedairman

15 күн бұрын

Nahh, let the market dictate value. Management needs to be held accountable if it doesn’t work out. No one needs a $40M Daniel Jones. There’s already league minimums, and team salary caps. Let the players get paid.

@seansnyder6421

13 күн бұрын

Lmao it's called low ratings/views

Tua is in the tier with Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott and Jared Goff. Solid, but not elite.

@mightymitch1421

20 күн бұрын

Tuas numbers aren't nearly as good as Kirk's or Daks. Goff level sure.

@iyaayas2010

19 күн бұрын

​@@mightymitch1421you dropped your crack pipe, sir. Goff is the best QB in that group

@mightymitch1421

17 күн бұрын

@@iyaayas2010 You think Goff is better than Kirk or Dak? That's fucking hilarious.

@fortshucker

14 күн бұрын

@@mightymitch1421cousins playoff record is 1 and 4, Dak is 2 and 5. Goff is 5 and 4. You my man are fucking hilarious.

@555calex

Күн бұрын

@@mightymitch1421 ; No not as good but he just as effective or better in that style of offense...

Bills fan here. PAY TUA!!

@jeanfourcade

20 күн бұрын

😂

@JoshTito22

20 күн бұрын

Extend Allen!! So the Superbowl drought can continue PLEASE

@joec8942

20 күн бұрын

@@JoshTito22🤦‍♂️🤡

@werb24

20 күн бұрын

@@JoshTito22 stupidest take ever. You dream of having Josh Allen as your QB. All but 1 or two teams in the league dream about having that dude aa their QB.

@daylanm66

20 күн бұрын

@@JoshTito22literally every team except KC would take Allen lmao the 13 seconds game was on the D this past season was on Diggs and Tyler bass none of the playoff games was 100% on Allen it’s been his supporting cast that has let him down The bills have this #1 D that plays amazing in the regular season but then come playoff time they play like a mediocre Defense

How do Tua's playoff numbers compare to Skyler's playoff numbers?

@thomashyink8866

16 күн бұрын

They both lost.

Did Rich and Brock forget that besides the SB, Burrow was a drive away from a 2nd SB? Tua is not close to Burrow.

@jjames130xPS3xCOD

19 күн бұрын

Lol that was 3 years ago brother, Burrow is more injury prone than Tua

Only a handful of QB deserves 50+ Million. The rest is just base on being "their turn." As they say, don’t hate the player, hate the game...business.

Active QBs would would lead the league in passing in Miami with mcdaniel, hill, waddle etc Mahames Allen Burrow Herbert Rodgers Lamar Kyler Purdy Cousins Hurts Dak Russ Goff Stroud Love Maybe geno Smith and Derek carr.

@ZGh0st1422

20 күн бұрын

If this is true, why didn’t hill have such amazing seasons with mahomes? Why did it take tua for hill to have back to back best career seasons? You can’t say it’s because mahomes had more people to throw to because Miami had Wilson, waddle, cracraft, smythe, Mostert, berrios, achane, just to name a few of the other options

@jamelwilliams1144

20 күн бұрын

Wrong 😂😂😂😂

QB salary is an eerie parallel of capitalist society, give me more than I need and let my team suffer.

@JalapenoSteve

20 күн бұрын

Then play QB lol. The great thing about capitalism is it awards people who have skills other people don't. Wouldn't trade it for anything else.

@citizenx8710

20 күн бұрын

@@JalapenoSteve We don't actually live in a meritocracy. That is the lie.

@maxrobbins4835

20 күн бұрын

A scholar, I see

@MSgt_0699

18 күн бұрын

@@JalapenoSteve Um, no. Capitalism, like any other economic system, needs to be regulated. The reason kids graduate college owing $170,000 is because people with skills are not "awarded." It's why the working class struggle to buy a house or budget for groceries. Capitalism is for the poor, socialism is for the rich. How many bail-outs and tax breaks do you receive? And do you realize that the working class pay more taxes for salary income than the top bracket?

@MSgt_0699

17 күн бұрын

@@MosheGoldbergTheKing My teenage girls used to like splashing emoticons all over the place too. They grew up though.

It’s been 20+ years since the Dolphins 🐬 have had a QB as good or better than TUA! That was an old Dan Marino! Dan is in the building all the time now and Likes TUA! So TUA is getting paid! I personally would like to see something in the Pat Mahomes mid $40’s range! That gives the team way more room to continue to build and sustain the team in a competitive way!!

@anthonystone6031

20 күн бұрын

I agree that he should get 40 million and then give him incentives when he can prove himself against winning teams and the playoffs 👍

It's not about proving anything for Tua but health. Why wouldn't he play out his rookie deal. There is NO BENEFIT for the team to sign him right now and guarantee him money when he's one bad hit away from being done. He's not even a year past contemplating retirement.

He's no Jared Goff - I can tell you that.

@josephlawrence9584

16 күн бұрын

Jared would have been in superbowl with that offense miami has

I like how the top 10 highest paid QB'S and only 1 has actually won the Superbowl.. how bout we devalue the salary cap

@roguebossa

20 күн бұрын

4 of them sat last year out with injuries🙃

Thanks for this topic caller. Let him play this year out because he’s under contract. Next Year if they pay him 300 or 400 million that contract will have voidable years and injury clauses so he’ll get 2 years out of that contract maybe 3 . With the chance that the Retirement Concussion messing everything up. Stay Healthy, Tua .

Give him 40 million with incentive clauses…. Prove yourself against winning teams and playoffs 👍

@ChefDaveKingKong

11 күн бұрын

Tua and his agent turned down and incentives contract already.

Yes

if kyler and deshaun can get paid 46 mil than so can tua

@thomashyink8866

16 күн бұрын

AMEN!

1 and a half good years?? Tua took Miami from a losing team to 4 straight winning seasons, 2 of those years with a terrible coaching staff and mostly bums to play with. Why do people not acknowledge this?

@stewartbergman1812

8 күн бұрын

Never will be a Super Bowl contender, if you are happy knowing that sign him for whatever, 50 plus million.

@ZGh0st1422

8 күн бұрын

@@stewartbergman1812 best qbr 2022, led the league in yards 2023, but sure, pretend he’s the issue. People love to admit they dropped out of high school online

in my opinion the middle 3 of the 40 apy + tua can be plugged and played wherever, and we're probably talking the same results. kyler, deshaun, kirk, and tua are all the same caliber quarterback to me.

@jamessanders145

20 күн бұрын

Tua can be plugged in anywhere? The man neeeded a mad genius to come and tailor an entire offense to make him look good, he needed to get star WRs and elite offesive head coaching and he still can't beat teams with a winning record... good luck plugging him in anywhere

Please pay Tua! From Jets fans all over.

@danielsantana7370

20 күн бұрын

Tua 5-0 vs jets

@scruffd0g193

20 күн бұрын

Tua is 5-0 vs the Jets.

@troyortiz2414

20 күн бұрын

I don’t like Tua but why would Jets fans care one way or the other?

@dkgdkg2178

20 күн бұрын

AND BILLS fans!!

@aaronanders855

20 күн бұрын

Why Jets fans doing victory laps to a guy they haven’t beat since he got to the NFL lol 😂

Lets compare them, Burrow vs Tua. Tua has played 1 more game. Burrow has a better completion percentage by 1%. He has 1,800 more total yrds and 20 more TDs. All while being sacked 50 more times. Now the playoffs, Burrow has 5 wins to Tua's 0. Burrow has a 16% better completion percentage and 1,700 more total yards and 9 more tds. This same thing happened to Lamar last offseason bc he got hurt and everyone wrote him off too

@werb24

20 күн бұрын

Lamar wasn’t worth the money either. He will always implode in the playoffs bc he has an obvious and exploitable weakness that the good teams can exploit.

@Dabbers41234

20 күн бұрын

@@werb24 Falls on the coach then. Every player is like that. Brady got destroyed anytime he faced a team with all a stall of amazing interior rushers. Eli still laughing how he got 2 rings thanks to D line play. The coach has to maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses like bell dd w brady early in his career.

@christophermarks7110

20 күн бұрын

Brady's probably not the best example of a team overcoming his weaknesses

@Dabbers41234

20 күн бұрын

@@christophermarks7110 I mean every time they couldnt handle the interior rush they lost. Brady is the goat but he had amazing teams and coaches around him esp the first 3

@thomashyink8866

16 күн бұрын

Actually Tua has played more games.

Rich got him good. Chris said Burrow is a little more proven than Tua by saying Burrow had 2 seasons at 4500+4600 and Tua had 1.5 seasons at 3500+4600. If he wanted to prove his point, he should not have used those numbers.

Interesting how not one word about paying the QB who just took his team to the SB, and also took them to the NFC championship the year before in his rookie season. Extension is coming after this year, which will be his 3rd year.

Who would take Tua in a trade? What would be the price?

@jeanfourcade

20 күн бұрын

Let's ask the Giants. HOw about a swap?

Right on Rich, put him in his place, Tua is the Dolphins franchise QB, live with it, too bad if you don't like it!

Yes. He is worth it. As with EVERY quarterback he needs the right pieces to work with. No QB wins a game, much less a Super Bowl, without great talent at all the other positions.

They’re gonna sign him. Before camp. He’s worth 40-50. Do 4 years with a huge signing bonus that way you can move on after 2 years and not be killed in dead cap space. Survivable. I think next year they need to show that they have consistent success and Tua has done that so yea. Winning the Division alone would make his contract ironclad valid

Hell no. Offer him 40 and if he turns it down and wants to walk away, let him go. hes benefitting from the system a majority of starting qbs in the league could put up similar numbers in miami. any given sunday he gets another concussion that ends his career. Go get someone with top 10 upside

@luism8130

20 күн бұрын

Every single player in the NFL is one hit away.

I'm big on Tua and I don't think he's a 50mil QB, but a solid 40. That being said, there's a tendency for Tua haters being the people with the least ball knowledge on TV

Lamar only scored 3 more points than Tua against the same team, but he was at home, in significantly better conditions. Context matters and these people love to omit it.

@thomashyink8866

16 күн бұрын

The MVP got bounced in the first round just like Tua.

Lot of armchair GMs in this chat. None of you know anything. The market for QBs in the NFL is insane, it is what it is, period. QBs who are 6-12 ranked are going to be at least 40+ million. That is the market value, you gotta play to pay. I can tell none of y'all know anything about business. Tua is in the 6-9 range with a solid argument for being 5. Again it is what it is. If Miami let's him walk the same people saying "get rid of Tua" are going to be the same people complaining "Miami is so bad." Actually good QBs are hard to find, not running first QBs (Justin Fields) Pocket QBs are what you really need. Look at Lamar, great runner, not great in the pocket, hasn't made a super bowl. MVPs are cool but irrelevant. Lamar hasn't made a superbowl but you know who has? Actual pocket QBs like Goff, Burrow, and Purdy. Mahomes is an anomaly because there hasn't ever been a QB elite at both, maybe Steve Young is the closest. Tua is going to get his bag because 1. The market is the way it is and 2. Tua has substantially improved every single year. Led the league in a few major passing statistics. Tua is a better QB than 99.99999% of the population and in the NFL maybe 5 QBs are better. Cope harder clowns.

Yes and should not take that to help the team

As a Jets fan I want Tua to be the highest paid QB in NFL history

@kevingrandyify

17 күн бұрын

Tua is 5-0 against the Jets

@edwardshaw1743

17 күн бұрын

@@kevingrandyify and yet the Jets have a more recent playoff win.

@thomashyink8866

16 күн бұрын

A Jets fan talking smack. Classic!

@thomashyink8866

16 күн бұрын

@@edwardshaw1743 And the Dolphins have a more recent SB win!

@edwardshaw1743

15 күн бұрын

@@thomashyink8866 Congrats on winning a Super Bowl during the Nixon administration 👴🏻

If we can still legitimately have a debate this far in as to whether or not Tua (or any other player) has proven he's worth elite money that essentially means he hasn't. When you are genuinely worth that type of money there's nobody arguing about it.

Offering the highest contract won't turn a QB into a better one, let alone the best one. Those Tua-Dak-Cousins-Lawrence, or previously Russ-Watson-Murray conversations prove that the money paid out to QBs has nothing to do with their performance on the field. But exclusively with the commercial windfall the owners think they'll milk from the aura of their QB . No franchise goes bankrupt by failing to win SBs.

As a phins fan give him like 45 million and ill be happy. Use the facts that we can keep paying guys like waddle or tyreek. Also no state income tax.

I think teams start dumping core backs after the rookie contract unless they are a mahomes or Brady type quarterback

Tua is the best QB in Miami since Marino. Pay him, because it was 20 years before you got this kind of production from the QB position.

@roguebossa

20 күн бұрын

That's simply true, like it or not.

@Ballaholic17

20 күн бұрын

Sorry, but if he can't win a division title or playoff game with the roster we've had around him these last 2 years, going on 3, and 5 years total, then why would paying him 50+ million be any better moving forward? Isn't the goal to beat the best teams and win a championship? If you can't do that while he's cheap and with a good roster, then why waste another 3-5 years trying to do it with a worse roster? Waddle, Philips and/or Holland are due big money, too. You can't settle for mediocrity by paying a qb that can't help you get over the hump just because you don't know who the next guy will be. The job of the GM is to bring a championship to Miami, not to just be competitive. Unfortunately, this is a salary cap league. If your qb is making 50+ million, then you can't build the same around him. If we can't even win this division, then why not try and get someone who can give us a shot while still being able to build a good team around him? The team will only get worse talent wise the next 3 years, not better. I'm all for letting this year play out to see if Tua can do it, but if we get the same results and he can't come up in big moments in a contract year, then when will he do it? I love the guy, but this is football related. He's a great face of the franchise and great person. I have nothing bad to say about him, he's a solid qb, just not 50+ million solid. That's my beef with Tua, it's the money and money only.

@JamesHavlin-ez4gw

20 күн бұрын

Ok concussion Tua is not going anywhere you can’t even trade him…….

@BrettL250

19 күн бұрын

You’re crazy. Miami has such a good team and the only thing they are missing is a quarterback. Tua is not that guy. As a bills fan I hope they keep him because he sucks. Tyreek Hill and waddle I’m afraid of. Tua no way.

@JamesHavlin-ez4gw

19 күн бұрын

@@BrettL250 totally agree!

Get it done ✅🐬🆙😎

As a dolphin fan, no I don't think so, but the quarterback market is just too high now. It's either pay him a ton of money or one of the other QB hungry teams will pay him that much.

As a Dolfan, Tua has proved he can pad his stats against bad teams, and underperform against good ones and in the playoffs. Lets be realistic here with Tua. Our third string QB did a better job against the Bills last year in the playoffs than Tua did this year. Tua is holding this offence back if anything. Put Allen, Rodgers. Mahomes or any actual top 5 QB on this team last year, their numbers would have dwarfed Tuas. Real talk 😮

This is what will define tuas career. He has to know he is not on burrow, Herbert and Jackson’s level. Leave some cap room to keep his stats high

Unfortunately, if you want to keep your quarterback you have to pay market rates. Maybe you can get away with 48-49 but probably not. QB's cost money. It's like the stock market. You can't make money with cash. You have to invest it in something. If they didn't like Tua they should've gone after Cousins or trade for picks and get someone this year. They didn't. So they will pay Tua.

@judithoberpaul509

20 күн бұрын

You say you can't make money with cash, you have to invest it. That's basically right. You have to invest it in a team and not the QB's role based on a dollar ranking. With some of them it seems to me like a modern-day human trafficking, the highest bidder gets the goods.

not sure if Tua is worth 50mm a year for 5 years but he is def worth 200m + (non guarantee) long term contract. Tua is THE GUY

Anyone suggesting that Tua won't get $50M doesn't understand the market, or the salary cap. Nor do they understand Tua's value.

@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734

18 күн бұрын

I understand that it’s all capitalistic bullshit, and Tua isn’t even close to worthy of 50+ million per year…

@Gray_Bush

17 күн бұрын

@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 😂 Sounds like you're going to be upset when he signs.

My dawg Rich! You tell em

Might as well give it to him. Who else you gonna get?

Hank Schaeder?

No Quarterback outside of Mahomes is worth 50 million a year but that is what the market is se at for a starting top 10 QB

None of these players are worth this. No ticket is worth hundreds. It is insanity run rampant

@jeanfourcade

20 күн бұрын

Parallel worlds... grown men debating whether throwing balls around is "worth" 40 versus 50 mil/year. Utterly histerical.

@rzawistowski33

20 күн бұрын

The full stadiums would say otherwise

@JohnDoe-kh6mt

20 күн бұрын

​@@jeanfourcadethe offseason is always like this..

@R17759

20 күн бұрын

The NFL makes billions of dollars. And the players are the reason why. So they should get paid a lot.

How much did the highest paid QB Super Bowl-winner make?

I think Tua wouldn't want to hurt the team to fill his pockets. I think it's gonna be a team friendly deal.

Tua only led the NFL in passing last year. He was only top 5 in every important passing category. Has only had 4 straight winning seasons since entering the league and helped lead the team to back to back playoff appearances. All this while playing behind a poor O-Line since entering the league (last year due to injuries on the line). So ya I’m not sure he deserves to get paid. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

He led the league in passing and accuracy.. more wins than losses any other QB this wouldn’t be a conversation!! Pay the man

@natej84

20 күн бұрын

Burrow has a better completion percentage, 1,800yrds and 20td more than tua in the same number of games. Tua is good but paying him 50+million a year will destroy the dolphins team

@The_Dude_1

19 күн бұрын

The fun thing with stats and percentages is that they hide the truth really well. Be honest, what was his record last year against teams with a record better than .500? Not worth more than 42/yr.

@Affordableshoereview

18 күн бұрын

How does one lead the league in accuracy? Completion percentage?

@romeconner3053

18 күн бұрын

Burrow was injured we are talking in a complete season stop acting like u guys didn’t see him put up completion stats and yards that would’ve gotten any other quarterback payed.. the convo was not was he a good qb at first it was can he stay healthy.. he did that and now it’s is he good enough to get payed.. let’s not do this lol

@natej84

18 күн бұрын

@@romeconner3053 you know Burrow has the best completion percentage in NFL history right now right? Brees is number 2 right behind him. Burrow has played one less game than Tua and has 20 more td and almost 2k more yards. Tua is ok but he ain't worth top 3 QB money. I'm not even sure if tua is a top 10 QB. Also Burrow has played 60 games in the NFL and only missed 14. He's been sacked 150 times and honestly it's kinda crazy he hasn't missed more games getting beat up that much

As a Fins fan and one that likes Tua; Call it 45M APY and keep it moving. Both the team and Tua win with that

@legend1849

20 күн бұрын

That's the problem the team won't win

@kurtrogers9658

19 күн бұрын

@@legend1849 I think they can. The lack of depth on D last year and Tua not being available down the stretch two years ago got us. I think we've made steps in the right direction under McDaniels every year. Is Tua a top 5 QB; no but this is the most logical hope this team has given me in my 30 years as a fan. Extend him but don't reset the market is all I'm asking

Tua is a top 10 QB in the NFL. What is the pay today for that ranking?

Contracts have become ridiculously insane anymore, so it doesn’t matter what they pay him or any player……cost will always get passed onto us fans. At some point all games will only be available on a streaming service 😉

@d8l835

20 күн бұрын

Lol no they won't. Owners make most of their money off the stadium, tickets, food sold, merch sold, etc.

@TheMattTrakker

20 күн бұрын

@@d8l835 First, no they don't. Second, what does your point have to do with games only being on streaming services? I don't think he means they'll close the stadiums, but that they'll stop having games on regular channels. And why are you including merch? Unless you're only referring to merch that's sold in the stadium and not that which is sold everywhere else.

@d8l835

20 күн бұрын

@@TheMattTrakker the tv deals, and the money coming in from the stadium. That's where they make their most money. Games will never "only be available" on streaming services. There's alot more that goes into it than just paying for the rights to broadcast the game you know

@jonkeippel6244

20 күн бұрын

Thank you Netflix, and the NFL! Owners will continue to incrementally raise prices on tickets, and everything sold in the stadiums, so skies the limit for salaries!

What is this man talking about. Burrow went to the superbowl. The next year he was in the afc championship game.

@bermudabengal

20 күн бұрын

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!

@thomashyink8866

16 күн бұрын

Didn't win either one.

No defence wants tutu with the ball n his had with the game in the line

Yes, Tua has proved himself within the offense because the offense was specifically designed for him. BUT Tua has not proved himself a leader, and has not exhibited the fire to win. So Dolphins should wait till the end of this next season, let Tua prove himself to be a leader and winner before giving him a big contract. It will be a mistake for the Dolphins to commit $$$ now.

3:35 well Rich the NFL wasn't going to allow that😮

With the overvalued qb market he’ll get it, is he worth it, no

The answer is YES!!! It doesn't matter if he is worth it or not. He is their QB and is closing his rookie deal. Either pay him, trade him or draft a replacement. 50 is the price it costs to have a franchise QB. I said this last year and will repeat it. If I was him, I would sit until I get my contract. Why risk any more injuries or concussions. His parents and agent should be telling him the same. No, I am NOT a Tua fan or Miami fan.

Yes, I want to see a 5th year "prove it" for Tua.

No team would pay TUA 45+ millions If the dolphins let him test the free market. He is a good QB but need to be surrounded by really good to elite players and he has shown that he is not capable of winning against playoffs teams.

@benoitwaffle5439

20 күн бұрын

All things can be true. Multiple teams would absolutely offer him more than $50million per, he needs great players around him, and his body of work is not great against playoff teams. Bad QB play gets coaches and GMs fired. If a team can get one without emptying the draft pick arsenal, they will be willing to pay what it takes figuring they can make up the cost by hitting on draft picks and cheap second chance players elsewhere.

@jeanfourcade

20 күн бұрын

If salaries were based on performance, Tua's contract should be below Mayfield's. But so should the contracts of many other star QBs... starting with Herbert, followed by Cousins, Murray, DS Watson...

@TheMattTrakker

20 күн бұрын

@@benoitwaffle5439 If other teams are giving Tua 50/yr, the guarantee is going to be really small. Dude is meh and has an injury history. That's not the type of player you should line up to sign.

@benoitwaffle5439

20 күн бұрын

@@TheMattTrakker His guarantee is going to be two-to-three years like they all tend to be depending one whether it is a four or five year deal. Tua isn't a perfect QB, but he is either going to get the Goff contract this offseason or Goff+ whatever the cap increase amounts to next.

I guess they're going to have to raise the cap to $ TRILLION

Rich is right. We will know shortly

As long as there is a Brady style QB like Pat Mahomes willing to take less money or at least restructure his deal to be cap friendly ($35 mil over the past few seasons), None of the other guys mentioned in this video will win a Super Bowl. Other teams with a cap friendly QB will win some, but no team paying these guys 40+ or 50+ will win.

Besides following the recent Tik Tok trend and signing QB’s for $50M, there should be no reason why any of these QB’s should be even paid half of that.

As a Dolphins fan, I'm not basing our negotiations on what other teams paid their QBs. Almost all of those big money QB deals turned out to cripple those teams. Murray and Watson are great examples of why Tua should NOT get $45M+/yr

Tua proved he's a franchise QB, and the cost for a franchise QB is $50M+. He's getting Goff money at least. All the Tua critics can cry about it.

In the corporate world are you awarded double your salary by not meeting your goals

I am a dolphin fan and Tua fan but i agree with making him play out his 5th year option. He has proven the haters wrong that he is a good QB. But he is not elite. He is not Burrow

I think Kyler Murray is the best example I feel like he’s in that category. I don’t think he’s better than cousins Watson Allen Mahomes Burrow hurts, etc. not to mention he has every single weapon you want

Doesn’t matter if he is Goff isn’t but that’s the market

The topic sounds like I'm at a QB auction. Who is offering more? Ah, 50 here, 55 the next, oh, there's another offer for 60 million. But there's a team and everyone wants to be paid fairly. Who can still understand these amounts? Ah, there's something else: It's supposed to be the market value.

"I wouldn't have given Joe Burrow all that money either"... bro WHAT? lmaooooo he would be fired as the GM immediately

He's going to put up more numbers than Rogers.

@BFree775

17 күн бұрын

Number don’t matter lol wins do ..

The first $70M per QB is almost certainly already in the NFL. The first $25M per happened in 2017. In 7 years that’s more than doubled. The first $70M per will happen before the end of the decade. Stroud will absolutely be looking at that number if he continues to play up to the level he did as a rookie. If Williams lives up to his hype he’ll be looking for it too.

@benoitwaffle5439

20 күн бұрын

In 2017, the cap was $167 million, and Matthew Stafford led the league at a $27 million salary. With the cap at $255.4 million and projected to go up to $314 million by 2027 (the life of Goff's deal), the QB position is growing faster than league-wide revenue and cap, but not by as much as people think due to the cap surge over the past three years and expected growth over the next few. Also, yes, $70 million per will happen in relatively short order as a result.

If he had started his career on a team that cares about it's players he would have done better I'm sure. Miami owners have a long history of just wanting ppl in seats

I am sure there are a few teams out there willing to pay Tua $50 million. He has a winning record on all games with Miami (more wins than losses), he break records. Last year was his first chance to play in the playoffs and the Dolphins OL was playing with guys that that week they had to call out of retirement. Dolphins started losing their best players on their last 5 games.

@Yaboi-wu2ec

20 күн бұрын

I’m going to say I doubt it by a lot

@andrewwilliams5487

20 күн бұрын

You know football !!! Stated all facts

Yes that’s the going rate for QBs.

Being a Dolphins fan since 1980 I would totally disagree with Ritchie boy.