What are YOUR QUESTIONS about the shot string? Thanks for watching!

@danieldempsey4149

Жыл бұрын

With all things equal how much does bore size affect the string ? For example do I get better/worse results out of my 10g 3.5" over my 12g 3.5" or a 12g 2 3/4" vs a 20g 2 3/4" of the same/similar load.

@josephmoravec8146

Жыл бұрын

Less of a question and more of an assertion but my guess is that shot string doesn't matter that much due to the overwhelming speed of the shot. Cannot wait to see your data on it!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

@@danieldempsey4149 the long standing recognized theory says that the shot string of a 2 3/4 12ga is shorter than 3 inch and 3 1/2 in 12ga is the longest of the three. In theory your 10ga should've a shorter shot string than the 12ga 3 1/2... We will be looking at some of this to prove or disprove the theory. Thanks!

@LittleC24

Жыл бұрын

You could already calculate this with your data, but I would be interested to hear how much of that shot string would pass/hit a duck flying by. Similar to your ballistic gel test but with the new data. “If a duck is flying 40mph and the first pellet hits the tip of his beak, how many feet of the shot string will impact before the tip of his tail passes?

@Brown-sx8cr

Жыл бұрын

Cameron asks the question as it relates to this video that I asked you last year about leading. A good formula with calculated FPS you should be able to answer. Joel you are the man, this is awesome.

Just some quick calculations. A 6’ shotstring at 600fps requires 0.01 sec to pass the plane of your target (600fps is a typical velocity at 40yds for birdshot). A bird flying at 35mph will travel 6 inches in the time it takes for the shotstring to pass. The same bird will travel about 12 inches in the time it takes a 12 foot shotstring to pass. The longer string MIGHT give you a bit of additional margin for error, but it’s going to be slight and it also will be hitting with the less dense pattern at the trailing end of the string. All things being equal, a shorter string will likely result in fewer cripples.

@catchandeat

Жыл бұрын

This is the comment I was looking for

@beatingsleds

Жыл бұрын

That’s the real question/answer we needed.

@ponce1521

Жыл бұрын

Is the 600fps the speed at which the pellets are traveling at 40 yards? Just wondering. I wouldnt have thought the speed declines that fast. Interesting! Edit: i realize you did say that in your comment! Thanks for that info! Shorter shot string is def the way to go it seems!

@stevenmike1878

Жыл бұрын

thats what my math came out to as a well. ironically for every foot of string on the video would relatively be an inch of bird travel at 40yrds. it seems anything quail or smaller would get a very very small 5-6 inch luck window if you perfectly led the shot far enough. for every shot to fly around the bird. at the tail end of the 12 ft string. at 40 yards.

@CrimeVid

Жыл бұрын

A nasty bit of product placement thar boy !

Dude you’re awesome. Like I mean that, I really appreciate the work AND money you put into this content. You have my “boy admiring a man doing his dream job” type of respect.

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! It's been a ton of work, but it's been a ball!

I am dying to see a pattern master code black duck stack up against other full chokes to see how much shorter (if it is) the shot string is. Keep up the awesome footage and information. This is stuff so many of us have wondered about but never have been able to test

@bluehunter7777777

Жыл бұрын

I have the same questions but with smoke kiks vs factorys choke

@shadyroids

Жыл бұрын

This!!!!

Talk about taking your content to a new level - this is amazing! Your hard work did not go unnoticed and I speak for many waterfowlers when I say we don’t take it for granted. Incredible stuff Joel!

28 gauge.... They have always been known to hit harder than their gauge says... The mystery has always been in the shot string to a lot of people,, I would love to see that.... Great job!

Joel, this brilliant, groundbreaking stuff! You did not disappoint! Can't wait for the next one! I just finished editing a video on the art of shotgunning whose sole conclusion and purpose is to point people to this series. Scheduled to post in 2 weeks! Great job!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

That's great George, thank you!

I stumbled across this video and all I can say is Wow! I really wish some one would do this with different chokes and trap/skeet loads. Thank you for taking the time to make this.

@SurvivingDuckSeason

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Surviving Duck Season, Joel this is getting so intense. And seeing fiocci with such a short shot string. And thinking about it a short shot string means more hitting power on a moving target. I will not miss another video. I am glad to see this historic footage you two are making.

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rick! More hitting power with a short shot string is certainly one theory... we will know very soon which one is a FACT and which "theories" can be called a myth!

I have been shooting guns for about 60 years now and got my first shotgun about 54 years ago. Yes it beat me up, and yes I loved it. Ever since then I have wanted to see what you showed me right here. Thank you so very much for the effort and time it took to make a great video and put to rest the nagging cloud of questions that I only had "a priori" answers to until this morning. So, now what am I supposed to think about . . . . Thanks again!

@archer721

Жыл бұрын

50 years of hunting and shooting… this has answered so many questions I’ve had and been asked over the years… what a fantastic video!

This is a wonderful film clip. Love to see what a 12 gauge trap load does in 7 1/2's and 8's. I like a long shot string on high birds because if you are a tad too far in front of them the back end of the shot string still gets them. That is when you can actually see a time lag between the report of the shotgun going off and the bird actually getting the impact of the shot string. In the video bob aronsohn shoots his 100,000th crow filmed in 2001 you can see live birds getting shot at all different ranges. The last hunt where I shot my 100,000th crow in 28 seasons you can see a 551 bird shoot on crows. If you would like to view this film clip it's on you tube under bob aronsohn shoots his 100,000th crow. The work you have done with this $ 300,000 camera is a real eye opener. Much better than seeing it on a patterning board. It is deceiving looking at pellet holes on paper because not all the shot gets there at once. Your film clip really shows this, a huge bravo to you and your partner doing the filming.

Joel you are a duck hunting hero for this video! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

💪🏻🦸🏼‍♂️👊🏻 lol you’re welcome!!

Boss totally used this video to engineer the new buffered ammo warchief. Excellent video my friend

100% the best KZread Channel! Thanks Joel for going above and beyond for Waterfowlers!

What a great video, no questions just in awe taking it all in. Can’t wait for the next video!

Thank You! This is fascinating, I have shared it with several of my shooting buddies. I appreciate the hard work you have put into this and that you have shared it with us.

You are freaking awesome to put this together. More please more. The steel was crazy tight more on lead is needed for us upland hunters.

The video I’ve been waiting for the most in this series

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

Thanks for putting your time and money into this. Dropping a lot of knowledge bombs in this one!!

Cool ! I was having goosebumps!

Much respect for going through all of this just to help us fellow hunters out mr Strickland!

Thanks for sharing all of this, very interesting stuff. Really appreciate !!!

Remember you hinting about this in a past video. Been excited to see it!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

Holy smokes that was cool!!! I agree, I could watch that all day! The smoke and fire coming out of the barrel and differences in pellet strings was fascinating! Truly groundbreaking stuff! Way to go Joel!

Some really beautiful footage. Thanks for all the effort putting this together.

I have been absolutely fascinated with this whole series. Thank you for the great film work and factual information!!

This series was one of the best I’ve ever watched. Thanks for taking the time to do the research and break everything down. I’m excited to go on my first ever guided hunt next Saturday.

That's amazing content! Thanks for sharing this data for us!

I can hardly wait for the next one , so glad you’re taking the time to research this for all the shotgunners that watch you,THANKS !

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! You're welcome.

Great stuff!!! It must have been a blast collecting all the data. So many variables, so many questions to be answered! Choke size, payload, hull length, velocity....

way too cool. thanks for sharing and taking the time to do this!!!

Joel, spot on work! Had to watch it twice to let it all soak in! I know you’re tossing and turning at night thinking through it all.

This is an awesome series that hopefully will be used for years to come to educate all types of shotgunners. Can't wait to see all the rest of the videos you have in store for us!!!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

More cool and interesting stuff, I guarantee!

Absolutely fascinating. Can't wait to watch the rest.

This is awesome. I shoot a lot of sporting clays and I"m always trying to figure out the variation between 9s and 7.5s and skeet choke vs. IC vs mod. I would love a video on that.

Fascinating stuff!

Great stuff! Loved how the Boss Bismuth appeared to fragment when shot through the turkey choke - many of the trailing pellets were twinkling like stardust, indicating irregular surfaces from the broken pellets. It was also very interesting seeing how the duplex loads separated in flight. Keep it coming!

Great information thanks for the video. Never knew that shot strings were that long/short, amazing... Great Info... Would love to see the length of shot strings with target loads for like trap loads. I shoot a lot of trap it would be so helpful to know the shot string on them loads and different chokes...

Outstanding video. It would be awesome to get different extended choke tubes and ammo from all sizes for waterfowl and see what they do in flight. This would definitely tell if your choke tubes are actually doing what they are supposed to be doing for distance and shot pattern.

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Thanks... good suggestion! Be watching!

This was absolutely the coolest video I have ever watched!

Outstanding

That's so cool man thanks for this exciting video

This video gives me strong Mythbusters vibes and I’m all about it! Super informative, can’t wait to see the next part

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Best shotsell video EVER! Hands Down!!! Great Job JOEL!!!!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Haha! 🙌🏻 Thanks Tim! I appreciate you.

Love this video. This is a dream come true.

Great video. I'm always calculating my leads and patterns with different loads and shot drag and now you throw in shot string. It can be complicated but fun to think about.

That was truly fascinating. Thank you.

One of the coolest videos I've seen , something for everyone, you got , it all. Great photogaphs

I want to come sit with my feet up on the desk and watch all the raw footage....WOW!!! The muzzle shots are just plain awesome!!!! Interesting so far for sure! Can't wait for the next one.

Love this , some fantastic images and I love how it just opens up more questions. Will be good to see how different forcing cones work too. That Boss shorty looks great .

Extremely informative! As someone who has been wingshooting for 40 years, I have always wondered about shot string and never new any real facts about it, only guesses. Thanks for putting so much time and technology into this subject!

Thank you for your many hours and $ put into this research. My experience has been that deep, thoughtful research usually exposes more questions than it answers initially. Years ago I participated in 2 duck seasons of steel shot vs lead shot study, where the hunter didn't know which he was shooting. A Federal game biologist/technician monitored approximate distances, clear misses, clean kills, and cripples, along with wind and weather. Steel sheels were crude, using shell componets (wad cups) made for lead. Choke tubes were still in the future. Most smooth bores were Modified or Full choke. It became obvious that steel produced more cripples, (and the need for a dog) but it was here to stay. Over the years the ammo makers improved steel shells. For a multitude of reasons, ammo (at least where I am) has been in short supply the last 2-3 years. so I shoot whatever I can find. A box of 3inch, 1-1/4 ounce can be $17 or $35. My own research has convinced me that practice and gun discipline improves my success rate. When the pattern and the duck collides, my limits improve. Your research will surely help choke and ammo manufacturers improve their products and their bottom lines, but I can bet you that their marketing campaigns are already in overdrive. Great video!

The Teaser you showed me this Summer doesn't compare to how cool it looks with all the types and distances! Wow. Thank you for you work and dedication!!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh, yeah pretty incredible to see it!

Love it. Period.

Appreciate all your time you're putting into this it's very interesting

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!

I'm in awe

Already pumped to see the next video!

Great stuff 👏 👍 With my 4 decades of shotgun experience I believe that the wad is the deciding factor in which way the shot "cloud" patterns.

So cool

this is amazing!

Awesome keep up the great work mate thanks

That is the coolest thing I have seen

Great work! Thank you.

Been waiting on this one!!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

Really cool video thanks for all the job done

I definitely want to see the shotstring of non constriction choke tubes like Patternmaster.

Spot on and eye opening. We use fiocci cartridges in 1 1/8 oz 6's for pigeons, crows a squirrels over here in England - always knew they were good. Also having seen some of the steel loads: that is why we only use them on ducks AND geese. New we were right all a long. Looking forward to the next videos.

Deff a very cool video. One of the best shotgun videosin a whiel i have seen.

Brand new duck hunter here and have been binging your videos. Thanks for all the help and keep the awesome videos coming!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Great Dylan! Welcome to the brotherhood 👍🏻👊🏻💪🏻

Super cool stuff. I'll be looking forward to videos down the road examining trap loads for all the clay shooters out there like me. I am now a subscriber!😀

Epic!

This guy is the most likeable, friendly duck hunter on the planet :) Intelligent, analytical and articulate too. Good on you, brother!

This is the best and most interesting video on this topic I've ever seen. Can't wait to see more... great concept Joel.. God Bless

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

Excellent Excellent work. I had no idea the shot stream was that long. TY

Always been curious, glad you are taking this on

This is so cool loving your shotgunning series

This is by far the best demonstration, I have ever seen. Great 👍👌👍

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

This is great. I would love to see brand comparisons of 3.5" BB, then with different chokes. There's so many videos you could make on this topic to suit all types of shotgun hunting. Thanks for the work you're doing!

This is some ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC information that I’ve never seen anywhere else! “Mind blown 🤯” great video of amazing content and a TON of information for new thought patterns…🤔 - I’m sending links to everyone I know that shotguns! - mad respect! Thank you for this information!!!

Thank you for all the work you put into this series. As a new duck hunter, it has been extremely helpful.

Joel thank you, Your content is amazing, your research is going to save hard working folk’s time and money. Cant wait to see that Mountain Dew can blow up!!

Looking forward to seeing more of this! I would love to see it with common waterfowl chokes !

Very very cool......!

Excellent video. Well done Sir 👏

Great video. I have always wondered about shot string after shooting birds and clays for 45 years.

Excellent work, the Best I have ever seen. For a cross moving Target the shot string creates a oval shaped pattern.

I’m always told I over analyze shot loads, velocities. Ok now I’m not alone. Very well done. The technology of today is appreciated. I once set up a spinning disc of paper and measured the string. That is way back in my memory but I think our results were similar. Nice work.

Hilarious opening segment, but , true , two thumbs up , thanks for the info

This was very informative to say the least!

Just an awesome video! I watched it 3 times! Fascinating stuff, so much data, so many more questions! You should send this to the ammo companies, maybe they will hire you for R&D so they can improve their products! Cant wait to watch the rest of this series!

Well done guys

awesome video so cool!

great video ! Thank YOU ! ! ! !

New to duck hunting this year! Your videos are great for me! Thank you and keep them coming

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying!

Love to see different clay target loads demonstrated like this.

Nice video, love High N Dry waders!

Very interesting!! Thanks for your time

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Amazing work..! I absolutely love this series.!

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Glad you're enjoying.

Without a doubt the best information I have seen or heard since Bob Brister's book. All the rest do not address the shot string which is too inportent to ignore. Thanks for sharing your information and hard work. Old Louisiana duck hunter and dreamer.

@SurvivingDuckSeason

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Dude, your show's writing is amazing.