This is a tough one!The Daeodons jaws could deal a fight ending injury at any time but the bears bite or swipe could probably snap the Daeodons leg in half.

As powerful as bears are, they do tend to struggle with large hefty beasts like bison and so try to control the head and back. The issue here is Daeodon's powerful jaws could likely crush the limbs of the bear if given any opportunity. As for the intelligence, that is a good point, but sometimes aggression and strength overcome this. See multiple encounters between moose/bison and bears. The bear's best bet is to try snapping the entelodont's neck, but the hungry hungry hippo has pulverizing jaws that make attacking the front very dangerous. However, I have seen videos of bears attacking animals like pigs and cattle from behind, pinning them and attacking their spines. That could favor the bear, but that would be hard to land. I favor Daeodon just because its massive head and jaws should counter against most of a bear's normal tricks.

@cringecringe4342

5 ай бұрын

I think if the bear is able to get behind the hell pig it will always win. My reasoning is the hell pig probably would not be able to shake it off and the beat could just swipe at its legs instuff

@trvth1s

5 ай бұрын

@@cringecringe4342 The issue is the daeodon isnt allowing the bear to just get behind it, the hell pig would be ready for a frontal attack. I believe the bear standing on 2 legs would intimidate the hell pig off meals. But if both animals are desperate or in musk and territorial the hell pigs jaw is too powerful, it will not just let the bear get behind it.

I already said this, but Megistotherium vs Barinasuchus is a battle that I really want to see more people talk about.

@kilianteni7884

9 ай бұрын

Barina is twice the size of Megis

@Julian.noa21

9 ай бұрын

@@kilianteni7884 size isn't everything

@kilianteni7884

8 ай бұрын

@@Julian.noa21 Barinasuchus has a higher biteforce is stronger more durable and size matters

@Julian.noa21

8 ай бұрын

@@kilianteni7884 yeah i know

@jointcerulean3350

8 ай бұрын

Also quinkana vs megalania

It's a versus I never thought I'd see

This really is an interesting matchup, personally I believe the Arctodus would be victorious due to it's higher intelligence as well as it's more diverse fighting experience due to the prey and predators they would have lived with. The Daeodon seems like an opponent that would be very head strong and try to rush at the Bear similarly to how most large herbivores with front heavy weaponry are, which I think the Bear would bait out in order to deal heavy blows that the less agile Daeodon wouldn't be able to react to in time. It'd definitely be close but I do see the Arctodus coming out the victor more often than the Daeodon, but I could definitely see a scenario where both sustain mortal wounds that neither would survive from long term.

Could you do Barinasuchus vs terrestrial mammalian carnivores or Sarcosuchus vs Suchomimus next?

@Julian.noah2

9 ай бұрын

Barinasuchus vs andrewsarchus would be an interesting battle

@frost7463

9 ай бұрын

@@Julian.noah2 I’d give the edge to the croc but andrewsarchus is far from an easy opponent tbh. I just want to see the general consensus because imo Barinasuchus is the king of Cenozoic land predators. It and Dentaneosuchus.

@Doctor_Morgan_X_Asakura_Rikako

9 ай бұрын

​@@frost7463 Barinasuchus (Cenozoic) "_Versus_" Fasolasuchus (Triassic) Rhamphosuchus (Cenozoic) "_Versus_" Sarcosuchus (Cretaceous)

@akashselvam

9 ай бұрын

Size isn't everything

@frost7463

9 ай бұрын

@@Doctor_Morgan_X_Asakura_Rikako imo fasola and sarco take the w's because they are larger, more robust, and have more powerful jaws though barina estimates do go as high as 2 tonnes so it may be able to beat fasola.

Deaodon is more closely related to hippos and whales and the South American short-faced bear is larger than the giant North American short-faced bear.

Nice match up and information 🙂👍

Would this outcome be the same if you were talking about Arctotherium as opposed to Artodus since it was officially the largest bear to ever exist but found in South America as opposed to North America?

@TheOverseerDebates

9 ай бұрын

Good question! I think that if we use the largest estimates of Arctotherium then it would come out as the winner

I hate the nickname "hell pig" for Daeodon as it has led artists to erroneously make it look pig-like and causes the the general public to imagine pig-like behavior.

This was great! Please more! Could you do anteosaurus vs Andrewsarcus?

Grizzlies can hunt Bison, which are similarly dangerous on the front end & with similar proportions in their builds. Bear pelt is also made to be highly puncture resistant, reducing the severity of Daedon's crushing jaws, albeit not completely. In a straight-up fight I think the Daedon would probably severely wound the Bear & drive it off, but in the wild Arctodus could use the exact same tactics it instinctively used to bring down Bison to regularly hunt the Daedon.

@sbird8675

8 ай бұрын

The bear's pelt could protect it from the bite of a wolf or lion, but daedon's jaws could easily crush bone- meaning that even if the pelt wasn't broken through, the bear would suffer severe internal injuries.

@tAgJaCk3D

5 ай бұрын

That is a good guess, but Daeodon's jaws and skull are much more like that of a hippo than of a bison, so I think the tactic wouldn't be nearly as effective as he could threaten it back with a fatal/dismembering bite

Neat, the Hell Pig won eventhough 80% of people voted for the Bear. LETS GO!!

@TheOverseerDebates

9 ай бұрын

I was quite surprised so many people underestimated the Daeodon

@antonioriveiros

9 ай бұрын

@@TheOverseerDebates Maybe cause theres more info about the Bear, as well as itself being very similar to modern known bears which are seen as very strong, then there is for the Daeodon. I mean, people are still surprised its closer to the hippo than to pigs.

Cool video. Im betting on the bear, but it would be really close. If Daeodons skull can survive a swipe from the bear then its a lot more even.

Ngl I feel like all Daeodon faces are shrink-wrapped in models & pictures

Entelodonts never existed during the Pleistocene, they went extinct before the Pleistocene ever started.

I’d love to see a battle for who is the most powerful synapsid land predator.

Both are powerhouses, it’ll come down to who has a better combination of agility and speed with power

honestly I would say that with the skillset on both animals and their sort of build/adaptations that it could be more of an even match, but that due to the hell pig's ability to bite straight at the short-faced bear's gut if the bear chose to try intimidation, I think the hell pig definitely would have a greater chance of at least taking further advantage of the bear's weaknesses while the bear could have trouble going around the hell pig's sturdy jaws

How i see it: if the daedon can severly damage the short-faced bear with one bite then the daedon wins, if not then the bear can get close and wrestle it to the ground and its game over for the daedon. Next versus: komodo dragon vs grizzly bear.

3:27 the Agriotherium Africanum was, as its name indicate, from Africa (there are other Agriotherium subspecies). An A. Simus relative from South America was the Arctotherium Angustidens, which was bigger than the Arctodus Simus. About the knock the head off of a moose by grizzlies, I read in some forum a supposed piece of a paper or book that said that 1-a biologist couldn't believe it until he saw it, 2-the same biologist noticed that the attachment of the head of a moose is extremely weak. Now it didn't say what was the exact subspecies, as north Americans tend to call "grizzly" to any American brown bear, when there are some variants that differ in size, and the one that should be called "grizzly" due to its grizzled coat is the smallest, the interior north American brown bear (Ursus Arctos Horriblis). Then there are a lot of videos of grizzly bears hitting with their paws at other animals, especially at wolves, and in not one of those videos saw any damage or even the slightest effect on the wolf, apart from a short lived psychological one...The only video I saw any effect was in a fight between two American coastal brown bears in which one swipe at the other and clawing at the same time, from behind, in the back, damaging the skin, letting a piece hanging, but that was a swipe with clawing and only damaged the skin. Then there are a lot of videos of brown bears hunting/killing and there is no one in which their swipes do anything other than get the paws in place for grabbing or clawing or pushing. What stands out from brown bears is the stamina, the way they use their weight for controlling an animal, their use of wrestling when fighting with each other, their ferocity for their size, their ability to quickly do damage to dogs (when the bears are wild ones and not those declawed, defanged, emaciated and tortured, tied to a post ones) but only when they get a hold of them, not by striking them, that, evidently, does nothing. Now, there could be a difference between a strike when at four legs, slightly on two or fully on two, and that is missing in videos.

Small nitpick: You use the terms ancestor when referring to the Arctotherium and Hippopotamus for the Arctodus and Daeodon. They are not these amimals ancestors because they did not evolve *from* them, they are relatives.

Could you imagine the sounds you would hear when those two fought , deep bellowing roars that would be deafening, high pitched squeals and snorting, sound of bones crunching or ripping sounds as they tore into each other, I believe the bear would win because it has more weapons that the pig, the bear has teeth, claws and a thick pelt and a thick muscular body that offers a lot of resistance to puncture by fangs of other animals ,while the pig only has its massive jaws that could only deliver real damage with some type of crushing injury to the bear maybe getting a good bite on the bears arm or leg to cripple it , probably the ideal move would be if the Pig managed to grab the bears whole head or neck in its jaws and deal a death blow but I think the bear is too agile and smart to allow that to happen, I think the bear would dispatch the pig by swatting at the pigs head every time it came close and simply beat it to death

How about Arctotherium Augustus (largest species of short faced bear)

My farthers friend has a pig that is claimed to weigh a 1800 pounds

cool

It’s like the red vs spino, a general war machine vs a specialized biting monstrosity

Bed-bound currently, your channel is making it far more….bearable 🥁!

Meanwhile Arctotherium be waiting on the sidelines ready to smack the head off the winner.

The bear, because of the speed, claws and brainpower.

Bears tend to use those massive paws and claws to box, especially with each other. The hellpig didn't have an answer for that, which is why I think it would have lost.

Bear has only one winning strategy: Attack from behind the Daedon and damage it's spine and hold on as the thrashing Hell Pig bleeds to death. Very Unlikely.

I've a question, who would win Deinocheirus or Acrocanthosaurus?

@GojiraTheGoat

4 ай бұрын

Deinocheirus

That Bear seems to have a very short face.

Why Arctodus simus looks more "skinny" despite his high Wight? The Mass in Mammals is more redistribuited than Reptiles, but moden Bears are smaller and less massive, but they look more robust. I am referring to Look, do not misinterprate me please.

What about around 2? Arctotherium.

If the bear can avoid the jaws and grapple, the bear wins. Also, judging by the huge swiping power of today’s Grizzly, the short faced bear must have been exponentially more powerful and this may have been a factor which may give the bear a win…. either way, a very difficult call.

Grizzlies can’t knock the head off a moose that’s a made up story.

Hellcat vs Hellpig who will win?

Out competed is different from an actual fight one on one.

What if it was arctotherium vs the hell pig?

👍👍👍

Daeodon is what you get when you give a herbivore build the weapons of a carnivore

how do you think arctotherium fair as it was far bigger then arctodus at 1,670 kilos

I wonder who would win a spotted hyena vs a beardog

Can you do titanis vs deinonychus

@kilianteni7884

9 ай бұрын

funkei got downsized to 8 tons basilo slams

@Julian.noa21

9 ай бұрын

​​@@kilianteni7884 oh so how about titanis vs deinonychus

@kilianteni7884

8 ай бұрын

@@Julian.noa21 Probably Titanis he's bigger and his beak can deal a lot of damage.

@Julian.noa21

8 ай бұрын

@@kilianteni7884 well i can't think of any other matchups

@kilianteni7884

8 ай бұрын

@@Julian.noa21 Gray whale vs Otodus Chubutensis would be interesting.

A battle to the death with both contestants aiming to kill each other? It’s Daeodon. But in real life context? The winner would be the Arctodus. It would probably intimidate the Daeodon since the Hell Pig was outcompeted by smaller predators than itself. If it found itself facing up something that can stand to 3 meters, it’s lower intelligence would basically cause it to be more fearful of the Bear.

The idea bear-dogs wiped out Daeodon is questionable, and to make matters worse, bear-dogs were actually LESS cursorial than entelodonts (relatively shorter and stockier legs, and plantigrade to semidigitigrade while entelodonts were fully unguligrade), not more as the idea falsely assumed. The entelodont actually has the mobility advantage here.

Just to point something out, it's pretty unlikely that the short face bear would've been fast, bears tend to have fossils that make them seem like they're skinny, when the reality is different.

*Cenozoic. Also Barinasuchus and Paraentelodon say hi

Deodon could prob give a painful kick too.

Who Are Ruler In The River Of Southeast Asias~?! Siamosaurus (Thai) Or Ichthyovenator (Laos)

I don't think the hell pig really hunted anytime

Daedon is a Land Hippo that eats Meat.

I say this fight will be super close, but the bear will have to do more to win as apposed to the hog that can simply land a fatal bite.

Hippos are dumb -- but NOBODY short of an elephant fs with a hippo. This fight would never take place as the bear would (wisely) suddenly remember a pre=existing appointment.

Paraentelodon was larger I think.

I'd lean with the bear. I think that the hell pig would come straight ahead, just like I've seen boars and warthogs do and the bear would swipe at the sides of it's head, and a swipe may not break the pig's neck or crush it's skull but it should knock it's head to the side, after which the bear attacks the top of the pig's head and neck, grappling with it's front paws, and pressing it's weight down on the hell pig to keep it's head down and mouth pointed away from the bear's body. If it can't deliver a lethal bite here, it may cause the hell pig to fall over, where it can attack the pig's underside before the hell pig can get upright again.

@ramibekk2955

3 ай бұрын

daeodon isnt even related to pigs pigs also tend to hold there own pretty well against bears

@22steve5150

3 ай бұрын

@@ramibekk2955 it's body type is similar to boars so I expect it to move like a boar and I expect an animal that moves like a boar and is similarly armed with tusks and sharp teeth to attack like a boar. I expect the bear to be likely to defeat an opponent of that size and body type who moves that way.

@ramibekk2955

3 ай бұрын

@@22steve5150 boars are known to hold there own quite well against bear also why would you think a bear would defeat an animal with that body type bear cant try to grapple deodon without risking being bitten

@22steve5150

3 ай бұрын

@@ramibekk2955 first of all I'm aware of a grand total of one instance where a feral boar is believed to have killed a black bear, and black bears are nothing like brown or polar bears, not in build or attitude or relative strength and ferocity. And what a bear has is lateral quickness (that means a good chance to dodge a charge) and a paw swipe that can kill most things. What i expect is the bear will use a paw swipe to knock the other down, then go on the attack while it tries to regain it's footing.

@ramibekk2955

3 ай бұрын

@@22steve5150 first : black bear are the exat same thing as grizzly bears and are actually stronger then polar bears pound for pound and ussuri wild boars are known to go toe to toe with ussuri brown bears there is even videos of it the bear isnt even that fast and also the bear will need AT LEAST dozens of paw swips to kill the boar and also bears dont really paw swip that often

Barianasuckus protiv megalanio je odlicna borba.

I think that if bear manish to ambush daedon it could win bcs if bike it back or hit daedon's back legs. If grizzly are caipuble to kill moose at 1 swing i dont see why arctodus cant brake daedon's legs or it lower back. Like i said this could work but only if bear manish to ambush daedon or bait it and then strike behind

The bear has much better agility and has arms which can grapple and manipulate the prey to their need. Their huge paws have claws with tremendous force behind them. The bear also has alot of fur and loose skin making it hard to penetrate. They have the ability to stand on two legs which is a huge advantage. Bears today are known to take down wild boars simular to their own size. Leopards, jags, pumas, black- and brownbears take down wild boars equal to their size. Lions kill hippos their size. Tigers kills crocodiles and so on. Altough the daeodon had a big mouth, it wouldnt say much in a fight. It need other ways to defend it self. Their big neck would actually work against it when their ability to turn their head is difficult. The big mouth helps, but isnt the winning factor here. The daeodons tight skin would get ripped apart fast from the bears claws and teeth. It would struggle to turn if the bears get a hold of its side or back due to its anatomy. Their legs had hoof like feet and low flexibility. They become useless in this fight. If it falls its done. If the bears fall it would most likely get up. Other than a big mouth, the daeodon has no advantages. This fight isnt so close many here thinks. The bear would probably always win this fight.

I think the piggy would win in a straight-up fight, but they went extinct not from being unable to fight, but they are TOO specialized to maul and kill. What good is being a T-rex when you are in the alps, where everything is small and not worth it. To make things worse, there is a smaller, smarter competitor that regurlarly eats what it hunts before you have time to catch up to it (to bully it off), and regurlarly HUNTS you from time to time if it's timed right. In a long game of survival, the bear easily wins. In a short fight, pig wins.

Ok, the if your pictures were the accurate size of the bear, then the cave bear was FAR larger, being nine feet on all fours.

It’s neither. Megalania is clearly the winner. *Reptile Supremacy.* 🦎

Bear all day. The hell pig lost to large canines and big cats. The short faced bear evolved to beat said canines and big cats.

Strengh short facebear Durability deodon Speed deodon Agility short face bear Claw short face bear Force bite deodon Teeth deodon Iq short face bear Battle iq short face bear I think short face bear can win if he take down the deodon have no chance to stand up and the short face bear have more experience to battle against saberthooth and direwolf and american lion and with bison and mammouth and great sloth deodon kill only a smaller animal

Personally I don't think it'd be more than medium difficulty. Daeodon were just too big for them, they're used to taking down alot smaller prey, and certainly not those that have huge mouths/teeth like that and can actually kill them.

@slappy8941

8 ай бұрын

"A lot" is two words.

@colecampbell1906

8 ай бұрын

@@slappy8941 nobody gives a shit

@BD-jn5dn

5 ай бұрын

You're dumb. Bear wins 9/10

Imagine going camping in the woods during those daunty days.

I say pig holds the win. The pigs mouth could out pig the short faced bear. Like a hippo vs a lion. 1 on 1 the lion will loose.😮 A bear has issue with 🫎 But remember the moose does not bite or out bite the bear. Like the moose the pig can ram and stomp. If they were smaller the bear could maybe win. But they are gigantic. The old saying plays role here. The bigger they are the harder they fall.😂😅🎉

Nah, you disregaurd the bears skin and fur vs smooth skin. The bear bleeds it out after the first few exchanges and wins. Bears ARE tanks. Also watch a bear kill a full grown moose and tell me that bears losing to a pig that can only bite lmfao.

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You are always wrong

You're tarded man. Short faced bear wins 9/10

This channel is an L, this guy has never really looked into the grappler effect animals across the board use today to take out much larger opponents or never been in a martial arts gym where grappling of some kind is done. What does the hell pig do if (more like when) the bear get past its jaws and gets to its side….nothing it flails around until it gets exhausted and dies.

@ramibekk2955

3 ай бұрын

i knew u dont know anything when you called a hippo relative a pig

@crisitansardina9595

3 ай бұрын

@@ramibekk2955 it’s commonly called hell pig lmfao that has nothing to do with my argument. Also it isn’t even that related to hippos so even by your own logic you are wrong.

@ramibekk2955

3 ай бұрын

@@crisitansardina9595 lmfao u could at least mention it also bears are not even good grapplers there claws are not like big ats claws they cant grappler an animal like deodon bite force can one shot

@crisitansardina9595

3 ай бұрын

@@ramibekk2955 yea that’s just not true but ok.

@ramibekk2955

3 ай бұрын

@@crisitansardina9595 lmao saying stuff without any proof ? bears claws are weak compared to big cats its common facts