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Watch the full interview on my new Heretics channel: • The Tragic Loss of Gen... .
Nina Power is social theorist, philosopher and author who wrote What Do Men Want to find out how dark it is to be a man and the masculinity crisis. We discuss Russell Brand, toxic femininity, incels (involuntary celibates) and how a lot of incel language was mistakenly stolen from chimpanzees dynamics. Most of all, we talk about what it is to be a heretic, and how some of woke culture is like a death cult.
This was filmed at the Battle of Ideas: www.battleofideas.org.uk/
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  • @AndrewGold1
    @AndrewGold16 ай бұрын

    Watch the full interview on my new Heretics channel: kzread.info/dash/bejne/goqCmrObadiwktI.html.

  • @paulmccracken1038

    @paulmccracken1038

    6 ай бұрын

    Are You still on Locals channel?

  • @andrewgoldheretics

    @andrewgoldheretics

    6 ай бұрын

    yep! i haven't posted much this week because been on a trip to Argentina, but will do later today!@@paulmccracken1038

  • @andrewgoldheretics

    @andrewgoldheretics

    6 ай бұрын

    Here's my commenting from that channel.

  • @dharmafolks4554

    @dharmafolks4554

    6 ай бұрын

    you should also cover diddy & cassie, would love to hear your take on it

  • @JJvisit
    @JJvisit6 ай бұрын

    Why does she keep talking about the nineties?! The RB r*pe allegations are from 2012. V.frustrating.

  • @lisaziazan1719
    @lisaziazan17196 ай бұрын

    This interview was not very good. She kept talking about the 90's when referring to Russell Brands behaviour, the allegations go up to 2012. As a journalist shouldn't you have fact checked her on this. Also her dissmissive attitude towards the allegations which include rape. Rape is criminal violence not promiscuous sexual behaviour. Also on her attitude to the 16 year old girl, we know that developmentally adolescents brains are not adult brains and that is why having sex with an adolescent is not appropriate for 30 year olds. I believe this is true regardless of gender. It was inappropriate for a 32 year old woman to have sex with a 17 year old Harry Styles.

  • @BurrosSWE

    @BurrosSWE

    6 ай бұрын

    First accuser was in 1998. Due to statue of limitations none of this is criminal so the one who should do basic research is you.

  • @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah. This woman is awful. She's defending rape culture and victim blaming to the max. Can't get more toxic than this person's take on the allegations against Russell Brand.

  • @BurrosSWE

    @BurrosSWE

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-yc9vx3nz5z Working hard i see shill. A metoo culture is the complete opposite of rape culture so welcome to the world. Just stop lying.

  • @ksmax6310

    @ksmax6310

    3 ай бұрын

    It is an not proven, not saying it did not happen however its an allegation. Innocent until proven guilty. You mention it as she should know he is guilty of a crime, she does not. She does however know he is guilty of bad sleazy behaviour - but that's different.

  • @generaljo78
    @generaljo786 ай бұрын

    I’m really interested to know her background and what era she grew up in?? Am I the only one that feels her sentiments of girls in their youth are actually quite naive? I feel like it’s speaking on behalf of women without understanding that many of us weren’t sexually active at such a young age? Not to mention the reality of watching far too many young girls coaxed by young adults.

  • @kidkanoo

    @kidkanoo

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree this woman is talking crap! I only listened in for 4.5 minutes and now I’m going. Sick of women defending men’s behaviour and then saying maybe a 16 year old in the 90’s would have been savvy? Doesn’t matter what freaking decade it is a humans brain doesn’t stop growing until their 25 years of age and that is why teenagers make terrible decisions and life choices.

  • @BurrosSWE

    @BurrosSWE

    6 ай бұрын

    What are you talking about? This girl was obviously having sex.

  • @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree and will go further that this woman is straight up delusional and defending rape culture. There is no culture where a 16 year old girl has more power than a man in his 30s who is a rich celebrity and somehow would find sex with that man no abusive.

  • @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    6 ай бұрын

    I would say that she grew up in the era of "she hates women" and "she wants to be on Russell Brand's show".

  • @generaljo78

    @generaljo78

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-yc9vx3nz5z haha fair one.

  • @groverhateselmo
    @groverhateselmo6 ай бұрын

    Why does she keep talking about “the 90s”? Brands alleged crimes all happened post 2005

  • @Drteomas

    @Drteomas

    6 ай бұрын

    Because that's when he was enabled to openly be toxic.

  • @polar199

    @polar199

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Drteomasyep and it explains the zeitgeist.

  • @tinaschultz9371

    @tinaschultz9371

    6 ай бұрын

    Because when the clock struck twelve on new years 2000 everything suddenly changed 🙄

  • @DarkFruit

    @DarkFruit

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Drteomas He was all through the 00's too though, it's a good point, this was more recent than 90's.

  • @leftofcentrebrexit1546

    @leftofcentrebrexit1546

    4 ай бұрын

    Not so bright?

  • @DeepThought42
    @DeepThought426 ай бұрын

    Why didn't you correct her about the decade? She kept referring to the 90s when everything he's accused of happened after that in the 2000s and even 2010s - when things were different to the 90s.

  • @hanwirtz4305

    @hanwirtz4305

    5 ай бұрын

    I think he got applauded in the 90s and got away with his bad behaviour in the 2000s.

  • @boorhaave5880

    @boorhaave5880

    4 ай бұрын

    Plus Andrew Gold, like alot of these YT interviewers, doesn't know what he's talking about

  • @ErinAbou

    @ErinAbou

    Ай бұрын

    The bad behavior would have begun during the 90s, continuing into the 2000s and 2010s. I think both men and women engage in this type of behavior, but in this day and age, it’s understood that it’s not now, nor was it ever acceptable behavior.

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason37406 ай бұрын

    I neither laughed nor clapped for Russell in the 2000s. I find his particular brand of narcissism repugnant. When he came to L.A. (Get Him to the Greek) I shuddered.

  • @joshb7326

    @joshb7326

    6 ай бұрын

    Same here, I agree. I grew up watching him on TV in the height of it and I never really understand why he was popular cus I thought he was a clown

  • @Drteomas

    @Drteomas

    6 ай бұрын

    Same. When toxic people are trying to be funny they are masking the toxicity and so many people fell for it.

  • @pollyparrot9447

    @pollyparrot9447

    6 ай бұрын

    I didn't really know who he was and tended to confuse him with the late Rick Mayall. From what I'm hearing now, I owe Rick Mayall a big apology.

  • @dennismason3740

    @dennismason3740

    6 ай бұрын

    @@pollyparrot9447 - as Rik (no "c") is now non-physical he laughs and accepts your apology.

  • @TheAllyathome

    @TheAllyathome

    6 ай бұрын

    But many did! It’s like today not everyone is into the pronoun thing, but that doesn’t mean many arent. I saw him as a reflection of alit of the party ppl around me. Wasn’t either into him or not, but one of my best friends loved him. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I thought this lady was spot on really enjoyed her insights.

  • @arsonfly
    @arsonfly6 ай бұрын

    Russell was worse than the people around him. You can't blame the culture.

  • @user-cr3pj2nr4e

    @user-cr3pj2nr4e

    6 ай бұрын

    Cuz it's ez to blame, it's like a rain or wind, no personality. "It was normal to fk a pie back then" no, it never was, but it was easy to get off for some people.

  • @joshb7326

    @joshb7326

    6 ай бұрын

    Perhaps they defend him because a lot of ppl were also engaging in that toxic culture, or maybe because ppl feel guilty or ashamed that they were a fan of him or had a crush on him so it makes them feel better defending him. Personally I never liked him and I cringed at his behaviour even back then

  • @marcdraco2189

    @marcdraco2189

    6 ай бұрын

    @@joshb7326many women threw themselves at him - and he kept pushing the envelope. But did he tear holes in it? For me, absolutely he did.

  • @joshb7326

    @joshb7326

    6 ай бұрын

    @@marcdraco2189 Yes I agree

  • @LouisMenotti

    @LouisMenotti

    6 ай бұрын

    How can you even know that?

  • @CharlotteNiceAndNot
    @CharlotteNiceAndNot6 ай бұрын

    What an odd interview! She's completely off, so old-fashioned in opinions they are old nomatter what decade we're talking about! Awful, just awful! Blaming the women, the girls..., just odd 😣

  • @ErnestPiffel

    @ErnestPiffel

    6 ай бұрын

    The cross around her neck might be a clue. I’m surprised she didn’t bring up the ol’ “she was wearing a short skirt, so was begging for it”

  • @CharlotteNiceAndNot

    @CharlotteNiceAndNot

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ErnestPiffel Yes 👍, but she kind of did... between the lines! Worthless and an insult to both women (like they inherently are sluts) and men (like they can't help/control themselves and therefore haven't any responsibility, like small children)!

  • @pollyparrot9447

    @pollyparrot9447

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ErnestPiffel Is it a cross? It looks like an ankh to me. Could be a Coptic cross, I suppose.

  • @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    6 ай бұрын

    100%. She's literally talking like a grandmother who's upset that rape is being brought up because being date raped was a right of passage for young women "back in her day".

  • @pollyparrot9447

    @pollyparrot9447

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-yc9vx3nz5z Rite of passage. I don't think anyone is claiming the right to be raped.

  • @joshb7326
    @joshb73266 ай бұрын

    This is such a naive take. I was a kid when all this was happening, I never liked him, I never thought he was doing something moral or ethical or cool

  • @nealm6764

    @nealm6764

    6 ай бұрын

    I felt the same, but we don't exactly set cultural or celebrity standards, do we? Every time he acted out and then got more acting or talk show gigs, his behavior was being condoned and rewarded, don't you think?

  • @tamarasilver8764

    @tamarasilver8764

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nealm6764 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @joshb7326

    @joshb7326

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nealm6764 He can always use the excuse of having a crappy childhood and being an addict or being enabled, but I know great ppl that grew up with nothing. He knew he treated other ppl appallingly, he even admitted it, he just couldn't stop himself which is no excuse at all

  • @tammyboon6259

    @tammyboon6259

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@joshb7326EXACTLY!!!!

  • @tammyboon6259

    @tammyboon6259

    6 ай бұрын

    I actually hate it when Andrew says, "We enabled him by laughing at his perverted ways!!!" a) That's assuming everyone LOVED & LISTENED to Russell Brand!!!! (b) I think that Andrew should be saying, "We who 'followed him'!!! c) And also make sure the distinction is made, that a person's upbringing is NOT an excuse or a person isn't necessarily destined or doomed to be certain way!!!! (d) I just have NOT ever found Russell Brand to be authentic!!!! (I think he thrives or gets off on being controversial!!! I question if he really believes what he's selling!!!!) Other than selling himself!!! He just always comes across as a NARCISSIST or has a DEFINITE SAVIOUR COMPLEX!!!!! That he's the ONE who only truly KNOWS the truth!!!!

  • @catwo6477
    @catwo64776 ай бұрын

    she has no idea about people with personality disorders!

  • @askelephant9257

    @askelephant9257

    6 ай бұрын

    And that’s disorder too

  • @ItsAllBeenDecided

    @ItsAllBeenDecided

    6 ай бұрын

    True, that didn't even come up. Brand is a prime example of NPD.

  • @Drteomas

    @Drteomas

    6 ай бұрын

    Like most people. If you know better it's probably because you have one.

  • @DavidHernandez-oz4me
    @DavidHernandez-oz4me6 ай бұрын

    Yeah she can defend "the 90s culture" until someone abuses her own daughter

  • @JacquiBerry-gd7rr
    @JacquiBerry-gd7rr6 ай бұрын

    Elvis Presley had power over 14 year old girls

  • @ladymary22

    @ladymary22

    6 ай бұрын

    Many rock stars did. Presley and Brand were not unusual. It is more of a power thing

  • @ErnestPiffel

    @ErnestPiffel

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ladymary22you can call it ‘power’ but it was always abuse. And the perps knew it or it wouldn’t be kept hidden.

  • @ErnestPiffel

    @ErnestPiffel

    6 ай бұрын

    Wtf is she talking about? If kids want to experiment with each other that is fine. Exploited by someone older, stronger is quite another.

  • @Drteomas

    @Drteomas

    6 ай бұрын

    He had a tiny penis though.

  • @THEpopelonergan
    @THEpopelonergan6 ай бұрын

    Russell Brand wasn’t a public figure in the 90s? If she’s going to talk authoritatively on this, she could at least get the most basic facts correct. There were different cultural mores from 2006 - 2014 onwards (when Brand was in the spotlight) compared to the 90s. It’s so frustrating that she repeatedly gets the decade wrong. Jesus.

  • @juliana.x0x0
    @juliana.x0x06 ай бұрын

    The power imbalance when there is an older, attractive, famous and powerful man, and a young woman who is easily influenced and wanting to be seen as more grown up and mature cannot be overstated. Additionally, I think one of, if not the most important factor, is the issue of narcissistic abuse, and how that affects a dynamic within the relationship. As an ADULT (a young adult, granted, at about 24), I was in a very abusive relationship with someone with antisocial personality disorder (and people with ASPD are also narcissistic by default). The abuse was so subtle but constant that by the time I got some space from it, I did not trust my own memories, my decision making, judgement, my perspective on anything, and sometimes even my own five senses. I was completely upside down and backwards, and you don't realize it until it is too late. This girl is no match for that type of psychological manipulation and power dynamic, and for someone to insinuate or flat out say that she was in any way at fault for this is insulting, and shows they don't understand the complexities of these personality disorders.

  • @LeilaJane

    @LeilaJane

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, agreed. She speaks with such confidence despite the ignorance of what she’s actually saying

  • @dlwseattle
    @dlwseattle6 ай бұрын

    I can tell this gal definitely wants a piece of Russell Brand!

  • @CharityLoves44
    @CharityLoves446 ай бұрын

    I can’t stop looking at the guy eating outside. Lol. Right in the window.

  • @veecastile2408

    @veecastile2408

    6 ай бұрын

    I wonder if he was eating tacos 🌮

  • @cathrinej3935

    @cathrinej3935

    6 ай бұрын

    Me, too!

  • @janinestearns7288

    @janinestearns7288

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, very distracting! But as the woman wasn’t saying anything new or talking about Brand’s defense, the guy outside the window was rather a welcome distraction! Lol

  • @harrietprior9525
    @harrietprior95256 ай бұрын

    Take a shot everytime she says “you know” “you know what i mean” 😂

  • @suzetteperkins1089
    @suzetteperkins10896 ай бұрын

    S A IS SA, No means No, no matter when or where or with whom. For F sake.

  • @leevis333
    @leevis3336 ай бұрын

    She has a pretty warped point of view, IMO 🤔 sometimes people who have been abused themselves in their youth in some ways have a blindspot to this kind of thing as an internal defence mechanism...

  • @LeilaJane

    @LeilaJane

    6 ай бұрын

    Spot on 👌 I see that yeah. She can’t seem to empathise with the victim at all, it’s actually shocking.

  • @DarkFruit

    @DarkFruit

    6 ай бұрын

    I think you are right, she probably had age gap relationships in the 90's and the 00's, which were very common, and it didn't end badly for her, and the men weren't too abusive. There's a shocking amount of people from this era who's relationships lasted, and they are married with kids now. but if you do the maths you quickly realise the woman only 14 or 15 when they met.

  • @abbynormal9050
    @abbynormal90506 ай бұрын

    Interesting conversation, but I don’t feel her depiction of sexual culture in the 90s is accurate. She talks about the 90s as if it were the late 60s/early 70s. The 90s was not about “free love”, but more about “safe love”. Condoms and other forms of protection were heavily encouraged. I feel that people are far more promiscuous when it comes to practicing unsafe sex today. I do agree that the type of behavior Russell displayed was not only excepted, but sometimes encouraged, 20-30 years ago.

  • @KingChipQueenMuffin
    @KingChipQueenMuffin6 ай бұрын

    Sorry to correct, but this didn't happen in the 90s. It was the naughties

  • @GHICooper
    @GHICooper6 ай бұрын

    Nope, it was never ok to do the things he is accused of, which are MORE than promiscuity. They are at the very least grooming and abuse. That was never ok, I lived through the 90’s and this was never ok! No, a 16 year old meant nothing different! Stop excusing this!!! He barred her mother from her!

  • @Jules-GamerGrandma
    @Jules-GamerGrandma6 ай бұрын

    I love the random dude in the background eating his lunch 😂😂

  • @Ratcity69
    @Ratcity696 ай бұрын

    I kinda feel what she's saying. It was normal in the 90s and 2000s to laugh off behavior like Russels. As a woman past and present I laugh off inappropriate behavior by men as a way of not letting them know it bothers me. Basically taking the power and putting it in my hands . However I believe there's a distinct line that should never be crossed no matter what decade we are in. I've held off on forming my opinion on Russel Brand until I see all the evidence brought forth. It's hard to see the line when a comedian is using Russel's type of humor. I'm of the opinion now that he definitely crossed the line to many times to count. Someone in his life should have given him a warning shot. Maybe they did and Russell ignored it. Regardless common sense told Russell what he was doing was morally and legally wrong.

  • @fay5479
    @fay54796 ай бұрын

    MOST EUROPEAN countries it's 18...I was raped at 7 by a 50 year old...I am so much more angry now, can't even fathom abusing a small boy...yet I was made to feel guilty, like a dirty girl. I feel angry now.

  • @Narrgeog

    @Narrgeog

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you survived and all power and protection to you.

  • @fay5479

    @fay5479

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Narrgeog thank you ❤️

  • @fay5479

    @fay5479

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Narrgeog none of my family helped me when I was little...now they're upset I am properly pissed off...cowards.

  • @julietwochholz9755
    @julietwochholz97556 ай бұрын

    Andrew - any plans to report on Tim Ballard, OUR, training on a private island, the LDS church, the sexual allegations and lawsuit, the "psychic" who worked with OUR, and how they knew who were child sex traffickers because "God told them." - Would love to get your perspective!

  • @Crashed2023
    @Crashed20236 ай бұрын

    Oh Andrew I know why you would want to use these 'click bait' like titles, but it's so anoying when you realise the video is not quite what it promised!

  • @zoeye7095
    @zoeye70956 ай бұрын

    I don't agree with separating boys and girls. I've seen what that can do. I grew up in a conservative christian background and it just set us up for failure later on. It's better to have a good discussion relationship with your kid and discuss these things. I know there's a lot of people who don't like to do that but some friends of mine had parents who didn't like to talk about those things. One ended up pregnant, several ended up in abusive relationships while young. Thankfully my parents talked to me and we had a sort of open ended conversation about stuff. I still made some stupid decisions but I think I made it out of my teen years not regretting things as much as I could have.

  • @oliverbird6914

    @oliverbird6914

    5 ай бұрын

    Plus not everyone is straight

  • @allytrudie864
    @allytrudie8646 ай бұрын

    In the ghetto of California it is the culture to join a gang and be criminal. Does that mean gang members shouldn’t be punished for their crimes? It IS the culture and there was a time where you HAD to join a gang for your own protection. Join a gang or die. So…..? I guess they have a great excuse to be criminals by brand’s excuse.

  • @katealison6087
    @katealison60873 ай бұрын

    I'm glad someone voiced this. Timeline context is important but conveniently forgotten.

  • @mandyjane1234
    @mandyjane12346 ай бұрын

    I know this sounds bad, but I was on his side until I heard what he did to animals. This is a sign of a very cruel and unsympathetic man

  • @andrewgoldheretics

    @andrewgoldheretics

    6 ай бұрын

    i know what you mean!

  • @littlecatfeet9064

    @littlecatfeet9064

    6 ай бұрын

    @@andrewgoldheretics I was neutral and that tipped me over the edge…

  • @wonderwoman5528

    @wonderwoman5528

    6 ай бұрын

    So you care more about animals than women?

  • @cathrinej3935

    @cathrinej3935

    6 ай бұрын

    I hadn’t heard that. Disgusting and very cruel.

  • @cathrinej3935

    @cathrinej3935

    6 ай бұрын

    @@wonderwoman5528I haven’t heard about what he did to animals and don’t want to know. Animals and children are off limits. Messing with either is pervert territory.

  • @ErnestPiffel
    @ErnestPiffel6 ай бұрын

    Separating teens is ridiculous. And MOST men knew how to behave themselves back then or we would be seeing a hellova lot more cases. Stop blaming the era, rape was never acceptable.

  • @ohjesswhatamess
    @ohjesswhatamess6 ай бұрын

    I like the nuance in this conversation. I think we have to accept we had a different culture back then and like things today, there were many issues however we have to be careful not to overcorrect or hold peoples past actions to todays standards. Young women do possess allure but that level of power is greatly outweighed by celebrity and money. It can make you a target to be used, abused and cast to the side. Separating girls and boys however can create young men and women who don't see the other sex as human or can't work in their presence...something they'll need to be able to do in the real world. I'm thankful I have brothers and went to a coed primary school for this very reason. Perhaps some seperate classes would be a better compromise.

  • @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    6 ай бұрын

    What nuance?? She's victim blaming and trying to pretend like a 16 year old girl has power over a rich celebrity man in his 30s. It's pure rape culture that she's defending. That's not nuance. It's disgusting.

  • @JacquiBerry-gd7rr
    @JacquiBerry-gd7rr6 ай бұрын

    How’s this hungry guy eating at your window

  • @nicpic1985

    @nicpic1985

    6 ай бұрын

    That is all I could watch right.

  • @andrewgoldheretics

    @andrewgoldheretics

    6 ай бұрын

    haha i love that he's there. keeps things interesting in the background@@nicpic1985

  • @cathrinej3935

    @cathrinej3935

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nicpic1985Me, too. Distracting.

  • @larrygerry985
    @larrygerry9856 ай бұрын

    The difficult conversation is regret over harm.

  • @Bdchi3
    @Bdchi34 ай бұрын

    She's absolutely right. At 16 we knew exactly what we were doing as young girls. Especially with a celebrity. It doesn't matter his age we knew EXACTLY what we were doing. He's pretending to not know how teenage girls behave.

  • @maatthecat3966
    @maatthecat39662 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Nina, for reminding people that most teenaged girls are not delicate little wallflowers, swooning at the drop of a hat. Though I can't think of a better way of writing a rule for consent than age, the variability in the maturity of young people is huge. Some are indeed astoundingly naive, but me and my friends used to prefer older men and run rings around them. They were less gauche, less aggressive & more grateful than the young ones and didn't talk to us like we were mentally defective babies. Certainly we were inexperienced, but nobody ever learnt about the world by being locked in their room and talked down to. Everything is dangerous, don't go out, don't talk to anyone -- ostensibly it's concern, but the patronising contempt lurks just under the surface. And all the black&white thinkers in the ciomments section seem far more interested in scoring points by destroying all nuance (trampled unseen) than in the well-being of teenagers.

  • @snowwhite2178
    @snowwhite21786 ай бұрын

    We’re capable to be good & evil! The perfect achievement based on the higher self being. Human has flaws. But if people persistent focus on the good reasons •humility. the choice & intention showed who we are. we need to give credit. We also need to separate things. Very hard to judge the personal life unless we know them personally. We focus on good spirit!

  • @susanmcdonald-timms3202
    @susanmcdonald-timms32024 ай бұрын

    Well said young woman. About women denying women have power or dominate. Hallelujah! Im a 62 year old woman who had the life sucked out of me by women who bought me up. Like vampires. Still trying to get strength. When i was about 6 years old, I felt an impotent rage growing in me, as I stood in the kitchen listening to the women go on about the men. And i knew -even then - “you’re doing to me, what you say the men are doing to you “. And depression and hopelessness set in , because I progressively came to realise that no one would believe me- because the feminine belittling left no physical marks, and i was given plenty of material things. So many young women speaking up today about women’s capacity for evil as well as being victims (which we often are, -victims that is -for sure). If men speak up about it, they can be dismissed. But when the women stand up to the women, this is more effective. Boy what a long road this has been for me, a lonely suffering young woman, going completely unheard, in an era (since the 1970s) where women have go away with blaming men for most of the ills of the world . Listening to endless talk from women about domestic violence from men, as i got pushed further and further down , And the men going along with the feminists to be accepted by these women has been a great betrayal too. Very difficult. And just for a bit of icing, I have no children because of pressure from self-superior women feminists to abort, and I could never conceive after. We humans refuse to remember, that - pigs will walk on two legs.

  • @Licel1
    @Licel16 ай бұрын

    So a 16 year old girl was as powerful as a 32 year old famous and rich man 😐 She's trying to justify Russell Brand's actions

  • @elled10024
    @elled100245 ай бұрын

    Russell switched sides so he could avoid the backlash. He doesn’t want to be held accountable for his actions. He wants people that will defend him no matter what vile things he has done. And their mind it seems the more vile the better-- as long as it owns the Libs. So in essence, they are controlled by the Libs, which if they could only see, maybe they would try to have a more rounded viewpoint on things. I say this and I also say that I have been a huge fan of Russel esp since the switch. I love what I see as his sincerity. But paired with this recent discovery along with the fact that he quotes Russian television verbatim makes me really question his integrity at this point.

  • @PollyAlice2000
    @PollyAlice20006 ай бұрын

    I still struggle with historical claims in terms of those who were grown women at the time of the abuse claimed. If we accept that the problematic (or illegal!) behavior took place during a time when women were discouraged by society in various ways NOT to come forward, then we have to accept that Russell’s behavior WAS condoned by the culture of the times!

  • @Feministretribution
    @Feministretribution6 ай бұрын

    She is talking a lot of nonsense.

  • @memarks
    @memarks6 ай бұрын

    You CAN say it both ways. That is the essence of human existence: at its best, benign hypocrisy. The stuff that oils the cogs. It will always exists as long as reality confronts idealism and vice versa. It will morph and take on different forms, and at times its not materially coherent enough to make an analytical argument stick, "D'you know what I mean". So I don't even try. He will be judged by whatever the criteria are today, even if those criteria are spawned in a mess of the absolute, the changeable, atavistic prudishness, back-lash, helpless forgiveness, frayed sensibilities, moral epiphany, envy, jealousy, whatever.

  • @XxxX-wx3er
    @XxxX-wx3er6 ай бұрын

    This woman has no idea.

  • @a.nhonig3311
    @a.nhonig33116 ай бұрын

    I feel like you're both generalizing about very specific incidents. Please stop it. Thank you.

  • @Pemberley78

    @Pemberley78

    6 ай бұрын

    Yesss!!

  • @MartyMcK
    @MartyMcK6 ай бұрын

    I’m sure we have all experienced the older women on your street who lures the young teenage guys into their houses with drink and drugs etc. The boys are told to consider themselves lucky with this type of thing.

  • @mitchkora

    @mitchkora

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes that’s a good point @martymck

  • @susanramen1615
    @susanramen16156 ай бұрын

    I think single sex schools not a good plan why, because the brain is developing fast in that age so those who don’t are disadvantaged on all that learning time about the opposite sex. If I hadn’t had that I’d have no ideas on how to raise my Son as inexperienced with boys that age! My sister went to all girls until 6th form and regrets that.

  • @zoeye7095

    @zoeye7095

    6 ай бұрын

    Yea, I grew up in a conservative christian family and boys and girls were often separated for things, like swimming to avoid temptation. All it did was make some kids particularly naïve. I am thankful my parents answered my questions and were rather open about all that stuff because it was the ones who didn't get any contact or any discussions who were ending up pregnant or abused in some ways. I think we have to get over this repressed nature and just talk about this stuff. It's natural to feel that way and older men should just know those young girls are off limits.

  • @Anon00008
    @Anon000086 ай бұрын

    Oh my God it was NOT the 90s, this constant mistake undermines her whole Point

  • @melissaskinner4501
    @melissaskinner45016 ай бұрын

    I agree with her completely

  • @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    6 ай бұрын

    Yet another rape apologist.

  • @littlewitch2175
    @littlewitch21756 ай бұрын

    This is your must shallow show ever

  • @fay5479
    @fay54796 ай бұрын

    Gaza took heat off RB, who took it off Wootton...Scolfield ...Hugh...etc... men who are a wee toxic...perhaps? What do they have in common???

  • @memarks
    @memarks5 ай бұрын

    I know of small studies that conclusively show that single sex education, even if done at the classroom level yields significantly better results. But it's all moot now. Nobody's "turning back"

  • @MG-1907
    @MG-19076 ай бұрын

    Toxic..... Meaning coddles arrogance narcissism

  • @Fran-sf6vh
    @Fran-sf6vh6 ай бұрын

    Love the setting, but the people outside, stuffing their faces, are very distracting 😅

  • @zerowheeler
    @zerowheeler6 ай бұрын

    I think it’s quite common not to like RB or what he did in the early 2,000’s, it’s fine not to follow him or listen to his podcasts, he may have been narcissistic and badly behaved, most probably. If we want him “banged up” we have to find more than he had s*x with a 16 year old when he was older than her, both probably regret it now. People want the past to be different, but wild times happened. If he crossed the boundaries and can be prosecuted, then that should happen too. Many rockstars/wealthy folk/people with power probably crossed those boundaries too, unfortunately. It was most definitely a thing. Good we think it’s not acceptable now.

  • @johngregson9827
    @johngregson98276 ай бұрын

    Oh lord, she hit the nail on the head, boring. Especially reading some of these comments, people really shouldn’t talk on an empty head

  • @robovereem7767
    @robovereem77676 ай бұрын

    She s telling a whole Lot of bs,Whats her age

  • @theshounfiles7898
    @theshounfiles78985 ай бұрын

    So true. 90s was an ocean of hedonism

  • @karentranter7806
    @karentranter78066 ай бұрын

    Hi Andrew ♥ Another great discussion with you and Nina. I find it all fascinating. Thank you Andrew ♥ I'm looking forward to more xxx 💝

  • @Equaliser9955

    @Equaliser9955

    6 ай бұрын

    Jewish troll

  • @ItsAllBeenDecided
    @ItsAllBeenDecided6 ай бұрын

    Separating the sexes at a time when their hormones are rushing through their bodies has led to same sex curiosity. Think public school boys' boarding schools. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I just mean to point out that that is not a way to dampen a teenager's sexual urges.

  • @erin4885
    @erin48856 ай бұрын

    Maybe 16 was different in the 90s? For a 30 year old man? Get out of here - way to be a rape apologist

  • @OakwiseBecoming
    @OakwiseBecoming6 ай бұрын

    I graduated high school in 1999 and I didn’t have sex or any sexual activity until I was 19, in college, with a bf my age in a long term relationship. All of my friends and sister were the same. So idk Wtf this chick is talking about that all girls were sex maniacs sleeping around with older men at age 16 in the 90s.

  • @catawaller740
    @catawaller7405 ай бұрын

    She looks very uncomfortable, not entirely confident in her own views. Plus saying the 16 year old has agency and autonomy completely misses the point.

  • @SocratesCurse
    @SocratesCurse6 ай бұрын

    Many of us have always been disgusted by Mr. Brand. These excuses seem a bit off. Knowing your behavior isn’t right is not some kind of superpower.

  • @kellishafron5920
    @kellishafron59206 ай бұрын

    I was young in the 80's. I don't know what culture she is talking about...it wasn't the 60's free love.

  • @OneLine122
    @OneLine1226 ай бұрын

    I like her approach. Not to many people talk about this mixity issue.

  • @TheSapphireLeo
    @TheSapphireLeo6 ай бұрын

    Also when people also don't realise the infinite devastation and immorality of paying and ingesting animals?

  • @littlewitch2175
    @littlewitch21756 ай бұрын

    Blaming the cultureisdumb

  • @estebancomulet
    @estebancomulet6 ай бұрын

    She keeps saying the 90s. Russell wasn't a thing till the naughties...

  • @takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771
    @takeyouryokeandlearnfromme17716 ай бұрын

    By this logic, Bill Cosby was just being normal according to the culture of his time. I get her point though.

  • @kellishafron5920
    @kellishafron59206 ай бұрын

    Defense

  • @debshipman4697
    @debshipman46976 ай бұрын

    Is she saying that a man taking advantages of a child going thru puberty is ok?

  • @leftofcentrebrexit1546
    @leftofcentrebrexit15464 ай бұрын

    Brand was in the *2000s*

  • @JC_dk
    @JC_dk6 ай бұрын

    I haven’t heard you talk about “Pee Diddy”!? He’s bad bad bad, and more sums to come his way. Are you going to confer the Diddy situation?

  • @madarauchiha8146
    @madarauchiha81466 ай бұрын

    the amount of times they both say. you know/you know what i mean.. is just mindless talking. and its super annoying to listen to.

  • @kassandrarodriguez8057
    @kassandrarodriguez80576 ай бұрын

    People shouldn’t date teenagers, even if it’s not illegal. People are naive when they are that young. The brain isn’t even fully developed. I remember how stupid I was.

  • @stoicepictetus833
    @stoicepictetus8336 ай бұрын

    I didn't known rape to be acceptable, just because it was done in the nineties or noughties; just a thought. Plus, what's the 'shock' in this 'defence'? Bait-grabbing title.

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham45705 ай бұрын

    90s Ladettes

  • @Lisarojenko73318
    @Lisarojenko733186 ай бұрын

  • @Karmingiry
    @Karmingiry6 ай бұрын

    Why are people hung up on what Russell did in the past? Other than the rape allegations which should be looked into any other weird thing is past news. People actually change.

  • @janinestearns7288
    @janinestearns72886 ай бұрын

    For crying out loud! I watched all this waiting for SOMEONE to say what Russell Brand’s defense is, & no one ever did! Waste of my time. Whoever she is, the woman said nothing new, & certainly didn’t say what Brand’s defense is!

  • @kellishafron5920
    @kellishafron59206 ай бұрын

    She is pissing me off. Blame it on the 16 yr old girl!!

  • @ladymary22
    @ladymary226 ай бұрын

    She reminds me of Camile Paglia. She said women do have sexual power.

  • @ruthier2699
    @ruthier26996 ай бұрын

    Toxic masculinity relates to how a boy was raised re not being a sensitive sissy, this guest shows a lot of ignorance to say "toxic femininity is about gossiping"

  • @tmctmc-hc5oi
    @tmctmc-hc5oi6 ай бұрын

    I’m 66 and she’s spot on!

  • @Drteomas

    @Drteomas

    6 ай бұрын

    Well we can stop thinking now.

  • @Kati-did
    @Kati-did6 ай бұрын

    The 90s were different. The 00s were different. We didn't look at them with the same lens of today. We have to stop cancelling people for things they did in past that were accepted then.

  • @sarahfellows3074

    @sarahfellows3074

    6 ай бұрын

    Agree

  • @crazyinabilene466

    @crazyinabilene466

    6 ай бұрын

    I was alive then. The things he's accused of weren't acceptable then.

  • @sarahfellows3074

    @sarahfellows3074

    6 ай бұрын

    @@crazyinabilene466 I was alive then and I was a young and men and boys constantly talked about sex and gratuities of the like. If you went into a a club you would be groped by dozens of men. It was the era of American pie. If you watch programs like Graham Norton sexual exploits were always joked about. It was definitely different to what it is today now we have had the me too movement.

  • @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    @user-yc9vx3nz5z

    6 ай бұрын

    Rape is a crime and was a crime in the 90s too.

  • @hazelmaymcclelland
    @hazelmaymcclelland6 ай бұрын

    Russell Brand always looked very unclean. I will never understand his sexual attraction. Yuk

  • @patrickquinlan3056
    @patrickquinlan30566 ай бұрын

    I think she is talking nonsense.

  • @kryssiicat
    @kryssiicat6 ай бұрын

    She's literally talking about children having sex and how they can't have it both ways what is she talking about? This is infuriating that's why it's called statutory rape! Because children teenagers of a certain age may think they're ready but we all know that men who are older and women who are older can take advantage of that vulnerability tell me sticker in front of a mic and a camera and give her the power to spread the stupidity and he's actually agreeing LOL I couldn't even listened to the whole thing

  • @trixie8941
    @trixie89416 ай бұрын

    90's 90's....wtf? Whatever u say, she's not bloody listening. She's certainly on Russels team... terrible comments.... I don't think her diaries are ' surprisingly boring ' very poor speaker, very bland. You need to date Russel, that may make you feel less boring😂

  • @lujinahjfairi3760
    @lujinahjfairi37606 ай бұрын

    A beautiful woman has a lot of power, she can crush men’s hearts !? Where is your logic at? As if beauty a rare and oppressive thing !?

  • @szeevster5767
    @szeevster57676 ай бұрын

    Smart conversation between two very intelligent people. Excellent.

  • @OnTheHappyHealingTrain
    @OnTheHappyHealingTrain6 ай бұрын

    Legal age is 15 in Sweden.

  • @mitchkora
    @mitchkora6 ай бұрын

    I sort of know but don’t .. what she is talking about. It’s like a cram of unlinked political-hit ideas

  • @sarahfellows3074
    @sarahfellows30746 ай бұрын

    I agree with her

  • @user-cr3pj2nr4e

    @user-cr3pj2nr4e

    6 ай бұрын

    "Your daughter"

  • @sarahfellows3074

    @sarahfellows3074

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-cr3pj2nr4e I dont have a daughter, I have myself and my experiences growing up as a tee ager during this time. Not saying it's right, saying it is an explanation and I totally agree with her explanation. That doesn't make me someone who advocates for people getting sexually assaulted.

  • @antonelliarico387
    @antonelliarico3876 ай бұрын

    Thank god for this woman, this is what i have been explaining to my young friends

  • @tamsinwolfe4704

    @tamsinwolfe4704

    6 ай бұрын

    Wow, you're really creepy

  • @antonelliarico387

    @antonelliarico387

    6 ай бұрын

    @@tamsinwolfe4704 strong argument I see.

  • @entropyfun
    @entropyfun6 ай бұрын

    Who is this sane woman?

  • @Lu6771
    @Lu67716 ай бұрын

    👍

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