Very good review. I found it interesting that you noted the clash has a weakness in keeping water out of the shaft. I had a Penn Clash 3000 that salted up at the shaft bearing after two years and would not release. I rinsed it off religiously after striper fishing up here in Boston. Happened anyway. Of course, I later noticed I forgot one of the two little brown o-rings when I did lubing the year before. That did not stop me from buying two new Penn Clash IIs this year. They seem like they are much improved and more salt-proof and I am happy with them . Although I love Penn, I absolutely love my Shimano Torium 14 HG conventional reel more than any other reel I own, so may give a Stradic a try next year.

Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod kzread.infoUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.

A reel review on the new Daiwa ballistic and Saltist MQ would be fire! nice quality vid guys!

I love my Stradic FL more than my Stradic Ci4+. It's an amazing reel for the price. Super smooth and fishes light swimbaits and drop shot like a dream.

I own all 3. I like all 3. I would choose the Shimano if I had to choose 1.

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

i agree!

@kenaaronbabbit9987

2 жыл бұрын

Easy choice

Great and informative video thanks!

I landed a 25lb California yellowtail ot my 4000 shimano stradic fl last week, smooth fight and will recommend to anyone

Very informative, straight to the point and no trying to sell bs loyalty brand either. Thank you sir!

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks deflection, we appreciate the kind words.

Thanks big Guy, very helpful

I've been looking for a light reel to match my new STAR VPR 10' rod! Still watching this vid, thanks for sharing.

@lethalpickleballers

4 жыл бұрын

I would get a Shimano Saragossa

I have the Shimano and Daiwa. How I like these: 1 Shimano 2 Daiwa 3 Penn One last thing, this Shimano is Gorgeous ❤️

I have a penn clash 3000...penn spinfisher 2500.. shimano fj 1000 ...and daiwa explorer 3000...I love all my reels ..😊

Good review, but I was never a fan of Penn Clash due to its' line lay, and prefer the Saltist and the FL alot more.

For weekly saltwater boat/kayak use. The saltist is my choice. Shimano Stradic if I was only going shore saltwater fishing every couple weeks.

@ronniehorton5150

3 жыл бұрын

My stradic fl got yanked in the water dove several feet down I dove in after it was able to get it and catch the fish while swimming in over 10 ft of salt water got back in boat rinsed it with a water bottle fished the rest of the day took home rinsed off and it’s still just as smooth as the day I bought it the x protect on the new stradics is no joke

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronniehorton5150 same here. After I took it apart I was shocked no rust no sign of corrosion

I've bought Penn Spinfisher IV 2500 and a Shimano Stradic CI4+ 2500 at the same time. I fished them both equally off a jetski and gave them the same after use rinse. The shimano stradic had to go for repairs (under warrantee) then it died the following season and is now in a landfill somewhere. The Penn Spinfisher is still perfect and hasn't even had a service yet. I was so impressed with Penn Spinfisher that I went out and bought 3 different sizes of the next model up (Penn Slammer). I've been so impressed with them that I've now sold my Daiwa Saltist 4000 LTD and Shimano Saragosa to get a Penn Authority. I fish a lot here in New Zealand and I like Shimano, I have Talica 8ii and I've even just bought a Beastmaster 9000A electric, but when it comes to spinning reels, I now only fish Penn IPX rated reels. I also had a Shimano Stella 2500 FE which cost me over $500 in servicing in 3 years!! WTF. Sold it! I'm told it was an older fresh water reel, but never again. I'd rather have a slammer than a stella

Had issues with my mag seals. Used them maybe 4 times because the o rings failed and caused salt water corrosion. They cover everything under warranty but gear corrosion. $100 later and I'm fishing again. Hopefully they fix the issue with the mq

thinking of buying the FL 3000 off of your website once they get back in stock🧐

I'm a Penn guy and always will be. That being said, the reel not mentioned is the Diawa BG. The BG in my humble opinion, is the best all around reel and bang for your buck...

haha pretty sure i just bought the last FL off your guys site! dope vid

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. I hope you enjoy the reel.

ALL good reels , the Stradic XGFL is a beast & the best spinning reel on the market sub $250.00 ! The Penn & Daiwa are VERY good ! The Stradic XGFL 5000 is phenomenal in design and performance!

@treasurefinder66

2 жыл бұрын

The Shimano is not the best real if you have large hands. The bend and the stem don't allow for someone with big hands to use it cramps your finger behind that.

I fish in an area with lots of blowing sand. Out of these 3 which would be most likely to keep sand out of areas such as the bale and roller?

I would like to know what reel would you use for crappie and other sunfish like large mouth bass and redears

I own both stradic fj and fk version, I tend to have this line roller bearing. I tried out the Saltist, I never look back at shimano again. I would give 10/10 if Daiwa Saltist would come with power knob like stradic instead of the T-handle knob. Such a fun reel to use.

@Nofishnoclue

4 жыл бұрын

Try the FL stradic, leagues above the saltist imo

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

Roller bearing is notorious for issues in Shimano reel. I always stay with Shimano. Every time I get new Shimano stradic or ci4 I always replace the bearing with custom one usually tackle shop have them. Never ever use factory bearing! I have my original ci4 and fk both still going strong for 10 year going thru thousands of fish even some are easy 40lb

@keltonmcnair9601

10 ай бұрын

Have you gotten your hands on a new saltist?

Verygood informationBro

My money goes with Shimano, the CI4 seies Stradic. I spent good money on a Daiwa that has no performed well. Hard to crank after one use, second time the anti reverse broke. Penn tends to be on the heavier side as I throw a lot of light lures.

i choose penn every time over any other brand

Was that Stradic FL a 5000? I just got one....love it except for one thing. I have big hands and the reel foot that goes into the reel seat on the rod is a little short. My fingers bump the bail sometimes - not always - when grabbing the line to cast. Distracting and different from the other reels I have.

I love my clash for it's durability and ease of maintenance. I also fish a Daiwa Back Bay and an FL among others. The Back Bay is the smoothest, but the Shimano isn't far behind. I have fished Penn reels for decades, and I have a tremendous amount of confidence in them. Don't get me wrong, my other reels get fished a lot. But for some reason, I go back to Penn time and again.

hi how would you compare the Shimano Stradic to the Penn Clash II 4000HS ?

How is the sealing on the stradic

Hands down I am in love with my FL 3000!

@tylerdeline8033

4 жыл бұрын

Great call on the bull bay. It’s what I have mine on.

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@CR-uh2el

4 жыл бұрын

@@tailwateroutfitters wich bull bay size rod would you recommend to cast the furthest with the stradic?

@ronniehorton5150

3 жыл бұрын

@@CR-uh2el get the bull bay sniper

@ronniehorton5150

3 жыл бұрын

I have the 2500 ,3000,5000 FL and I love them all also have the new shimano vanford 3000 and I am in love all over again 🥰 ,got them on bull bay assault rod,bull bay sniper,gloomis gx6,and a crowder rod and there all nasty wouldn’t sell a single combo they stay in the house when we’re not fishing lol

which Stradic pairs best with a 9' rod, 5000 or 6000.

In the UK I'm a Daiwa nut but tried a Penn and they feel nice Some of my Daiwa s like the ht turbo s are v light And the Penn having a bit of weight in saltwater Well they ain't half bad Be lucky all Im a right tackle tart and have got to say the Penn is the best value in them fix spools They feel strong

@andrewdking

Жыл бұрын

A few full stops would be nice so I can understand what you are talking about.

Penn Gears (machined) are by far the best and most durable of the 3.

@alexgannotskiy4621

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck penn I had my reel for 4 months. I git it wet 7 to 8 times in fresh water and it started giving me shit. To the point that it won't spin I paid 280 in sportsmans.

@AryaAdventures

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

The stradic blows all of em away! The Daiwa Saltist Back Bay LT is a close contender to the stradic in my opinion.

Moving to the Tampa area from the Midwest. Looking for a good setup for inshore. Thinking of shimano stradic 3000 and bull bay sniper medium 7’ rod? Will be buying through you all, awesome store/KZread page!!!

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jon for the kind words. That set up you described is absolutely fantastic for the inshore waters around here. Can’t wait to see you!!

Nothing comes to stradic fl. Been using this one really hard , this reel is a winner aside from the shimano high end ones.

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

yea man it's a fantastic reel!

@raulcolmenero

3 жыл бұрын

How does it stack up with the daiwa ballistic?

@maasai-

3 жыл бұрын

Raul Colmenero Sorry i have never used daiwa reels , shimano and penn only

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@raulcolmenero ballistic fail earlier than Shimano

Penn has really stepped their game up over the last few years. I liked the Clash and really like the Clash II. Also really like the Slammer III series too. What a great drag! The 4500 with 30lb braid jerks a knott in a snooks neck! Stradics are great reels too... I have a Clash II 2500 and a 4000. Original Clash I have a 3000 and a 4000 and an HS. Anyone want to buy a Clash reel spooled with Sufix 832 braid lol? Thanks Penn!

@boldcityfishing9265

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m interested lol

Clash II is out on the Penn site now, looks pretty sweet but I think I'll still stick with the FLs and FKs.

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

that's exactly why we don't have any! Can't go wrong with a stradic

You should have included the spinfisher vi, instead of the clash. IPX5

Thanks for the compare Dan. I have 2 Ci4's but I picked up the new Stadic FL and love it. I tried the Penn Conflict II but was not a big fan. Does Tailwater's offer reel maintenance services?

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! We don't do it in store, but we partnered up with a fantastic reel repair person

@Vikes99

4 жыл бұрын

@@tailwateroutfitters Thanks, I will grab the info next time I am in the store. I was in the other day but you were out of the 3.5" Livetarget sardine.

I really would like a stradic had a fk but the roller bearings went out and I just let it sit there and gave it to a buddy really good video you should do one on the best 100$ real

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

we just may have to do that. The winner in our eyes for $100 may be a different brand!

@zachmccormic6543

4 жыл бұрын

Tailwater Outfitters sweet 🔥

@zachmccormic6543

4 жыл бұрын

Tailwater Outfitters congratulations on 500 subs you should I have about a million Times more then that

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

Next time if roller bearing fails get a aftermarket roller bearing like I did. Never had an issue for 10 year with my fk

Daiwa bg or saltist bullet prof

Cast Zinc main gear on the Saltist has to put it in 3rd place.

Should've been Stradic ci4 vs Slammer3 vs Balistic LT

Hi.. comparing with this 2 reel which one is best , penn battle (3)6000 vs daiwa bg Magsealed.. I am planning to buy I am little confused which 1 to buy plz your suggestion.. Targeting for Big Fish like a GT barramundi.. For one time investment ..I am from India budget problems so which is good reel please suggest.. Thanks

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

I personally would go with the BG.

I love also i got shimano stradic FL 2500hg and C 3000hg.

Well penn released a new clash 2

Does anyone have recommendations if I should get a saltist or fl for inshore saltwater getting some salt spray each trip

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

Both are fantastic reels. You may also want to consider the Penn Spinfisher if salt spray is your biggest concern because it is sealed very well.

After 40 years here is my take. I have owned many of each brand. THis is my recent experience: Penn...QC has crashed. Shimano...they start great but wear out fast. Daiwa...been the most reliable and seem to get even smoother the more you use them. Mag Seal is why. But for the average punter, all are fine. But if you earn a living from fishing or you are out there many times a week, I'd go with a Daiwa BG MQ at that price point.

@maasai-

Жыл бұрын

Mind u , i have been using shimano from the lower end ie sonora to the high end sella , more than 16 reels none of them ever failed me aside from line roller ballbearing , which is not a big deal , where i live big gt is very common that reach 70kg , fishing tourist prividers would give their best credits to shimano more than daiwa

Did Shimano ever fix the binding problem that occurs when the friction ring gets wet?

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

Ste-Bow not sure if they did, we haven’t had anyone experience that problem. Let us know if you find out.

Penn clash all day, they last a lot longer. Trust me in the long run you’ll want a clash over a Stradic. I know people who break stradics like crazy although when they are new you can’t beat em.

@bassinbilliards6279

3 жыл бұрын

I run my Penn reels for Saltwater and Shimano for freshwater.

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

How come my clash failed on me after using it for 8 month vs my ci4 and fk after abusing it for 10 years? Clash whole damn gear stripped. My buddy had same issue

@lethalpickleballers

2 жыл бұрын

@@calallen8786 how did you treat it? Because I’ve had Stradics get absolutely wrecked after only a few months of hard use and then my penns typically do okay. Honestly I do like shimanos though simply because they are a lot lighter and more enjoyable to use. Just in my experience penns have lasted me much longer

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@lethalpickleballers i basically don't wash my reel after I use it on land but on boat yes but lightly mist it then wipe it off with a rag. Once a year I maintain it. But weirdly it totally opposite for me. Penn get trashed less than a year after use . But shimano never had an issue with it

@lethalpickleballers

2 жыл бұрын

@@calallen8786 wash even from land too that’s what I usually do. But that’s weird I swear I’ve heard such mixed reviews of both. Some people swear by penn while others shimano. Lately I’ve turned to daiwa and it hasn’t dissapointed

Great info Thank You for the knowledge. I don't do much saltwater fishing. I do ultra light trout fishing. I have a Shimano Stradic 1000 HC. Like you said absolute butter. But I also have a Garcia Zata SP25, although it is significantly heavier, I have not used my Stradic since I bought it. $190. Do you have any experience with the Garcia reels? I know that Penn and Garcia are both owned by pure fishing, so I'm wondering if it's just a marketing issue where pure fishing doesn't want to cross brands into target segments.

Just bought the Newest 2021 Shimano Vanford C3000, not on sale, just normal shop price 293$ only 74$ More than the Static FL, it's a nice wheel, but when you get the newest Vanford in your hands it's like a Stella FT, next is to really upgrade my Vanford with 3-4 New bearings, to be better than the Stella FT, I have not seen a 14 bearing Vanford upgrade, it might not be possible, but the 12 bearing upgrade is cool.. Should be good enough to be a wheel for life, if maintained :) But your 180-220$ wheel compared to eachother is OK, I would like to have Abu Garcia's 200$ wheel in the mix, maybe a more extensive research, the wheels are very different, I sat that Penn is not a SW wheel only rivers and lakes, no Ocean, in my opinion Penn never do it right theres allways something they could have done for 2$. O-ring, some round flat rubber sealing. The inside construction is what semi good ones had 20-30 years ago. But keep on doing better and better recordings... GL

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

Vanford is okay ill take stradic over it

Hey any 1 can help me. Looking for a new stradic. Wich 1 would you guys choose. Stradic ci4+ or shimano fl

@Hairygranny

3 жыл бұрын

penn haha

Been a penn guy for 8 yrs But love how the Shimano static looks and how light it is.. really considering purchasing one.. is the bail wire durable??

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is very durable. It is a great reel. We have them in stock in 2500, 3000, and 4000 which you can find on our website.

@rubenromero4988

3 жыл бұрын

One last question what size would you recommend for popping corks And live bait fishing off flats and a low Pier 4000? or 5000?

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you can go wrong with either size. I would probably lean towards the 4000 but I use a 5000 quite often.

@rubenromero4988

3 жыл бұрын

@@tailwateroutfitters thank you!

@die-eggocamaney6967

2 жыл бұрын

If your a heavy fisher man stay away, unless u regularly disassemble and oil/grease.

Gotta find me a Daiwa Stradic

East coast vs west coast vs Daiwa - do you want the opposite coast headquarters or the Daiwa?

Just bought a vanford 1000 over a diawa kage lt 1000. Did I do ok

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

That Vanford is a great reel.

Whatever happened to Dan loved his videos. Stood out from the crowd.

I’m unsure to get the 4,000 or 5,000 stadic what would you suggest?

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

They are basically the same reel. The 5000 holds more line and has a different handle.

Nice video but seems to be more focused on saltwater reels. Do a fresh water best reel video too!

How do you change the saltist to right handed , this reel has me confused haha please respond !!

@johnridenour2220

4 жыл бұрын

Reverse screw the handle. Had me baffled as well.

Own a few of all of them… Penn is toughest, shimano is lightest and Diawa is my favorite. When it comes to rebuilding them I think Penn wins also?

Shimano #1 Hands Down!!!

I have always had Stradics but I wanted to try something different so I got the Clash. It is a really smooth reel but man, I get 10 times the wind knots that I get with Stradics. Same braid, rods, everything. Suggestions?

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, I've not heard that before. My immediate thought is that maybe there is a little bit too much line on the clash?

@JD-hs7ib

4 жыл бұрын

Steve the new Clash 2 is supposed to have a worm drive that will take care of those wind knots ??? Lets hope so It is hard to beat a Stradic though.

@FuzzyBears..

4 жыл бұрын

Grass is not always greener on the other side. Lol

On the FL, do you notice play in the spool (up and down)? I just got the 5K and it’s a lot more noticeable than other reels I’ve had. Everything else seems to be working fine. Thanks!

Would love to hear your thoughts on the Daiwa Ballistic in there also

@alldaytony2751

4 жыл бұрын

It's a lite reel that feels slick like oil. I love it.

@jimquantic

4 жыл бұрын

@@artificialslinger9730 Then again, in my case, it is the smallest ballistic made--for trout fishing so frame flex is not an issue.

@jimquantic

4 жыл бұрын

@@alldaytony2751 Thanks for that, I have been trying to compare small reels, the ballistic and the saltist.

Different reels for different approach, can't go wrong with either.

Let's get review 20 years from today.Seen any Shimano from late 60 to 70 at work today ?

if you want a good reel Daiwa Saltist is the BEST crezy REEL on price and quality

For jig 60 gr stradic fl 5000 is good ?

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

That should be fine.

Is shimano coming out with a new ci4 model?

@kennylove188

3 жыл бұрын

Vanford is the new model name for the ci4 carbon blend body reels, all the aluminum body reels are the Stratic model.

Which is better, Shimano Stradic fl or Shimano Sustain fi?

@tailwateroutfitters

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know which one you would say is necessarily “better”. The sustain is more expensive but that Stradic is amazing. Also, we have the new Vanford from Shimano and it is pretty sweet as well.

@travisa1326

3 жыл бұрын

Shimano vanford

Wish u threw a Florida fishing products osprey in this video. You should do an osprey review

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

Ian Veliz great idea!!

I prefer Penn over my Shimano reel. Materials and quality feel better.

That NEW Kage MQ LT will be BETTER than all those only at the 4000 size.

@BallinRiceBowl

3 жыл бұрын

But will it come through at the same price point?

I have all three and can say thr Clash 3000 has been my super durable and can take a beating. I like the FL the best but dam, ive constantly have to take it apart and replace parts especially the roller bearings. The diawa sits in the corner. The shimano looses its smoothness unless you replace the bearing , even with regular oil .

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

Use custom roller bearing not factory one. That what I use on my ci4 and fk. Still smooth after 10 year of abuse

@die-eggocamaney6967

2 жыл бұрын

@@calallen8786 I've paid premium price , let shimano sort that stuff out. I'm not doing all that. Just seal the damn bearing, also the plastic parts too. Penn for durability and reliability. Shimano for luxury and initial smoothness.

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@die-eggocamaney6967 for me penn is trash had alot of these failed on me. Only penn that never failed on me is conventional. Which plastic are you having issues with shimano? True I agree I think shimano needs to focus on roller bearing. I recently had to replace my custom one I had on it for about 10 year last weekend it finally went grindy. So lucky I had couple extra one before I moved and replaced it.

@die-eggocamaney6967

2 жыл бұрын

For the money it's not worth the head ache and always replacing bearings all the time. Penn is better in reliability. Shimano is smoother.

Why are you comparing Stradic FL to saltist? It should have been Caldia Lt or Ballistic Lt. Not a fair match.

@dharma4lifestyle

3 жыл бұрын

It is a bad review, I totally agree. 😂

What size was that saltist ?

@239peytonn7

4 жыл бұрын

4K

I've tested the Clash,it's more then enough.Dependibility above all3

@larsvegas1505

4 жыл бұрын

yes it will keep going.. but if ur looking for a tank go daiwa, if ur going for smoothness go stradic.. the penn it just for penn fans i guess.. i will stay running smooth for about a month.. because the insides are just cheap potmetal chinese parts compared to the other 2 reels.. yes penn might still make a few decent models.. in the upper regions.. but everything below 500 bucks is just cheap chinese knockoff.. they havnt got a single spinning reel thats decent.. only saltwater multipliers.. and they dont even make their own parts they outcourse most of em.. esp on the spinning side.. so to me penn isnt even in the race.. its just between shimano and daiwa..

@jackz5846

2 жыл бұрын

@@larsvegas1505 I'm almost certain at that price range Shimano and Daiwa out source all the parts to Asia somewhere. I don't think it's made in Japan mate

The Stradic FL is not all Shimano claims. They missed a global home run on it for the following: 1. No folding handle. 2. No service port. 3. No cloth protective bag. 4. No reverse. I don't care for it but others will. 5. The "Taller spool" claim is false. It's not anything taller than a Stradic 1000MgFB spool. I measured 1mm taller between the two. It is smoother than other models I will say and the bail is smoother also. I still love the FL. Chenaged to all bearings and its basically a Stella now.

I own a clash and a saltist and I like the clash more, the stradic doesn’t seem to be as durable.

Give me the Saltist .... Stradic is turning into a name ... I feel like Shimano wants to push the consumer to jump into the $300 range

I have no brand loyalty. Have penn, daiwa, and Shimano reels. For inshore and finesse fishing at the $200-$250 price point I’m going Shimano every time… the ballistic LT’s are good reels too but no comparison to a stradic FL in my opinion. Depends on the price point and the application for me when I buy a reel, not the brand but even in that $100 range, that new NASCI looks like it’s going to dominate the inshore market in that price point. At least in the Southeast Florida market anyways. The penn battle III looks interesting but for the price point I’d still go Daiwa or Shimano. If you want a lifer, saltwater reel that’s no frills, but will last forever reel go with an old Penn Spinfisher SS or Senator for saltwater fishing. Penn’s new stuff isn’t as durable anymore as they claim and Penn falls way behind in terms of smoothness, and weight, at least with their inshore reels than Daiwa and especially Shimano. Now admit I haven’t fished the clash or clash II, and I’m sure it’s a great reel but for the price point and application I’d go Shimano every time

@tailwateroutfitters

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

👍

I love Shimano and Daiwa reels, when they're brand new. When they get to be a few years old and they've seen a little sand, an occasional dunking, and a few of the rocks off Pemaquid Light... not so much. There is another channel on KZread called Sea-Money Fishing. My experiences are identical to his. If you use a reel hard, you can expect to be happy with your Shimano or Daiwa right up to the time that they declare it "OBSOLETE" (usually three to five years) and then you're screwed. If it wasn't for eBay, where plenty of other people have had the exact same problems I have and they're unloading them for cheap, I would have no sources for parts. So, as long as you can fix it yourself from dead donor reels, you may be able to keep it going a bit longer. And forget about the parts clearing houses like Mike's Reel Repair. It seems they're the first ones to get cleaned out when the factories stop providing the parts. On the other hand, in the past eight years or so I've seen Penn improve the quality of their reels. The Slammer and Torque are as good a surf reel as anything I've seen made by anybody else. And, they'll hold up better than the best of what the Japanese can muster. All this while providing just about any part I've ever needed. Your only other option, if you want GOOD and rugged, is to bight the bullet and get a Van Staal or a ZeeBass. As far as I know, there isn't a part on these reels that the factory or service centers can't provide.

Let’s throw the Penn Clash 2 in the mix and see how it goes🎣

@stepheno.2730

4 жыл бұрын

marc sal I have the 2500 and a 3000. The Stradics went up for sale.

Bitterly disappointed with the Penn Clash. I returned the first 4000 i ordered because the line lay was abysmal, even using custom shims. The second, replacement, reel was also awful, bearing in mind the cost . Line lay is one of the most important things to review, yet hardly anyone demonstrates this.It also feels slightly hard to wind, no doubt that's the water seals. I've gone back to my Shimano Stradics, which seem to be the best buy for me, because casting ability with light lures is important to me. Penn should stick to multipliers, in my opinion.

@playinhookie

4 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same problem. Returned it and got the Stradic ci4+ hbfg 2500. Added on the super tune bearing kit and funny enough I found the only difference between the 2500 and 3000 is the spool capacity. They fit on either so I bought myself a 3000 spool so I basically have two reels now. When I originally picked up the box I didn't think there was a reel in it, it was so light. Incredible reel for the price. All I was doing was giving another brand a chance and Penn to me failed. I've used Stradic's since the 90's and now I know why.

SHIMANO all the way...💪💢

Shimano 5000 or penn 5000 ???? Answer me plz

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Ahmed, I think the video speaks a lot and should answer your question. For kayak fishing and people that aren’t as religious in taking care of their gear, go penn. For ultimate smoothness and weight, go shimano

@FuzzyBears..

4 жыл бұрын

Ahmed Tag I got the Shimano 5000 It’s smaller than the penn The penn would be equivalent to a Shimano 6500 if they made it.

@mayonmayontoo

4 жыл бұрын

I have the FL 5000 it's a lot lighter, more compact, and more advanced than the penn.

@JB-sh2mm

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Brady The FL5000 is the same exact size/weight/gear ratio as the FL4000. Difference is the 5000 has a bigger spool making it 1/10 of an oz heavier.

@FuzzyBears..

4 жыл бұрын

J B true. But the question was the difference in Shimano and Penn

I would choose 2 BG's over any of those choices.

Maybe you don't know the Shimano Stradic FL have a plastic bearings inside of mechanism ......Daiwa Saltist is the BEST reel ever for a long long time fishing end durability ...

I was a big shimano guy but we go through these Stradics.. they break to easily

Hands down FL in my opinion except for the absolutely garbage line roller bearing setup it has

@DUNGSTA

4 жыл бұрын

You get what you get and you don't get upset

@calallen8786

2 жыл бұрын

You can replace the roller bearing with aftermarket one like i did. Never had issue again

Penn reels all day 🤙🏼

Easily the stradic the saltist is $250 and has bushing for a line roller bearing and penns are only good for live or cut bait artificials are a no go

@tailwateroutfitters

Жыл бұрын

agreed!

Technically that is not true. The Shimano FL reel was designed for salt water Don’t know where you’re getting that incorrect information!

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Jeff, thanks for your comment. However, Shimano does not say that this reel is built for saltwater, like their reels in the sw collection like the Stella sw, twin power sw, sargosa sw, socorro sw, etc.

@FuzzyBears..

4 жыл бұрын

Tailwater Outfitters the Shimano FL wins Icast 2019 best saltwater reel.

@Gio-nl7eg

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Brady doesn’t change the facts it’s not found in their saltwater reel category. Must be for a reason..

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

That’s absolutely right! It is a fantastic reel in saltwater but was not designed specifically for saltwater use.

@Nofishnoclue

4 жыл бұрын

@@tailwateroutfitters I think you guys misinterpret how Shimano names there reels, sw is just reserved for sealed reels, the stradic is one of shimanos longest running successful inshore saltwater spinners, so yes they are specifically designed for saltwater, these ones even have sealed drags which is a testament to that, not that it really matters tbh

"Penn is known for durability and strenght" l m a o Penn has probably the best quality perfomance of all brands, but the quality of durability and strenght is easily the worst of them all

Can you do a giveaway for subscribers bro

@tailwateroutfitters

4 жыл бұрын

jishnu p s we have one coming up soon.