Like your videos but this one is an error. In the begining you said it was a 5000 Shimano then you are talking about a 6000 Shimano??? Anyway... You can't compare a slammer 6500 to a shimano 5000 no comparison. Don't let the model numbers fool you. A shimano 5000 is more similar to a Penn 3500 which is a much lighter reel and it still has more power than a Shimano 5000 and probably a 6000 as well. I fish with a Penn 3500 or even a 4500 all day and it is fine. A Penn 6500 is a BRICK. That is more for deep sea fishing were you set it and forget it. Don't go by model numbers compare reals by specs.

@Ready_Fire_Aim

4 жыл бұрын

agree'd. doesn't even mention the slammer drag

@NFiltr8Red

4 жыл бұрын

Penn Slammer 4500 vs. Shimano or Daiwa 4000-5000. It’s half the weight.

@God.GunsAndTrump

4 жыл бұрын

100% agreed.

@thc152

4 жыл бұрын

100% agree! He was NOT comparing the right size between the two reels.

@rianotrijaya246

4 жыл бұрын

Yess, that chinese is shimano guys

I surf fish exclusively. I own both. I can’t imagine ever being loyal to just one brand. I like variety. That being said, the Shimano is the smoothest reel I’ve ever encountered. It just doesn’t matter a whole lot when your set up is sitting in a rod holder. If I was casting and retrieving all day, I’m sure I’d use the Shimano more.

@ReelOne

4 жыл бұрын

I fish off a kayak and cast non stop. Weight makes a significant difference.

I've bought Penn Spinfisher IV 2500 and a Shimano Stradic CI4+ 2500 at the same time. I fished them both equally off a jetski and gave them the same after use rinse. The shimano stradic had to go for repairs (under warrantee) then it died the following season and is now in a landfill somewhere. The Penn Spinfisher is still perfect and hasn't even had a service yet. I was so impressed with Penn Spinfisher that I went out and bought 3 different sizes of the next model up (Penn Slammer). I've been so impressed with them that I've now sold my Daiwa Saltist 4000 LTD and Shimano Saragosa to get a Penn Authority. I fish a lot here in New Zealand and I like Shimano, I have Talica 8ii and I've even just bought a Beastmaster 9000A electric, but when it comes to spinning reels, I now only fish Penn IPX rated reels. I also had a Shimano Stella 2500 FE which cost me over $500 in servicing in 3 years!! WTF. Sold it! I'm told it was an older fresh water reel, but never again. I'd rather have a slammer than a stella

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said how different these two reels are. The Penn might be marketed towards a group who want a heavier reel, possibly to put heavy bait on the hook and let it set on the bottom. Then you have the line capacity and drag to reel in whatever hits it. The Shimano might be marketing more of a casting crowd or at least a more mobile crowd who is more concerned with the weight of the reel than the drag or line capacity. As you said, both reels will get the job done in almost ALL situations. I like how you stayed out of the corner of saying which one was "better" than the other by approaching this from a differences standpoint. This way you are being helpful to anyone looking at or comparing these two reels and consumers can make a more educated choice and pick what best fits their needs. Awesome video.

@fishingthepeje7557

2 жыл бұрын

Penn is a reel for people that don’t want to spend $

@kaiden8588

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, ive got a penn ive been using for a while and i love them for pier fishing and surf fishing havnt tried it offshore but im sure its great. But i also have a shimano that i use whenecer im casting out artificial bait or going fishing with a lighter tackle setup.

@notsure7874

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, he's comparing a Slammer, and probably should be comparing a Spinfisher instead. Slammers are, and always have been - a meat stick reel. I personally don't use spinning reels in that class, my meat sticks are all conventional.

I've been watching you for a year now and bought a Shimano baitrunner and mojo surf 10'6" rod for Christmas. Can't wait for the weather to warm up so I can get out there and catch some fish. Love you guys, keep up the great work!

Love my Gosa 10K. In 2 years landed 5 wahoos, 2 decent tunas, 2 uluas, and countless small fish. She fell off the boat and went overboard into the ocean, dove into the water and retrieved her 15' below the surface. Opened her up and bone dry. Absolute beast of a reel.

@ashleycarelse6929

2 жыл бұрын

South African (Cape Town) here .... In our neck the woods we do surf / rock fishing mostly. Before "Coffee Grinders" were the rage Penn was the go-to reel ie Free Spool reel (Starting with the Penn 45 (way back) and the Penn 500). The fish we catch in the Western Cape are generally big and include Yellow tail, cob, grunter etc and then also ragged-tooth sharks, gully sharks etc ..... the go to reels include the Shimano Saragosa 6000, 8000 and 10000, additionally the Shimano Twin-Power 6000, 8000 and 10000.

@kencleg7721

10 ай бұрын

Gosa

@HanginOffThaReel

3 ай бұрын

I love SA fishing. It's like our fishing on steroids (Sydney Australia) we love chasing big cob, we call them Jewfish/Mulloway@@ashleycarelse6929

They stole the penn reel because thieves always go for the best lol.

@MoisesQuirozT

4 жыл бұрын

LOL, smart bastards...

@Mr4twitch

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah right

@Lucas-bn8pm

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@tendertummycooking2726

3 жыл бұрын

brought it back the next day after he fished with it.... lol.

@martins.7175

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

I own mostly Shimano, Okuma, Penn, and Daiwa. It sounds crazy but I've landed more big fish on Okuma reels. Still love Penns despite being heavy. Being from Texas I'm usually fishing for Redfish and trout. I'm hooked on your videos. Really good stuff! Love the content!

@moseskongi4746

7 ай бұрын

What small reel in the 2500 size (under 9oz) would you recommend to catch flounder and specks that can also handle a redfish (5 - 10lbs) if it decides to bite? I use 10lb braid.

@JedemPoKucama

5 ай бұрын

​@@moseskongi4746 Get a Daiwa BG MQ 3000 (9.3oz) even the 4000 is only 10oz..but if you're willing to spend more look up Shimano Twin Power XD,Daiwa Certate and Shimano Vanquish too

Team penn, always been on my budget. Never had a bad experience with dawia either have two of them. But I'm stay true to penn. Great video. Always fish with what you love and do best with.

Lmao “ I love you too” thats what the reel said back when cranking Shimano

My dad and I have mostly penns, not out of loyalty but happenstance. They function fine, but don’t blow me away. I think the Penn Pursuit 3 is great value, I have a Shimano my wife uses, and I’m sincerely impressed with that reel. My favorite rig I own though, is my Piscifun Alijos.

@HanginOffThaReel

3 ай бұрын

I LOVE the Penn Pursuit, got it on a Penn Mariner rod in an awesome deal a few years ago and it was my most beloved setup. Had more expensive reels, for some reason that pursuit was so lightweight, yet so solid and never missed a beat, built so well, it was my favourite and most reliable reel. Probably still would be, and I've got a Slammer 3. Need to get another Pursuit as I lost my last combo. Gotta build it back up. By the way, on the light Penn Mariner rods (2-4kg, fast action) the tip is just so sensitive and unlike anything else I've fished with which was also that solid. Honourable mention is abu Garcia RayRex, Light 1-3kg rod, but they are a lot more fragile to bumps etc if you aren't careful with them. They hold up to a decent size fish still though!

Is "I'm a broke mofo and buy whatever I can find in the pawnshop" a team?

@stugotswins

3 жыл бұрын

Even if i had money I would still buy my reels at the pawn shop

@stugotswins

3 жыл бұрын

@Azbycxdwevfugthsirjqkplomn McPinth ya you could buy a brand new reel and the first time you use it the thing is used..,. Pay half as much at the pawn shop and you have more money for fuel to go fishing 🙄

I've always been a diehard Penn fishermen, but recently I've introduced some lighter shimanos into my arsenal, and so far I'm very impressed! Great reels 👍🏻

@HeySkipper

4 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@BigKeithDog

4 жыл бұрын

Check out the Penn Conflict II's. They are about the lightest reels I've ever used.

Have a few Penn SSVs and I agree to heavy and both need service after 7 months of Togging. I've recently gone over to a couple BGs and pretty happy with the weight and smoothness so far. You cant beat the price for a almost fully sealed reel. I love my 2 Shimano for freshwater. But think the sealed Shimano for saltwater are big bucks. Thanks for the content. You guys rock!

@maxscmidt3857

4 жыл бұрын

I have a SSV 9500 and i used in alot in over 6 years without any service, its a little bit damaged, dut smooth like at the first day!

I discovered PENN brand many years ago after bad experiences with other reels in the coastal sea run brown trout fishing. Since that moment I cannot imagine to choose different reels than PENN. Perhaps these reels are not the smoothest ones but are full metal, sealed, reasonably priced and bulletproof. That's a simple recipe for a good reel.

@jimbo4612

2 жыл бұрын

Iceland Brown trout and Penn a winning combination

@FlattychasersNSW

2 жыл бұрын

shimano is made for higher skilled fishermen who care about looking after their reel and lightwieght performance penn is made for the lesser skilled fisherman with little care for their reels and no need for casting and skill

@Chris_STR

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlattychasersNSW lol who taught u anything about fishing lol

@davesiu680

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris_STR I think what he meant in his context is that Penn are for people who love fishing but are not gentle with their reels (I dont mean maintenace prespective). Lets be honest there are people out there who would use things like a rag doll as a habit. On the other hand, shimano are more bells and whistles. Therefore, you need extra care of your reel.

Enjoyed the video! I use both but was partial to Shimano and so far I've had good success with both brands, that is, until last Saturday. I was using my brand new Thunnus 6000(although I had not used it since purchasing just prior to the pandemic). Well, I hooked into a very large bull red with it and the handle broke off from inside the reel! Found out then of course that Bass Pro only has a thirty day warranty on Shimano reels but Shimano has a one year warranty. To save myself some frustration, I dropped it off locally with a very experienced old man who repairs fishing gear.

The Gosa is not just smoothness and beauty. It’s a tank. I’ve horsed big red snapper, sharks, amberjack, bonito, Cobia and more with my 10K Gosa. And it still feels like the day I bought it. The thing is just a beast.

@fieshyfish

4 жыл бұрын

Saragosa?

@comeatmebro3229

4 жыл бұрын

thats the problem with his comparason a 6500 slammer is the slammer equivalent of a 10k gosa

Drop down to penn 4500 model. Slightly lighter, stronger drag, and still more capacity than a gosa 5000.

@wormway_69

3 жыл бұрын

40 inch retrieval

@philmackenzie2072

3 жыл бұрын

@Dane Yawn what's it like? I just ordered one

@nucreative4556

3 жыл бұрын

@Dane Yawn I brought the 6500 arrives today hope it will get the job done jigging for Amber jacks

@kakariya71

3 жыл бұрын

​@@nucreative4556 It should have no problem too pull over 1m Amber jacks with this. I have 5500 and had no issue at all! But it gets bit tired as it's heavy. So if you are jigging all day, either change it to 5500 or 4500. And it still has more drag capacity than saragosa6000SW.

@nelson442

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh yes the saragosa are expensive to no have the line capacity as the slammer 🤦🏻‍♂️, i mean i still prefer slammer than saragosa shimano is great but way to over priced .🤦🏻‍♂️

Great review video! I have owned three Penn Slammer 3 for two years now. I bought them because they are good-looking, heavy-duty and powerful. For the first several months, they were really smooth, but they became stiffer after several months use. I did maintenance myself for many times, I just couldn't get the original smoothness back. Now I only use them for bait fishing. The most horrible issue I have with Penn is that the handle of one of the reels snapped into two pieces right at the middle joint recently. Unbelievable! I am now a Shimano guy. I own a Saragossa and Twin-power. I really enjoy the smoothness. But they are not as heavy-duty as my Slammer. I need to use them with extra care. Recently, I ordered a Daiwa Certate SW directly from Japan. Haven't got it yet, but can't wait to try it.

Those who never service their reels need a reel with the lowest bearing count. Majority of the time, failure is due to bearings going bad or seizing..

I’ve used my penn kingfishers for years, with no service, and they are great. No sound. No issues. Also, my needs differ from your needs.

Own both of these reels, definitely agree with weight comparison, surf casting lures gets way more tiring fishing with the slammer 3. Smoothness I give it to Shimano. Power(drag) I give it to Penn. Like skipper said. Purchase the reel that equips your type of fishing. Have yet to lose fish on these two reels. Fingers crossed. Great review. 👍

@kaiden8588

2 жыл бұрын

Ya ive got both a shimano and penn reel that ive used and i prefer my penn for surf/pier fishing and prefer my shimano for artificial bait fishing (lures etc.). I just love my penn for rough fishing ive fallen into surf and completely flooded my reel and i got back up and kept reeling no issues and as long as theyre properly maintained i havent had any issues, but they are tiring to use when your casting repeatedly thats when i pull out my lighter tackle rod with my shimano

I fish off the rocks in South Africa. My favourite rod and reel combo is my Penn Allegiance II 11ft and Penn Wrath 5000. You are right that the Penn is a heavy reel, but I have no problem casting with it. The Penn Wrath is an entry level reel at a good cost and is very smooth (for now). My understanding is that it all depends on what you are fishing for and what you are casting. For casting bait, the Penn is a good reel, but for casting lures, I would go with a Shimano or Daiwa due to the lighter weight. Just my two cents...

Love your vids. Always fun. Always honest. Always great info . Ty...keep em coming

Great Vid, I'm a Penn guy so I'm biased the other way. I'm new to your channel and look forward to seeing more.

This was a very poor comparison video. I'm pretty sure its in the name "slammer" that its meant to be bigger and heavier than other reels. With all the other Shimano reels you have, do none of them have comparable drag/line capacity for an actual comparable sized reel to see if they match weights? Penn does have reels that fill the lighter casting role, and Shimano has big heavy high capacity/ drag reels. That said I have a semi comparable 4000 size from both shimano and Penn, the only main difference being age and drag. The Shimano is like 10+ years old and it still runs geat, but I keep it only in the freshwater, while the Penn is my all purpose medium size reel and its caught small reds, and a few okay snapper. I love them both for what I use them for. I don't have a matching Dawia yet, I'm waiting for the cheap toss about reel i use to break to get a Saltist or BG for my next one.

For the watchers out there, Shimano sizing are much smaller than the standard size we are accustomed to. My Shimano Stradic 4000 is about the same size as my Penn Spinfisher 2500. So a good comparison for this Slammer 6500 would be the Saragosa 14000. With that said I do feel the Shimano is smoother but also appears to be much more fragile.

I enjoy your videos Skipper. Good job comparing these reels. I've been using Penn spinning reels in saltwater for 33 years. In my experience there is little comparison between the 2 brands. Shimano is fine for light tackle out of a boat, but they will not last. I have over 30 Penn reels going back to the late 1980's. Every one of them are still in perfect working order. I have never had 1 Penn reel to malfunction while fishing. 100% for me! I couldn't care less about weight of a reel. It's about quality and dependability to me. I am loyal to the products that have served me well. Tight lines!

"Yes" you should still trust Penn and/or any other reel. You have to look at it this way, How many of us either in the fishing world, electronic world, building world, etc have gotten name brand expensive equipment and it fails at the worst possible moment. In all honesty, s^%$ happens. Remember anything that humans or robots make will at some point either fail, break or not work anymore and of course at the worst possible moment. For every 1 handle that breaks, fails, or doesn't work, doesn't even compare to the success of the performance of the reel in general. I'm neither pro Penn or Shimano. I have both, and in my fishing career I have heard, seen, and experience reel failure. Again, it doesn't happen all the time. Even if you service it as your suppose too. Congrats to Penn on honoring their warranty. My opinion, This is what you look into in a company. Remember, it would be great to live in the perfect world that everything we buy, touch and own to never fail on us either at the worst possible moment or in general. Maybe its the Army background I have where you adapt and overcome at a less than a moments notice (that is no dig to or on anyone who doesn't have military background.) I just think in general we have to look at the overall picture is that Penn and Shimano has there pro and cons on every reel they make. As fisherman we use what we feel is right. Remember, using any reel is a hell of a lot better than watching fish swim by you and wishing you could catch them hahaha.

Penn, never had a problem. I have 15 year old reel

@waluhhabunangler5593

4 жыл бұрын

Right brother my slammer old 1st You see my channel fishing day 1 Fishing day 2 part 2 Fishing day 3 .....very good power but you must good maintenance

@danielzanders5191

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@jonathancox9501

3 жыл бұрын

The old models were made in the USA and were bullet proof......since they went to china and use cheap local components,they have gone right down hill.....the SS versions used to be awesome but you paid the money for them......now they are cheap but they are also nasty as well.

@josephsellitto5748

3 жыл бұрын

My friends dad has spinfisher 1s from the 1980s and the thing is smooth as butter and it’s never been taken apart

@theodorequismondo894

3 жыл бұрын

Same never had a problem with my penns

I'm team "Whatever lasts". I have an old Van Staal VS250N that has been through the campaigns. It's been submerged, dropped, whacked, and beaten, but Van Staal can repair or replace the parts of anything, and everything, I can break. I also have an old Penn 650SS and 850SS I use for bunker chunk'n. I can also get any part or service I have EVER needed. Now let's talk about my two (and only two, for a reason) Shimanos. My 2500FH is somewhere in the bilges of my brother's boat, and has been since the summer of 2010 because I need a new spindle for it. Ordered one from Mike's Reel repair right after I noticed the old one had split right were the pin goes through it, right above the drag click'r gear. Mike's had it on order for TWO YEARS! The part can't be had for ANY money because (according to Shimano) it's OBSOLETE! And don't get me started on the Stradic 5000FH I bought at the same time. It's shot! It needs a new side plate because two seasons of sand and salt did it in. If this reel had been made by Penn, I'd just buy a new side-plate, bearing, and spacer and move on with life. Here again, the parts are made of unobtainium! Hey, I think it's wonderful that the KZread celebrities of this world get neat new tackle every year (at a reduced price, or even FREE) to show off to the envious masses. For the rest of us, who expect a $200 reel to last AT LEAST ten years, I'll keep buying the ones that can be repaired in the USA. By the way, my Van Staals are all over 20-years old and they're still going strong, with no end in sight. If I ever do buy another expensive reel, it sure as hell won't be an asian-wonder, that will be "obsolete" in five years or less.

@Bigfish1day

4 жыл бұрын

LEO ASHRAE I love my VR150, it’s been dunked, dragged, dropped, no issue yet. It’s been on many beach trips and a few deep sea charters. Maybe one day I will get a VS X series.

@salvadorgarcia9108

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Same here with my shimano curado. Can’t find parts for it so now I’m out 220.

Having branding and product design in my background, I appreciate Penn's excellent trade dress of recent years. When you see a Penn from afar, you know it's a Penn. Shimano's product design seems random and nondescript. You could slap a Daiwa, Okuma, or even Sougayilang logo on it and fool people. Yes, those things influence my purchase decisions. Consumer surveys show that a lot of anglers enjoy being seen with good looking gear. A compliment on my impeccably matched rod and reel color schemes and motifs is as good as catching a fish.

I have a Penn Live Liner. My goal in life is to fish often enough to wear out a reel.

@SportFishingAsia

4 жыл бұрын

Eric Thompson nice goal! First time hearing someone say that.

@Bigfish1day

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you’re going to have that problem, unless you have your own boat and go out everyday with the same rod for years.

@kamadowoah4584

3 жыл бұрын

Go to barrier reef Australia. Lots of reels die there.

@ronaldo77782

3 жыл бұрын

Fishing team !

I fish a lot and Iam hard on my gear... My pens reels never last a full season with out maintenance or complete failure.. My diawa reels need maintenance through out the a season but always get it back to working order.. This year though I will be switching to Shimano for the smooth ride.. I believe best bang for your buck is diawa but shimano always has that next level performance with smoothness and looks. Invest in a van staal if you need a workhorse my van staal vr has taken a beating for two years and is still strong.

Thank you for the video, your channel is great! I use these reels every time I fish: Abu Cardinal 57, 55, 54 and 52. Dam Quick Royal MDS 5500, 4500, 3500 and 2500. Best regards Nikolo from Denmark

"When I throw this, my arm feels like it's going to fall off". 😂 Of course it is, the size difference in those reels your comparing is like comparing a Mack truck to a pickup truck. Get reels of similar size and they aren't that dissimilar in weight.

@andrewmorke

2 жыл бұрын

20K Saragosa is about the same size as Penn 8500.

I use Daiwa BG Spinning reel. I would like to see your review on one

@h4cfishing640

4 жыл бұрын

jun ryu daiwa all the way!!

@NE_Pigeons

4 жыл бұрын

Love my Daiwa BG 2500. Super smooth and has no problems reeling in fish. Iv used it for both freshwater water and light saltwater. Awesome reel for the price!

@thafoehammer143

4 жыл бұрын

You should try a saltist. Basically an upgraded BG

@MyBigAzzPimple

4 жыл бұрын

I have the old school bg90 for about 13 years and have no problem

@loucifer323

4 жыл бұрын

Love my Daiwa BG sweet reels

as an aussie im used to alveys and have sed them for everything and spinning gear is just odd to me saying that i own a dogfight and saltiga as well as a Stella and Saragosa ....penn have failed me to many times .

Penn reels are the best hands down I have been using them for the past 20 years and I have never had a problem out of any reels the quality is on point and you can feel it in there reels.

Shimano hands down. I have a Shimano reel that my dad bought the year I was born. It's 32 years old and i use it all the time

@Colonel1Bravo

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a great memory and a great story

I love Shimano, however Penn has the best sealed long cast reel 5000 or 6000 class. Penn does make the new fathom 2 magic cast

tackle advisors puts a clip on mic to the reel to show how smooth/rough it is. quick tip :)

@Ready_Fire_Aim

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, except hear what he has to say about the slammer =) . he does the best videos.

The Penn clash 2 is an awesome reel. I use a 2500 with 10lb braid for redfish, snook and trout in Florida. It is not as light or smooth as a Shimano, but the drag is amazing and the rigidity of the aluminum feels really nice. They only go up to 5000 size and it definitely stands up against a stradic FL

I just think they are different classifications. I love Penn, I love Shimano. They are two totally different animals and one is a blunt object, the other is a surgical device. I love penn that they just KEEP RUNNING no matter what gets on them or in them. I love Shimano that they are just butter smooth and reel like a dream with a silky feel that is virtually unmatched (except for Daiwa but that's another matter IMO) I run a Penn Fathom lever-drag 2 speed for my monster sturgeon on the snake river, and a Penn Spinfisher V 8500 LL which is the equivalent of the Baitrunner from Shimano. It's a monster of a reel but it casts a mile and I can depend on it day in, day out. I run Shimano for my lightweight 4000 and under series reels, and Penn for my big dogs. Love them all, but keep them apples to apples. This one was two different performers.

Love both companies and those reels specifically, I’ve seen both have flaws such as broken reel feet on shimanos and on penns the handle thing (note both freak accidents and are rare)

Team Penn bro. Those Shimano’s while being smooth just aren’t as tough in my experience and parts can be a challenge to acquire. My Penns have yet to let me down.

@user-ep8lp5ps8c

3 жыл бұрын

Stfu

@stepheno.2730

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ep8lp5ps8c GFY

@thefisherman0074

2 жыл бұрын

Same here man, as for casting lures the only reel that gave me trouble is the slammer but tbh it’s not really meant for imo. Just get a clash if you want a good light weight reel.

I am a Shimano guy. My Baitrunners are my favorite go to spinning reels. They have been submerged in salt water, dropped into the sand and never give up. I love the baitrunner switch just for pulling line off the spool without opening the bail. Their price point and the fantastic Shimano service department makes this reel.

I feel you, it’s like I’m listening to myself when I hear you . I have a cemetery full of reels so now I’m Shimano all the way. 👍🚣🎣🎏

Over the years I have tried using different spinning reels from all the different companies. Didn't have a lot of money so I usually bought reels that were on sale. Everything was good as long as I was able to go out and go fishing. Started with pier fishing (Pensacola, FL and Redondo Beach, CA) and eventually moved up to the Southern California sport fishing boats for near shore Pacific Ocean fishing. That was many years ago and now as I am getting back into fishing I am purchasing Penn reels for their metal body toughness and water seal protection. I want reels that will last for many years of use and that I will not have to replace due to weak gears or rust and corrosion. I read everything I could find online and watched KZread on what reels and rods used by those who go surf fishing or kayak fishing to get a good idea of what reels can take on saltwater ocean fishing. Perhaps as soon as I can get back into fishing more frequently, I will purchase the smooth Shimano and Daiwa reels. But as I said before, anything that gets you out on the water has to be a good thing. Fish on the line is always a good thing.

@HeySkipper

4 жыл бұрын

That’s a great point. I agree, anything that gets you out on the water is good. Hope you can get out there more often!

@jamfishingadventured9140

3 жыл бұрын

@@HeySkipper hi dude new subscriber here, can you give me review about Pioneer Reel Altitude thank you

@Kickthelighter

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. People like to shame for using cheaper gear and kayaks. As long as it gets ya fishing thats all that matters!

I think he trying to get sponsor from shimano

@sirconagato

4 жыл бұрын

Not happening....he is not catching fish that is big enough

@aaronanderson7619

4 жыл бұрын

Can't hurt to try, it isn't like he's a fraud and don't fish.

@fieshyfish

4 жыл бұрын

And you just ruined his chance

@Ligmanutz636

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t think they will sponsor someone who likes catching catfish lol

@BULLISHGUY-fg3so

3 жыл бұрын

He love when they reel say I love you😅

I'm running Stella's and Stradic Ci4s and considering grabbing a couple of Slammers based on spec alone. You need to maintain your gear in order for it to work well. Was down with salt away after every fish and dry off.

"I Love You" LOL. That was funny.

i love the penn fierce and the persuit line

Dad used penn so i used penn but when i got my hands on my first shimano i was sold

Where I'm from in California, we tend to float towards Penn. Why? They're robust for surf casting. They won't let you down, and quality is more noticeable. Your right though, shimano reels are similar to driving a Mercedes Benz, a BMW, jaguar,etc. There smooth, they're light weight, but... Based on my level of negligence, the PENN will outlast the shimano on salt water fishing. As for fresh water, i agree, the lighter,the smoother, the better.

Just changed my rods and reels. The squeeze was put on heavy for Shimano, but I went back to Pen. Had my old pens for 30 yrs, still run great, just better technology now. Had a fantastic run with Pen and you never ditch a good. thing

Daiwa is really the best spinning reel company by far I’m biased towards both daiwa and shimano owning some of both reels

@fieshyfish

4 жыл бұрын

No, the saltist is basically a Daiwa bg with better stealing for an extra $100+. Very low quality in that reel to along with alot of there conventionals too. Says a lot right there... I prefer Shimano spinners and accurate conventionals with exceptions for Okuma makaira Avet raptors, and talicas. Just my point of view.

@SuspendaS

4 жыл бұрын

Daiwa is number 2. Shimano is number 1

@fieshyfish

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuspendaS nah, I like the accurates and Avets. Some daiwas but I prefer Okuma. Ever since they teamed with Tiburon they have been making outstanding products! Daiwa is a cheap Chinese brand that copys lots of Shimano reels. The new saltiga looks like the Stella.

@fieshyfish

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuspendaS lots of people do bass fishing and don't see most of the top notch brands like avet, and accurate.

@SuspendaS

4 жыл бұрын

@@fieshyfish daiwa Is a Japanese brand, I should know because I live in Japan :) hehe

Penn spinfisher is also an option. They come in a smaller lighter sizes and still pretty rugged.

@Devilfish415

2 жыл бұрын

Ive had a spinfisher VI for years and its been dunked, dipped in sand, and caught about 200 stripers. Very dependable reel

@SmoocheeWallace

2 жыл бұрын

@@Devilfish415 I’ve been thinking of picking up a spinfisher for surf fishing. What kind of rod do you have yours paired with? Id be mainly throwing about 1-4ozs of weight

@Devilfish415

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmoocheeWallace I use the 4500 size with multiple rods, its a versatile size. I have a diawa emcast rod which is rated for 1-4oz lures and its a great fit with that size spinfisher.

@Devilfish415

2 жыл бұрын

The diawa bg is a fantastic reel also but i believe that the spinfisher is more durable

@SmoocheeWallace

2 жыл бұрын

@@Devilfish415 yeah I was looking at the BG as well, that’s good to know thank you! Which would you say is smoother?

“It’s like a whisper saying, ‘I love you.’ I died. BWAH-HAHAHAHA!!!! 🤣 Just picked up my first Stella. You won’t regret it!

@julianstolz3987

3 жыл бұрын

The new Saltiga eats the Stella's lunch

For the last year i have been testing the Diawa Tatula 3,000 and 4,000 for inshore fishing. Two days ago I just landed a 31" red and it handled no problem, I was just hoping my knots would hold. They have no rust and are as smooth as the day I bought them. I even dunked one in saltwater and when I got home to open it up, it had no water intrusion what so ever, I was amazed. Tatula's are super light, smoothe, and they will not break the bank. My only con is that it might be too light, but at the end of the day my arm is not spent.

Penn is such a more stronger reel from personal I have caugh easy 80kg stingray and on shimano they just get spooled way to easy my personal experiences

I've beaten the living balls off of all the brands I own penn, Shimano, Daiwa, and shockingly quantum. Never had any major issues with any of them

Great video!! Thanks for the info!! I would say that there are probably a few horror stories about Penn but for every time a handle falls off there are millions of fish landed that did t have a handle fall off.

Lmao...its saying "i love you" hahahah had me in stitches

Penn is pretty heavy but is more budget friendly

@frogliza9977

4 жыл бұрын

that slammer is def not budget friendly

@AznReflex

4 жыл бұрын

Baja Dan mine works fine in surf and in saltwater. And the sand goes for pretty much all reels.

@rianotrijaya246

4 жыл бұрын

Still better all around penn than shimano

@vincentjenkins3677

4 жыл бұрын

Facts

@vlastneme

2 жыл бұрын

@@frogliza9977 its less than half the price from a shimano with the same built quality (dont get fooled by the fan boys they all forget to name the price of the stradics and sara/stellas )......

Team Shimano all day baby. By the way mate the Penn slammer 6500 is actually a lot more similar to the Saragosa 8000 and the 5500 slammer is more like the 6000 gosa. Sizing with Penn and also Daiwa are confusing haha.

@linekerkb

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. He is using a different size reel to compare but Shimano all day.

His girl 👧 whispered "I love ❤️ you" and this guy immediately "I love ❤️ shimano..saragosa"

Awsome info bro ...thanks for sharing ..i completely agree with you..

I own many brands of spinning reals and some of my favorites are penns. I've never had a Penn cause me grief but it could happen tomorrow. I would think well of Penn if they made it right. I also would likely not use a spinning reel for shark fishing. I would strongly prefer a large Penn with a star drag but that's just my personal preference.

Try Dawaia BG and Saltist models. They re light and comfortable. Saltist allows a knob handle.

@h4cfishing640

4 жыл бұрын

Joseph Tien agreed daiwa is the best brand out there now between them and shimano

@MrTibanez

4 жыл бұрын

Dawaia bg is a great reel, but is by no means a light reel.

@JoeyT80

4 жыл бұрын

True. Its no super light yes but its very lighter than Penn

@MrKveite1

4 жыл бұрын

the saltiga is for people with a lot of money and most fishermen are not there, i have 4 of them and 11 stella's and in my opinion the stella is still the feinshmecker reel with fine tuned clutch adjustment etc etc while saltiga is a brute. They are both very expensive and both work. Period.

@patrickchavira7844

4 жыл бұрын

Joseph Tien the bg is one of the best reels I have ever used, so good I had to buy a second one

Hi Brandon! I think the two reels in this video are of different size classes. Although the nominal size numbers are similar (6000 vs 6500), the line capacity is quite different on the two reels. The 4500 version of Penn Slammer is closer to Saragosa 6000 in terms of line capacity. The 6500 version of Penn Slammer you showed in this video is closer to the 10K version of Saragosa. So naturally, Penn Slammer 6500 is going to be much heavier than Saragosa 6000. However if you compare Slammer and Saragosa of similar line capacities, their weight do not differ by much. Actually, the same can be said for pretty much all reels in the $200-$300 price range. My biggest thing with Slammer, though, is that they don't seem to retain their value relative to their MSRP in the second hand market. Their MSRP is on par with or slightly higher than the equivalent Saragosa, but the second market price is almost always significantly lower. I don't know if this is due to the difference in perceived higher quality of the Shimano brand, or the higher availability of the Penn reels. Or maybe Penn just likes to label their MSRP higher. Anyway, that's just my observation. Thanks.

@shockedinawe

Жыл бұрын

I agree you can only compare the 4500 size Penn to the 6k Shimano. They are around the same weight. However the Saragosa does have a line roller bearing sealing advantage over the Slammer.

It’s like a whisper saying “I love you” 😂

I think the spider man fishing pole from Walmart is the best👌🏽🔥

@HeySkipper

4 жыл бұрын

I..... really? Lol

@solboogie08

4 жыл бұрын

Saul Diaz facts bro I have the Paw Patrol version!!!!

@rmpruitt228

4 жыл бұрын

@@HeySkipper I watched an eight year old girl using a walmart kiddie outfit outfish a fully kitted flyfisher in colorado trout waters

@rdo075

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@mattflanigan5668

4 жыл бұрын

Chuck the Penn on the Spiderman Rod/pole and your set to catch most.

Im sorry dude but you need to service your reels after every use specially when you are wading trough waves, open them up hot water and lune them. Not once every year😂

@VuTang858

4 жыл бұрын

Gys de Wet After every use? I would service a year once a year. If you have to service a reel every time you use it, it’s a piece of shit reel. You buy reels that are quality so you DONT have to service it all the time. It don’t make sense to buy something that doesn’t hold up and require service after every use.

@Ready_Fire_Aim

4 жыл бұрын

@Johnathan Lo cheaper reels like shimano and kastking (kids)i was servicing every month, my daiwa sol (mag sealed) is still primed as the day i got it (6 months)

@Bigfish1day

4 жыл бұрын

Gys de Wet Not me, I surf fish and deep sea fish, after each trip I spray them with a very weak soapy solution and rinse them very good. Oil on certain points, No problems in 8 years. But I only have 14 setups to take care of.

@jonathancox9501

3 жыл бұрын

@Johnathan Lo It called basic maintenance ......wipe down with a rag with inox on it......lube the bail roller.(very important) ....and main shaft.....drop of oil to the bearings/handles .....spray over reel with inox and never leave in an air tight box....an airy bag will do.....keep it out of any kind of water and depending on use get serviced once a year.....never hose your reel down as you can drive salt into the small crevices.....INOX is superb and leaving a light coating over the whole reel gives protection and makes it easier to clean the next time.......ALWAYS BACK OFF THE DRAG at the end of a days fishing(just leave it on a tiny bit to stop any crud getting in there)...if you leave your drag done up it will compress your washers and fuck them up !....u lose drag and smooooothnesss.

do you not mit your rods and reels? or hit them with corrosion block? Ive used slammers for charters for years and they are all just as smooth as the day I bought them

Wow thanks for review idol I’m planning to buy penn slammer for big game jigging. What reel can you recommend for a mid price that has powerful drag that can hold plenty of lines.

Your Penn sounds like it missed greasing at the factory. I own both as big pit surf casters. If my penn had ended like this in under a year I would of sent it back to penn. my big penn is a winching tool I use for big shark, eel & ray It does the job very well. My shimano is more for the game fish like barracudas

@fischercustombaits

3 жыл бұрын

I had the same problem, new penn spinfisher and not enough grease inside.

Penn is much better because they have sealed bearings in the whole real is sealed

@jackreuben6857

3 жыл бұрын

Very tru

@michaelsy

3 жыл бұрын

I have a spinfisher 704 that I would not think twice about using while wading in the surf.

I've had a Penn for 3 years now, given that I don't stay by the coast I only get to use it for about 8 weeks a year and you best believe when I go to the coast 6 out of those 8 weeks are full days of being on the surf and rocks with it, money is tight so its the only reel I own, I've caught hundreds of fish with it, I've dunked it I've smashed it on the rocks I've caught bigger fish than recommended with is, I've had it be buried in sand, and yes it's not a good thing of me to do but I've never cleaned or serviced it but she still works like a dream, one day I hooked into something big, this fish almost spooled me, keep in mind the rod is rated for 70 lbs and the reel for 60, I tightened my drag as far as I could, because I was still new to fishing, and my rod broke but the reel held the fish fine, I believe in Penn!

You have great points. I have the original 460 slammer and only service it myself. It's incredible!!! I have 2 shimano baitrunners. The big baitrunner stripped it's spool out on a shark hookup and my smaller baitrunner has a bad wabble but I still like it. Weight on the Penn's is a obvious fact but they last. Great video.

Team “PENN” it’s more in my budget and the reliability I’ve had with holding and straight up putting work on big fish. I’ve never really had a chance to use any Shimano tackle but know it’s up there in comparison when you get up in both higher price ranges! Penn for sure has more power for the money!

@nelson442

2 жыл бұрын

What would u recomend for surf shark fishing slammer 3 10500, spinfisher vi 10500, or the spheros 2021 sw 20k

@andrewmorke

2 жыл бұрын

@@nelson442 One thing I should I have mentioned, the Spinfisher VI comes in a bait runner 8500 version, which is a nice option for shark fishing from shore.

@notsure7874

2 жыл бұрын

@@nelson442 If all you're gonna use it for is giant fish, and you're paddling baits out instead of casting, and for some reason you want to stick to spinning - the Slammer is a no-brainer. The bait runner (Liveliner in Penn speak) is great and all, but when you're setting a large cut bait on a concrete block sinker there's no point to it. But I do have 2 of them, a 6500 and 4500 (Spinfisher V) and they're pretty nice. I just don't use that feature enough to be worth it. I'd rather have less complexity most of the time.

Penn for me is just too heavy for their reels, while Shimano is smooth, sturdy, and a great feeling. I have the stella, sahara, stradic, stradic ci4, and twinpower, all are greatand long lasting. Worth the money

@TheDarkulaiby

3 жыл бұрын

May you suggest best one for long surf fishing pls ?

i had proble with bellarm roller its too much scrubing sound in it dont know how to fix this please guide me what cant i do for that roller noise..

I had a Penn Baitrunner..the grey and gold one back in the early 2000's and after a year it broke..so I remembered finding a Shimano while working on a barge in Indiana and tried it out and someone said that's one of the best you can buy..so when I went back East(home)to Connecticut I purchased a Shimano this time and never looked at another Penn again..the quality and strength of Shimano reels are amazing..I own several Shimano reels and my latest two are the Twin Power 4000xg and 8000pg..the 4000xg is my inshore reel, but I use it for freshwater too since it is very versatile and the 8000pg for nearshore fishing and some offshore depending on what's running..the 4000xg is pair with an 8ft 2pc Medium-Heavy Okuma Rockaway rod with 20lb Powerpro and my 8000pg is pair with a 8ft 2pc Medium-Heavy Shakespeare Tidewater rod with 50lb Powerpro..I paired them to fit me and they both work amazingly beautiful..

The drags on the slammers are amazing. So dang smooth. Something is up with your slammer. Mine are quiet and holding up well.

@DaveMars0

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! I’m thinking to buy a new shore jigging reel between Slammer 3 5500, saragosa 8000 or bg mq 8000. What do you suggest me? I need 300m of Pe3 40lbs at least.

Sealed reels are much heavier. I went to oceans east to buy a new reel and I tried out the 5500 to 4500 there was a very big difference in weight between those two so for the money I wanted the best drag system to the weight ratio. On any 5000 and up Penn it tends to be a much heavier reel. I do not own a Shimano and I was thinking about getting one I already own a battle II 2500 and the Slammer III 4500 and love it. I have fished my Slammer for 8 hours straight and there were times where I was happy I brought my sand spike and chair. My slammer has made short work of big stingrays and sharks as well as seabass it still feels like the day I bought it and it is two years old never been serviced. I took the spool part off and drag washer and cleaned them out with fresh water and any drag problems I was experiencing or grinding went away. I could rinse it thoroughly without worrying about corrosion since it is sealed take care of your tackle or throw your money away also since I was able to go in store to check everything out I was sure it was sturdy and I have never had a weird handle issue sorry to hear that I wonder if that is a 1 in a million occurrence I would also like to know how big this fish was was he trying to pull in Nessie of the Lochness?

@HeySkipper

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂 maybe he was hooked up to a monster. I think you make a good point about the sealed reel that I didn’t consider before. I agree it is well used sitting in a sand spike. Thanks for sharing your experience

personally i love Penn and have went fishing with some of their reps. they are cheap and reliable i own a few other reels including abu's shimanos diawas okumas and love everything but Penn for light freshwater applications but when i need a real workhorse i go for a big Penn they are heavy but unstoppable so don't be brand biased, pick the individual reel for what suits your application best. on a side note i have beat the crap out of a penn battle 2 for close to 5 years and it has never let me down

I have many different brands of reels but Shimano and Daiwa are my preference. Almost all of my fishing is saltwater and I caught an enormous ray in the Outer Banks with that exact Saragosa. It took about 25 minutes to get the thing in. I use stradic 5000 Fj reels with 8'' or 9'' surf rods for small drum, pompano, and other smaller stuff. Some people say they can be problematic in saltwater but I never had any issues and I do no maintenance. I also have a smaller spheros that I don't use much but it seems like it would be very reliable. Other lighter reels I use are an original Daiwa Sol, Quantum Cabo and a Quantum Smoke. Have some Okuma VS reels that were really nice when they first came out but the smaller ones have problems with the anti-reverse and sometimes don't lock. I have lots of reels but none of the really high end ones.

I have the spinfisher vi 4500. has almost 20 pounds of drag and is a lot lighter than the slammer. you are kind off comparing apples an oranges

@Ari_Calamari

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying what we’ve all been thinking.

@obelix-ps4bo

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

Honestly when it comes to spinning reels for saltwater applications, look no further than Diawa Certate, money well spent

@Offdaheazy

4 жыл бұрын

That’s baller stats

"...my shimano...listen...it's saying...I love yooooo...." you're funny brother. good job!

I love my 4000 fl stradic, I did put some upgraded parts, ball bearings and handle, and made it my new go to reel for fly lining live bait for yellowtails

@vannakken1681

2 жыл бұрын

I had 4000 fl Stradic loved it I catch 35 inches striped bass in Massachusetts

I have a horror story about my Shimano I had a 6000 Saragosa blow up dew to hooking a big tarpon!!!!

@mulletmaster2392

4 жыл бұрын

Spinning reels were originally designed to make casting lighter baits easier. They are absolute garbage for fighting larger fish. You want to target big tarpon get a conventional reel, much better drag systems.

@saltylawaia8958

4 жыл бұрын

Agustin A. That’s a first I hear a Saragossa failing on tarpon. A 10000 would’ve suited you better

@allengallion930

4 жыл бұрын

I've caught some huge 130lb+ on my Goas. But if I was just targeting the big ones like in Boca Grande, I would use a 10K Saragosa for sure

@sirconagato

4 жыл бұрын

My stradic and baitrunner blow up after catching some big fish as well!

@Ready_Fire_Aim

4 жыл бұрын

i hooked one kingfish on a nasci and it burnt the drag out in about 30 seconds and bent the shaft/pinion... game over. thats when i learn't they are all feltdrag even the stella. ha. and their stupid marketing on the socorro and the other one also the nasci. all identical. but huge price diff. (literally a 20c washer difference and some color) fuck shitmano.

Just a heads up you should service your rods more than once a year specially when you’re out in the salt water😂

I realize that this video is three years old today, but I don't recall seeing it before today. For spinning reels, I use both Penn and Shimano. I use a variety of Penn Spinfisher reel sizes for fishing live bait and cut bait at the coast and for catfish on my home lake. Most of my Penn reels are at least 20 years old and at least one of them, a 650SS, might be approximately 30 years old. I love my Penn reels. I do my own reel maintenance and the Spinfishers are easy to work on, have many machined brass internal parts that will be going strong long after I'm gone as long as they stay lubed, and many of the parts are still available should I need them. Actually, I can only remember having to replace a few bearings and line rollers over the years. I use my Shimano reels, all of them Stradics, for casting artificials. Though I haven't owned any of them for more than five years, they haven't had any parts replaced and I have only taken them apart for re-lube sessions maybe once or twice for the older ones. They are light weight and smoother than the Spinfisher reels, though I must add that all of my Spinfishers are larger reels than my Stradics. I think that both brands make great reels and I'm glad that I don't have to choose one brand over the other. A final note.... I have weeded out other brands of reels from my collection because of parts availability. It is still relatively easy to find Penn and Shimano parts. Thanks for the video.

I fish with the penn slammer 440 ssg and absolutely love it and have 11 years on it without doing any maintenance, this is the first time I'm doing any maintenance on it since I have some free time on my hands

Between the two I would go with Shimano. I fish Shimano, okuma, and Daiwa. Shimano definitely makes great products, but if you factor in price Okuma is the best dollar for dollar, Daiwa makes amazing stuff in the $100-$200 range as far as weight and quality. Okuma actually makes quality reels under $100 especially for light line applications.

@jamarmckay5514

Жыл бұрын

You must only fish freshwater

I got the gosa caught a 6 ft shark on it and now the gears are grinding!! It’s a weak reel I’m going back to penn

@-unactive-7240

4 жыл бұрын

#PENN

@-unactive-7240

4 жыл бұрын

#PENN FOR LIFE

@Nofishnoclue

4 жыл бұрын

On the contrast my Penn slammer 3 6500 failed in multiple ways after a season of yellowtail kingfish in new Zealand, never had an issue with my shimanos

I have Penn Slammer III 6500 and Penn Slammer III 4500, and I have no issues with them at all. I have no noise on both of my Penn Slammers, and I have used them every weekend. I pulled out many big bull reds and my Penn Slammers did not disappoint me at all. Smooth like silk. I understand that different people have difference opinions.

First reel n rod combo was a 7" shimano sienna 4000 fe ,I loved it so much I got a 6"6 2500 sienna fe combo .. Now I'm more into fishing n spinning I got a 4000 fl static,and oh my God was there a difference it was the weight of the 2500 sienna a ultra smoth with the 6+1 bearings I just need a good rod to go with it.any suggestions??