Shimano Facing LAWSUIT Over Broken Cranks - The Wild Ones Podcast Ep. 19

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This week we chat hill climb bikes, the latest update on the Shimano Hollowtech recall, rumours of Jumbo-Visma’s new name, and the bike stuff we’ve wasted the most money on. Here’s the full rundown:
00:00 People Are Angry At Us
01:32 Champion Hill Climber Changes To Disc Brakes
09:02 Shimano Facing Lawsuit Over Crank Recall
19:40 Jumbo-Visma’s Rumoured New Name
23:45 The Bike Products We’ve Wasted Most Money On!
37:30 Overrated or Underrated: Cyclocross
40:31 Overrated or Underrated: Triathlon
42:58 Overrated or Underrated: Parkrun
46:34 Shimano GRX vs SRAM Rival Mullet
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  • @AlbertBuckinghamEllison
    @AlbertBuckinghamEllison8 ай бұрын

    Hope it stops raining in the office so that my boy doesn't have to wear a rain jacket indoors.

  • @geetee4037
    @geetee40378 ай бұрын

    As a bike shop owner, I'm not telling anyone that brings a crank in that they are safe to ride. At best, I'll tell them it passes the Shimano test but that's it. I can't tell them they are safe or won't break - the situation is outrageous.

  • @thejeffinvade

    @thejeffinvade

    5 ай бұрын

    I had two ultegra cranksets and both got replaced to brand new ultegra crankarm with 11 speed chainring. Actually pretty happy with the results. I will continue to buy from shimano or SRAM, whichever is cheaper.

  • @gregspeakie4635
    @gregspeakie46358 ай бұрын

    I enjoy the cuts to producer Emily's 'this is fine' face whilst Jimmy and Francis cause 10 hours worth of editing for a single pod

  • @philballphotography
    @philballphotography8 ай бұрын

    I have a snapped crank story. Long time ago when I was younger and fitter, I had a cheapo beach cruiser which I rode somewhat ironically as my commuter. Hefty steel thing with those weird steel cranks that are one piece. The company I worked for had the idea of a group ride - a little tour where we would ride out into the Shropshire hills and stay overnight in a hostel then ride back. Because I was pretty fit and most of the other people were not I decided to do it on my old beach cruiser clunker - I guess i was flexing (foreshadowing term). Being a single speed this bike meant that I did a lot of the climbing out of the saddle, lots of heavy cranking at low cadence. On the way back, during a gentle climb I think I was out of the saddle the right crank snapped. The part of the crank where the pedal threaded in wasnt any thicker than the rest of the crank and right there is where it broke off. If you snap a crank when youre pushing it hard - you go down hard. My right knee took the fall and looked like corned beef. One of the group called his wife and they all waited around and scraped me off the road and put me in a car to take me to Shrewsbury Royal. I got some sort of novel new membrane stuck over me knee to help it heal - which was weird. It weeped and stunk like death and during one dressing change it made a nurse gag from the smell alone. Im not sure that dressing was good for it or not. I was also worried that they might try to put maggots in the wound as that was the new thing back then. Anyway I recovered from it and that bike never saw the light of day again.

  • @CharlieMay16
    @CharlieMay168 ай бұрын

    I'll be honest, I want more overrated or underrated. And would be interesting to see it go afield of Cycling/ sport more often. Get a rouge one in there each week. I feel Jimmy's opinion on something like baked beans will be incredibly entertaining

  • @zethjugos1250
    @zethjugos12508 ай бұрын

    The problem with the recall is that Shimano is being a d!Ck about it. They require the techs/bikeshops to diagnose and submit a report that they are not trained to do before any sort of warranty claim can be entertained. The issue has been reported as early as 2019 and have been denying warranty claims. To say there are a lot of angry Shimano cranks users is an underestatement

  • @jayobannon5359

    @jayobannon5359

    8 ай бұрын

    I had a hollow tech crank break. So when I took it in I was disqualified as I had put on a non OEM chain ring (absolute black). So, make sure you remove any non shimano chainrings.

  • @thejeffinvade

    @thejeffinvade

    5 ай бұрын

    I got two ultegra cranksets, 175mm is too long for me so I brought a used 170mm ultegra. I found out about the recall while searching how to replace cranksets. So I brought them both to my local bike shop, turns out both are showing signs of delamination and I got two new FC-08 cranksets from Shimano, R8100 crankarm+11 speed chainring. It took 11 days and my bike shop switched my cranksets from 175 to 170 for free. I am actually pretty happy with the results. I am in Canada.

  • @invisiblescout6335
    @invisiblescout63358 ай бұрын

    PON have no ownership in the Volkswagen group, they are simply their Dutch distributor. So while they own an immense amount of stuff (particularily in cycling), they are also a big distributor/importer/partner of a lot of brands in the Netherlands😮

  • @malcontent510
    @malcontent5108 ай бұрын

    Emily - I'm loving the way you're editing & producing the podcast now.

  • @Philatlondon1
    @Philatlondon18 ай бұрын

    Cyclocross is so much safer than road racing. London League used to be so much fun, but kids got in the way. Hoping to try a couple later in the season.

  • @kidsafe
    @kidsafe8 ай бұрын

    The Shimano full-recall cost analysis is not that simple. If Shimano has to suddenly supply millions of new cranksets, this comes at the expense of being able to equip new complete bikes, which is their core business. A full recall would be devastating.

  • @xaviermelendez2639

    @xaviermelendez2639

    8 ай бұрын

    Ha, yes, completely agree. The quick back of envelope risk/cost analysis done in this video is overly simplistic and incomplete at best. I'd imagine recall cost implications to be significant and non-trivial. Also, regarding the separate issue of a class action suit, the costs, if successful could very well include compensatory and possibly punitive damages and ultimately be quite high!

  • @DaveCM
    @DaveCM8 ай бұрын

    Ford tried that with the Pinto when they knew it would explode if rear ended hard enough and some people were killed. Because of their gross negligence, the judge ended up making them pay more than the recall would have cost.

  • @BabyBowDingBall
    @BabyBowDingBall8 ай бұрын

    Schrödinger’s Crank. Yeah that would make me nervous. I don’t have an affected model but I know for sure I wouldn’t feel any better if a mechanic said “yeah that looks fine.” My chain snapped while bombing a hill in heavy traffic and that was probably the scariest thing that ever happened to me while riding. I slammed forward onto the top tube and barely managed to stabilize myself and find a spot to cruise into.

  • @litespud
    @litespud7 ай бұрын

    Last time I updated the cockpit I bought a ~$12 stem on Amazon to “road test” the new position. I rode it for a month before I bought the “good” stem and then rode that for ~1 year before I finally cut the steerer to length. You can’t rush these things 😊

  • @shepshape2585
    @shepshape25858 ай бұрын

    How can you guys not know who Andrew Feather is? He's pretty much become a GCN presenter at this point. Holds more KOMs than anyone in the world. Top ten time climbing Alpe d'Huez. Super light, super strong. By the way, I'll take Feather for $1 on that hill climb. If there's someone not in the pro peloton who can beat him, I haven't heard of him. On the issue of the cranks, I think that lawsuit is the only fair solution for everyone, myself and my wife included. I've already had a set of their Ultegra cranks snap in half on the drive side while I was on a climb, and I was hurt, although not badly. Shimano replaced that set, but they replaced it with another set on the list. So now I have 3 sets of Ultegra cranks that are on the list, and the wife and I are now expected to ride these cranks until they finally fail? It's one thing for me to get hurt, but if the wife's cranks break and she's hurt, there will be hell to pay, forget about any monetary compensation. Shimano just needs to pony up and replace all potentially defective cranks. Period, end of story.

  • @rob-c.

    @rob-c.

    8 ай бұрын

    Feather might have his work cut out on the Struggle because it’s not that steep. His out of the saddle riding style doesn’t suit the climb profile as well as previous years, so riders like Ed Laverack have an advantage, purely down to how they like to climb.

  • @LukeGJPotter

    @LukeGJPotter

    8 ай бұрын

    Perhaps people have moved away from watching GCN? I just have GCN+ for the Races. I'd rarely watch the Documentaries.

  • @shepshape2585

    @shepshape2585

    8 ай бұрын

    @@LukeGJPotter If you have a KZread channel about cycling that's based in the UK, I would think you'd watch the other top British cycling channels if for no other reason than to keep an eye on the competition. It just makes good sense. And while I don't watch nearly all of GCN's videos, and I hate climbing, I do like watching Feather race up a climb.

  • @shepshape2585

    @shepshape2585

    8 ай бұрын

    @@rob-c. You're probably right, but I'd still put my $1 down on Feather.

  • @rubenjodar8699
    @rubenjodar86998 ай бұрын

    There’s something about this podcast that makes it utterly addictive. Please keep it up!

  • @ianbarkham5080

    @ianbarkham5080

    8 ай бұрын

    Emily...

  • @Daniel-dj7fh

    @Daniel-dj7fh

    8 ай бұрын

    that's abit weird don't you think@@ianbarkham5080

  • @Daniel-dj7fh

    @Daniel-dj7fh

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree, I mainly only listen to 3 podcasts, the Wan Show from LTT and Waveform from MKBHD which are both tech podcasts. And Distractibles from Markiplier, Bob and Wade, which is more random ramblings. I think I've got a 4th one on the list now.

  • @garethbutton

    @garethbutton

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree to I have to listen to their POD it’s awesome

  • @tomreingold4024
    @tomreingold40248 ай бұрын

    I have one tool bag ready to go for all my bikes. I switch it over quickly. It even has a packing list which is a google doc to make sure I have everything I need.

  • @NoahStephens
    @NoahStephens8 ай бұрын

    Intelligent, well-informed commentary from everyone involved; including the producer Emily. Well done.

  • @jongoerke8983
    @jongoerke89838 ай бұрын

    Love the show, keep it up!Regarding gearing. I have a specialized diverge with Shimano GRX 11 speed Di2. I swapped out the rear cassette for an aftermarket eThirteen 9-46. This required a free hub body change. I have a 1x38 on the front to get the right gear range I needed for steep dirt hills here in California. The 9 tooth cog helps me hang with my road buddies on pavement. My legs do give out eventually if they go at it too long 😅I’ve taken this bike with me all over the world and love the range. That said … I still love dialing in just that right gear on my road bike which is a 2x11 36/52 11-34. Climb anything, still go fast. For all the abuse my Gravel bike goes through, love the 1 by.

  • @simoncannis8500
    @simoncannis85008 ай бұрын

    Freaking bike lights. I think I have 2 headlights on my bike, one on my helmet, at least 4 I can think of in the drawer. the damn clips either break or on a bike that gets stolen. Guess what I was shopping for yesterday? Yep, more helmet mount headlights.

  • @BrianRPaterson
    @BrianRPaterson8 ай бұрын

    I've got two bikes - 1 road and 1 mountain - with a full seatpack on each. Mostly because of the different wheel sizes. So, no need to swap. But I've only got 1 pump. It clamps on the road frame, and goes into my camelback when I hit the MTB trails.

  • @LeeSemple
    @LeeSemple8 ай бұрын

    I have a few bikes, and they all have separate tool kits and bags, mainly so they are ready to go.... Also worth pointing out that if you own a Gravel Bike, MTB and Road bike for example; tubes or tubeless setup, quick links, pads etc, are most likely different anyway. So many repair kits, in different bags is easier than one heavy bag with every spare in it.

  • @maxlloyd3740
    @maxlloyd37408 ай бұрын

    I am a bag fan,bumbag,bar bag or Camelback. Depending what i am riding i will swap kit around. Two pumps though. Big one in Camelback for MTB and smaller one with C02 in bumbag,barbag for gravel or road. Great episode as usual guys!

  • @tomreingold4024
    @tomreingold40248 ай бұрын

    I also have.a huge pile of stems, and it was worth acquiring them to see what fits. And I might end up needing one from my collection for a future project. And I can pass them on to others.

  • @martinwarne
    @martinwarne8 ай бұрын

    The team name you were struggling to remember, Francis, is TDT Unibet. And their three-part KZread series on taking part in this year's Tour of Britain is very entertaining..

  • @peterthomas8053
    @peterthomas80538 ай бұрын

    On the subject of seat pouches, I've got two summer bikes which both have 50mm wheels with the same size tyres, so I use two tubes with 80mm valves. I share the same, velcro attach, pouch between them. My winter bike has got shallow rims on 28mm tyres, so it has it's own pouch which is the push on bracket type. My gravel bike has shallow rims, but with 45mm tyres, so has it's own velcro attach pouch with suitable tubes. I used to only have one pouch between them, and had to keep changing the tubes in it, to suit the bike I was riding.(and didn't always get it correct).My co2 pump and multi tool etc. sits in the seat tube bottle holder, in a used water bottle, which also matches my drinks bottle. p.s. I use some small dishwashing sponges to stuff in the tool bottle, to prevent any rattle.

  • @MichaelSnasdell
    @MichaelSnasdell8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely have a saddle / bar bag for each bike. As Francis says, all stocked up with everything. Same for Garmin mounts, GoPro mounts, light mounts etc.

  • @izi941
    @izi9418 ай бұрын

    Set of spares on each bike. And most of my customers also have it like that (those with multiple bikes)

  • @CycleXplorer
    @CycleXplorer8 ай бұрын

    Another great episode. Makes my commute to work more enjoyable, look forward to it every week!

  • @baham83
    @baham838 ай бұрын

    Love what you did there with Lisa-bike @ 22:31

  • @jaypoly
    @jaypoly8 ай бұрын

    Great stuff folks. I had my ultegra crank checked out at my local Shimano authorised dealership; no delamination but told to keep an eye on it.😂 marvellous!

  • @jamesmckenzie3532
    @jamesmckenzie35328 ай бұрын

    Shimano have a lot to answer for with the Hollowtech II cranks breaking. They've known about this for over decade. The suit is going to change the way this is going to handle the situation. What's going to hurt Shimano is the suits based on injuries which occurred when their cranks failed. This can go over a billion dollars.

  • @reinholdachleitner2069

    @reinholdachleitner2069

    8 ай бұрын

    Why change their manufacturing process.😕

  • @stevennorth6484
    @stevennorth64848 ай бұрын

    On the 2 summer bikes & 2 winter bikes I have individual saddle bags & tools & inner tubes with different length valves due to rim depth.

  • @walkerways8695
    @walkerways86958 ай бұрын

    I have a 2023 Trek FX2 with 35mm tires plus bullhorn handlebars and a 2000 Giant Cypress (hybrid) with 2 inch mt bike tires on it. I like to keep saddlebags with tools/parts for each plus a mini pump clipped to the frame on each bike. Just grab and go. The tubes are different sizes so two separate bags is easier and I won't forget to transfer the pump if there's always one with each bike.

  • @Aeronwor
    @Aeronwor8 ай бұрын

    I have spares on all the bikes in the family. But not the pump, we only have 3 small pumps and one track pump in the house. Just tried CX and it is awesome, to save my tech and maximum fun I went single speed.

  • @rayF4rio
    @rayF4rio8 ай бұрын

    2 bikes. 1 Sram, 1 Campy. 2 saddle bags, 2 sets of contents. 1 pump with a mount on each bike. 2 Head units: Bolt on the Campy race bike. Edge 840S on the Sram endurance bike (ADHX). And I have almost two extra of every possible component for Campy, with about 10 extra tires and CO2's and tubes I will never use since going to tubeless. So many tools I have trouble finding the right one.

  • @petergoebelsmann4631
    @petergoebelsmann46318 ай бұрын

    Very nice podcast with interesting themes. My comment on triathlon: I remember the good times in the early 80s when triathlon was still a young sport in Germany, which immediately excited me. For a little bit more than 10 years I practiced this fantastic sport. In 1996 I give up Triathlon, because even then this sport took on such a commercial direction that I no longer liked. And I agree with you completely. Nowadays, only the well-heeled can afford this sport. Nowadays I only ride road and gravel bikes. That also works with less money.

  • @Likelybiking
    @Likelybiking8 ай бұрын

    All my bikes have their own bags filled with the proper tools and spares specific to each bike and the same pump on all of them. I have 6 bikes.

  • @ralvesco
    @ralvesco8 ай бұрын

    Tinkering is so much fun! I love it!

  • @gregorylockhart7206
    @gregorylockhart72068 ай бұрын

    All my bikes have different size tires, so the tool kit varies. Example my fixie needs a wheel nut wrench, and the tubes on my gravel bike are huge. When I grab a bike, nutrition, lights and a Garmin are all I need to go!

  • @db79887
    @db798878 ай бұрын

    I’m like you guys I have 3 bikes and all have their own tools etc so I’m not changing over things all the time. Pod cast are great keep up the great work

  • @paulridgers4676
    @paulridgers46768 ай бұрын

    One set of spares per bike (3 bikes). Before I did this I (very occasionally) forgot to move the seat pack over. And, when I was moving one pack around, I had to remember that one bike needed a different inner tube size so I needed to remember to repack the seat pack for that bike. Which I forgot once to my perril!

  • @ashleyhouse9690
    @ashleyhouse96908 ай бұрын

    I'm not a powerful rider and I got out of the saddle on a short climb and snapped my chain and crashed. I tore my hip-flexor so bad I couldn't ride for several weeks and it was at least two years before any pain subsided. I can imagine what it would be like to have a crank break under a hard sprint. I've not got one of the Shimano cranks affected but have several friends who do. I don't think I would trust one going forwards even if the inspection got an OK. All of them bound to fail in the fullness of time.

  • @charlesreza
    @charlesreza8 ай бұрын

    I have matching tool rolls on each bike with tools specifically for each (road and gravel) and it is now so much easier to just grab the bike and go out for a ride

  • @leighharwood9415
    @leighharwood94158 ай бұрын

    Not sure about your prediction with Andrew Feather at the Hill Climb champs. He's absolutely flying at the moment and has just missed the Ventoux KOM by only 26 seconds. A one hour effort. It's going to be an amazing battle, can't wait to see your coverage. Great show as always 👏

  • @peterharrington8709
    @peterharrington87098 ай бұрын

    Yeah stuff that goes in the saddle bag.... Tubes on one bike, tubeless the other and different sizes to boot. Only one pump too 😞. Then there's food and water bottles to sort out. Waterproofs too. Lights. GPS. Tyre pressures... Sometimes takes me half an hour to get out the door!

  • @ClaggyPants
    @ClaggyPants8 ай бұрын

    I have one of these cranks which hasn't been used in a couple of years due to some health issues meaning my cycling has been conservative to say the least. In 2020 I put my record power through it of 1600w and I'm definitely on the heavy side. IT hasn't failed but I was battling with a clicking noise at the time. Best get it checked.

  • @kadenlindsey358
    @kadenlindsey3588 ай бұрын

    andrew feather has some of the best long climb times in the world, GCN had him on for alp du zwift and he didnt beat his best time but was still like top 20 in the world on the segment. Also true about the triathlon in terms of it being outrageously expensive, I get some entrance fees being higher because of the cost to put on that style of event, but ironmans being almost 1k for an entrance fee is dumb. Then to be competitive on the bike you have to spend at the minimum a few thousand. Tri suits are 3-400 to get a good one...

  • @Hoppetossig
    @Hoppetossig5 ай бұрын

    On multiple sets of tools: My fast/gravelbike has it's own set of tools but my two commuting bikes share a toolset since I can only ride one at the time and they use the same set of bags.However, I've heard collegues talk about their bikes and they seem to have one set of tools per bike.

  • @justsomedude7556
    @justsomedude75568 ай бұрын

    I have 4 bikes, there are some things I buy for each bike as I have forgotten to bring things with me, so to eliminate that, I put them on each bike, looking at you lights. Other items, like my tubeless kit, I put in my pocket.

  • @D-enson
    @D-enson8 ай бұрын

    On the discussion about team names and jerseys (again in the UK though) I feel like saint piran have nailed it... Black with the Cornish tartan, very few sponsors on the kit, a very clean look.

  • @andreasfreitag1997
    @andreasfreitag19978 ай бұрын

    Guys, Andrew Feather well well known from GCN!

  • @vehicle-stuff
    @vehicle-stuff8 ай бұрын

    On the saddle bags matter. I have 2 bikes, but they are a but different. One is a rigid 16 years old MTB with 26" wheels, used mostly in the city. The other is a 4 year old 29" hardtail MTB, used mostly on trails. Mostly, as sometimes I change their usage just for the fun of it. But I have two saddle bags and 2 mini pumps and one that you have missed - 2 water bottles 😉, .. and 2 rear non rechargeable lighs. Except for the different spares (obviously) both bags have the same things inside - tire leavers, multi tool (same model), tire glue and patches. Both bikes share the same rechargeable front lights. One for the day (very small - 25gram) that makes me seen, the other for night (220gram powerhouse) that makes me see high beam (for trails) and low beam (for city riding). Why you say. Well moving the saddlebag is not an option because of the different size spares and always changing everything else from one to another was a fuss. Pumps are not the same so different clamps makes them non interchangeable. Water bottles - that's the interesting part you say - the 29er can fit a bigger bottle for when I'm outside of the city (900ml vs 550ml).

  • @mf0u3021
    @mf0u30218 ай бұрын

    I had multiple saddle bags, pumps, lights. Then when TPU tubes came along I switched to just putting everything in a pouch that goes in my pocket.

  • @TimR123
    @TimR1238 ай бұрын

    You are not the only ones. I have a toolkit (mini tool, patches, tubes, etc.) and pump for each regularly ridden bike (4 with tools 6 with pumps because two vintage ones have matching frame pumps but I haven't dedicated a tool kit to them) And I was super pissed last week when I took one of the vintage ones out, grabbed a pack off another, only to get a flat and realize that the tube in that bag didn't fit. Grrrr. That's why one per. No thinking. Always there.

  • @sparkvideos77
    @sparkvideos778 ай бұрын

    Good point about the recall affecting resale….

  • @Bompah
    @Bompah8 ай бұрын

    I’m generally“one per bike” person when it comes to spares. I don’t want to have to make sure I have everything for a specific bike before a ride. And the kits are slightly different for each, like a gravellero pump for my gravel bike and tattico for the road bike. Although I have a local banger bike which has no spares, as I only use it for local trips where I have to leave the bike in public for a long time.

  • @anthonyfreeman2859
    @anthonyfreeman28598 ай бұрын

    saddle bags and pumps etc on every bike ! , each of my 6 bikes has its own pump and saddle bag, as bikes vary I need to carry different size tubes etc, even though I'm tubeless mostly I carry a tube etc , have road bikes x 2 , gravel bikes , both 650b and 700c wheel sizes , fat bike with 4 inch tyres ,and my plus bike running 27.5 3 inch rubber ... just easier to have their own spares and bags etc attached .. keep the show going fab to view 😁

  • @HarishChouhan
    @HarishChouhan8 ай бұрын

    My crankset is on the recall list. First it took 4 months to find one with 165mm crank arms, then another month to get left side power meter. If there is an issue then I’ll just dump it and move to SRAM Rival

  • @unknownguyguy9996
    @unknownguyguy99968 ай бұрын

    Regarding Nathans Question: I ride both, a GRX on my Gravel Bike and a Rival eTap on my Roadbike. Yes, eTap feels a lot more effortless, but I just LOVE the GRX brakes. The way you are able to modulate power is great on decents. I feel much saver than on my Roadbike. Brakes there are fine as well, but not as sensitive as the GRX ones.

  • @fantomx11
    @fantomx118 ай бұрын

    I have different saddlebags for different bikes. The reason is because I see the usefulness of different tubes, cartridges, plugs, and pumps for different tires, and I don't want to be out on the road and only realize then that I grabbed the wrong things for the bike I am riding.

  • @danwillygreen
    @danwillygreen8 ай бұрын

    Fit first buy later is great if you happen to live in a place rich with options, as individual bike shops tend to be pretty limited with their ranges, especially with shoes. And with shoes specifically, I've found that most issues come after a good length of time in the saddle, either due to the duration of pressure or changes in the range of motion over terrain and throughout a ride. There's no good solution for that IMO. I think more bike brands should introduce satisfaction guarantees, or like Fizik do with their test saddles, or even schemes where you can try-before-you-buy for a small fee which is then deducted from the purchase price if you choose to buy them

  • @Quevallyn
    @Quevallyn8 ай бұрын

    I’ve never supported a particular team; I support individual riders. Don’t care about UAE but love Pog. Same for Ineos and Thomas and Alpecin and MvdP.

  • @SuperNeilB
    @SuperNeilB8 ай бұрын

    I have three bikes I ride regularly - a mountain bike, a gravel bike and a road bike made out of bamboo. Each have their own saddle bag with spares in mainly because no bike is tubeless so I have the right size innertube in the right saddle bag to fit the bike. One of the bike is 10 speed, two are 11 speed so I also need a different quick link for the chain. Having a saddle bag on each bike means they are ready to use and I can just grab one and go.....

  • @andyand100
    @andyand1008 ай бұрын

    Long time ago before suspension on mtb had friend who did cycle trails he could run rings round most cyclists and was very quick on motocross bike cycle trail so underated makes me sad good show Emily ❤

  • @romankarabutin3781
    @romankarabutin37818 ай бұрын

    Awesome job as usual🤙🏼 keep on rocking ✌🏼

  • @michaelguerrera1463
    @michaelguerrera14638 ай бұрын

    Guys, shoes definitely. I went through 3 pairs before I settled on the two that I currently use. All 5 purchased on eBay and returned 3 of them no issues with refund. The worst part of it was the time wasted. The best is a pair of LG course hrs300 new without box for $11. Unbelievable and they are truly amazing. I did my first 50m road go and when I was done I didn't even notice I was wearing shoes at all. They advertise on LG that they mold to you feet and they were absolutely correct! A lucky gain for me. But I did waste my time and others in the process. And it was worth it

  • @h31sman
    @h31sman8 ай бұрын

    I’ve been cycling for years now without a saddle bag. I just throw everything in my jersey pockets. I would never buy multiple mini pumps for that reason. They never go on my frame. Trying to find the right stem length I can definitely relate to, though.

  • @LonghairAirsoft
    @LonghairAirsoft8 ай бұрын

    I do the same thing! All the same lights and accessories for all my bike. its actually quite dumb since my light has a quick release XD

  • @villageblunder4787
    @villageblunder47878 ай бұрын

    You should do an episode on the different types of cycle races. WTF is Cyclo Cross and Sportives? One serviceable bike but 5 different ruck sacks with all the spares like pumps, mini-tools, tubes and puncture kits.

  • @mipko
    @mipko8 ай бұрын

    I so feel you guys :D... I have already collection of handlebars and stems to fit my bikes and collection of saddle bags and mini pumps and tools. I have 4 full sets for each of my 3 bikes and one for my wife :D. It is getting out of the hand rather quick :). BTW I have couple other items to add to the collection... Saddles, sunglasses and helmets

  • @jikemenkins7098
    @jikemenkins70988 ай бұрын

    13:00 nice work

  • @jrother
    @jrother8 ай бұрын

    The first year I watched the Tour de France, I saw the old Garmin Cervelo team win the TTT and I was enamored of their argyle kit. Now that they're EF, I am not as much into it without the argyle pattern. Sad.

  • @compassionsix
    @compassionsix8 ай бұрын

    Set of spares for every bike. Bikepacking specific clothes, shoes and clothes specific for trainer and each bike. Etc.

  • @philipwebster6913
    @philipwebster69138 ай бұрын

    I keep separate spares and tools on each of my bikes but each set is different to reflect the bike it goes with and the useage or abuse it will get (road bike, hardtail mountain bike and electric cargo bike). Bikes are my only transport, so I tend to ride more than one bike per day on multiple trips, so I can't be bothered to have to think about what to take with me.

  • @adamrichman3840
    @adamrichman38408 ай бұрын

    Feel humorously self-conscious with the discussion around a saddle bag per bike. I feel I have done the exact same exercise of "oh, I need one for this bike because I don't want to swap to the other bike..." to the point that I must have bike #+1 saddle bag. And then got a top tube bag that replaced all of them. Thank goodness I haven't bought multiple top tube bags and just swap that one ... though truth be told, I could fill several of them with much of the same bits.

  • @larisonjohnson
    @larisonjohnson8 ай бұрын

    When is Emily releasing the Blooper reel of all the edits?

  • @aloha_from_bradley
    @aloha_from_bradley8 ай бұрын

    Another great show, boys. I was thinking about Francis' comment about getting seriously injured at a critical time (descending, etc.). Would you not say that a tire failure is the most common type of failure or issue that you face on a bike? Would that not mean that a tire failing would be arguably more common than even a crank that the manufacturer has deemed potentially hazardous? If a tire unseats from a rim, or if you have a blowout while going 40mph, you're done either way. Shines a different light on the question of whether or not you'd still ride a bike with a recalled crankset.

  • @HarMegiddo
    @HarMegiddo8 ай бұрын

    Great job jimmy on the math! Speaking as a commercial banker! Cheers! ❤❤❤ make my heart warm lol

  • @Hi.Im.Andrew
    @Hi.Im.Andrew8 ай бұрын

    Loving this podcast! I just gets better :)

  • @AdamMeadowcroft
    @AdamMeadowcroft8 ай бұрын

    I absolutely have a full set of spares for each bike. Usually it’s the same saddle bag as well but I have different bits specific to each bike (ie mech hanger) in the right one so I would be lost if I kept switching. Plus different size inner tubes. I actually think it would be an anomaly to not have a set per bike.

  • @sadlfjasdfacv
    @sadlfjasdfacv8 ай бұрын

    Cannondale absolutely sells rim brake bikes, they have three models on their US website as of today.

  • @whitebeardcycles
    @whitebeardcycles8 ай бұрын

    My LBS said its worth having your crank checked even if you think there's no current issue, so that they can report back to Shimano that your serial number has been checked should there be an issue in the future.

  • @draugmithrin
    @draugmithrin8 ай бұрын

    Got loads of bike, each ready to go with full bottle/s added. Don't carry tools/pump with singlespeed but do with everything else.

  • @robertsuede1122
    @robertsuede11228 ай бұрын

    i have a shimano ultegra crank that is one that is a recall. the day after the news came out i took my bike to a trek bike shop and they inspected the crank but did not find anything wrong. they still shipped it back to shimano and 2 weeks later shimano told me that I would get a brand new crank. one week later they shipped the new crank to the bike shop and it is a done deal. total time was 3 weeks. i will say that when i was riding the old crank i would here a small creak. the bike is creak free and looks brand new.

  • @onegrapefruitlover
    @onegrapefruitlover8 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I have a set of spares for each bike. Not matching, though. The newest (nicer) set of spares and tools goes on the bike I ride the most, and the spares that were on that bike (which were previously the newest, nicer spares) go to the second bike I ride the most and the cycle continues (no pun intended). Trickle down economy for bike tools and spares.

  • @johnsfulton
    @johnsfulton8 ай бұрын

    3 Shimano Service Centres in Newcastle. My crank is with one of them!

  • @the_rzh
    @the_rzh8 ай бұрын

    Shimano's DuraAce and Ultegra customers are the most upset by the replacement plan. They are offering modified 12-speed cranks as replacements which are not cosmetically matched to the originals. I have an affected DuraAce crank that I've fitted with a matching Quark power meter. Shimano's has no satisfactory replacement.

  • @grahambell9831
    @grahambell98318 ай бұрын

    Good team talk , good discussions 👍🙄

  • @ThomasFullSpeed
    @ThomasFullSpeed8 ай бұрын

    Love the podcast!

  • @alastairmerrill9349
    @alastairmerrill93498 ай бұрын

    Andrew Feather is riding a Lab 71 this year, not a Supersix I believe. Another of the favourites, and a former Hill Climb National Champion, Ed Laverack, is also riding a disc bike (Factor). Both are sponsored, so I'm fairly confident they would choose a lighter rim brake bike otherwise. My 5.2kg hill climb pimped Canyon Ultimate has rim brakes, but I'll be doing well if I finish within twice the time of those beasts Feather and Laverack!

  • @rob-c.

    @rob-c.

    8 ай бұрын

    Lab71 is the version of SuperSix he’s riding.

  • @maxbucky24
    @maxbucky248 ай бұрын

    I've never had an issue with mechanical grx clogging up in very clay mud. It's all internal and outer cable the whole way so don't see how any mud would effect it anymore than electronic. especially as sram in known for not dealing well in prolonged wet weather

  • @thamil1365
    @thamil13658 ай бұрын

    You two should strongly consider occasionally delving into Mountain Bikes in your videos and podcast content maybe even highlighting and reviewing modern eroadbikes, emtbs, how mountain bikes are on the road or even a video about dailying one from the perspective of rigid roadbike fanboys and covering the advances in belt drives and integrated gearboxes and advanced suspension systems such as the Incredible RockShox Flight Attendant... I also think you'd find the landscape is so much more exciting and rewarding outside of the typical roadbike box it would certainly reignite your love for cycling and bicycles, just a thought.

  • @aaronhamlen8215
    @aaronhamlen82158 ай бұрын

    If the crank fails while your riding & you end up getting hit by a car it will cost Shimano boat loads of money. I have one bike effected by this recall. This bike has been on trainer since the recall. My local shop has checked the crank they mentioned it's okay to ride. It's time for Shimano to step up and replace all the cranksets effected by this recall. My other bike has a Praxis crank/bottom bracket no issues to date with shifting or reliability. This will be my fix before next season if Shimano doesn't get this sorted out.

  • @DC-lu5qs

    @DC-lu5qs

    8 ай бұрын

    absolutely right on costing boatloads of money. Not just on the direct liability either - it would absolutely ruin their brand.

  • @JonReid
    @JonReid8 ай бұрын

    I have some spares that go in a wallet for my back pocket (dynaplugs, CO2, etc) and a saddle bag on each bike with spares specific for the bike (inner tubes, levers, etc), My mini pump goes in my back pocket.

  • @MathewGrove
    @MathewGrove8 ай бұрын

    one set of spares, changeable between bikes, now so quick it's like and F1 wheel change!

  • @jongom9328
    @jongom93288 ай бұрын

    We have a set of spares on each bike. Mainly due to weight or tire size.

  • @LikeACactus
    @LikeACactus8 ай бұрын

    Different seat bag for each bike, obviously. Different bikes require different spares and tools-consider tube sizes, whether CO2 versus mini-pump is appropriate, etc.

  • @jkotvis
    @jkotvis8 ай бұрын

    I’m not rich by any means, but I have my accessories indeed as per the number of bikes I have. Three saddle bags, three pumps, three multitools. Mostly also because my bikes use different tires. I’m just not wanting to change a wider inner tube in my saddle bag once I go for a cyclocross outing. Much easier having a saddle bag ready to go.

  • @logojones96
    @logojones968 ай бұрын

    If you have the money/sponsors you can get a disc bike plenty light now. Feather's Supersix only ways 5.8kg I believe, thats more than light enough lol. Im a rim brake user, but just saying! Ed has been on disc for the last 2 years now as well.

  • @barrytantlinger1033
    @barrytantlinger10338 ай бұрын

    Only about 25% of people would actually take their cranks in. Most recalls have very small participation. Meanwhile, I can't find a shop that actually knows what the recall requires. And, yes, I think about it every time I ride my Ultegra bike.

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