People who are dependent on their social media income seem to lower their standards significantly over the last year. I know they all have a dream of becoming financially independent by their own KZread channel but the time that KZread paid a lot for ads is over. Then they are promoting all kinds of crap someone is sending them from China just to pay their bills. As an amateur I never would buy a frame in china with 0 consumer rights. I'll get some used 5 year old aluminium bike for small money and be happy with it.

@bmwofboganville456

8 ай бұрын

£300 on a Chinese carbon frame from a well-reviewed brand is worth a punt. You just have to do your research and hope not to be unlucky.

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

I think you have hit the nail on the head. The days of mega youtube Ad money have long gone. The people paying for the ads (the bike companies) aren't spending anywhere near as much. There is too much stock and demand is not like it was during covid. Lots of influencers decided to jump ship and make YT a full time living and now they are going through a downturn. Whether it recovers or not is one thing and even if it does I think the outlook at the other side will be very different to what it was previously and what it is now. I wonder if Jourdain got his Elves frame for free hence the glowing review of something that was clearly out of specification.

@johnnycab8986

8 ай бұрын

That Jourdain guy is pretty much the most shilly of shills on youtube for Chinese carbon, I don't think most reviewers are nearly that bad. His vids are hilarious to watch because you just know that Elves had their guys watch your videos and write a script for that Jourdain guy to basically pre-emptively head off criticisms you regularly lay down on frames. Over the top shilling. Maybe the GC Performance guy is up there in shill vibes, although not nearly as clueless and ridiculous. Would love to see analysis of the new Elves Vanyar and Carbonda stuff (FM936 trail mtb is super popular). I believe Ridley uses Carbonda stuff.

@donwinston

8 ай бұрын

You are a dinosaur.

@theillegalimmigrant9314

8 ай бұрын

Hambini's reaming of Jourdain was polite by his usual standards, he must be getting soft now he's approaching six years old.

Crystal clear explanation on how voids can cause cracks. Thank you.

Got to say Hambini ,i have the Elves Falath PRO,with one of your bottom brackets-Sram AXS E-TAP=Winspace Hyper D67 Concentric carbon bars and a sell italia carbon rail saddle 7.4 kilo pin 54cm ...Its the best bike i have ever ridden. My bike builder commented on how well the stuff went onto the frame.One of my riding partners has a Cannondale System six and has ridden my bike,he even say wow its as good as mine.....Thats all i can say.

@runel7891

6 ай бұрын

In the end, all that matters is how the bike rides and feels

At the 9 min mark, I love the contrast between you (Hambini) explaining how the BB is out of specs by the PF30 standard and the quality check labels (2 of them!) glued to the frame! 😅 Great vid as always with straight facts and no-nonsense. 👌

I just got a Time ADHX with 2x GRX di2 for $5200(2022 model on sale) so I don't think it's really more expensive than other brands. It's the best handling bike I have ever ridden.

RIP headphone users

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

I found this option on Adobe premier which allowed me to increase the volume for the first 5 seconds, It's fantastic.

@dogukantosun5547

8 ай бұрын

Older fans will know that you have to mute the first 4 seconds.

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

It's actually 10 seconds but it's within tolerance😂

@KerenWang

8 ай бұрын

The higher volume IS actually for older viewers half deaf half asleep in front of their laptops

@puckloki873

8 ай бұрын

@@KerenWang that is correct. I'm avoiding a nearly freezing temp ride up the river road in NYC right now by watching this video. I plan on binging at least two more dyspeptic hambini videos in my kit before I fall asleep on the couch and pretend I went for a ride when my gf asks.

you are seasoned Hanbini viewer when you (choose one):( [ ] don't put headphones until you see Hambini appearing and greeting you [ ] you never miss shout at very beginning and hit play only after HP's are on

@LaurentiusTriarius

8 ай бұрын

I put my headphones for the intro. Makes me tingly inside and soft in between the two ears

@tootles74

8 ай бұрын

you are a seasoned Hambini viewer when you can spell his name correctly.

@cjohnson3836

8 ай бұрын

No. Why would I use headphones when I can turn up the speakers and let the neighbors feel welcomed?

@borano2031

8 ай бұрын

@@cjohnson3836 Correct. The more, the merrier. No one talks about that... Rgr

@lastfm4477

8 ай бұрын

Don't hit PLAY until you've checked the speaker volume is turned up to 11, and the KZread player's volume is all the way to the right. Also, wait to play the video when there are others that will hear it too. That's a true Hambini seasoned viewer.

Awesome review Hambini, thanks for setting things straight

Welcome back my friend, hope you and your hairdresser are well.

Thank you hambini for using facts and specifications to tell bike manufacturers all over the world that quality control on their frames is very important. Hopefully Elves watch this and the frames they make will be better. Hopefully.

deffo trust your quality scale after seeing that ad on the top right on the youtube section 🤣 man has taste, great vid mate!

On the subject of the latina ladies, i was searching for a new Spanish teacher.

@taburetca

8 ай бұрын

You can’t just close your eyes and delete messages about Russian lang. This only makes it more interesting

I love that at 25:17 Hambini's search history kicks in for the sponsored KZread ad :)

Good to have you back

I am happy with my two Chinese frames (ICAN and Yoeleo). I was torn between Yoeleo and Elves about 6 months ago. Based on this I"m relieved I made the right choice since the Yoeleo has been good. (Partly the choice came from some other KZread reviews, so not entirely luck). Note added. By the way, I bought the ICAN because of a Hambini review. Mine has been as good as the one he reviewed.

@kehlew0160

8 ай бұрын

Me too. But the Gravel X. And it's good!

@QuickQuips

8 ай бұрын

I've heard of Yoeleo being good from Ozcycle particularly their wheels. Hongfu is another. Trace Velo is a Chinese bike Guinea pig. AFAIK he hasn't promoted garbage but has ridden it.

Been waiting for this Vid! 😎💯

I'd almost rather the decals DID come off. They look terrible and proably add 50g to the weight at least. Thanks for the suggestions for what to buy. I'll keep it under advisement next time. Thankfully it seems I got lucky with my Pinarello "Grevil". No issues after three years, two Unbounds, several BWRs and 10k miles on and off-road. It is also my winter bike so it is not coddled and still wins me local KOM's (I'm over 50 and get no action so it must be the bike, not me.) My other bike is another Hambini favorite if not mistaken! The Bianchi is running a Hambini race BB and it fit like butter in my amateur opinion. No creaks or squeaks.

Seems you weren´t lucky with the frame you got provided. I got mine back in May and put well over 6000km on it, including racing. To be fair I agree with the bottom bracket not being down to standard (had to replace my ceramic speed PF30 with a one piece design to get rid of creaks at high power). The text is sprayed, they are no stickers. Since the text is glossy on matte paint it is unavoidable to not feel a difference since two layers of lacquer above each other. It is only avoidable if you have a full glossy or full matte design were the top clear layer is minimizing this haptic difference. All of the finer text and pattern on the top tube (which looks sooo good!) are high quality waterslides which feel very durable and have a nice touch. I see why they used this method since it would be looking good having such fine lines lacquered. On the topic of the carbon lay-up... Mine didn´t have any of these layering issues, and I was looking really hard to find something! :D The glassfibre being used on the fork has been debunked from being a cost saving feature to actually being a quality feature since it protects the majority of the fork (which is carbon) to prevent it from oxdizing with water. Elves has published a detailed report about this topic on their IG. Other bike brands use the same glass and carbon fribre combo but with the glassfibre being dyed black to make it invisible. Maybe worth adding that the quality of the frames improves over time since launch of the product which seems to be an eastern way of working. I experienced this when I crashed out in a race and had to re-order the plastic cover that sits behind the handlebar. The old one was solid plastic (like the one in the video). The new one had a flush rubber coating on the edge where it touches the handlebar when it is turned all the way to one side which is nice.

@tristonsmy2434

8 ай бұрын

Well said and written, I’ve not noticed any bb problems with mine, but I am light and max power is only just over a thousand watts. As for Aero as a barn door, I find it easily as quick as my Canyon Aeroad, and Hambini said probably not much different to anything else up to the speed he said. It’s a shame only the bad reviews get jumped on and praised. That’s social media and the 21st century I guess

I don't even like bikes, but I just cannot underestimate a good Hambini rimming.

Knowing the two sides of the BB shell are out of alignment, and having a potentially dangerous head tube is certainly cause for concern. Thanks for the recommendations on what MIGHT be better!

Ive built mine up with a sram red and their supplied BB, until now ive ridden about 2500kms and had zero problems whatsoever … their customer support is impeccable and should you ever run into problems they are on it immediately

@steinanderson9849

19 күн бұрын

how do you know they are on to any problems immediately if you've never had any problems? 🤔

I spent a long time researching this frame, watched the vids, including the frame built up by Cam which was ‘pre production’ and bad quality. It was going to cost me about 8 grand to replace my 10 year old Canyon Aeroad to a decent spec, my thought was, take a punt, if it turned out to be rubbish, I’d wanted a lot less money than a rubbish premium brand bike (Hambini has proved there are some). I built it up with SRAM Force etap for 3 grand, it’s 250 grams lighter than my Canyon, building it was easy, and I never noticed any loose fibres, voids etc, and trust me, I looked hard! I’ve never ridden my Canyon since, I love riding the Elves, no problems so far, after 500 miles or so…. And if there ever is, the frame and forks cost me what, £695? Plus there is the uk importer, and 5year warranty Conclusion to mine so far? I love it and I’d buy another.

@allenjay896

8 ай бұрын

tru. its kinda flawed to assume if these youtubers are really paid to advertise their products. but regardless of that, its given that their reviews of these bikes are definitely flawed. they are litearlly just the average rider/cyclists/racers... theyre not an engineer or a contributor to the development of the eurofighter typhoon, rafale, f35, and the f22... but one thing's for sure they definitely tried to recommended a genuinely good frame with a really good price that could maybe compete with overlypriced as hell western frames. other chinese frames out there are definietely suspicious although i havent seen the trifox bikes failing despite having a really bad quality after "reaming" by a few people in youtube. although the open mold industry are kinda getting good. sooo...

@dmitryhetman1509

8 ай бұрын

You could buy used frame of good brand for that money, or even whole bike, 3000,$ for a bike it's still very overpriced considering attention to detail, you could bought motorcycle which was much more costly to produce and assemble

@tristonsmy2434

8 ай бұрын

Exactly what I’ve been saying for a long time, I will not pay premium prices any more, there is nothing I can see wrong with the frame I have, and the ‘used’ frame would be ‘used’ not new. Also, I believe the decals, though some were put on shit on the Hambini frame, feel raised because, they are, they are on mat paint, not lacquered, if you specify a lacquered paint scheme, then they wouldn’t feel like they do. All down to personal preference things like that, the technical stuff, then Hambini has my respect.

@mowaj8562

8 ай бұрын

Where did you find a frame for that price?

@dmitryhetman1509

8 ай бұрын

@@mowaj8562 Used frame of course, or even used bike

My daughter almost had a heart attack with the hello 😂

I can see the desire to try this frame. On the surface of things, it looks attractive and low cost compared to a "legit" frame such as Bianchi, Trek, Specialized, etc.. As you pointed out, being out of spec and with all the defects, it certainly is a huge risk and unless you are an expert that can mitigate any problems, it is not worth it. Amazon has lots of carbon frame sets by makers I have not heard of (Himalo, Stradalli, etc), so maybe they are not much better. This was a very informative video. Thanks!

Just watched this, my experience with the falath evo has been very positive with the exception of having to replace the compression plug (was slipping upwards over time) love the bike, no creaks, very very stiff, excellent crit bike. I really like it

@nomadcarpenter8549

6 ай бұрын

Please dont ride near me with that deathtrap

@nicperez2665

6 ай бұрын

@@nomadcarpenter8549 lol I don’t understand why you think it’s a death trap

1:20 "The rest of the paint job is actually quite nice....erm..from a distance."

Lets face it a quality reaming always starts with a ‘bang’! Ask any hairdresser 😊

Elves has left the building

Safe to say, "Jimmy's" Pen was NOT working, thanks for the honest review Hambini..

It's so entertaining to watch. Love it.

My mom came in just before the Hello Hambini fans!!! Now I have to explain her everything… Everything thats wrong with the bike industry.

@shoos9315

8 ай бұрын

Now explain why Hambini is banging the hairdresser. And she asks if the hairdresser is male or female, such a Mum question.

I have an Elves Falath and the BB is BB86. The paint finish is top quality with NO decals. I suspect you have a much older or some sort of pre production frame. My other bike os a Ridley Noah FAST and my Elves is as good as it!

I’ve never been interested in the Chinese frame or bike videos. Yes they definitely bring in the views and money for that YTer as they’re very affordable, but too often after a long while, you do notice a fail video. I tried with a £60 Chinese Bar stem combo and luckily I found the fail before finding it on a ride. You’re correct in saying that we do need more LBS that can repair this, instead of fobbin you off until you can’t be bothered with shite service and fix it yourself😉 Cheers😊👍

@abedfo88

8 ай бұрын

Interestingly in my years of riding the only bike I've ever had that's failed is a carbon fsa slk seatpost. And this was due to user error when I tightened without a torque wrench mid ride after years of trouble free riding. I guess a massive dose of common sense goes a long way when commiting to purchasing these things. Also an attitude of not getting pissy if it does got tits up.

If he is taking 8 measurements and at 1/8 turn for each, he is really only taking 4 measurements.

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

I didn't want to say!

@bruceferrero8178

8 ай бұрын

@Hambini 😆.

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

@@bruceferrero8178 Comically, there is no symmetry as he goes around.

@bruceferrero8178

8 ай бұрын

@Hambini I have to explain to new inspectors at work when measuring diameters all the time.

@dosgos

8 ай бұрын

hahaha!

Thank You Mr. Hambini.. your hair as fit as usuall... xexexe..

@Hambini have you ever reamed Focus? They seem to fly under the radar as they are not a pro team sponsor but as far as I know they haven't had any major issues either. I have an Izalco max 9.7 which I love but would love to hear about the frame if you have any research or info!

@rjs_698

8 ай бұрын

There's a 3 year old video on a Focus Cayo - it's entitled "More Crap German Engineering".

That intro HELLOOOOO is more loaded than usual blasted my eardrums 😅😅😅

joaurdain might as well have measured that bottom bracket with a shoelace instead of that amazon black friday deal vernier

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

It's not like he has not been told about it, he just continues to do it and I think it's misleading because the customer is going to end up having a problem

@truantray

8 ай бұрын

The Vernier caliper is the wrong tool to measure a bore.

@shoos9315

8 ай бұрын

Best way to measure a bore is my other half, if she yawns - yep, that's a bore out of spec

@rollinrat4850

8 ай бұрын

Calipers are the wrong instrument to use for interference fit tolerances. The yo-yo in the video clip Hambini showed doesn't have a clue how interference fits work. It's awfully cringy. BTW, you can see .2 mm with a naked eye! This clown must have loved not even needing a bearing press to install his bearings. At +.2mm the bearing will practically fall in on its own.

@SethJayson

8 ай бұрын

I was going to say that caliper looks like the same POS I use. Even an art history major like me knows better than to expect it to be accurate to within 0.1 mm.

That stepped top tube looks like a great way to direct rainwater directly towards the bearings

@rikibike1938

8 ай бұрын

Its a downspout.😊

Great content as always backed up by spec sheets! Do you have any opinion on Orbea that claims to be manufactured in EU?

I just received a frame for a client. The BB low / high #'s are 45.64 / 45.72

Hello, Bearing question Is it worth replacing the freehub dt 370 bearings by quality ones (ntn 6902 5k llu) or just buying a whole new freehub ?

@hambini bruv, do you have a list of your best rated wheels? I'm torn between the winspace Lun Routte (I don't want carbon spokes) and the Lightbicycle AR45's with dt240 hubs & brass nipples. Both will have Sapin CX ray spokes.

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

9 velo would be my choice

One of the best video, very informative, enough sarcasm and expose the fraud other idiots on YT , 5 STARS

Can you do a review/reaming of seka bike? Particularly the seka exceed. I think it should be interesting compare the exceed with the winspace t1500/1550

You should look at out of plane. Is the bb and hs perpendicular? I’d imagine you might find they are

Regarding the jordain coleman bottom bracket measurements, are they cheap vernier callipers (like aliexpress quality)?

@Chunky246

8 ай бұрын

Yes

It's funny that both you and Mapdec, at in my perception, started to ream Ridley recently, my 2019 Fenix must have heard it with the worst season of BB creaking and totally shot bearings diagnosed at the last service. Not very optimistic in finding a shop being able to do the necessary without sending it abroad.

Would an engineering review of a high end bike include stiffness/ flexibility, this may have been discussed and I have missed. If it rides like a boat then what’s the point?

i kinda want another review of another unit... ive seen a few falath evo having the same "issues" but majority of the buyers ive seen doesnt have the "issues" inside these tubes.

What’s your opinion (if you have one) on cubes frames. I have a 22 cube agree c62 and it’s been flawless coming to the end of its second year. Although from what I can tell no one talks about them, no one seems to ride them (I’ve only seen one other and that was doing ride London with however many other people) What’s the deal, are they just more known for MTBs, just not as flashy/big on marketing or are they actually shite and I got really lucky?

Elves has left the building.

light carbon and proX all the way thanks Hambini!

The lad's video measuring the BB shell is absolutely shocking, which he does WITH A 'VETERAN' ALIEXPRESS VERNIER ACCURATE TO 1 DECIMAL. Sweet lord P.S. congratulations on the lovely latino ladies mate, we know what you've been searching for!!

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

I think it's from Amazon

@jlGenozzV

8 ай бұрын

​@@Hambiniso he over paid for his plastic calipers

@rollinrat4850

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't use Chinese tools if they were free and I was paid to do so. Complete waste of effort, resources, money and time. One of my bosses once bought a new Chinese lathe that needed to be disassembled and repaired before the first use. I would say 'show a little pride in your work', but all I can do is shake my head. This clown has not a clue!

@ph1ber

8 ай бұрын

also, measuring with 1 decimal accuracy (if that) and then giving a 4 digit average just because it turns the first digit into a 0 🤣

@rollinrat4850

8 ай бұрын

@@ph1ber The fact that all the measurements were 46 or larger tells me all I need to know. 🤣That's not an 'interference fit'! Even a high quality caliper in skilled hands cannot measure an interference fit toleranced bore accurate enough. I own some of the finest calipers made, but I'd be inspecting this with more accurate instruments. 🤣This guy's an idiot. Just goes to show how many ham handed, know it all idiots give advice on KZread. Apparently he didn't pay much attention in geometry and math classes either. .2mm is 'a mile' in this machinist's POV. Believe it or not, you can see .2mm with your naked eye.

where would you put Look frames? Between Cannodale and Time?

46.1 on a ‘very near’ gage 😂 Good job they supplied their own BB. Nothing else is fitting in there.

@TheAverageDutchman

8 ай бұрын

Measured with what looks like the cheapest set of digital "caliper shaped object" he could find. I'd be VERY suspicious of that measurement to be honest. It could very easily be even larger. Or smaller. Measuring anything below a tenth of a mm with a cheap caliper is... not reliable, lets put that way. If it's in known conditions with a good caliper (known good, in calibration or with some reference measurements on something like a gauge block) then maybe I'd trust hundredths. Better bet is to measure with proper inside micrometers.

@msmyankees

8 ай бұрын

@@TheAverageDutchman9:57 is that a digital gauge to you? The digital calipers he used on the fork are not cheap either.

@TheAverageDutchman

8 ай бұрын

​@@msmyankeesI should have specified, I meant the measurement that Jourdain did in his "review". Hambini is using proper tools ofcourse.

Any reviews of Carbonda CFR 1056? :)

Your opine is very much welcomed. Thx

"How's the quality of that Elves bike?" "...depends"

@truantray

8 ай бұрын

But this channel has established this is no worse than Euro brands now all made in China.

What about the fiberglass in the steerer, is this a way to save money or safe engineering? It seems to be being touted as a guide on frame quality? I'm no engineer and nor are most of the experts these youtubers are using as references! what's you take?

@edmundas919

8 ай бұрын

My limited knowledge of composites says that glass fiber is as strong as carbon fiber, but glass fiber is heavier and more flexible (can elongate 5x more than carbon fiber) and easier to machine. In manufacturing process it's probably cheaper to use single material. The reason i heard glass fiber is used in steerer is to machine hole to perfect roundness afterwards and for expander plug to better dig in into tube. I only wonder why glass fiber is not used in pressfit bb and machined to specified dimensions.

@OnzaRob

8 ай бұрын

@@edmundas919 I like that explanation, I just find it amazing that the "experts" are rubbishing a frame with no real knowledge of the engineering choices (I know this frame as other issues). The notion that if its not carbon it's bad...an F1 car isn't 100% carbon, it is 100% a selection of the best material to solve a problem. I come here to @hambini because he gives the Engineering reason...not the marketing or influencer BS!

Love you Hambini❤

Are the new frames of cervelo like the caledonia ,soloist any better or are they crap?

Hasn’t been my experience with Elves having owned two (one of them being an EVO)

Hambini, I would love to see you reaming a Pinarello. I got the impression from Luescher Teknik that they are good quality, but way overpriced. What makes you say they are terrible?

Opinion on the rectangular aerodynamics of the frame?

@event4216

8 ай бұрын

Elves have seen Musks' new truck and thought it's a thing.

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

Probably as arsodynamic as everythign else up to 30kph

How much top speed do you lose going from 2x to 1x drive train? Can you talk about that?

Hey! when (which year) did Cannondale become goid im shocked!

Hambini, can you run a course on effective crack detection for the neophyte engineer? Needs to take in a tour of the docks at Laem Chabang, I reckon

How much does it cost

Intrigued by the latina ladies advert when showing the Jordain video. Is that related to hairdressing?

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

Based on my browsing history

@kubackjeee

8 ай бұрын

This Jordain boy is a proper clown. Dude does not even ride bikes and knows shit about them. He's dome cheao ass larp

what about Yoeleo, where would that sit in the list of bike manufacturers?

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

They are in review at the moment

@uysy666

8 ай бұрын

@@Hambini what about Carbonda?

I think Jourdain Coleman has the regular affordable caliper that one can buy anywhere (at least in Germany) that all look exactly the same. They have a tolerance of +/- 0.1mm and are made of plastic that tends to flex quite a bit. I think his measurements do not mean anything and he should have the proper tool.

@Grzegorz_Grabowski

8 ай бұрын

it's for 99% from China, I got the same caliper for 1$ as I believe

@jaro6985

8 ай бұрын

Agreed, the measurements are essentially meaningless. He could spend the extra $10 for a steel 0.01mm caliper at least.

According to the Elves website - the two versions of this frame have different size BB. The Evo (which has better carbon and weights less) has a PF30. The Pro has a BB86. What's with that Mr Hambini?

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

There is speculation in the comments that they are from different factories.

the lovely Latino ladies ad in the Jourdain video really caught my eye

Re: Time Bikes - they're having a sale on their frames, and you can get amazing deals right now, here in thr US at least

Finally! ❤

I have a Elves for over a year, first class service and communication, no issues.

As an Elves Falath Pro owner I can say that I've not seen any of your problems on my frame. I could post you pictures somewhere if you want to look how the bb looks and headset mounts. My decision to buy this frame was mostly based on the price, looks and weight and the fact that my Supersix was obliterated by a woman in red Fiat Punto. I watched Cam Nicholls videos to know more about this company, and how they operate, then took my risk. Watching Jourdain video I said a big no to his channel after one video. I wanted to go for Vanyar but was scared after your video when i saw how thin are those walls around the headset. On Falath Pro it looks more promising. I feel like this could be their best made frame, however they will probably now focus on making the Falath Evo their flagship. For now i have done around 2k km on it and had no big issues. Only the steerer got a little bit loose but I think this was due to shop not torquing it to spec, because after my correction it didn't happen again. Got it to 7,4kg on rim brakes with Roval Clx50, and groupset (Ultegra6800/105 5800) taken from my supersix. With total price well below 2000 pounds. Feel free to ask anything.

@three10media

8 ай бұрын

If you did it again, would you go with Falath Pro or Evo?

@kkaarrllooss01

8 ай бұрын

@@three10media Well I don't actually know, not long enough having it. If I would buy a new frame again I think then yes. The other option I considered was Winspace and Yoeleo, but they are 50% and more expensive, while I was on a tight budget. I also considered getting second hand bike and probably if about the time that I ordered a bike were any good deals around, I wouldn't buy it. There was a deal for Rose Xlite Six on discs and Ultegra di2 from official store for about 2300 pounds but delivery times were for late November and I wanted to get back on bike Asap.

@kkaarrllooss01

8 ай бұрын

@@three10media I don't know why I Completely misunderstood the question, didn't read it fully. I think with Pro, as Evo is only disc brakes and I didn't want to sell and then buy whole groupset. Also the geometry was easier to get it right, Falath Pro in 56 was somewhere around my Supersix whilst Falath Evo was completely of the charts while comparing them.

Hmmm Jourdain...why is your bottom bracket creaking?

I identify as a orange tecky pencil thingy. Great vid, thank you. Chris

The styling reminds me of the Raleigh Wildcat I had as a kid.

@hambini would you like to xray some frames youre reviewing?

Great video! How do you rate the new carbon frameset from Joe/Pandapodium?

24:00 I remember seeing this part of the video and doing a face palm... Even if the average measurement is only a little bit off, the fact that the biggest disparity is 0.2mm is REALLY bad! It's like saying, "oh, the shell is off by 1cm vertically and -1cm horizontally, but that makes the average perfect!", which simply doesn't make sense!

@Gregorius421

8 ай бұрын

Using a 3$ vernier is another facepalm. Its resolution is only 0.1mm...

@Xarx42

8 ай бұрын

@@Gregorius421 That was exactly my thought! You wanna measure accurately differences smaller than 1 mm with a tool that can only display 0,1 increments?! ...

Hambone you gave us the Hunt pre-ream but no follow up. Did they buy you?!

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

watch and wait

You have two good days with these new bikes,the day you buy it and the day you sell it.all good until you need to start changing bits and tracking stuff down.ill stick with all my old 90s bikes..ive given my di2 bike to my son.

@puckloki873

8 ай бұрын

Got any other bikes you don't want, dad?

@giogio4833

8 ай бұрын

@@puckloki873 home made tandem in garage if you fancy😘

@puckloki873

8 ай бұрын

@@giogio4833 thanks dad. I think I'll wait to inherit that one. Happy to wait a long time 🤗

I would like to see Elves Eglath in your channel!

is it any worse than the 8k brand name framesets though?

Please check your weights. I have found a difference if the scale is on a hard surface or a soft surface.

Hambini, I wouldn't put cannondale in the list. The tolerances are terrible and they don't honor their warranty. If you want photos and videos I can send it to you so you a can laugh a little bit. Cheers!!

You didn't mention that measuring to that tolerance with a measuring stick let alone a dodgy cheapo one won't get the right size anyway. It needs measuring with a proper bore mic like your Mitatoyo.

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

I was still in a state of disbelief, but you are right

@bikedockbicycles

8 ай бұрын

I can remember watching the original video and thinking it was a joke.

@rollinrat4850

8 ай бұрын

You can accurately use telescoping gages and a micrometer to inspect bores. Within .0001" with practice. Use a calibrated ring gage to practice and get the perfect feel. Much more affordable than the bore gages.

Back in force.

What about Chinese Specialized all frames made in China as well with price tag out from this world ?

Still getting action over 50! 😎 You are still the only person I trust on the interwebs

@PanSkrzetuski

8 ай бұрын

I laughed seeing Merkel at the top.

My Fuji (2020) has PF30. Think they still use it

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

Your special

@paulschulman8131

8 ай бұрын

My hairdresser says the same thing 😁

Thanks for clarifying how they made the toptube/stem so sleek; I thought they'd invented some new design to achieve this not realising they simply just changed the toptube angle.

Jordan Coleman, I had a great experience with this bike besides the horrible time I had while riding it and trying to maintain it. Other than those two shortcomings it is a fantastic bike. 👍 And yes I was paid for my review, 2.2 billion dollars so I said what I had to say to get that sweet sweet $ ☝️👌👍

Hey guys! What do you do with a carbon bike frame that you are not going to sell?

@borano2031

8 ай бұрын

I guess the answer would be: 1. You give it, or throw it, away. 2. You keep it. Rgr

@djvasforever

8 ай бұрын

@@borano2031 Question is, where do I throw it away with all modern regulations. Is there recycling of this stuff?

@borano2031

8 ай бұрын

@@djvasforever Google "carbon fbre recycling" and there´s an answer. Probably different in different countries, how it works in your, I don´t know. Carbon fibre also burns pretty well, I can´t see any regulations there. Rgr

Loving how all the negative comments are coming from the non elves owners and there's nothing but positives coming from the owners that have put thousands of miles on them riding and racing 😆. To me this speaks a million more words than any video made for content to gain a few extra followers. Im on 2400mile on my Evo without any issue and the reseaon I switched to Elves is because my Gaint TCR frame cracked whilst riding it.

@Hambini

8 ай бұрын

If people are objective about this, the frame is out of spec. of the two that were featured, both were out of spec and Cam Nicholls one which was pre-production had other problems. The area around the headset doesn't look great and the insides feel like razor blades. I've presented a factual assessment of the frame and concluded it was not great. People are more than welcome to say the frame rides great and they have x thousand miles on them but some of their assessments are subjective and not based on fact. I suspect, the faults are within their frames as well but they are unaware of them.

@caldingennarakis1328

8 ай бұрын

@@Hambini I’ve also heard nothing but positive feedback from every single person who owns an elves. Their bikes likely have the same “faults” but it seems it doesn’t effect performance or ride quality. If it’s not visible and it doesn’t effect performance then it begs the question….does it really matter? It’s like a scratch on the metal on the inside of a car door, no one is ever gonna see it and it doesn’t affect the drive of the car whatsoever.

@stevewilliams5428

8 ай бұрын

@@caldingennarakis1328 Until the frame snaps going down a 20% hill and hitting the brakes. Your car door analogy is nonsense.

@caldingennarakis1328

8 ай бұрын

@@stevewilliams5428 yet despite 1000’s of frames being sold, there doesn’t seem to be any reports of that occurring.

@stevewilliams5428

8 ай бұрын

@@caldingennarakis1328 Put ... Broken Dreams: 150 cracked carbon frames… In your YT search bar. No need to thank me.

You can buy elves frames in the UK now