wow, apple has a patent to "rounded corners on a rectangle device". *that is **_unbelievably absurd._*

@M3rVsT4H

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, hard to consider that an invention as such. But then an Australian chocolate company spent five years and millions trying to trademark the color purple.

@joebazooks

7 жыл бұрын

Merv what the fuck is wrong with people, seriously...

@M3rVsT4H

7 жыл бұрын

/ I'm going to go with greed.

@joebazooks

7 жыл бұрын

Merv spot on. greed, selfishness, and short sightedness.

@joebazooks

7 жыл бұрын

they already won a lawsuit against samsung for infringement, and samsung was initially ordered to give them all of their income/profits despite there being significant differences in addition to the similarities between the two phones :/

So incredibly cool! Best documentary I have seen in years. Extremely well done!

Having only just started working with electronics, I'm blessed (and honestly, a little surprised, as I never dealt with electronics and hardware before) to have SZ just across the boarder. Love the series, looking forward to the next episode.

awesome channel... it is the first time i have visited this and i love ot after watching 3 videos on shenzhen.....

Really wonderful view of an ecosystem of people living and sharing ideas. Most accurate view I've seen in a long time re the vibrant underground--well, now overground--culture of crazy differentiation and innovation!! I'm still smiling from ear to ear from watching it

@wireduk

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks James, we're glad you enjoyed it. Subscribe, if you haven't already, for a new episode on Tuesday 28th June

@wireduk

8 жыл бұрын

po.st/SubscribeWired

@MartinOShieldWindyCitySDR

7 жыл бұрын

Dude, I'm from Chicago, the city that started the USA's, then the World's Mobile Phone Industry, whom Motorola SHIPPED its ENTIRE PCB Board Manufacturing & Intellectual Property to China eliminating 300,000 careers for Chicago, Illinois USA. "The West's" mentality did that to itself and won't invest in its own people like China does. GINORMOUS DIFFERENCE!

@krawnly

7 жыл бұрын

Please make a state.. i would like to know what you really mean..

Incredible window into the ecosystem of Shenzhen. Keep the episodes coming :)

Fantastic piece!!

Thanks again

Amazing series. I have been to Shenzhen many times, but have never known all of this was going on.

@wireduk

8 жыл бұрын

Make sure you subscribe for more great videos coming soon! po.st/SubscribeWiredUK

Really offers from fresh insights..

nice series

copyright doesn't creates monopolies. it saves an idea and allows a company to grow, make money and make better products. every product I saw from small companies in china was of the worst quality and very cheap.

@DigitalYojimbo

7 жыл бұрын

dima4983 it's basically saying when you're done paying your mortgage on your house anyone can come and move in with you, because socialism is good *sarcasm*. SMH

@Ryan-wx8of

7 жыл бұрын

That's not socialism, socialism just means using my tax money to help people who need it.

@ayushmanthapa_onion

6 жыл бұрын

Open market makes sure such cheap iphone knock ups NEVER do better than the real thing.

Love this series! Besides that, Andrew Huang does an awesome job at explaining the differences between Western and Eastern points of view

@shake6321

7 жыл бұрын

+tenminutetokyo No one can own an idea. the fact that we in the west think we can own an idea is the problem. Patents wont work in a global economy. This is a good thing. it forces people to innovate, it drives down costs and creates more equality,

@M3rVsT4H

7 жыл бұрын

+amer shakir can you give an example of where reverse engineering has led to innovation and equality?

@shake6321

7 жыл бұрын

Merv China is the main example. By reverse engineering they are more equal to the U.S. Although inequality in the West is on the rise, global inequality is on the decline.

@M3rVsT4H

7 жыл бұрын

amer shakir So much for innovation then huh. Oh well, I'm sure the people working 15 hours a day for 50c an hour are really enjoying their equality.

@shake6321

7 жыл бұрын

Merv First come imitation. Then come innovation. Thats how competition works. Yes, people in China are now happier than ever. Happiness is based on expectations. It is better to make 50C and hour than to make 50C a day working on a farm - That is what people in china did for the past 500 years.

Great work ! How do I create a series for you ?

I love this series! Shenzhen is the best city! Miss it so much.

this was incredible. Wired UK you have made my day

Interesting, authentic and well done!

Love the Star of David necklace on the Chinese dude xD

Looking forward to next episode.Great video!

China, you seem to be stuck on the word "sharing" when you should really be defining the word "maker".

I like that cigar dude's star of david necklace XD

12:31 Someone should build an app for that.

I'm in love. You've convinced me. I'm moving to Shenzhen!

i feel like this has parallels to remix and sample culture in music

Outstanding piece. So eye opening & informative 👍

amazing video...thanks tech altar for getting me here

Awsome documentary, thanks for sharing! Very interesting to see this side of china. Interesting to think about how in todays world in the west when something is "made in china" people automatically think its garbage.. i wonder if thats going to change.

I need that fridge.

Whats the song that plays at the start?

8 жыл бұрын

soundcloud.com/robmartland/tambiosi

Seems like those shanzhai products are less well made and the idea that these products are made better that the 'name brand' isn't entirely true. Also it seems weird that if their shanzhai edition is better and has 'less fat' etc etc why do they still insist on using the brand name? Like that shanzhai iphone with the extra battery and sim slots, if it's a better product why ride on the coat tails of the Apple brand? I doesn't seem like they Robin Hooding a closed product into a better one for the poor but riding on the brand development of the likes of Apple and all Apple has done not just to design a product but build a brand/style.

Wow..exactly why I'm moving to Shenzhen. Are there internships available?

What the song they keep using?

I wonder how can they only say the good things, those copycat products are really terrible, and even dangerous. Only serious brands make serious products with serious consideration about quality.

@xsk8

8 жыл бұрын

Not to mention these cloners are hurting the real innovators and killing small hardware businesses that are actually trying to bring value on the market.

Nice video! But... What about costumer service? Is there any warranty? Who is answering emails/calls?

@LoyLee

8 жыл бұрын

I purchased things in Shenzhen for less than USD$10 and returned it several weeks later when theres a problem. Many vendors might not have the budget for expensive call centres and customer service services, But if you return to the store they'll help. They want you to return to purchase again ultimately.

*pause* "I forgot who signed this, it's someone who is famous" *shruggs* "I forgot" - I damn near fell out of my chairs hearing that, had to go back numerous times to rewatch it. That's like one the most baller things I've heard to date.

Shenzhen is becoming the arxiv and wikipedia of EE technology?

Patents aren't there to protect the person who "Got in first" They are intended to protect the people who have an idea and spend all their money and years of their lives proving that it works.. Yes Patent trolls are bad.. and yes patent law needs some serious work.. But Patents themselves are not a bad thing at all. And reverse engineering other peoples designs does not make one an innovator.

@jasonbourne359

7 жыл бұрын

I'm still waiting for someone that will spend trillions of dollars and spend entire lifes of investigators and doctors to develope cancer cure, so then I can take the "free" pill for 1 dollar, seriously I'm still waiting but I know that will never happen because the people that have the money to do it will never do it because will be accused of "bad people" for not give the cure for free, I'm very sure that who whatever develops cancer cure will be accused to spread cancer to make money and thinks like that. This is the world we live, YOU HAVE WHAT YOU DESERVE, NOTHING IS FREE, THE LIFETIME IS LIMITED, IM EATING THE CHESEE FVCKERS.

@jasonbourne359

7 жыл бұрын

I like the part when a dude says: "don't fight with patents simply build a brand arround it", then proceeds to show all "brand counterfeits and reproductions for people that can't afford the original brand" LOOOL, is this for real?

@longdog33

5 жыл бұрын

Big American companies didn’t spend billions on R and D to develop their products. They used technologies developed in the public sector like universities, NASA, pentagon, DARPA using public money. Take the internet, Wifi, computers, early semiconductors, touch screen, gps. All developed with public money. R and D using public money, profits privatized. That’s how the economy works.

@williamjeffrey1222

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonbourne359 Good case . Now seeing that some countries view the ideal that stealing someones lifetime achievement is just then lets assume maybe that person has already perfected it but hasn't release it to the public yet ? It stands to good reasoning that the answer is ,..because the nations that see stealing some else work is no longer criminal . What would be the point ? To expose your great work ? Where is the monetary gain when some other nation will purposely fund a state owned company to out produces you and take all the thunder . Because you as a small inventor have limited resources . It's a very good reason why communist countries can't ever develop because they take away incentive to achieve and wealth for ones property as a reward for producing wealth. either nationally or personally . So, the cure to cancer would stay in limbo because of lawlessness .

In some way the western market ends up doing the same thing - even worse, with public recognition one brand came up with something the Chinese or other Asian markets came up with first. Take for example dual cameras, which were introduced by both HTC and LG, and followed by the Chinese Huawei. Yet Apple features it on their device with a price tag of twice the price of the previous devices, and all the credit from casual users.

2:20 What is a "patent trade off" ?

@PointyGorman

8 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure exactly what he meant, but usually the 'patent bargain' is the idea that patenting something means everyone knows how it works, but you are protected from others patent trolling you etc. So you lose your monopoly, but it allows you to continue forward without obstruction. For example WD-40 is not patented and thus has basically a monopoly. If it were patented then clones would appear instantly, but they would be safe from litigation and they would gain reputation (though WD-40 has been around long enough to have substantial reputation). I think this is what he was talking about.

@thomaslee3716

8 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but given the context I think he means it as an actual 'trade', i'll let you use this patent if you let me use your patent. Although if that were true then using 'trade-off' is a weird of expressing that, so take my guess for what it's worth...

@jzvr5842

8 жыл бұрын

I think it's something like what Apple and Huawei have, Huawei licensing 800-900 patents to Apple and Apple licensing 88 to Huawei in return and paying over 100 million USD a year on top to use Huawei's patents.

14:45 maguen david?

Was this before or after lithium batteries started exploding in these innovative products?

Why does it appear to me that English speaking Chinese looking guy, Will make hardcore cool samurai in medieval Japan?

5:23 my wife

Anyone here who didn't hear about RISC-V should check it out

as an IP professional, this is all very entertaining. The "devil is in the details" all of this is really great and well intentioned. The folks who comment are mixing-up "terms of art" which is confusing and this is where it becomes deceptive. Each is talking about brands, patents, copyrights and alluding to trademarks- these mean specific things. Andrew, bless him says that a patent is world-wide, it is not unless a patent holder files for protection in each jurisdictions separately. All IP is local. Why not actually have an IP lawyer provide a view? The folks commenting on anecdotes - not reality. Fact is the comment on "rounded rectangles" is a design patent in China- valid only for 5 years- I could go on. This is why folks get confused as to what is what, they are discussing things that frankly they do not understand the rules and commenting/making conclusions not understanding what is precisely IP rights. It would be like folks commenting on football, but not understanding the actual rules of the game. This leads to misunderstanding by the general public.

"DINGDONG DINGDONG" ....so cute :)

Big American companies didn’t spend billions on R and D to develop their products. They used technologies developed in the public sector like universities, NASA, pentagon, DARPA using public money. Take the internet, Wifi, computers, early semiconductors, touch screen, gps. All developed with public money. R and D using public money, profits privatized. That’s how the economy works.

4:33 Sounds like China went Libertarian. Open Free Market Capitalism, that is exactly what it is. Tell me... Could the US auto workers separate and create a better car? No, their Unions and government friends would put an end to that!. End Corporate and Union welfare, and end the protectionism behind many regulations and the US can be like this city.

@zombiesingularity

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely not "libertarian". Socialist Market Economy.

Nice to share with others and painful when stolen and revamped along with denial of the true inventor being denied acknowledgement and production of the invention! This is intellectual property heisting ! This destructive copying of intellectual property in its infancy has a history throughout the ages ! Protect your development and wait until your covered to reveal it publicly, secret development is used and protected for these reasons !

What about workforce in China and their working conditions? I assume that significant contribution to this boom is the fact that there are plenty of underpaid people working in confined environments that do tone of soldering, assembly and similar jobs.

@coletrain2357

8 жыл бұрын

Underpaid is relative to historical circumstances. The west's high living standards are built upon the same kind of hard labor of several generations of our ancestors. China only started this process a few decades ago, and they are catching up very quickly. People forget that the only reason anyone has anything at all is because our ancestors sacrificed for it, you can't simply go to China and start paying them the same amount of money as you get in the west, there just isn't as much wealth there to go around. The west is sitting on a foundation of wealth that was built up over hundreds of years of relative economic freedom. Meanwhile it was only a few decades ago that China was still a centrally planned Marxist society, and much of China is still extremely communist so that isn't helping either.

@jzvr5842

8 жыл бұрын

It has to do with cost of living, many people say things like workers in China are underpaid and they are compared to wages in the West but they often forget things are less expensive in China and it doesn't take nearly as much to have the same standard of living, for example a $10 bowl of noodles at a resturant in the West costs $1 in China and so on. China isn't communist at all, it seems many people have misconceptions around the Chinese system and what communism actually is, under communism everything is shared and nothing is owned personally which isn't the case in China. China is captalist but different than capitalism in the West where corporations are legally in bed with the government and even ride on top of the government. In China politicians don't depend on corporations to fund campaigns, receiving money from them is illegal and considered corruption whereas it's legal in the US.

@shake6321

7 жыл бұрын

there is no such thing as underpaid unless you are a slave or signed a bad long term contract. not to be rude but you need to get rid of these types of ideas.

16:30 congrats. It's already happening.

Management are internal "lawyers" - good only at talking but poor at Doing.

Product at 1:02 what is that?

@jimdEth

8 жыл бұрын

A ninebot one or Shanzhai derivative

@gessha

8 жыл бұрын

+Jimmer D thanks!

THE VICE PRESIDENT OF 3NOD IS DOPE!

is the intro a song?

@dskymedia9347

8 жыл бұрын

Here is the song. soundcloud.com/robmartland/tambiosi

@joebazooks

8 жыл бұрын

*

This fu*** non-stop background music ... Why?!

Glorify patent theft. No, thanks. Hear this story: David, a smart guy, had 5 ideas, "a", "b", "c", "d", "e". He didn't know which one will work on the market. He pulled all his energy, money, resource, etc into testing and making his ideas into products. Each process costed 20 million. Only idea "d" worked, and David was finally starting to make some money. David had a vision for the future that can improve human being's life. He had other great ideas, which need money to make them come true. 10 other people, just want to make some quick money, saw David's product "d" was working in the market. They copied it in a week and they all opened their own company. Let's call it product "d2". It's cheaper and better in some way. Suddenly 11 similar products ruched into the market. Since "d2" was better, "d" soon went bankrupt, down went David's vision. That's why with Chinese system there weren't many life-changing-innovations. I am Chinese and live in China. I am not bashing anyone here. It's just that the fact is there. All in all, we all just want to improve our lives, and be happier. Maybe the system is there, just because that's the way most people know how to improve their lives. Or maybe the government is very in favor of domestic companies and trying its best to help them. Peace.

Money trumps being First or Best - advertising manipulates the public.

Modi sarkar invests in arms deal 46 billion dollar. Why did not it invest of science and technology research.

If Apple computers out-sources the manufacture of a product to another country to exploit cheaper labor cost, it runs the risk of losing control of the technology and ultimately the cutting edge... If you don't want this to happen, manufacture at home.

I’ve envisioned a phone app called ‘the reach out and SLAP’ app to whom ever makes you wanna slap them.🌈🦄🙏🏽💟💟💟

What’s really scary are the 1940’s studies they did on rats in the “stack and packs” research.🤯🤠🗿🌈🦄🙏🏽💟💟💟

what about all the time and money spend in developing anfdidea and you are suppose to just let someone use it? WTF?

Lol, the host made me laugh. I totally agree with him. Another reason China, is in the forefront of innovation has to do with its philosophy and approach towards sharing of information. Meaning the way they believe in sharing knowledge and that it belongs to everyone, and that no such monopolies should exist. Where in the western civilization this is thought not only as heresy ,but made illegal as well. This is truly laughable in my opinion, how can it be where only 1 person has that same thought or idea and you happened to had the same idea ,but they bet you to the punch for a patent lets say, and now your unable to use those words or idea is outrages to me to conceive.

This is not entirely true, many Chinese manufacturers do junk for one time use, which after six months will go in the trash or will not be useful as original electronics where was thoughtful functionality and design, and will be for years. They have a strategy for low cost, fast money and profit and really look not so many good electronics, after some time you spend again some money to replace electronics from china but I agree they have some good too but with good price too

So these guys say that they are innovators as in reality their business model seems to be a well organised IP 'sharing'+selling model. For example, some production of newly released product would planned in Shenzen, they get the information about that and then they take blueprint of a product and sell this as innovation/idea to partners in the West, who put their brand on it and can sell worldwide due to brand recognition. The innovation of bed? come on, my iphone was able to do that 7 years ago. And all those hand gestures made by lady showing the technologies in the room seem very much like a imitation, not real functionality. And lastly - the design room seems to be full of teenagers who look like they have nothing to do there. So yeah, it looks quite suspicious.

its ok to improve and innovate something from an existing technology. But to copy the brand? your just copying it, your not innovating. your just taking advantage of other peoples work. your just being lazy.

@syedkafeel8073

6 жыл бұрын

the thing that they are adding different features at quarter a cost is innovation in itself.

@asmsan2315

5 жыл бұрын

in this case you need just do better job with original.

@raj6249

4 жыл бұрын

One word.....china

Ok...so someone making a product on their kitchen table or garage with limited resources and the last bit of their savings can contend with a mega million dollar producer that will imitate their product, have the R&d to improve upon it and sell their idea at a cheaper price through economies of scale is not an issue? You can tell these mofos come from privileged backgrounds. Even if they were to have another idea to innovate the prior product they may not be able to implement those changes in time before the stealing competitor. Taking people's ideas and claiming them as your own is stealing period. Secondly patents are just ONE form of IP...patents and copywrites can always be arguable in terms of originality but the other forms of IP are not.

The Chinese have high IQ and this is how our technology can move forward. I hope that my grandchildren can manipulate the technology around them with this level of skill.

I guess that's the price to pay if you wan't your products to be built by pple paid 1$ an hour lol.

This shit is fascinating... I love the idea of open source development and instead of copying, quickly improve an existing product and keep the evolution going. The lack of backward IP hoarding and patent trolling is so satisfying.

its basically all just american tech

Minh 7 years old) I like minecraft so can you come to England so that I can see your minecraft Lego set

"Sharing ideas openly and getting things going" :) God agrees ) Sharing serves LIFE and is sustainable :) "Go ahead and choose being better-but not better than others; rather, better than you were before. Go ahead and choose having more, but only so that you have more to give. And yes, choose “knowing how” and “knowing why”-so that you can SHARE ALL KNOWLEDGE WITH OTHERS. And by all means choose to KNOW GOD. In fact, CHOOSE THIS FIRST, and all else will follow." - "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch :) Bless ALL :)

@TheAscension11

8 жыл бұрын

"Finn Hansen", This is not religion :) "Religion would have you take its word for it. That is why ALL RELIGIONS ULTIMATELY FAIL. Spirituality, on the other hand, will always succeed. Religion asks you to learn from the experience of others. Spirituality urges you to seek your own. Religion cannot stand Spirituality. It cannot abide it. For Spirituality may bring you to a different conclusion than a particular religion-and this no known religion can tolerate. Religion encourages you to explore the thoughts of others and accept them as your own. Spirituality invites you to TOSS AWAY the thoughts of others and come up with your own." "RETURN TO SPIRITUALITY. FORGET ABOUT RELIGION." - "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch :) And NEVER judge :) "Judge NOT and neither condemn, for you know not why a thing occurs, nor to what end". "And remember you this: that which you condemn will condemn you, and that which you judge, YOU WILL ONE DAY BECOME". "Rather, seek to change those things-or support others who are changing those things-which no longer reflect your highest sense of Who you Are". "Yet, BLESS ALL-for ALL is the creation of God, through life living, and that is the HIGHEST CREATION" - "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch :) Bless ALL :)

A

nice watch! thanks to china tech has become more accessible to people

China will democratize the technology .... . . Some poor Africans can have high quality products because of Shenzhen 🙏🏼🙏🏼

@malharpathak4941

Жыл бұрын

First China should democratize it's own country.

@himanshut114

Жыл бұрын

@@malharpathak4941 .... Bhai I am not pro chinna ..... But the Chinese factory makes cheap smartphone for poor countries

in cringing as I am watching this vid,,, similar logic applied to property ownership, and guess what happened ,,, ;P

@Saeglopur89

4 жыл бұрын

I see that they just don't understand abstract things, I was cringing all the time :/ If they think it's just a phone so why they steal even apple logo and whole design? I hope this will backfire at them in real way.

They just copy and don't use their brains of their own.

I know HuaQiangBei clearly.Shenzhen is far away from the future city.I can't understand why the Shanzhai(copy) become "share IP "? And there are several foolish screens that just show the weather forecast and news then people call it future technology.If I tell you my phone can do it and it also could call someone.Do I come from future? This video is full of misleading information.

patents protect capitalist. pirates promote innovations.

The problem I have with Chinese products, (not the components they are good but the assembled end products) is that their quality is really quiet poor. Especially guitars, even the big brands that let their guitars being made in china suffer from poor quality. Same goes for the phones and the handheld computers. They do break or the software is extremely buggy. Which is an advantage for us westerners still but like they say: "China will catch up and they will deliver products that have great QA and overall quality and still be cheaper than the US and Japanese products".

@chaofiona9673

7 жыл бұрын

Raymond Doetjes I think you buy a cheap guitar, that is why it is with low quality, my friend bought a guitar in china which is not cheap, also made in china, the quality and sound is really good

@rdoetjes

7 жыл бұрын

The thing with a guitar is that it will only show after a few years. I know of no high end Chinese guitars. What guitar did you buy?

@chaofiona9673

7 жыл бұрын

I do not know, she told me so…

Why did they intentionally film the pants of young girls?

The issue comes when one 'poorer' inventor creates a product but doesn't have the financial capability to create a large brand quickly, and then a larger brand copies it and basically overtakes that initial creator's idea. Open source sounds great when the product is free, but when it's made for profit it doesn't apply. yes, it's THEFT!!! as an artist who has had issues with copyright, i'm very grateful for the laws we have in the west, but i still think these are not strong enough against chinese copycats and others :(

So stealing schematics off of your employer's desk is "sharing"? Got it.

This is a grey area. China does not make it much better, they can make it faster, efficient, but not better. Quality and long lasting is not their strength. Open source culture is like ants eating a dead animal body. If profits involves, it can become evil. Japan made Nikon and Canon by making better quality products. But not sure about China. China is different beast altogether. Maybe there is a good side of things, but if people just copy to make profits... that is crime, unless they add values. Why would people buy copycat products, rather than originals? Because they cannot afford the original. Because copycats are cheaper. How about the quality? Maybe good enough is okey?

Because of China i have more money in my wallet to spend. Thanks Shenzhen.

East minus west equals zero.

the power of communism. People share here.

@peterxie7739

7 жыл бұрын

Hey, genius can you explain to me how did you evaluate my IQ from a few words and I didn't really seriously mean it? And can you not list a bunch of names and conclusions without a single reason. Are you just showing off to me how great of knowledges you possess? By the way, your statement was so fking obscure which shocked my shit out.

@peterxie7739

7 жыл бұрын

Also, can you tell me how can people in a Captialism country share invention with a bunch of parternships.

@chloeagnew1

7 жыл бұрын

Peter Xie Can you tell me if you really understand what I was saying? If you cannot understand, go read "The Road to Serfdom" by Friedrich Hayek and watch videos of Milton Friedman on KZread.

@chloeagnew1

7 жыл бұрын

Peter Xie BTW, don't forget to educate yourself by Reading The Paper "Economic Calculations under Socialism".

@giovannirosado5606

7 жыл бұрын

Peter Xie Communism doesn't exist & has not existed according to Marx's definition. China operates with a mixed economy but has been moving towards a market economy. Also sharing=! Communism that is the stupidest equivocation I've heard.

where is Simone.... this is not worth watching without her📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘📘

In the 1970s a young entrepreneur by the name of Bill Gates questioned authority at IBM and founded Microsoft because he felt he could create a better product than the multibillion-dollar company. He defied the odds and created the MOS. As every inventor had done before him, from Alexander Graham Bell to Thomas Edison to the Wright brothers anyone who has ever invented something QUESTIONED AUTHORITY at some pivotal point. This is why I believe China under its current Authoritarianism system can never match the innovations created by the West. Because in order to innovate you must QUESTION AUTHORITY, you must question the "norm". Something that the CCP fiercely cracks down on. That's the reason the CCP feels it must steal intellectual property from countries with Freedom and civil liberties like the West and Japan, because although China can manage the technology well, and reverse-engineer it, China CAN ONLY duplicated, NOT replicate it nor invent it one of it's own. It cannot innovate because it's intellectuals are not allowed the freedoms that their Western counterparts are. Rather they're encouraged to steal the innovations from free-thinking westerners in high-tech companies and even universities. This is why China, despite eventually reaching the largest GDP in the world, will never reach superpower status. It will always need the free-thinking West as a source of "innovation thievery". You can't have it both ways, you can't oppress people's liberties and expect them to lead the world in innovation also when you don't allow them the very basic freedoms of speech and liberties.

Imagine having the patent or IP system completely abolished in the West. More stuffs would be produced and they would get cheap real fast! = Healthier society!

They steal and want to call it something else but its still stealing. Most of their crap doesn't hold up either like their chip knock offs guitars that I have played that people bought them and glad I never bought the crap.

Is he actually jewish?

Chinese never came up with much better versions of things.They produce low quality or shitty replicas.