Shellshock 'Nam '67--The Best Vietnam Game Ever?

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Revisiting an old, under-appreciated Vietnam War game from my childhood nearly 20 years after it launched.

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  • @TheQuietTactician
    @TheQuietTactician5 ай бұрын

    The mission when you have to hold the castle and all your team mates are losing there minds is crazy , great game

  • @nero7416
    @nero741610 ай бұрын

    Thank you for bringing my PTSD back. This game was the most brutal game I ever experienced. LMAO

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    10 ай бұрын

    It's a hardcore experience man.

  • @HuyGaming96

    @HuyGaming96

    8 ай бұрын

    No men of valor is more brutal

  • @-soaponarope-1261

    @-soaponarope-1261

    5 ай бұрын

    Same, this game left a mark on my subconscious. Me and friends would pass this game round 😂 couldn't stop playing it.

  • @CORLEONESPORTS97

    @CORLEONESPORTS97

    4 ай бұрын

    i love this game

  • @cloud67899

    @cloud67899

    26 күн бұрын

    Manhunt

  • @Se7enBeatleofDoom
    @Se7enBeatleofDoom10 ай бұрын

    Let's be honest. The real reasons why the same video game critics that bashed Shellshock nam 67 yet love Spec Ops The Line is nothing to do with mortality. It's all hating consumers of the industry they work in. Spec Ops the line meta narrative is attacking video game players for enjoying war games like call of duty and battlefield. Meanwhile, Shellshock wanted to tell an actual war story. Shellshock users score are one of the early examples of the disparity between professional industry critics and video game players. We see all the time on rotten tomatoes today.

  • @henrytownshend6441

    @henrytownshend6441

    2 ай бұрын

    Strongly agree

  • @MaddTommy123

    @MaddTommy123

    19 күн бұрын

    Very strongly agree brother 🇺🇲 I'll buy you a beer for that one!

  • @LouisianaPyro93
    @LouisianaPyro93 Жыл бұрын

    Flashback to the days where nothing mattered but your game time. Thanks for the flashback. I feel ya on that being in ur 30s. I’m 29 and I feel like this game was 60 years ago.

  • @henrytownshend6441

    @henrytownshend6441

    2 ай бұрын

    Can relate

  • @MayheM_72

    @MayheM_72

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm 51, and this game is still firmly in my memory. The graphics don't hold up to modern console games, but the gameplay was pretty solid!

  • @alicantuncer4800

    @alicantuncer4800

    17 сағат бұрын

    Sometimes those days feel so distant, as if they were in another life time of another person.

  • @randomguy9113
    @randomguy91138 ай бұрын

    Dude I have been looking for this game for almost 20 years. I knew it was a Vietnam war game because of the hats that they wore, I recognized them from movies like We Were Soldiers and Full Metal Jacket. So I kept searching for war games for the original xbox and everything I found just didn't resemble what I had deep in my memories, until tonight when suddenly I got the urge to search third-person shooters for the og xbox and this was in the top 5. I must have been around 5 or 6 years old when this game came out and I specifically remember my uncle babysitting me one weekend night and he was playing it, most likely on a harder difficulty as all of my uncles usually did, they never had the patience to see it through to the end but as a kid I had all of the time in the world. Eventually he finally gave up and handed the controller to me and then went to sleep. I remember playing in this large open field, someone kept calling my name, which was probably Walker and telling me to "give up". I tried killing everyone, I tried hiding, I tried running straight through but no matter what I did I just kept dying, there was an endless wave of enemies and I tried pressing every button but I couldn't surrender. I don't know how long this went on for until my mom came to pick me up. Ever since then I've been trying to find this game and now that I have I really want to play through it to see if I can get to that level again to confirm 100% for myself that it was a real memory and not something I had just made up.

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    8 ай бұрын

    That’s a real memory. Same thing happened to me. Took days to figure out as a kid. You have to blow up the MG nests with C4 or the waves of enemies never break. You can hold out. But you’ll run out of ammo, and then you’ll get an enemy AK or whatever, but it won’t save you. Eventually they’ll get you. Blow up the bunkers. 🤙

  • @randomguy9113

    @randomguy9113

    8 ай бұрын

    It’s pretty weird when you’ve spent most of your life unsure if you have an actual memory that’s real or just something that you made up on your own. Thank you for at least confirming that for me :)

  • @Bubbazander
    @BubbazanderАй бұрын

    I just recently bought and played this game for the first time this pass weekend. Finished it and holy shit was this game intense! Such an awesome game!

  • @th0uxan

    @th0uxan

    Ай бұрын

    Have you played the second one? What do you think?

  • @Bubbazander

    @Bubbazander

    Ай бұрын

    @@th0uxan no. I don't have a PS3 and I heard it's not all that good. I'll try it someday though.

  • @ezioassassain

    @ezioassassain

    28 күн бұрын

    its on myabandonware for free​@@Bubbazander

  • @1990alone
    @1990alone Жыл бұрын

    I'm a simple man. I see someone call modern critics (in any media) "communists distanced from reality" and I subscribe.

  • @Laidengizer011

    @Laidengizer011

    5 ай бұрын

    That's generally what the media is nowadays.

  • @harbard642

    @harbard642

    3 ай бұрын

    No that s what personal bias is.. . Cause this game was objectively bad for so many reasons. Vietcong was the best Vietnam game.

  • @Laidengizer011
    @Laidengizer0115 ай бұрын

    Great video. You described this all really well. This is actually a good analysis video for the Vietnam War or war in general. It's a shame that the Vietnam War has disappeared so much from our minds and pop culture. Especially when they made like a million World War II games. And certainly a lot of the war games are mindlessly enthusiastic and maybe patriotic. In addition to all the more serious matters, the Vietnam War was of great cultural significance. These were the days of the cultural revolution. Many American GIs at that time looked different from how any other soldiers have ever looked and will ever look. US soldiers aren't allowed to look like that anymore. Part of the problem is that so many of them were draftees and really didn't belong there or want to be there. They would decorate their uniforms and equipment with all sorts of things, write stuff all over everything, had death cards, countless custom-made patches and would wear those bead necklaces and other accoutrements. I have a pretty strong interest in the subject, but in addition to all the more serious material, there is plenty of visually stylistic stuff there to grab your attention. A unique event in the course of human history, to say the least.

  • @Mike93Gee
    @Mike93Gee16 күн бұрын

    This game is awesome. It gets so much unwarranted flak but it really is the most brutal Vietnam game.

  • @Yan_ZY_K
    @Yan_ZY_K6 ай бұрын

    You have a great review man, an appreciation to a realistic masterpiece

  • @user-fw5yr1jp8s
    @user-fw5yr1jp8s2 күн бұрын

    You don't have bad videos or too long videos there actually perfect Langth

  • @Heinrich99
    @Heinrich99 Жыл бұрын

    I still have my physical copy I kept a lot of my PlayStation 2, got all the way up to King Kong, a lot of people I knew didn't like this game called it crap. It was fun I played it all the way through I believe.

  • @joshuaharris3515
    @joshuaharris35155 ай бұрын

    My grandfather is a Vietnam vet and passed when I was one. My grandmother rarely talked about his experiences over there but when i used to play this around her she would open up and tell some of his stories. War is hell in any sense.

  • @colemanwilson38
    @colemanwilson389 ай бұрын

    I still have my copy of shell-shock. I remember playing it when I was young and to be honest it was super hard but even kid me wondered why the villager didn't see me as the hero since games like medal of honor and CoD did. It wasn't til I was older did I fully understood the horrors of war and the stories my great uncle told me of ww2. He talked about chasing the Germans into Russia and finding frozen bodies of Germans who died on the run cold and hungry. He said not a single one had been shot, they died around small fires hugging the man next to him. It's ugly and brutal, and your take on it is spot on

  • @derwinerasmus
    @derwinerasmus Жыл бұрын

    Played this when I was 6 and certain cutscenes stuck with me until I played through it again recently, psycho getting hit with a rpg rocket or the lieutenant getting chopped up with machetes and the torture scene with mama san, but I never remembered all the dead mutilated soldiers in the levels or how messed up psycho and monty actually are during the game

  • @jesseblake3517

    @jesseblake3517

    11 ай бұрын

    i remember my dad coming home with this game saying "hey you might like this, its not medal of honor but it looks good" meanwhile im still looking back at it

  • @peterlustig2143

    @peterlustig2143

    11 ай бұрын

    ​​@@jesseblake3517feel u bro! Game banned in my country Germany , bought it with 9 year at flea market. And then shellshock 2 was my first zombie shooter before cod.. Great memories. Your father had a good Taste!

  • @harrys5807

    @harrys5807

    10 ай бұрын

    I distinctly remember when that VC shot himself under the chin to avoid capture 💀

  • @MayheM_72
    @MayheM_722 ай бұрын

    I loved this game back in the day, and I used to grind it SO HARD! I noticed the recoil caused muzzle climb, and it wasn't the same for all the weapons. It added a little realism in a time where automatic weapons in video games were usually like a lazer gun. I have often longed for a reboot of this series, with all the modern gameplay and graphics technology.

  • @rimeofmariner326
    @rimeofmariner3267 күн бұрын

    Don't mind the criticism from the comments section man! Keep going. You narrate with ease and warmth and delve very nicely into the topics. Subscribed!😊

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    4 күн бұрын

    Much love brother. Thank you. 🙏

  • @ItsObi-WanKenobi
    @ItsObi-WanKenobi Жыл бұрын

    I remember when this game was advertised on the demo disks as a horror game and it really did live up to it's name

  • @bringasortega
    @bringasortegaАй бұрын

    I still have this game on ps2.

  • @RingworldTyrant
    @RingworldTyrant5 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the thoughtfulness of your review so far and the calling of the press proto-Communists within the first ten minutes. Citing Tim O'Brien's perspective on the matter of a war story flawed. Not for your citation but because of the perspective O'Brien presents. He presumes a position of morality by saying war is in all cases removed from morality, then presents it as evil and inhumane. It is better to understand war as the Greeks did: arriving like the Seasons and just another part of life, sometimes the most important. It is also doubtful that O'Brien would call all wars "insane" or lacking morality, presumably his perspective is unique to Vietnam. In a sense, he is only offering more of the prevailing historical interpretation about Vietnam and all wars: War is bad , the Vietnam war was bad and cyncial, etc., and that speaks more to society's current engagement with safetyism and general "Oikophobia" than it does to the war itself. The perspective that war is ultimately absent of moral considerations is however a worthwhile perspective to consider, and if someone considers themselves a humanist, probably somwthing they should ponder with great gravity. But historical accounts of warriors and fighting-men exist enough to counteract the idea that it drives them insane or it is absent of reasoned purpose. A closing thought on this thread is that popular morality as it is conceived today is often some form of universal humanism. That is not necessarily "morality" as it was understood historically, nor even in the whole of the USA during the Vietnam war. It's a product of the global interconnected system after World War II and eventuallly end of the Cold War, but gets projected onto past eras and past human beings. All in all, it's worth considering that these things can change in perception, and O'Brien's is firmly very modern or post-modern. Meanwhile the image of the warrior as a desperate animal clawing for survival in an insane world is also unfair I think, some men spiritually are warriors and seek to be in the conflict. The disconnect arises with modern industrialized warfare where the scales of "fortune" vs. "skill/capability" are so heavily weighted toward "fortune"(or random chance) that a man's survival rests more on his circumstances surrounding him than his skills, and that disempowers him and drives him insane. But that is arguably more a product of technology, and will come and go as technology waxes and wanes, and as men overcome it. Arguably this was happening in the Cold War: the steady threat of Nuclear Proliferation (technologically-achieved apocalypse) forced the USA and USSR to instead turn back to the drawing board, and gave rise to a protological elite warrior caste (in the form of Special Forces, Operators, and those adjacent) that instead found new agency in a deadly, highly chartered, but ultimately free new battlespace. This is not dissimilar to the rise of the first Hoplites, the Marian-standardized Legionary of Rome, the medieval European Knight, the Japanese Samurai of the Warring States period, the first Stormtroopers and Trench Raiders of World War I, or what have you. This is to say, that elite warrior spirit that has existed historically reasserts itself even in periods where it was once extinct, or declining. Of course this is only from a secondary perspective, not a Veteran's, only an observer of history, so make of it what you will. Either way, Shellshock offers a raw look at the war. A bit of a bizarre one, coming from Dutchmen and clearly being inspired by American movies about the war, but still honest, and as you say, without much commentary beyond what the player draws. You have a good, articulate style of a thinking-man. I have subscribed.

  • @johnny2hands510
    @johnny2hands5108 ай бұрын

    I need to scratch my nostalgic itch to play this game again. I always hoped that a digital version would become available of the studio decides to release a collections bundle, kinda like how conflict: desert storm(conflict: Vietnam wasn’t included which was a let down but desert storm was just a huge throwback

  • @youngtilt5506
    @youngtilt5506 Жыл бұрын

    this game was so cool as a kid lol i remember hating psycho. Also loved the death machine

  • @unironic1184

    @unironic1184

    6 күн бұрын

    I loved the city mission with being in the chopper and shooting from it. Very nice setpiece. But man, it messed me up as a kid

  • @9ner
    @9ner5 ай бұрын

    of the handful of singleplayer 'nam games I've played, this has been my favorite experience. always feel like this particular war has been cursed when it came to making a classic singleplayer game. others say vietcong 1/purple haze, but even that is fairly jank. Shellshock at least is very fun and not frustrating. Will play it again soon.

  • @uncleTedK
    @uncleTedK5 ай бұрын

    When I first played this game, my son was a few months old. Now he is 20.

  • @leboci
    @leboci8 ай бұрын

    God damn, I played this game on PS2 like.. 13-15 years ago, such a graphical and hardcore game I loved it:)

  • @hansblitz7770
    @hansblitz7770 Жыл бұрын

    That was deep bro.

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    Жыл бұрын

    I gave it a good go, homie.

  • @TheSimstR
    @TheSimstR Жыл бұрын

    remember playing this and postal 2 on my dads pc as a kid.

  • @gunsandcafe
    @gunsandcafe8 ай бұрын

    That game was awesome

  • @Heavycorp17
    @Heavycorp175 ай бұрын

    This game made me love nam. Tbh it made me understand the generation of men weren’t soldiers they were men amongst animals in a jungle

  • @gregoryirwin263
    @gregoryirwin2633 ай бұрын

    Excellent review

  • @wars1ck
    @wars1ck3 ай бұрын

    God damn I loved playing this as a kid! Subscribed for you having great taste and the same childhood as me clearly! Although people releasing PS2 games from the early 00's for $15, nah bro! Maybe $5 or less sure.

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    3 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the sub bro. Stay tuned.

  • @jonathanoxlade4252
    @jonathanoxlade4252 Жыл бұрын

    One game they need to reboot bring back she'll shock nam 67 probably the most authentic next to brothers in arms

  • @harbard642
    @harbard6423 ай бұрын

    Vietcong was the best. Vietcong 2 was bad but had fun multiplayer. This was peculiar... And like all of this games had a hell of a soundtrack

  • @swbftor403
    @swbftor4036 ай бұрын

    I love this game.

  • @BrianPatrick-rj3bm
    @BrianPatrick-rj3bm4 ай бұрын

    Got two new copies for PS2 here in Ireland very recently as a gift for my nephew, he loves it € 29 sealed in the box, this game is banned in Australia

  • @Anthony1Q
    @Anthony1Q2 ай бұрын

    I found your channel through a chance recommendation of the feral shitbull story. Was very pleased to find an out of nowhere personal longer form take on a video game here. I love this kind of thing. I'm happy to listen to you for this whole time. But I do disagree with you on the game for a very simple reason. You attribute intentions to *the game*. Shellshock '67 wants me to feel this way or that way. *The Game* doesn't want anything. It's an inert piece of media. If intentions exist they exist in the minds of those creators. If this game is to be appraised as art we have to consider that an artist was behind it. And this is the essential piece of your appraisal that's missing. And if we actually go looking for answers, the picture we get is unfortunately not flattering for Shellshock '67. This game was the first effort of the company 'Guerilla Games'. They are a Dutch company, as you say. But that's where your analysis ended. More specifically, they are the Dutch company who made... wait for it... The Killzone and Horizon: Zero Dawn series of games. Not exactly people known for rich or coherent visions, or nuance. In fact, looking at their other works, it seems like the critics of the time were in fact right. Either some massive change in sensibilities took place after Shellshock, or far more likely, Shellshock *was* in fact a meaningless amalgamation of pop culture cliches assembled by tasteless idiots who believe in nothing, like all of their subsequent games. Killzone fascinates some for its superficial aesthetics and vague gestures towards meaning or nuance, but all attempts to dig further lead to disappointment due to the simple fact it meant nothing. It was all hollow gesturing. One friend has told me there were enjoyable elements and sparks of human interest in Horizon: Zero Dawn, which were then completely trodden upon and left behind with Horizon: Forbidden West. From what I see, the base critical read on this game, dumb as game critics tend to be, was correct. I'm open to being proven wrong. But if this game meant something, tell me, it meant something to who? Was there a certain creative lead who you think was saying these things? Who was he? Where did he go? Is there an interview where he talked about this? Can you name a single person who worked on this game? I don't mean to be critical. I am to correct your already existing appreciation. There's nothing wrong with liking something that is in fact simple. My own personal passion case. I am a really big fan of *Shellshock 2: Blood Trails*. The British pseudo-sequel to this game made by guys who were manic fans of 28 Weeks Later and had no serious intentions beyond making their own 28 Weeks Later set during the Vietnam War. I *have* looked up the creative staff behind this game. There's no serious auteur visionary to it, but there are a few consistent figures at the top of Rebellion Derby productions who always seem to be trying to force zombies into things. *Someone* was passionate about *something* behind this game. He has no message. He just loves zombies. Awesome. I actually intend to make a video on that game myself. I greatly appreciate this video as far as it's a personal perspective. But where you sabotage yourself is ironically what you think was wrong with the game's reception. You're trying to give a prestige look at the thing to the extent you're ignoring your own eyes. You're projecting for an imagined audience who are judgmental in a certain kind of way. And looking to redeem something you already appreciated by trying to cast it in a light you think looks better. Now as for the game itself, like many western games of the 2000s, it may have had apparently interesting elements, but these were unfortunately mostly incidental. This game's brutality was not a statement. It was an accident. Your bringing up 'How to tell a true war story' is interesting, it raises a kind of moral question in video games of what people were doing. We actually got quite a lot of not at all moralising games about violence back during this naive era of the medium, but I think the tell, both about humanity and these people as artists, is in what happened when a critical eye was cast upon them. They all folded and started making dishonest and corrective works of the kind described in the book as soon as they were first judged. This is an interesting picture of humanity. We instinctively get honest about violence when left to be ourselves, it's what men have always done. It's fun. We aren't even thinking about it. Then we need to reject ourselves and sanitise our fantasies and dreams once the forces of civilisation start scrutinising us. I believe that there may have been a few, or at least one seriously self aware war and violence themed work made in this naive era that actually knew what it was doing and embraced the nature of the things. But I'm not convinced Shellshock was one of them. I think they were just copying movies. Oliver Stone is a man who does not moralise at war (people who think you're meant to hate Barnes don't understand Oliver Stone), I think they were mostly copying him without appreciating or thinking about him. I may reply to myself if there's more I really want to say, but for now my primary question is, if Guerilla Games meant all of this with Shellshock, what the hell happened to them?

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    2 ай бұрын

    Probably the most thoughtful, albeit critical, comment I’ve ever gotten on my channel. I don’t know enough about games generally, or Guerrilla specifically, to answer your question to a moral certainty. But here’s my spitballing: I find it impossible to believe that personnel changes didn’t occur between Shellshock and subsequent projects, some of which were very likely on the creative side. Even if no such turnover occurred, (respectfully) I think it’s reductive and misguided to suppose that a bad (overall) studio, or team, or individual artist cannot produce, on occasion, blips of brilliance. It happens all the time in music. Film. Take the inquiry out of the domain of consumer art. The night Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson as a 42:1 underdog, he found some magic moment in which his personal motivation and determination elevated him beyond the limits of his simple athletic ability. I reject the premise that SN67 is inanimate, cold, and devoid of the capacity to signify and compel feeling. That’s not how art works-at least, it’s not how I consume it. Stephen King said that artists aren’t always in control of their art. Sometimes the interpreter understands the work better than its creator(s). That may be an element of the disconnect we’re experiencing here. My parting remark (for now) is this: If we’re going to view Guerrilla and its catalog as a monolith, okay. We have to be willing to acknowledge that SN67 was not a commercial or critical smash hit. With that understanding, I submit to you that it is very likely the case that the changes made with respect to approach and intent in later projects were made with a sort of plain fiduciary self-interest. Edit: if we agree on nothing else, Shellshock II is a lot more fun than it gets credit for.

  • @Anthony1Q

    @Anthony1Q

    2 ай бұрын

    @@PapaTokarev I do think Guerilla Games were onto something here. As far as they were it was what most action games were onto during this period I call "naive". If they got further and truer than most I think it was largely by chance, or accident. Not necessarily a mark against them or the work. As King says, works can get away from their creators in a good way. This game has things going for it. Again, I think what we make when we're not so self-conscious can be quite enlightening to look at. The naive video game was an honest one. I believe that western video games were better at covering violence when they weren't thinking so hard about it. Where western video games really fall down is what they do once they start thinking. The Japanese are a far more honest culture, and they have made many deliberate and thoughtful games about violence which don't fight themselves or lie. Metal Gear Solid says things so shockingly politically incorrect about violence and humanity that most western observers prefer to hallucinate a more comfortable anti-war plot over the top of what's in front of them because actually listening to Liquid Snake is so disconcerting to westen sensibilities. I can actually believe that Guerilla were far more serious when they made Shellshock 67. There are plenty of clear examples of studios and individuals in gaming turning on themselves around this point in time and resolving to never get serious or challenging about violence again. Many staff at Volition explicitly said this after Saints Row 2. I don't reject the idea of Guerilla having more integrity at the past. My challenge is meant *as a challenge*. We should look if we care. Find out who wrote/directed this game. See if we can find them talking about it. Sometimes this can be hard. But you might be surprised at how much we often *can* find about artists if we look.

  • @robertkovarna8294
    @robertkovarna82943 ай бұрын

    Really surprising to me how COD hasn't tried to have a full game set in the vietnam war.

  • @Nunvalt223

    @Nunvalt223

    20 күн бұрын

    Isn't that cod black ops?

  • @markmagnolia
    @markmagnolia6 ай бұрын

    most violent game i played as a kid . i rented it from blockbuster beat it and never saw it again

  • @GAOOOOOOOOL
    @GAOOOOOOOOL9 ай бұрын

    One of the best games ever made

  • @RogerNorse
    @RogerNorse4 ай бұрын

    How to fix sensitivity? Mine is way faster on vertical and slower on horizontal, making the aim clunky and hard. Is there a way to edit it?

  • @michaeloreagan9758
    @michaeloreagan97585 ай бұрын

    I was playing this game as a kid. I turned out okay

  • @sunmax1234
    @sunmax12344 ай бұрын

    Never played this, only Conflict: Vietnam

  • @CORLEONESPORTS97
    @CORLEONESPORTS974 ай бұрын

    i love this game .... hardcore

  • @The1NSTINCT
    @The1NSTINCT3 ай бұрын

    100% would buy a copy at $10-15 loved this game as a kid, This and "Black"

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    2 ай бұрын

    Black was wicked. I replayed it recently and they got a ton of stuff wrong (capacity, actions on the wrong side of the gun, etc.), but it was still so aesthetically pleasing.

  • @pradanaariam
    @pradanaariam9 ай бұрын

    I remember played this game back in 2005 on my PS2. I've never beat them, I'm still curious

  • @Peter_griffin420
    @Peter_griffin4206 ай бұрын

    Do you have any opinions on call of duty world at war I thought it was pretty brutal

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    6 ай бұрын

    Best WWII game of all time.

  • @Heavycorp17
    @Heavycorp175 ай бұрын

    I might still have the disc of this game

  • @Darth_Starkiller
    @Darth_Starkiller Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed your take on this game. Hopefully you keep up with the video game reviews because you did a really good job on this one. My one suggestion would be to play the game on the hardsest difficulty. It makes the game way less run and gun. This will make you have to use lean, crouch and prone more often. This gives the game more variety in my opnion.

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the feedback, man. I don't play many new games, but I have an affinity for the thematic/historical/narrative significance of some old titles. Maybe I'll look at another one soon using this same sort of academic approach to understanding a text. Agree on your remark about difficulty, also. Stay tuned!

  • @ninjaarcades7356
    @ninjaarcades735611 ай бұрын

    Looks real arcadey Love Vietnam 🇻🇳 movies games Need a Vietnam open world

  • @Joseph-dt4ov
    @Joseph-dt4ovАй бұрын

    To be honest to get into special forces you would be put on a mission before qualifying to enter special forces training further, this was done with other sf members but upon completion you would proceed further with training but the mission was a recon mission not your conventional take the hill mission a grunt would normally endure, im a vietnam buff and have much knowledge on the subject

  • @Heavycorp17
    @Heavycorp175 ай бұрын

    This game was fire, I was fkin like 10 and this was my FAVORITE shooter since I’ve been a gamer lmaoo. The first mission when deltas tryna talk done the captive and he blasts himself

  • @R3TR0J4N
    @R3TR0J4N4 ай бұрын

    This came hand in hand with Spec-Ops The Line.

  • @JamesBond-iv5lp
    @JamesBond-iv5lp5 ай бұрын

    Where can i play this if I have the disc? Do i need a PS2?

  • @Heavycorp17
    @Heavycorp175 ай бұрын

    My dad had the best taste in games sorry I keep commenting but rip my father I’m so happy he would go to the game store and pick up cool picks for us . The things the carried is a favorite book of mine as a writer and human. He’s got many titles that kick ass, if I died in a combat zone box me and ship me home Is wicked. Going after caiccito is an interesting gripping story too

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    5 ай бұрын

    He sounds like an awesome dad. Remember him well, and may he rest easy bro. 🙏

  • @Raysystemic

    @Raysystemic

    2 ай бұрын

    I've read that book and think you would like Matterhorn by Karl Marlantes

  • @kevinbenedict1422

    @kevinbenedict1422

    Ай бұрын

    Another great book - which is chronically overlooked and largely forgotten apart from veterans - is *The 13th Valley* by John Del Vecchio. I'm primarily a non-fiction guy, but I don't think I've ever read another book that is better at illustrating the change in mentality of guys in Vietnam as they spent more and more time in-country. I wonder if @ProtectedPrimate has read it. If you love Shellshock, it's a must-read. It's one of those books that sticks with you, in both good and bad ways. Vietnam is my primary field of historical study, yet no matter how much I read, that book still stands out. It's also unique in being set in August of 1970, during the final American-led combat operations of the war in the A Shau Valley.

  • @Raysystemic
    @Raysystemic2 ай бұрын

    Excellent video all around. I remember renting this from Hollywood Video

  • @journeyto100channel2
    @journeyto100channel23 ай бұрын

    I’m Surprised I had the Opportunity to play this Game. I think I was 9 or 10.

  • @eddhernandez3084
    @eddhernandez30849 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @harvymarquez8164
    @harvymarquez8164 Жыл бұрын

    i was in high school getting high and this game was the shit its looked realistic to me when i was playing maybe because i high but playing this on hard was no joke the VA get wounded and still keeps firing at you great game

  • @a-jamsiinofficial1
    @a-jamsiinofficial15 ай бұрын

    What a game

  • @Heavycorp17
    @Heavycorp175 ай бұрын

    I just bought a sealed copy LMFAOO

  • @colegrace6264
    @colegrace62644 ай бұрын

    I could share a beer with you and pick your brain for hours, both of my grandpas were drafted one in 67 and one in 68

  • @KACHIMOOCHI1191
    @KACHIMOOCHI1191 Жыл бұрын

    Beat it in 2H 40M, decent game. If you enjoyed it, may I recommend Men Of Valor - another good Vietnam FPS game. And yeah, Vietnam is heavily underrepresented in gaming.

  • @bencetakacs7600
    @bencetakacs7600 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do a quick tutorial? How to install the game?

  • @Teufelsnachbar667
    @Teufelsnachbar6673 ай бұрын

    The game you are looking for is called „Vietcong“

  • @sethhatfield6293
    @sethhatfield6293 Жыл бұрын

    So do you need the disc to play this even on pc? I’ve tried to download but it won’t let me play. Just says “wrong disc” or some garbage like that I haven’t had the disc for many years, so is there no way for me to play this on my laptop without a disc?

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. You need a No CD crack. They’re available online for free for this game.

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b49543 ай бұрын

    I just bought it used on Ebay for Xbox. Played it on my OG Xbox 360 with backwards compatibility. Tricky to find? I can't think of a single game I've EVER searched for on Ebay or Google that wasn't available. Sure, sometimes exorbitant pricing but still. Never heard of a game not available online to buy used disc.

  • @RickLag8514
    @RickLag8514 Жыл бұрын

    I downloaded it and have the insert disc message, i was wondering if anyone can help walk me through getting it to play? This is one of my favorite games of all time

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    Жыл бұрын

    You need a No CD crack. I was able to find one online.

  • @RickLag8514

    @RickLag8514

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PapaTokarev Okay thankyou! I found the crack I just wasn't sure how to implement it

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RickLag8514 It's been a few months since I did it. I want to say I had to replace the .exe with the cracked version in the program files>>Edios folder, but I honestly don't remember. It's definitely doable. Just keep messing with it. You may also have issues with sound--those are fixable too. LMK if you need more help and I'll do my best.

  • @bencetakacs7600

    @bencetakacs7600

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PapaTokarevsame issues here i cant find the crack

  • @connorreynolds6280
    @connorreynolds62805 ай бұрын

    This was the best war game ever. I'm already trying to find a hard copy for xbox to play on the x

  • @GuamGuy
    @GuamGuy Жыл бұрын

    I remember renting this on PS2 from blockbuster when I was 8. Only played it for the first mission and got scarred off by the naughty swear words.

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    Жыл бұрын

    Give it another go as an adult. I think you’ll agree it’s got value.

  • @calikings420
    @calikings4202 ай бұрын

    you sound intelligent asf my g :)

  • @Quailbones
    @Quailbones9 ай бұрын

    I’ve got the game

  • @wisccheese9257
    @wisccheese92577 ай бұрын

    How about men of valor

  • @KvltKommando
    @KvltKommando5 ай бұрын

    The best vietnam game is either Rising Storm 2 (when it was brand new before everybody learned all the maps) or Vietcong 1 if you're looking for single player.

  • @Pep_1992
    @Pep_19926 ай бұрын

    Hey now it's not that old, It came out on Sept 3rd 2004. I still have my original copy and it work great on my original xbox. It was one of the first fps I owned. I agree I also own conflict Vietnam in it original case, when ever I want to be nostalgic I'll pick shellshock nam first.

  • @CORLEONESPORTS97
    @CORLEONESPORTS974 ай бұрын

    i dont know what your talking about theres tons of these on ebay, i bought original copy

  • @zentazym1
    @zentazym110 ай бұрын

    I think they don’t make games about Vietnam anymore because of the cultural aspect. It’s the same reason why you fight Nazis in WW2 games and not the Japanese

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    10 ай бұрын

    You're probably right, though avoiding historical realities in the interest of "political correctness" is offensive in itself IMO.

  • @joshwilczek9089

    @joshwilczek9089

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree

  • @RingworldTyrant

    @RingworldTyrant

    5 ай бұрын

    It is somewhat telling that these Vietnam games only really blossomed during the same time where the Global War on Terror (GWOT) was at its conventional peak. Not because the USA and allies were fighting were fighting in a foreign, harsh land, but because the spirit of the fighting man brought it forth, I think.

  • @Heavycorp17
    @Heavycorp175 ай бұрын

    Conflict Vietnam was solid but desert storm was better

  • @austinblack7991
    @austinblack7991Ай бұрын

    Now do nam 1998

  • @YashSharma-mf4gf
    @YashSharma-mf4gf4 ай бұрын

    That's a really nice review. I have always believed that Vietcong 1 is the best game on the Vietnam war. You should really try it and review it the way you have reviewed this one. There are so many little things in Vietcong 1 that provide an amazing insight about what happened in the war. You will love it. That said I've downloaded a 'Nam '67 file from torrent as I want to play it after watching your review. However, I am not able to find a crack for the game. Can you help me out?

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    4 ай бұрын

    Heard. If I get some time I’ll give it a play through and write up my thoughts for video. There’s a no cd crack available somewhereeeeee. Can’t recall where. I probably have the link saved back at my office. It did take some poking around to find. Drop me a line if you don’t have any luck and I’ll email you a .zip.

  • @theazkii
    @theazkii5 ай бұрын

    What’s a cool modern game similar to this?

  • @baxterbunny4403
    @baxterbunny440310 ай бұрын

    Shellshock 2: Blood Trails was a disgrace to the original

  • @WhippyTV
    @WhippyTV Жыл бұрын

    Your voice is identical to Tucker Carlson’s 😂

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha. Thanks. I think.

  • @Laidengizer011
    @Laidengizer0115 ай бұрын

    How the hell do you drop out of school after just the 8th grade??? I thought that was very under the legal age.

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    5 ай бұрын

    I failed the 9th grade. A week before my sixteenth birthday, I stopped showing up. 16 is the legal age to drop out. So the last grade I finished was 8th.

  • @Laidengizer011

    @Laidengizer011

    5 ай бұрын

    @@PapaTokarev Interesting. I was also a very poor and troubled student. Dropped out halfway through my junior year of high school. Things were going nowhere for me. I originally thought that you had to wait until you had at least finished the 11th grade to drop out. But then I was told that you could drop out at 17. Either way, I lived in a small town and went to a tiny little unregulated private school. But I was just kind of too old and disfunctional for anyone to care about by then. Never heard of anyone dropping out so early though. Great video. I'm going to leave a real comment about it.

  • @Deeznuts-cz3cs
    @Deeznuts-cz3cs5 ай бұрын

    They don’t make like these anymore

  • @BruceLeeroyX
    @BruceLeeroyX7 ай бұрын

    Men of Valor is the best Vietnam Game

  • @militarygames89
    @militarygames896 ай бұрын

    Try Vietcong from 2003

  • @MoskusMoskiferus1611
    @MoskusMoskiferus1611Ай бұрын

    I may be biased, but I think Conflict: Vietnam is better

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    Ай бұрын

    Really didn’t like that game.

  • @cloud67899
    @cloud6789926 күн бұрын

    Where tf is the remake er rerelease rather

  • @rgb8289
    @rgb828911 ай бұрын

    Imagine thinking Guerrilla Games doesn’t exist anymore 😂

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    11 ай бұрын

    May have made a mistake on that one. Not too big to admit it. In either case, Guerrilla does not support the game or make it available for purchase in any way. It's still been abandoned, which was the point.

  • @fredherbert7920

    @fredherbert7920

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@PapaTokarevAnd it's a shame, because a lot of the technology that was used to make Shellshock was then used to make the first Killzone, and many of the design decisions followed, from the hazy environments to the often inaccurate aiming and drawn out gunfights. This game helped launch them into bigger things. It's a good game, and I feel they should recognize that and be proud of it.

  • @maxwellgordon9868
    @maxwellgordon98685 ай бұрын

    Vietcong was better imo.

  • @jackass9951
    @jackass99517 күн бұрын

    Emulator

  • @Thunderkingfx
    @Thunderkingfx6 ай бұрын

    Worst game i ever played, and the gametime was about 4-5 hours, remember finishing it and being so disappointed i wasted 60 bucks on it back in 04.

  • @yougod7253
    @yougod72532 ай бұрын

    Game suck best vietnam No way

  • @frankcastle8397
    @frankcastle839720 күн бұрын

    @papatokarev good work👍😎👍 Men of Valor (2004)

  • @waynewayne4227
    @waynewayne4227Ай бұрын

    Real life is offensive. It's sad the internet snowflakes get to set the "example" on how humanity thinks. Sheep to the slaughter

  • @calikings420
    @calikings4202 ай бұрын

    you sound intelligent asf my g :)

  • @PapaTokarev

    @PapaTokarev

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you brother. Hope you're having a badass week. 🤟

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