May Sheldon Rest in Peace - Plenty of good times spent at Armada Games in Temple Terrace and he will surely be missed

@ethanziebell3513

10 ай бұрын

I saw the news and instantly came to this video, I’m glad another person recognized the significance of this loss to the MTG community. Rest in peace, Sheldon.

@robinblikst613

10 ай бұрын

yeah same. may he rest in peace@@ethanziebell3513

@zaahirre1142

10 ай бұрын

Is this the lasted posted gameplay of Sheldon online?

@TheCotzi

9 ай бұрын

im new to commander and binching all tollarian episodes oh my god my he rest in peace i was out of magic for 15 years now getting into it again

@carlospolk5033

9 ай бұрын

@@zaahirre1142 There is another game he played semi on-camera (just his board, no face cam) with Olivia, Alias & Gavin on Elder Dragon Hijinks channel for their 1-year anniversary. Think that came out about 2 months after this episode

Rest in peace, Sheldon Menery. And from my perspective as a true fan of Commander, a humble thank you for all you've done with this game and this format. Godspeed.

Rest in Peace, Sheldon. Thank you so much for everything you gave to the Magic community. You will be missed.

3:14 I loved that professor tested the group by asking if they allowed a proxy in the match. The looks to each other faces, the almost awkward silence... dude... 😂

@joshking3038

Жыл бұрын

I think he was just testing Sheldon after their "your playgroup can decide" proxy discussion in the interview.

@Khanstant

Жыл бұрын

imo you shouldn't even have to ask if you have good quality proxies. the forest card proxy only worth asking about since not everyone memorized every card in your decklist. Otherwise it's nobody's business who printed the card or whats on the back.

@chaotic509

Жыл бұрын

@@Khanstant i disagree, if you're the only one playing proxys then nobody else stands a chance xD

@gabrielcaetano6318

Жыл бұрын

the look that they gave eachother while he was saying it too lmao

@jefforsburnjeffe4380

Жыл бұрын

Mr. Menery's face during the last little monologue there... you could cut yourself on that look 😅

Both Sheldon's and proffesor's decks being created by an anime girl makes this a so much funnier episode

So nostalgic hearing BDM's voice. Dude was like the Bob Costas of Magic The Gathering.

@EliTheGleason

Жыл бұрын

I'm to young to get either of those references ;3;

@HecsBrewed

Жыл бұрын

BDM giving his own play-by-play!

@CreateWorlds

Жыл бұрын

First time seeing him and I’d love to play a game he seems like a super solid guy

@jonq5380

Жыл бұрын

Who the hell is Bob Costas?

@endlesswanderer1753

Жыл бұрын

@@jonq5380 Old sportscaster. He was so good he got a ton of Emmys just for his sports commentary. (just in case you're **that** young, an Emmy is an award for excellence in Television)

Professor: "It's just a tree. It has zero power How is an elderly ent such as this in any way a threat"? Idk ask Saruman 😂

@ry7hym

Жыл бұрын

hahahahah

@dreamsalongthepath7377

Жыл бұрын

Isengard is rolling in its grave.

@thrillhouse4151

Жыл бұрын

That one goblin was right in the fellowship movie, “The trees are strong my lord, their roots go deep.”

@GraemeGunn

5 ай бұрын

Oh wow now that's a terrible "joke"

@musicalsystem927

Ай бұрын

Saruman the white. SARUMAN THE STINKY.

Rest in peace Sheldon, ill be building a new commander deck this weekend in honor of your legacy.

Oh dear is Sheldon ever grumpy at the idea of proxies at the table. I'm glad Prof is so tongue-in-cheek about it

@TimmyTurner421

Жыл бұрын

That's alright. He's a cool dude and is allowed to have his own opinions like everyone else. I don't see why I should turn against someone for having an opposing opinion to my own.

@ich3730

Жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTurner421 when that opinion is "i should have a superior deck because i have more US-dollars" then yes, you should turn against that person.

@thomhitzelberger7876

Жыл бұрын

LOL i made the same observation. I thought Sheldon was going to pull out a DV for Prof to play with.

@TimmyTurner421

Жыл бұрын

@@ich3730 No, I shouldn't. I politely disagree and go on with my day.

@dasfabelwesen

Жыл бұрын

I think he sees it more as a provocation and thinks the situation is awkward.

R.I.P. Sheldon. You're a legend to all of us.

RIP Sheldon. May flights of flying hippos sing thee to thy rest

Not even a year out and goddamn do we miss Sheldon.. A true gentleman and scholar, helped create arguably the ‘best’ format, many contributions to said format, and a joy to watch play. I hope to meet him someday in the multiverse and sit down for a game. o7 Sir, you’re still in the spirit of commander and always will be.

I just got back into Magic and commander a year ago and this was the video that introduced Sheldon Menery to me. RIP to a legend.

Great people, great pod, great game. I especially adore Ced, and the weird cool deck he brought! Love to see the show and how much you put into it, Prof, and I look forward to the next episode.

“I will keep, and regret.” I feel that.

I wasn't expecting the prof to bully Sheldon from pre-game all the way through to the end

Brian is absolutely throwing hands this episode

@sobman

Жыл бұрын

100% lol. he's kind of a dick

The fact that Sheldon has a card signed by Dream Theater is pretty rad.

Hey love this series. Seems very genuine and it's great. Thank you

@TolarianCommunityCollege

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

This video will be last one Sheldon is in and we must cherish it and also remember him with this video RIP

I was floored when Sheldon said his card was signed by John Petrucci! That's so cool (and slightly random, but hey.) Dream Theater is amazing, and LTE is phenomenal, too!

Sheldon clearly is choking back an objection to the proxy cards.

Love seeing BDM playing all these years later still.

@benrichards1413

Жыл бұрын

I got to play him once at PAX in a 4 pack sealed Zendikar tournament. Got lucky with my pulls and draws and dropped Luminarch Ascension every game.

Definitely good timing for the initial discussion around proxies and being able to play them :)

Rest easy Sheldon. You will forever be remembered.

RIP Sheldon. Appreciate your conttribution to the world.

The entire opening discussion is great. Proxies, alternate versions and banned cards that are in a deck to do cool things should always be allowed.

@travishester6859

Жыл бұрын

Tell the douchebag who made commander that. It makes sense that such a toxic format has such a toxic creator. (I’m an EDH player too btw)

@alternateimagegaming

Жыл бұрын

I think the whole point of it being a discussion is because it shouldn't "always be allowed", but should be discussed. So, either the discussion was great (per you) or it was unnecessary because it should always be allowed. I think it was great.

@bryanprillaman1857

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, surprising people, on camera, when there’s been significant pre-event communication, and it’s reasonable that they don’t have alternate decks… I think it was an example of what *not* to do.

@mikeipp5226

Жыл бұрын

@@alternateimagegaming that's my fault, I should have added in my opinion. Obviously that's not something I would ever force on another play group or my own if they were uncomfortable with it. I personally believe that someone's restrictions due to budget or time outside of the game should not translate to a restriction inside the game. I have personally found that without that restriction decks become more fun and creative.

@alternateimagegaming

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeipp5226 for me it seems like not having available the most expensive and powerful cards leads to more creativity in deck building. "I might not have this 1000 dollar card, but how else can I make this work". There's almost no reason for proxies of cards you don't own, outside of testing for consideration to own.

As awkward as it was, I love the pre game convo about gold boarder and proxies. Great job displaying how kitchen table or non completive games should start out.

That proxy stunt was bold haha

Still come here just to pay respects Love this game and the community Ty Prof

Thanks! It was lovely getting to play EDH with you at MTG Summit. Spectacular video.

For those wondering, Mind Stone actually made its debut in Weatherlight, not Visions.

@JervisGermane

Жыл бұрын

I caught that. There were a few mistakes in this episode. The professor didn't pop up to explain any of them this time, either.

@nxsmotorsports

Жыл бұрын

@@JervisGermane It's a lot of work to keep up with every card and I imagine he has to spend much of his time producing, planning, and editing. It was still enjoyable to watch and his heart is in the right place. Maybe he should hire some of us to help catch mistakes before the final video releases 😀

@stanmarsh3716

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely nobody is wondering

Rest in peace and thank you for bringing such an awesome format for Magic. Thank you for making it magical. You’ll be missed.

RIP Sheldon, and thank you for the best MTG format

"Well you could own it" yeah I could also choose not to pay my mortgage. Go little proxy star! Don't let the man keep you down lol

@dr.revenue3636

Жыл бұрын

I think it was some good teasing between pals

@roercula8425

Жыл бұрын

Just keep in mind that if you proxy cards i will too and i will not accept any complains for using cards like Gaes Cradle or Mana Crypt.

@rathlord

Жыл бұрын

@@roercula8425 Because it's impossible to proxy without aiming for a 10 power deck? That's an unbelievably childish take.

@roercula8425

Жыл бұрын

@@rathlord I never saw anyone proxy a cool card thats neat for the deck it has always been for optimization purposes. Or because people cant stand to not have everything available to them. Outside of commander when i started with the "regular" game ive met enough people who wanted to play "casual" and "just with the cards they have" ignoring any banlist. Which ended up beeing them playing their Sol Ring just for "Fun" in their Eldrazi deck while i was playing the deck i build out of my deckbuilders toolkit. In commander im playing casual decks with no game winning combo why do you need to optimize against me? And why is it bad and or childish if i do the same?

@rathlord

Жыл бұрын

@@roercula8425 cards can be expensive without being optimal, like 90% of the reserve list. Or I just want a doubling season because it’s a staple but I can’t afford a play set or more for multiple decks. Or I just want custom art. Proxying isn’t all Mana Crypt, Gaea’s Cradle, and Power 9 cards. And it is utterly childish to either make that assumption or to decide that you’d simply play a max optimized cEDH deck because I have a single proxy in mine. Luckily, I don’t have to play with asshats like you.

59:41 kind of poetic how the professor shuffles his much hated sol ring to the bottom

@peterheldebrant2359

Жыл бұрын

Thought I was the only one that noticed. Seems hypocritical as he himself banned it

Very excited to see another Shuffle vid with One More Mana crew, keep those coming Prof

@pr0fess0rbadass

Жыл бұрын

Or the MtgGoldfish crew

After hearing the news this was the first thing that came to mind. Rest in Peace Sheldon.

This is just an intellectual debate about a card game disguised as commander gameplay

Glad to see Ced came in his -Sunday- Monday best! What a damn good trio to appear along with the Professor! Glad to see BDM here, and Sheldon on again!

RIP Sheldon Menery, thanks for this format!

I'm still very confused how Sheldon went Infinite... 7 lands untapped on etb that can make 8. He needs to spend another 3 to bounce... where does he make Infinite mana

@rainmaker709

Жыл бұрын

You are correct. This was a misplay. Pali is 7 to cast and 4 to bounce. You need to have the 7 land produce 12+ to go infinite. This is most common with Heartbeat of Spring which I am sure is in the deck and probably in hand but he got ahead of himself. What he showed is not infinite.

@gerdfast3466

Жыл бұрын

exactly that!! I came to the comments to look if anybody else noticed. palincron only wins, if you can produce 12 or more mana with those 7 lands (11 for cast and bounce +1 to be positive) on that boardstate he should not have had any possibility to make infinite mana.

@andrewlehmann8610

Жыл бұрын

apology video when?

@darknova000

Жыл бұрын

He was netting 1 mana each time because of the bounce land and had enough initial mana that once he did that at least 4 times he was infinite.

@OGTahoe3

Жыл бұрын

@@darknova000 doesn't work

Sheldon didn't go infinite. 8 mana doesn't go infinite. 12 does. Edit: Sheldon said on Facebook that he had the Mirari's Wake in hand, but just forgot in the moment to put it down. Math checks out with the Wake.

@harrisonheppelmann7938

Жыл бұрын

They just told him he won so he wouldn’t make another ban announcement

@darknova000

Жыл бұрын

He was netting 1 mana each time because of the bounce land and had enough initial mana that once he did that at least 4 times he was infinite.

@pillegraknel4308

Жыл бұрын

@@darknova000 he's netting 1 Mana from playing the Whale, but lacks 3 from boumcing it. 1-3 is less than 0, therefore he loses Mana for bouncing and playing. He needs either a mana doubler or more Karoos.

@darknova000

Жыл бұрын

@@pillegraknel4308 At 1:00:51 they show a shot of his lands. He has 13 lands, of which 1 of them is a bounce land. He had enough initial mana to perform this sequence at least 4 times which would pay for Palinchron's ability. This would allow for him to repeat the process over.

@jakubburian8435

Жыл бұрын

@@darknova000 it doesnt tho... every activation costs four mana, casting Palinchron taps 7, untaps 7 and he needs 4 mana every single time to bounce it back, the simic land only generates 1 extra mana, but he always needs 4 to activate, and 4 - 1 is still not netting him positive mana to go infinite

RIP Sheldon, thanks for helping bring EDH to a wider audience, fuck Cancer.

RIP Sheldon. You will be missed.

Thank you for everything you gave the community, Sheldon. May he be remembered as long as any of us shall live.

Lmaoooo, the proxy questions, well played Prof!

"Its on the reserved list, they're never gonna reprint it" Its great comedy like that that keeps bringing us back to TCC, absolutely hilarious prof

Huge mistake at the end there. Sheldon does not have infinite mana from just the palinchron.

@vivecanada1

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking exactly this. 8 is still less than 11

@xtremerip

Жыл бұрын

I saw that too. Unless im missing something he does not have infinite mana.

@darknova000

Жыл бұрын

He was netting 1 mana each time because of the bounce land and had enough initial mana that once he did that at least 4 times he was infinite.

@emilioperez5426

Жыл бұрын

@@darknova000 how though, hes at a net loss after each untap, hed need more mana from somewhere to go infinite. After 4 cycles hes only getting 1 free bounce which still means hes going -3 in mana each time

@gdmikester4302

Жыл бұрын

@@darknova000 you need 4 mana to bounce palinchron. That's 11 mana total bounce/replay. Sheldon only had 8 mana worth of 7 lands

RIP Sheldon. That this was his last gameplay video makes me so sad. We're going to miss you, Elder Dragon!

Rest in peace Sheldon

Watching BDM play made me realize how much I missed him, and the fact that WotC has given no commemoration for what he did for the community is such a shame. At Wizards 30 he should have been invited for at least a day, and been given a ceremony dedicated to him and what he has done for Magic as a whole. I have not heard one bad thing about BDM in all the years that I've been following, and he has such a geeky energy, but also a charisma, that it's just wonderful to hear him talking about Magic again.

@danacoleman4007

Жыл бұрын

Wow! You are so right! That probably applies to a lot of other people as well. Obviously as we all know, the people currently making the game don't have any ties or give any thought to its history. It really is sad.

@FlourescentPotato

Жыл бұрын

The fact is that pro magic history isn't very important. The colossal majority of magic fans don't care and never have.

@jakehr3

Жыл бұрын

@@FlourescentPotato I get that, but his title as magic historian always seemed more ceremonial to me than anything. I enjoyed him because of his commentary on GPs and PTs (when those were a thing). He was there for the very first pro tour way back in 1996. He retires after being involved with the game for over 20 years and being one of the iconic voices of competitive magic, and WotC doesn't even lift a finger as he leaves. It would be like a broadcast great in baseball getting 0 send off as they go into retirement. It's not necessarily required, but it would have been a great feel good moment and I think a lot of people would have appreciated it. Having that moment to reflect on all the good a person has done for you and the game you love.

@m1gr3nA

Жыл бұрын

@@FlourescentPotato you have any data to back up this claims?

@FlameMage2

Жыл бұрын

Rich Hagon and BDM are the voices of Magic commentary I know most. I didn't even notice it was BDM on the thumbnail cuz he's blocking his face a little but ya I would have watched this sooner! If they aren't honored by WotC that's a failure of Rosewater proportions lul.

I had only recently started playing Magic and found this channel even before that, this is going to be really interesting seeing cards that were before commander format came to be. Hope Prof and everyone is doing great!

I feel like I know how the prof feels about some of what sheldon does and how he conducts the business of the CRC

@lincc9681

Жыл бұрын

Right? This just felt like the professors being salty about rules committee for an hour. (Tbh I get why but still)

Rest in peace legend, thanks for participating in what is today my favorite format. I hope you can play even more where you are now.

Love the relaxing, laid back feel of this. Not all over the top and flashy. Makes me want to go dig into my old cards and build a Pre-EDH deck. Love what you’re doing here!

Rest in peace, we will never forget you and your work for the community. Your name is know even here in Brazil. Tks for everything.

Prof absolutely owns a Diamond Valley.

That Pheldagrif looks like Post Malone's face with all those signatures on it.

I miss hearing BDM talk about gameplay! Edit: you should get Randy Buehler and Rich Hagon along with BDM for an episode of Shuffle Up and Play. Classic commentator nostalgia!

@danacoleman4007

Жыл бұрын

ME TOO!!!!!

R.I.P. Sheldon Menery ;-;7

I'm just getting back into MtG after about 30 years(very short childhood stint), and I am beyond grateful for your videos here at TCC. It's very sad to hear of Mr. Menery passing away, but beautiful to be able to watch these videos featuring him.

as ad newer magic player,, its actually really fun and amazing to see older players still going. ^^

Rest in peace, Sheldon Menery.

Absolutely loved this game. Would love to see more old school EDH like this

"I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, ITS BETTER TO BURN OUT THEN TO FADE AWAY!" Loved the highlander kiergan reference that clearly either annoyed Prof to no end or just whooshed... hard. Edit Sheldon calling a player wormtongue, but as brain was playing an ent it should be fool of a took since that was who conned treebeard into war

The best thing about this video is that it really feels like you're at the table with these guys for a game of magic, and I'm here for it.

That intro felt like spades full of shade.

RIP Sheldon Menery, You will be missed 😢

I have have had the "Diamond Valley" conversation with Sheldon more than once at Armada Games, and was met with a very similar. "Well you could own it" attitude. I just stopped asking him to play.

@thatepicwizardguy

Жыл бұрын

it's not a fun snarky response to give either, it's just a shitty passive aggressive one. the guy absolutely irks me and comes off as a jerk. I'd never want to play with somebody like that and I don't even use proxies or anything I just don't want the... arrogance?

@Servbot40

Жыл бұрын

@thatepicwizardguy It feels worse in person somehow, especially when you are fairly new to the format. He comes off as this ambassador to the game but acts more like a customs agent.

I love everything about this video and crew, and have been waiting for this to finally drop. The intro is perfect, because it showcases Step 0, as well as the benefits of being a wonderful casual format.

The “Duran Duran” joke made me giggle. Crap, maybe that’s a sign I’m getting old.

RIP Sheldon, absolute legend.

The upside-down graveyard is also good if you play with a lot of people that ask to see what's in your graveyard...

Prof playing proxies with the edh creator, that's what I call courage

@jordanewers5375

Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely not courage. It’s his show and if Sheldon objects, he looks bad. Prof is essentially leveraging public opinion against Sheldon’s preferences.

@matthewnewman6039

Жыл бұрын

Sheldon did NOT create Commander.

@peterbach1126

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanewers5375 Truee..

@KingSkinny-ww2pl

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanewers5375 intentionally misplaying Palinchron for a panic win makes Sheldon look bad

@A12C4

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanewers5375 Are you seriously calling about the Prof "manipulating public opinion" when Sheldon literally call himself "the creator of EDH". That's just insane.

We need a two headed giant game on this channel now. It’s been mentioned and needs to be played it’s an excellent format that has been forgotten by everyone but kitchen magic players

@fate3071

Жыл бұрын

I agree! Love two-headed giant, but rarely get to play it

@m1gr3nA

Жыл бұрын

ah, clearly someone did not watch the video to the very end. :D go to 1:05:25

@davidhowell1415

Жыл бұрын

@@m1gr3nA that’s not two headed giant at all. See you saying that is exactly why he should do a two headed giant episode because people like you don’t even know what the format is. I’m not blaming you for not knowing I’m just telling you that’s not what two headed giant is. That’s what he said a guild wars game.

@m1gr3nA

Жыл бұрын

@@davidhowell1415 no, he said "guild war" as in they will use guild colored decks. in 2hd game. please explain how what was shown in the clip does not adhere to 2hd format rules as defined in comprehensive rules.

@davidhowell1415

Жыл бұрын

@@m1gr3nA two headed giant is two players playing their own decks combined into one player starting life totals can vary between 30-40 per game ( remember this is as sanctioned as commander is and battle bond was an unofficial commander set under the guise of two headed giant ) both people on a team draw and play lands as normal, you can share resources to cast spells the game ends when life total gets to zero, or one of the decks on your side is milled out it was a format used when you had 4 people that wanted to play with 60 card decks. The singleton rule doesn’t apply. It used type 1.5 ban and restricted lists nothing was prebuilt to work together it was a I’ll play this deck because it shared colors with your teammates deck. It was a way to play with 4 people before commander or any other 4 player game mode was around. Circa 97-2005 ish

My favorite episode so far. Brian David-Marshall cracks me up!

This was fun to watch! This series is my favorite game play series, thanks Prof!

I came back to MtG after 20 years to learn about this gentleman who was so well loved and so badly missed. I returned specifically for the Commander format and, for what it is worth, thank you Mr. Menery.

52:19 props! DT is a great band and JP is one of the living legends of guitar.

@danacoleman4007

Жыл бұрын

And JP is a great band, too!!!!

21:38 I'm so glad I wasn't the only one thinking there should be a Duran Duran reference with this deck.

I love the Command Zone, but man. Shuffle up has this energy that really gets me. I feel like this resonates more with the older players, and I oh so very appreciate it. Thanks Prof.

RIP Sheldon

34:16 This is my favorite Greater Good, I love the flavor text from Mary Shelley, the white border goes really nicely with the beautiful art and it helps the card stand out when I tutor for it. BDM's reaction to it was perfect, my play group acts the same way when it hits the table because I play Hogaak.

There seemed to be a certain level of tension in the room at game start like they all just had a argument right before the cameras rolled.

He did the diamond valley thing just to piss off Sheldon

I really-really hope that there will be more of these videos, it's extremely fun to watch and I learn a lot from these as a new player!

This show is realy turning up as a polish product. Good job Prof !

Learning that Sheldon is a big enough DT fan to get a Petrucci signature on QUESTING PHELDDAGRIF has made my food-poisoning wracked day

Thank you again, professor, for another great video! Sharpie on a forest was very nostalgic for me, because that's how my brothers and I played with "good" cards when we were kids (4e, Ice Age). 😊

Very fun to see the old style of gameplay here! Reminds me of the old kitchen table 6-player pods back in 2012 and 2013. Good nostalgia here

Unfortunate that he went infinite without actually having a way to go infinite. Good game though. Really like this pre-commander edh concept (I started in M11 so it's edh how I started)

@Aaackermann

Жыл бұрын

He had a simic growh chamber in play

@dthedudek

Жыл бұрын

@@Aaackermann Simic growth chamber gives him 8 mana with 7 lands. For palinchron to go infinite 7 lands need to generate 12 mana (4 for it's return activation + 7 for casting + 1≤ to generate mana on each loop)

@xDixonDallasFan69x

Жыл бұрын

@@Aaackermann still not enough. he needs a mana doubler or the original deadeye navigator combo. Or more bounce lands. He clarified above that he had a miraris wake in hand and didn't cast it on accident. technically he had the infinite but forgot to play the first half ha

@Aaackermann

Жыл бұрын

@@xDixonDallasFan69x Yes, you are right. My bad! ;-D

"Life is menaingless" - Sheldon Menery

"I'm on the rules committee... sol ring is banned!" 😂😂

I like the music you include in these videos. Easy to listen to, adds a more relaxed feeling. Great video as ever, glad you started this series!

I can't believe you got Sheldon to play a video recorded game on your channel!! That's so cool Prof! Also love your commander choice for this playgroup.

Rest in power, Elder Dragon. And fvck cancer.

i just came from Good Morning Magic's reveal of Shelden's secret layer, it was really heartfelt, but i think watching him happy with friends here is the best way to remember him

This was so fun seeing bdm play! Thanks so much for all the effort you put into this

Good bye Sheldon, ty for commander.