Shattered Light: The State of Holy Paladins in Season 4 of Dragonflight

The hammer wielding, plate wearing paladins of lore who wielded powerful light to overcome their foes have now become a squishy that is bloated with hots, procs, and infusions. Oh how the mighty have fallen!
Juicy Jack's War Within HPal breakdown:
• Holy Paladin In The Wa...
Timestamps:
00:00 In Service to the Light
01:21 #Puglife
02:42 Throughput troubles
05:55 Holy Power problems
10:34 Healer PoV
13:21 Cooldown Cowboy
15:46 Paladin Pinata
18:27 Overachievers
20:05 Just Wanna Have Fun
20:37 War Within Woes
23:19 Walk of Shame

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  • @NiroHavenglow
    @NiroHavenglow2 ай бұрын

    Holy paladin has the best class Identity and the worst feel to play. It's insane how much more work you need to do just to keep up.

  • @TommyOhmalley

    @TommyOhmalley

    Ай бұрын

    Shadowlands paladin was super fun. Season 2 hold paladin was fun as well

  • @babbz6944
    @babbz69442 ай бұрын

    Remember brothers and sisters... its always darkest before the dawn!!! (Haven't watched video yet)

  • @redsquirrelslim9222
    @redsquirrelslim9222Ай бұрын

    I feel validated now after firing up my hpal last weekend. My first thought was this just doesn't make any sense or flow at all. Now here we are.

  • @Olimaru2
    @Olimaru22 ай бұрын

    In the back of my mind there is a thought that wants to make me play resto druid because it just feels so good to play right now. But I won’t abandon the light. Be strong brothers

  • @gohomehero
    @gohomehero2 ай бұрын

    They should really take a note from Warrior Priest from Warhammer Online. They healed by doing melee damage and instead of mana they had Righteous Fury that they would recover by fighting or literally PRAYING kind of like Evocation.

  • @TayaYoung04
    @TayaYoung04Ай бұрын

    I liked listening to your take of hpal. I played most of my keys last week (tyran) as hpal, and while I did not feel underpowered - I did a 13 just fine- it did not feel super fun to play. I also do not understand why on earth blizzard went away from the melee hammer wielding playstyle that everyone said was super fun and changed it. Why change what ain't broke... But yea. As you mentioned I do run with my guild group, and I can coordinate their personals to fit what I need. As of right now, I barely use any of my holy power, because it just doesn't do any meaningful amount of hps. In raid I played disc priest last tier, which is arguably a much harder class and got absurd hps numbers. Now with this much simpler class I have to play so much more methodical to get healing without going oom xD

  • @kaedrian
    @kaedrianАй бұрын

    Been playing since the burning crusade, but never played a paladin, so that was my goal last year. I love to heal so I focused on healing and I have to agree with everything you've said here, especially about making the cooldown cake. I have to work twice as hard on my holy paladin than my resto shaman (was my main for many years) just to keep everyone up. It takes the fun out of healing. Taking a wow break for a few months so hopefully things will get better with the next expansion.

  • @MrJKD7777
    @MrJKD77772 ай бұрын

    It makes me sad to see you so down on the Holy specialization right now. You are better and accomplished more than 99% of those playing Holy Paladins. There is a time and a season for all things. Holy Paladins do need some loving from Blizzard. There will be a time when they we be on top and be the Meta once again. In all of your videos I have watched, I don’t recall you ever spending any considerable amount of time talking about Protection Paladins. Since you now have enjoyed the experience of PvE, have you considered Protection for PvE, and Holy for PvP? You are a much better player than I am, and it would be great to see what you could do as a Protection Paladin. I really enjoy tanking pugs on my Paladin. I think you would to. I still believe in you our Paladin Godfather!

  • @SireVV
    @SireVVАй бұрын

    We steal the MW dev and convert him/her to the Light

  • @Mrmemphisbones
    @Mrmemphisbones2 ай бұрын

    Mana cost of Word of Glory is disgusting. I spend 3 holy power for it.... Isn't it enough?

  • @Kris-Art-Demos
    @Kris-Art-Demos2 ай бұрын

    I pretty much only play druid these days, but these videos kick ass. Hail to the light Paladins, the leaves and twigs and birds and bugs and fatass chicken-lords approve.

  • @Tehilliym
    @Tehilliym2 ай бұрын

    Divine Toll pumped in SL and was fun to press. Hits like a wet noodle now in pvp lol

  • @Tehilliym
    @Tehilliym2 ай бұрын

    Ya i stopped playing mine. Endless nerfs the last few years. H pally should be the most durable healer. Give us wings on a 1 min cd like ret; also buff wings lol… it’s a neutered version of it’s former self. Make Light of Dawn a 360 degree aoe heal. That would be more viable in pvp (bgs & epics). Also.. to my wishlist… make Denounce instant cast :)

  • @adman7110
    @adman71102 ай бұрын

    3 holy priests and a holy paladin walk into a raid..... me hpal til I die! .... why aren't you hitting 100k ahhh gfy hehehehe 😂 Cata didn't have the range restriction for mastery. Maybe that would help out a bit.

  • @vanguelisk
    @vangueliskАй бұрын

    I ll try to play prot pally in War Within , instead of never playing again my hpal :(

  • @ARGOS-THOR
    @ARGOS-THORАй бұрын

    i want melee wings to be viable again =[

  • @rhs8255
    @rhs82552 ай бұрын

    I stopped playing my hpal 😢

  • @mIkStAqT

    @mIkStAqT

    Ай бұрын

    Same bro, same :(

  • @vanguelisk

    @vanguelisk

    Ай бұрын

    Same. I m playing my priest now.. I did not even get ksm this season as hpal . stopped at +3s

  • @attinger117
    @attinger117Ай бұрын

    They just need to tune the kit better. Holy shock should move health bars. Word of glory should move health bars. If flash crits, it should move health bars. Playing a shaman or holy priest is night and day compared to paladin. On those classes, my heals can top someone routinely in one cast. On my paladin, I’m not even joking when I say that a word of glory heals less than 10% of someone’s HP. Lastly, get rid of F--- glimmer. Who decided glimmer should be the core identity of holy paladin? It should have just stayed an optional capstone. Making glimmer core and buffing its output clearly cost the entire kit effectiveness.

  • @vanguelisk

    @vanguelisk

    Ай бұрын

    unfortunately hpal still sucks in beta. only an infused holy light pushes a health bar. Divine Toll,daybreak do nothing. They really should remove double beacon, make beacon of virtue baseline,tune down its mana cost and giga buff holy shock.

  • @attinger117

    @attinger117

    Ай бұрын

    @@vanguelisk I’m still leveling mine on live so the scaling isn’t the same as max level but I’ve been able to keep everyone alive with beacon of virtue and I love that spell