Im really impressed with your knowledge of the area. This is the most thorough explanation I've seen.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

5 жыл бұрын

simulatedbass I’m happy you enjoyed it!

@crmay72

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! Forrest Haggerty, are you from LA?

@G3n10s1TY

3 жыл бұрын

@@crmay72 yes he said he was born in it in another video... Btw me too😂

@the1.87

3 жыл бұрын

It’s called having too much time

Anyone here after watching once upon a time in Hollywood

@susanhuffstutler9576

5 жыл бұрын

Super film. I loved it (also lived through the true murders)......Great final scene, cathartic.

@rhettdilley

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Stephan yo

@daveconlin8342

5 жыл бұрын

Cliff hauled ass down that driveway with the tunes blasting!!!!!

@CorkyStanton

5 жыл бұрын

нαςκεямαη You’re shallow. Best movie ever. Beautiful happy ending.

@johnwillis3924

5 жыл бұрын

It was his worst film ..the storyline sucks in the movie ..if saw the trailer you have already seen the movie

The horror those people went through, you can't imagine it even in your worst nightmare

@forresthaggertychannel4301

6 жыл бұрын

BassGirlSusan I agree, especially for Sharon who had to wait and listen while all the others were killed before her.

@BassGirlSusan1961

6 жыл бұрын

I believe she was restrained by a rope and had no means of escape. No wonder people have never forgotten after almost 50 years

@xLiLtEmPeR

6 жыл бұрын

Manson was in the desert minding his business. You just a snowflake. Get a job and u won't be mad at the world

@a916LEX

5 жыл бұрын

S.S .A you had to think of the times this was the 60's people were not worried about such crimes happening especially in such a secluded place. The Manson murder are often considered the one event which put a definitive end to the 60's.

@kimberlybrownmy5

5 жыл бұрын

@@a916LEX so very true. There were so many actors, actresses people in different aspects of the business that lived all over the place Beverly Hills. As well as other places. In the 1960s even though I was a child I know that it was a different time and the era and nobody or almost nobody had security the way they have it today.

Always had an image in my head of what these places looked like from reading the books and seeing crime scene photos, but its fascinating to see it all come together like this. thank you

@forresthaggertychannel4301

4 жыл бұрын

Lisa Launspach you’re welcome! Thank you for commenting.

@WindTurbineSyndrome

Жыл бұрын

Spahn ranch is now a state park area.

Rest In Peace Sharon Marie Tate. (1943-1969)

@Nicoletta13

5 жыл бұрын

R.I.P. Sharon( Baby Paul Richard) Jay, Gibby ,Voytek and Steve Parent.. you are NEVER forgotten!

@shiva0955

5 жыл бұрын

😢💔😢

@ApartmentKing66

5 жыл бұрын

@THESATURNSSC1 You mean Mr. and Mrs. LaBianca?

@jarleypiotrtchaikovsky

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaha it happened long long time ago and you say Rest in peace, hahah fool

@sandranorman5469

5 жыл бұрын

And Abigail Folger

2:45 I recognized that sharp turn straight from Once Upon a time in Hollywood. That’s totally where they filmed it!

@julianewrnhr

4 жыл бұрын

it is!

@willdevine8317

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely the same turn.

@DAVIDSanchez-si4nz

4 жыл бұрын

Will Devine is it but just saying i live by there and there are a lot of sharp turns like this

@fijistarproductions990

4 жыл бұрын

DAVID Sanchez it’s got the houses, the traffic lights, the stop sign on the road it all lines up

@DAVIDSanchez-si4nz

4 жыл бұрын

FijiStar Productions obviously i’m just saying that cuz i live on bella dr

Wow, the French farmhouse of the original house fit so much more nicely in the canyon. The new one is a monstrosity.

@eratoisyourmuse659

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Jeff Franklin is a tasteless asshole.

@DexterHaven

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the old ranch house was much more homey. But after those murders, its days were numbered, I guess. Too many bad memories to sleep by.

@DexterHaven

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, coincidental that he produced "Full House" and then built an over-stuffed one.

@dougaschenbrenner802

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe one day someone with enough wherewithal will buy that property, demolish the mansion, and reconstruct the original house. Bet the neighbors would love that.

@DexterHaven

5 жыл бұрын

Now that is a killer-idea! Give that man a cigar. @@dougaschenbrenner802

Its so sad sharons son paul would of been 50 now😞 may they rest in peace together X

@peggysullivan5396

4 жыл бұрын

Nicola Brooke Paul?

@alysonwinchester2906

4 жыл бұрын

@@peggysullivan5396 unborn paul richard polanski

@s7s7Joy

4 жыл бұрын

He was 8 months so he WAS a life sniffed out by those demons. They say that it was 7 murder victims throughout the 2 days of the Tate-LaBianca murders. They NEVER mention the EIGHTH VICTIM of those horrors, the unborn baby Tate was carrying. Sad because at 8 months; he was living EVEN in her womb. SMDH this world.

@renatawarec

4 жыл бұрын

@@peggysullivan5396 you didn't know that???

@michaelcastro6731

4 жыл бұрын

@@s7s7Joy I hope and pray that they never let the killers out, especially that psycho Tex Watson who I understand carried out most of the murders.

OMG, I just asked you a bunch of questions on another video you did about Charles Manson and the others who did the Tate and labianca murders. I asked you about Cielo Drive off of Benedict Canyon Drive. You answered my questions on this one. By the way you did a great job using the Google Earth and explaining everything. I thought they came from the valley. That's why I thought they made a right on Cielo Drive. But it would be a left coming where they were from. This just gave me chills. I told you I was a child time when this all happened. I happened to live on the corner of Benedict Canyon Drive and Portola Drive where you told the rest of the story. I lived at 2200 Benedict Canyon Drive just right on the corner of Portola and Benedict Canyon Drive. Wow, how close to home was that? Again you did a really good job of explaining everything. I lived at that house till I was 17 years old. Like I said I just heard about it at the time. It was too much to process in a child's head. I know I sound like I'm jumping from one thing to another which I am. Today's the first time I actually heard the most I've ever known about it. Never saw anything on any movie are any book on this subject. I actually accidentally stumbled upon your KZread channel looking at something else. Well enough of my boring story. Thank you so much for putting the facts into place for me. No drama just what I would want to see. You are pretty amazing at doing what you do in such a short amount of time. I wish I could give the same. I'm all over the place. Please forgive my grammar everyone I will see things Google speech to text.

I like the old house better.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

4 жыл бұрын

Claretea so do I.

There were a lot of miles & minutes in between the ranch and the Tate home. Many, many minutes that someone could've said "WTH are we about to do? Let's NOT do this" Sad that none of them were human enough to stop the bloodshed.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

5 жыл бұрын

jerelyn scott very true. They were also very high on meth and other drugs.

@jereandco

5 жыл бұрын

@@forresthaggertychannel4301 this is true, and yet another reason why hard core illicit drugs are illegal.

@DexterHaven

5 жыл бұрын

They were brainwashed by Charlie into thinking they were doing capitalist pigs a favor by killing them. Charlie justified it in part with the Beatles song "Piggies" -- "in their starched white shirts [the rich] what they needs a darn good whacking." Harrison felt so bad about the use of his lyric that he refused to allow Bugliosi to quote it in his book. Susan Atkins told her fellow jail inmate that it took a "lot of love" to kill Tate. That's how a killer rationalizes something evil. That inmate told the DA and it blew open the case.

@jereandco

5 жыл бұрын

@@DexterHaven "Capitalist pigs"? Isn't it just a little ironic that the victims were "Capitalist pigs" because they made it in Hollywood..something that Charlie wanted soooo bad that he was willing to kill innocent people (that had NOTHING to do with him being a scumbag and not being able to sing a lick). I guess he REALLY wanted to be a "Capitalist Pig", huh?!

@DexterHaven

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, good point. ENVY of the successful. That leads to rage, violence, death, mass killings. It plays out before out eyes over and over in Venezuela, Cuba, and Soviet Union. But the media ignores it, since they are envious too or are guilty-rich liberals, scared of bums. @@jereandco

Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris became friends with Sharon while they worked on her last movie The Wrecking Crew. How sweet would it have been to have those 2 martial arts legends be there to greet the Manson punks as they broke into the residence?

@erinlorca1240

4 жыл бұрын

Tex had a gun. Two more corpses would have been added to the list.

@sylvaindansereau2120

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is that watson had a gun

@chadhumphries1445

4 жыл бұрын

More dead bodies

@kurtvonfricken6829

4 жыл бұрын

An amateur ( abet high on drugs)with a gun against a karate world champion with a warrior mindset? I'd say the odds would be more than even. The gun was only a 22 and I think he only had 2 bullets left.

@kurtvonfricken6829

4 жыл бұрын

Nope it held 9 rounds! So it would have 3? Rounds left

The guy whose house they stopped at to rinse off the blood turned out to be an important witness because he wrote down and then memorized the license plates to the car. See the book Helter Skelter.

@jerryl9823

3 жыл бұрын

A book came out last year titled Chaos on this whole 60,s saga.

@MeeMee-gz5vp

2 жыл бұрын

@1StarProductions glad I’m not the only one who sees Chaos book as just another BS narrative on the case

@kyledavis635

2 жыл бұрын

I'm really surprised that guy didn't connect the dots and think that they were involved in the murders after surely hearing about them the next day.... I don't recall that he contacted police soon after?

@kyledavis635

10 ай бұрын

@@MeeMee-gz5vp Yeah, Chaos and the writer Tom O'Neill are pure garbage...

Guy who demolished the house is a fool, would have been worth alot more as it was than how it is now - doesn’t matter what features he adds. History is worth more

@hottotty13

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the even older Hollywood history of the house. Michele Morgan had the house built and it fit the style of those hills way better than the monstrosity that’s there now.

@Bloomcycle

2 жыл бұрын

Explain that to Sharon's mother

@WindTurbineSyndrome

Жыл бұрын

Some people hated association of Tate murders wanted it gone. That property has million dollar views. La is famous for destroying old properties land putting up huge houses. There is almost no sense of historical lineage of properties there.

@Jasoneiland89

Жыл бұрын

Would have been an insane air b n b lol.

@WhoDeyWorld

Жыл бұрын

Trent Reznor is the one who sold it last 😒 🤔

Very informative! I really enjoy your videos.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

6 жыл бұрын

Vianey Frias I’m happy you enjoyed it! I used Google Earth to research places I wanted to go when I realized I could use Google Earth to make the video.

@lightshow6638

6 жыл бұрын

Vianey Frias I

Amazing video! Thank you so much forest for taking the time to map all this out for us enthusiasts . This is fascinating!

@regmunday8354

4 жыл бұрын

enthusiasts ???

@kilroy2517

4 жыл бұрын

@@regmunday8354 was thinking the same thing. a poor and thoughtless choice of words.

I also heard that they stopped at a Mobil station on Beverly Glen and Ventura Blvd to finish cleaning up before returning to Spann Ranch. Coincidentally, that is the same gas station that was where James Dean was last photographed on Sept 30, 1955.

@zemery

5 жыл бұрын

i thought James Dean was last photographed in the gas station up north right before he died

@LauRa-re9un

5 жыл бұрын

It is strange that they cleaned themselves before going to the ranch if they could clean there

@deanpd3402

5 жыл бұрын

Cowinkydinks...The La Bianca murders occurred in the former home of Walt Disney, 3301 Waverly Drive. Leno bought the property in 1940 They were murdered the day after the Haunted Mansion opened in Disneyland. 9 August 1969.

@jeffnelson2930

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, it was the next night after the LaBianca murders where they stopped at the gas station. That is where Rosemary LaBianacas wallet was put in the toilet tank where Charlie wanted a black person to find it being it is a predominately black neighborhood, in hopes they would use the credit cards and be blamed thus helping his nonsense theory of Helter Skelter.

@siskokidd

5 жыл бұрын

@@deanpd3402 This isn't true at all, as much as I would like it to be. Disney built and lived in the house at 4052 Woking Way. That is the home later bought by Leno LaBianca, who sold and moved out of it three months before the Manson murders at 3301 Waverly, which had been LaBianca's parent's former home. The two homes are nearly a mile distant.

Excellent production, Forrest. I read Helter Skelter when I was 16 (1976). In 1977 Vincent Bugliosi came to a college in my hometown (Tacoma, Wa) and spoke. I attended and was able to get his autograph afterwards. In 1980 while serving in the Air Force in California I had an opportunity to drive up to the gate of 10050 Cielo Dr. In 1984 I went to work for the California Dept of Corrections and ended up have a brief conversation with Charles Manson in 1996 while he was housed at Corcoran PHU. My next trip to L.A. I will have to drive out to Spann Ranch.

@pedrodelacabra1855

4 жыл бұрын

Cool. Not much to see at Spahn these days though!

Wow. Absolutely amazing the time and detail you put into this. It is so appreciated. Thank you sincerely.

This one really means something to me. As a kid and being related to Abigail Folger, I still remember the shock and horror witnessed in my family over this. It really makes it more real for me.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Metzger how are you related to her?

@ghost_badger7537

Жыл бұрын

@@forresthaggertychannel4301 probably a cousin

@paulvoorhies8821

Жыл бұрын

Riiiiight. Everyone wants a piece of this case. Pathetic.

RIP, everyone of you. Excellent presentation Bud. Today is Aug. 8! Chills.

What a great video. 'Helter Skelter' was the first non-fiction true-crime book I ever read, way back when I was 9 years-old. This Google map guided tour taken by the killers that evening provides a fascinating layer of context to the incident that you simply don't ever see in any coverage of this case. I see you have other similar videos... Looking forward to them!

@jbro8934

5 жыл бұрын

You read Helter Skelter at NINE years old?? Wow! I was watching The Flintstones.

Might just be the best-described video of a historical factual story I have ever watched. Great job on this video.

@kurtvonfricken6829

4 жыл бұрын

walter white It's easy for charismatic people to brainwash weak-willed people. No supernatural powers needed. Your theory is totally invalid.

An excellent accounting of the crime scene locations and their relationships to one another! Thank you!!!

That’s some research. If you aren’t a detective, you are in the wrong line of work! Great job!

Fascinating...I never knew about the incident with the home owner on Potelo drive or any of the other details after the murders.

Just amazing, how you do these videos and Google Earth. I do it when I’m trying to find different businesses that I want to apply to, but you take it to the next level. Awesome work my friend.

FASCINATING STUFF! . . . Thanks for mapping it out with such detail.

Excellent job! From everything I've read or seen about the killings, you are spot on with the locations.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

6 жыл бұрын

Balding Ogre thank you! I read Tex Watson’s book, ‘Will you die for me’ and he gives many details in it. It was very helpful in making this video.

@ashesashesallfalldown8703

6 жыл бұрын

Love your videos, please keep them coming! Also love your book mentions so we can read more if we want. All around super awesome. Thanks.

I remember this like it was yesterday, I was sitting on the end of my bed watching it on TV, shocked and horrified to know that anyone could be so terribly cruel as those murderers were. Well, Manson is dead now, thank goodness, and we hope the others are NEVER allowed out on patrol, doesn't matter how long it is. How anyone could stab beautiful Sharon in her pregnant belly like that still astounds me. I will NEVER understand how someone could do that, evil or not. And the others who died that night also, just horrible that those innocent lives were taken from them. (No sympathy at all for those killers, never will have.)

@nancymarkiewick3557

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think they'll make parole. Great. But they want sympathy.

@lotstodo

2 жыл бұрын

Tex Watson is a Christian now, I don't buy it. Makes me sick that he got to have children. He must never be let out.

Great work on this piece of history. These videos are fascinating. I like all the little details added, like where the pistol and clothes were tossed. And stopping to use an outside faucet at somebody's house. I stumbled across your James Dean video a few days ago and now I'm hooked.

Amazing job recreating this. I saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood last night and your video showed me what a great job they also did recreating Cielo Drive

Great video !This subject has fascinated me for more than 50 years. I was 14 when the killings happened. A couple of years later, my mother and I drove up to Cielo drive and found the gate blocking the driveway leading up to the murder house. What we saw was the same as a photo in Vincent Bugliosi's book Helter Skelter.

Very detailed and planned out video. You did your research. Well done.

I’ve been fascinated with this case since growing up in the ‘60’s in Sylmar (Not far from the Roxford St Chevron where Rosemary LaBianca’s wallet was put inside a toilet) and hiked in the Chatsworth hills above the train tunnel, seeing people riding rental horses from Spahn Ranch. In ‘76, after reading ‘Helter Skelter” by Vince Bugliosi, I took my girlfriend and two friends in my just-bought ‘68 Mustang to the Cielo house late one Sunday night. After wandering up and down Benedict Canyon, I pulled over and a Jaguar pulled up beside me, rolled his window down and asked, “You looking for ‘The Place’?” Embarrassed, I admitted, “Yes” to which he exasperatedly replied, “Follow me!” And led us to the gate. An absolutely surreal night. I unfortunately share Manson’s birthday too.....November 12th!

@michaelbruns449

Жыл бұрын

Wow.

I have been fascinated by the Tate/LaBianca murders since 1974 when I read Helter Skelter. Over the years I’ve revisited and read what I could. I thought I knew quite a bit until OUATIH came out, and there is a resurgence both in my interest and details about this story. I am amazed at how much I didn’t know, including information contained in this video. Thanks for uploading.

@fizzao1342

4 жыл бұрын

Susan Knight Me too. I remember the Cielo Drive murders making headlines when I was eleven. It scared me to death and I live in the U.K. I can’t bear to think of the terror they and the La Biancas must have felt.

@susanknight2559

4 жыл бұрын

Fizza O Yes! Horrific. When I say I am fascinated, it is not in a sensational way. It is more the study of humanity; how people could be pushed mentally to perform such heinous acts.

@BushyHairedStranger

Жыл бұрын

Few know that Manson and 2 others drove back up to Tate house early August 9th before sunrise. Possibly to retrieve items left there, clean up any direct mistakes, they also moved bodies around, shifted several pieces of furniture..

Quite the long trip for the freaks to get to their destination. How truly terrifying it must have been for everyone in that house. So sad.

Fun fact: before going back to Chatsworth they refilled at the same gas station at which James Dean took his last photo, on the corner of Ventura and Beverly Glen.

@lynncraig6151

5 жыл бұрын

Remind me to never stop at that station for a candy bar.😬

@MariusHelleMC

5 жыл бұрын

@@lynncraig6151 well that shouldn't be necessary, cause that station is torn down :P

@lynncraig6151

5 жыл бұрын

@@MariusHelleMC Well...Did you hear the story the famous actor ,Alex Guinness told about James Dean? He and his friends ate a meal with Dean at a restaurant where Dean showed his new car to him . It had a bouquet of red roses tied to it. Alex said something odd came over him and he asked Dean if he had been in it yet. Dean said no. Alex warned him as he was looking down at his watch ....It is now 10 :00 pm Thursday.....If you get in that car ...sit in it...you will be dead by next Thursday at 10:00 pm. Dean laughed it off .By the next Thursday at 2:00 pm.....he was dead. Alex thought he was a gifted young man and said he had wished he could of had the chance to get to know him.

@paulconnah986

5 жыл бұрын

@@lynncraig6151 Alec Guinness

@chadhumphries1445

5 жыл бұрын

Chad that was the next night after the Labianca murders

What a cool concept for a channel! I'm really impressed with your knowledge of the subject and your presentation. I look forward to seeing your treatment of other historical events.

What a ghastly mansion that has replaced the old house. It should have never been demolished.

@leeanne4638

5 жыл бұрын

And never been allowed to ruin the homes original beauty,or address

@bonnieirvin5793

5 жыл бұрын

Who would have wanted to move into the original house?

@justinclayton5149

5 жыл бұрын

@@bonnieirvin5793 Trent Reznor

@Zeke1379

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinclayton5149 yea that idiot who pretended like he didnt know it was the murder house even though he took the door that had pig written on it as a souvenir and called the studio in it le pig or some horseshit like that. He's up his own arse.

@BCS1105

4 жыл бұрын

M.O'Riley I think it was right that it was demolished. Could you imagine living in that house with everything the same as it was back in 1969? Same Carpet and everything? It’d be fucking horrible. No matter how much that place was cleaned, just knowing what happened in that house would be utterly horrific to think about daily.

Re the guy who came out of his house while they were washing the blood off. It's incredible that they didn't kill him as well. Whew, talk about having an angel on your shoulder!

@forresthaggertychannel4301

5 жыл бұрын

indy_go_blue60 Tex Watson said that he didn’t shoot the guy because that was not in Manson’s plans for that night.

@chandlerwhite8302

5 жыл бұрын

indy_go_blue60 It’s pretty stunning, really.

@jeffnelson2930

5 жыл бұрын

Ummmm guys...you need to learn the story....kill the guy that came out of the house? you say? With what? Watson had already thrown the broken gun out of the window of the car and one of the knives the killers lost at the murder scene. They wanted to go back and get it but Tex overruled the girls. No weapons to kill with at the time.

@JacoWium

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeffnelson2930, they discarded their clothes and Tex threw the gun out of the car later, not before.

@kurtvonfricken6829

4 жыл бұрын

Jaco Wium AFAIK all the bullets had been fired. Did he carry extra ammo? Had he reloaded?

This is very impressive video, thanks for posting. Learned a lot of new things I never heard before . thanks

I stumbled across your video, but was immediately hooked. Great video, thanks for making it. I am starting to look at your others too! Thanks.

It's all so terrifying ty for taking the time to explain the details!!

Cool video, man! I was already familiar with the route, but I didn't know about the evidence drops. Thanks for sharing! :)

@forresthaggertychannel4301

4 жыл бұрын

Kasper you’re welcome. I’m happy it helped you out.

I love, your voice. It's so gentle. Thank you, for your informative video.

Thanks for the information! You are right about the pole. I have seen in many videos people think it is the originaly remaning pole on property since that time.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

6 жыл бұрын

L B J your welcome! It bothered me when I would see videos with wrong information, so I decided to do one with correct information about this unfortunate incident.

I read Helter Skelter six years ago and tried a little google earthing myself on these locations but I wish this video was available then. Really good information here. Thanks.

My distant cousin Abigail Folger was murdered along with Sharon Tate as well.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

5 жыл бұрын

Mary Bailey-Gates I’m sorry to hear that. How are you related to her?

@marybailey-gates3116

5 жыл бұрын

@@forresthaggertychannel4301 Thank you.I am related to Abigail through the geneology of my father.My dad's brother,my uncle is our family geneologist and was doing some research on the Bailey side of our family and found that Benjiman Franklin's mothers maiden name was Folger.Her full name being Abia Folger Franklin.So Abias niece Susan Folger married into the Bailey side of our family.So my uncle wondering if any of the Folgers were still alive was sadly led to the story of Abigail's tragic death.So long story short we never got to meet her.

@BCS1105

4 жыл бұрын

Mary Bailey-Gates That’s insane. What a story. I couldn’t imagine the shock when you found and your family found out!

@relicreapers571

4 жыл бұрын

I heard that her father put a bounty out on Manson (not my words) but of course he was too well protected in prison.

@lisalaunspach871

4 жыл бұрын

@@relicreapers571 I think that was Sharons dad but I may be wrong

Thanks for the great videos. Could you do the Donner Family?

I can't imagine wanting to buy that land .I know they ripped the house out but ...still the energy there...has got to be bad.

@lynncraig6151

5 жыл бұрын

@@billthompson6442 I agree....But I didn't think of it as "cursed". Just from my own experience and watching what has happened to neighbors over the years....I think people have more energy or energy that lingers after they are gone then people realize. When people shop for a home ...they sometimes are drawn to one not understanding quite why they like it or are uncomfortable being in it and want to leave . They can't put their finger on why ....just that it doesn't feel right. The home I bought ...I loved the garden but as soon as I walked in the front door....I felt I belonged there....even though something felt very sad . I didn't know at the time that ...4 different previous owners had all been painters. I'm a painter. I locked myself out the first week I lived there and didn't know what I was going to do for a minute . Then I had a thought that I followed up on...I walked around to the side of the house , near a vent pipe and started digging with a shovel from the shed. About 6 inches down I hit a lid. It was an old rusty jar with a key in it. It opened the front door. There had been no sign something was buried there.....I just had a feeling that was strong to go there. That key could have been buried in a lot of places around the cottage but I stopped there. You may call it intuition whatever ...I call it energy and intuition. The neighbors said months later they thought I was the previous owner's daughter because I looked like her and dressed like her .She died on the property , alone crying for help and no one came to help her. The neighbors said they heard her but assumed someone came to her aid. She was found deceased in the backyard by a relative visiting. There are many times I can recall of the same type of people drawn to the same house and moving in...... It's not the house... The World is full of distractions and the Human spirit is trying to filter those distractions , sometimes overloading or bombarding the senses or their instincts . The results can be good or bad. It seems like energy to me. Not everything has to be seen to know it exists. We know that.....some know it....feel it more than others and react accordingly .....just my thoughts on it.

@thereseember2800

5 жыл бұрын

lynn craig: What a sacred story about intuitively finding the house key! Cool story. I’m so sorry the previous owner’s cries went unheard. The poor thing.

@TJamesBell

4 жыл бұрын

There's some bad juju up there. www.travelchannel.com/shows/ghost-adventures/episodes/sharon-tate-ghost

@josephkearny5874

4 жыл бұрын

The owner of the film move his family into the home at 1500 Cielo Drive in December of 1969 because no one wanted to rent it! He also sent Polanski the bill for the cleaning of the rug upon which his unborn child and wife were butchered!

@josephkearny5874

4 жыл бұрын

The owner of the home, not film! Sorry!

Great idea for video content. I subscribed. As a student of history I find your videos very interesting

Quite some commentary, location accuracy from birds eye view and Hollywood history knowledge. Thanks for the info. Curious if you've done this for other infamous murders? If so ever considered doing one on the Cunanan chain of murders that ended with Gianni Versace?

Another great video Sharon Tate story is still fascinating.

This was great. Thank you for making it.

I freaking love your vlogs! I live here and it is so much actual info, thank you!

Can you some time do the Patty Hearst route? I went to the SLA " shootout" location a day after with my dad and took pictures?

I just found your channel, it’s very interesting. I’m pretty fascinated with this case,have been for years. My birthday is August 13th 1969. Hard to believe that Sharons son would be around my age.

@ivaneccles1869

4 жыл бұрын

My birthday was August 14th 1969, how fast is time ☹ this story has been in my mind for gawd knows how long..from Australia.

HI thank you for doing this. It is a horror to be reminded of this. You must be tired. Nice bike. I wish I could see more of you. thank you for your work. I hope you will do more of this.

Very well researched and very in depth...great video on a grisly subject

Who is here after seeing Once upon a time in hollywood? Hit like

@deanpd3402

5 жыл бұрын

I intend to see Once Upon a Time. Not getting released here till 15 August.

@user-iz6ju3tb9p

5 жыл бұрын

нαςκεямαη if you hate Charles Manson and his family then you are going to love once upon a time in hollywood I know I do

@user-iz6ju3tb9p

5 жыл бұрын

Dean PD it’s one hell of a movie you will love it if you hate Charles Manson and his family

@erinlorca1240

4 жыл бұрын

Stupid as fuck movie. His worst to date.

@sherryfink6535

4 жыл бұрын

Saw it this weekend lol.

The choosing of the place was premeditated. And it calls my attention how they followed orders because they didn´t kill the man of the house where they cleaned the blood.

Thanks for taking us through the events, so much I didn’t know about he case

Very interesting video and well done. I’m curious how you are so knowledgeable about this? I read helter skelter years ago but I don’t remember such trip details. You did an eerily interesting video here.

Seeing these actual locations where the murders threw the clothes and gun and the way every location looks is just the way I pictured in my head reading the novel ''Helter Skelter'' and seeing the 1976 film, amazing how small the Tate residence looked and how close the neighbors were its surprising with all the screaming and gunshots echoing through the quiet canyon that no one came to help or called the police! Such a horrible crime, may all the victims rest in peace!

Great research..I had no idea they travelled down my 'hood on Beverly Glen returning to the Spahn Ranch. How fortuitous the kid found the gun in his family's back yard---it could have easily been entangled on a tree branch for decades!

Thank you for this. I love retracing steps in crime scenes.

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this really good informative video. Some facts you mentioned I have never heard of before. :)

@forresthaggertychannel4301

4 жыл бұрын

Sam I’m happy you enjoyed it!

I was at the house on August 8, 1993 for the 24 Anniversary. I happened to be with Skrew and Chemlab when they were on tour and they had a show in Hollywood. Trent Reznor and Flood had invited both bands back to their place and gave us the grand tour using the "Helter Skelter" book as a guide. It was FREAKY.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

5 жыл бұрын

1santos1 did you happen to take any pictures?

@1santos1

5 жыл бұрын

@@forresthaggertychannel4301 I was instructed NOT to take my camera inside the house....besides, a week later, my camera and all my film (developed and undeveloped) was stolen out of my car. They also stole my sunglasses and chewing gum!

@forresthaggertychannel4301

5 жыл бұрын

1santos1 how much time did you spend in the house?

@1santos1

5 жыл бұрын

@@forresthaggertychannel4301 Just a couple of hours. We probably left about 4:00-5:00 am. He had one of John Lennon's harpsichords in his basement. I made sure that I touched EVERY key!

@forresthaggertychannel4301

5 жыл бұрын

1santos1 I didn’t know the house had a basement. Where was it?

Ugh, makes me kinda sad they tore the house down to build... that monstrosity. I get people like a good mansion but 🤢 I hate that style

Great job, very cool the way this video was made.

Oh wow ! Thanks for sharing

Very Nice and informative vid, Forrest!

@forresthaggertychannel4301

6 жыл бұрын

Pedro Chicherchio thank you. I'm happy you enjoyed it!

They made their choice , now they have to live with it. No amount of time will fill the catastrophic hole they created. They don’t deserve anything good to happen to them.!

@MrParkerman6

4 жыл бұрын

They just killed Rapist assholes, NEITHER side was good!!!!

Having had an extensive forensic investigation background I can very much appreciate your diligent attention to detail. Bravo Sir very well done !

Ive been fascinated by the Manson story for a long time, im from Uk. This was a wonderful presentation, I always try to put myself there and this really helped me visualise. Just to understand what part of human psychology could push humans to act in such a way. Thank you for this video, can I ask you? Have you seen the JRE podcast with Tom oneill?

For so long I had it in my mind that it was an isolated estate up in the Hollywood hills. It wasn’t until the last few years that I realized just how close the neighbors actually were. That is very fascinating. If only one of the victims could have gotten to one of the other houses. Or if Linda would have done the right thing and gone for help. But these scenarios likely could have led to more victims. Sadly there are just too many what if’s with this horrendous case.

Nicely done. Very informative.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

6 жыл бұрын

Iain McCallum thank you! I'm happy you enjoyed it.

Wow! Great video and awesome research. Well done.

This is one of my favorite and best videos on the subject

Thanks ,very interesting ,I always wanted to see the area. 50 years later it still haunts me,I remember being afraid of someone coming inside our house and killing the family,I was 12.and a fan of Sharon Tate.

@pedrodelacabra1855

4 жыл бұрын

I remember she was on the Beverly Hillbillies sometimes.

I read The Beach Boy's Mike Love's book and in it he says that Dennis Wilson picked up the girls hitchhiking one night and let them hang out at his place to have sex. They never left. After awhile the girls brought Charlie around and he befriended Dennis. Dennis was a whacked out mess at this point. Dennis introduced him to Terry Melcher and they talked about recording some of Charlie's songs he'd written. When Terry realized that the whole idea was whacked and Charlie was a nutcase, Charlie was threatening Terry and Dennis. Dennis just vacated his house and didn't pay the rent. Eventually the landlord threw Charlie and the girls out. According to Mike Love, he and Bruce Johnson were actually invited over one night to meet Charlie over dinner. Charlie tried to use the girls to seduce Mike and Bruce into an orgy. Mike said he could tell right away Charlie was a con-man and a whacko , so he and Bruce were kinda freaked out by the whole thing and just split. This was like a year before the Tate murders i think

Great Job, very interesting to listen with all the details.

Wow fascinating. Google Earth works great for this. Good job documenting this thanks. I know this area a bit may check it on the motorcycle sometime.

Dude can work that google earth like a champ.

Thanks for this. Never knew the “get away” story. What a bunch of sickos!

Another great video, Forrest!!! Maybe a Heaven’s Gate Cult, mansion location.

Great video, felt like I was watching a movie. Heard some details I didn´t knew before.

I live in Canada, but I did take a drive up Cielo Dr. when I was there, having recently read Helter Skelter.

@danceswithcritters

5 жыл бұрын

@1StarProductions There is no point, I'm just saying . Got a problem with that ?

This is another crime scene that fascinates me. Helter Skelter is a great book! I actually had a brief encounter with Vincent Bugliosi in late 1999 or early 2000 in S. Pasadena. He walked into the small packing/shipping business where I worked at the time, saying he wanted to ship a pair of eyeglasses to somebody.

@allenpeck8239

5 жыл бұрын

Did you speak to him? Tell him how much we all loved his book?

@allenpeck8239

4 жыл бұрын

@Spermwhale1000 No Homer, not Charlie, although that would've been nice, he was talking about Vincent the Bug.

@MaVeRiCk77

4 жыл бұрын

That guy was a piece of shit. Using the murders for his own notoriety & giving Kaspian immunity when she was clearly, clearly an accessory to murder on both nights. If you watch the Larry King interview from 09' you'll see him answering Linda's questions for her as he's fucking petrified as to what she might say.

Good job putting this together.

How many research hours do you have into this movie beginning to end?

That road that you went up across from the private drive. That is a former estate of Rudolph Valentino. I found your videos just this last week. I really enjoy them, please make more. LOL Happy Easter!

@forresthaggertychannel4301

6 жыл бұрын

Philip Heffner yes. His former estate was just too the left about 15 to 20 feet from that location. It still says Falcon’s Lair on the gate pillar.

50 YEAR ANNIVERSARY COMING UP THIS THURSDAY.

@craigmc3614

4 жыл бұрын

@Spermwhale1000 Yes thank you Mr. Spermwhale. Big news here in Australia all over the TV and newspapers. So is that Canada stuff with the 2 fugitives found dead which we are all very suspicious about...

thanks for posting

What’s freaky is that I hung out with the ex girlfriend of Jay Sebring (she lived with him before he met Tate) in 1987 and she was also a prime suspect in the murder trial. She was at the Tate funeral and I also identified her from the video of the funeral. She was with Richard Sylbert (they were both friends with Polanski) when I met her while they made a movie in Vancouver. I worked a video store across from their hotel and she would come in and rent movies. I ended up going to see films with her and she also introduced me to Jill St. John who was also filming a movie in town. I was so oblivious I didn’t even know Sylbert’s credentials in Hollywood. I made them sushi at their hotel, discussed cinema techniques of Scorsese, and she took photos of me on their balcony, saying I should get in the movie business. I had no clue about any of this ‘Manson connection’ at the time and only found out this week after she posted details about her connection to Sebring on Facebook.

Both Manson and Terry Melcher died on November 19th...13 years apart.

@rainblaze.

5 жыл бұрын

Therese Ember do da do doo do da do doo..... that was the twilight zone theme by the way... just thought I'd mention that, what with the copywrite laws being what they are an all

@coyotefever105

4 жыл бұрын

That’s strange indeed.

@thereseember2800

4 жыл бұрын

T-Birdus Thoracis: It is strange.

@thereseember2800

4 жыл бұрын

Rainblaze: Manson’s birthday is the same day as Anne Hathaway & Princess Grace of Monaco: November 12. Manson was a Scorpio.

@jbs9231

4 жыл бұрын

Better than they both didn't die on Friday 13th.

Most of us that have seen the crime scene pics at the Tate residence will never be able to unsee it. It was gruesome, and the thought of the Manson family committing this crime chills me to the core.

@michaelbruns449

Жыл бұрын

Similar horrors happen every day of the week somewhere in the world, but they arent sensationalized.

Love your work, love you videos. Kind of funny because I do the same exact type of thing minus video production of course when I am bored at work. In any case great job, good information, thoughtful and refreshingly accurate research. In addition to just being nice to find someone with a similar Hobby. Best wishes.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

6 жыл бұрын

nyar lathotep thank you and I’m happy you enjoyed it!

this was a horrible crime your video is great and very easy to follow