The elevation of that embankment is insane. At 110mph, I cannot imagine what it would’ve looked like seeing that train leave the rails.

Thank you, Forrest. My father was a brakeman for Southern Pacific for about 35 years and this was very interesting to me. He died in 2008 and I'm sure he knew about this.

@joshdeskin6766

Жыл бұрын

My dad was an engineer for Southern Pacific for 25 years before the merger with UP. Wonder if our dads worked together.

@one8088

Жыл бұрын

Yeh right

@trippen4391

Жыл бұрын

Dang my dad died in 2008 also… wow…a rather violent death tho lol but rip man.

@stevet8121

Жыл бұрын

@@trippen4391 Sorry to hear that. RIP.

@trippen4391

Жыл бұрын

@@stevet8121 it’s all good, you too man 👍🏽

Wow, not just the train derailment but the pipeline incident and fire too, very exciting area for a short time! Always good when you can get out in the field for these videos. Thanks again Forrest!

@hoosierhobbies

Жыл бұрын

That we teach you to call before you dig! *811*

Forrest is the modern day “Forensic Files” equivalent and has the audience to prove it. Another great dive into a story I had never heard of until now. I’m a fan!

as a person who loves trains, i’ve probably heard about this disaster at least 100 times. however, i’ve never analyzed it by looking on google maps before. thank you forrest, for providing this new perspective of the train wreck for us. if anyone wanted to know the consist, it goes as follows: SD40T-2 8278 leading, SD45R 7551 (in Kodachrome colors) trailing second, SD45R 7549 third, SD45T-2 9340 fourth and as for the helpers we have SD40T-2 8317 (snoot nose) and SD45R 7443. All SP units built in the 60s/70s.

Thank you for putting out this content. Born and raised in the LA county and had never heard of this. Can't wait for the next one.

@alvarocasillas1292

Жыл бұрын

This happen when n San Bernardino IE

I remember when this happened. It was like a horror story. Just when you thought the worst was over, boom the next event happened. It was very traumatic for the residents already reeling from the train wreck.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

Well you know aaaaaaaa……

@kirkhamandy

Жыл бұрын

Especially for those across the road who saw the neighbours' houses being totaled and thought "jeez, we were lucky"

I remember watching another video on this and a lady that lived nearby said that it was a sunny day when she was washing her dishes and all of a sudden there was, what looked to be, rain hitting her window. She wondered how it could be raining on a clear, sunny day and then she started to smell it, it was actually the gasoline coming down on her house. I can’t remember the story exactly, but it was very similar.

Never heard of this before, but this was a fascinating story. You always show us awesome content!! Thank you Forrest!!:))

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for still watching my content! I appreciate you Vianey!:))

@michaelworden9265

Жыл бұрын

I was a 16 year old Junior at Rialto's Eisenhower High School when this two part disaster occurred. The L.A. local TV news outlets and various print newspaper coverage was scary for us kids to comprehend. In the immediate aftermath of the gasoline explosion and subsequent fire, the Rialto Unified School District put all of the schools in an Emergency/Disaster protocol. I remember seeing some of the black smoke from the home side grandstands of our football stadium portion of the campus. My English Teacher gave us students an assignment to write to letters to the Editor of the San Bernardino Sun Newspaper a week or two after the Duffy Street Disasters. The newspaper published both of my letters. In one of the letters, I proposed the idea of a Jacob Engine Brake system should be implemented. One person told the paper that my idea was ridiculous. The gentleman was correct because the diesel engines in the locomotive cars are only used to generate the electricity that actually powers all systems in the trains. On top of that, I was unaware of the fact that there were two locomotives at the rear of the train until I watched this video. In 1989, the media outlets said the train was going too fast when it started its descent down the Cajon Pass and the human operators burned out the brakes. I moved to Phelan ((west side of Victorville and Hesperia) in 2011. Helper locomotive cars are a regular site on trains going to and from the direction of the Cajon Pass nowadays. Sometimes, I have seen locomotive cars in the middle of the trains.

@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975

Жыл бұрын

This has been covered over and over. This clown just making money off old content.

Thank you sir for another very well researched recap of another historical and sad disaster. You always do such a thorough and highly professional presentation of the historical events that deserve to be remembered. See you on the next one.

Great job again Forrest! I was not aware of this accident and you did a good job explaining it.

I find your posts so interesting. The mix of virtual and real is fascinating. Thank you for all the research and work you put into each one.

It's sad to see these totally preventable things happen. As is usual with a disaster, it was a combination of things and if any one thing didn't happen there wouldn't have been a disaster. Just a whole slew of incompetence all across the board.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

I agree!

@B3burner

Жыл бұрын

Right. It’s like the chain that creates the perfect storm. And any one link is missing, like you said, it’s not gonna happen. Makes you wonder how many points could they have stopped it at, and didn’t?

My dad moved to this area of Muscoy a couple years after rhis incident and the locals and my friends would tell me all about this. I walked those tracks with my friends often. That train runs right behind my dad's house and I was always afraid it would happen again. What a very interesting video sir. Thanks.

Awesome to see this video getting the recognition it deserves! Best content on KZread right here!

I remember it well - I never knew exactly where it was, and I drove past it dozens of times as a field service tech without ever knowing the exact location. Thanks for 'the rest of the story' as Paul Harvey would say!

Nice video. I was not aware of this disaster. I watch railcams and film trains, and have come to realize the power of these machines. If they cannot stop or slow down it's a disaster waiting to happen. Awesome as always Forrest!

@jonathansparks3386

Жыл бұрын

In our school bus safety classes the way it’s explained to me is a train hitting a car or truck on the railroad tracks is to use your car as an example. Your car running over a soda can is what it’s like for a train to hit your vehicle. You can think about running the crossing gates but don’t do it.

That is probably the most comprehensive coverage of a disaster that I have ever heard! Thank you for your time and effort.

I dunno why this is just showing up in my feed, but I can tell you these are some of the videos I look forward to the most🔥

Your work is fabulous, man. Love your illustration of significance, and how right you are, with regards to history. The remembrance and forget. Brilliant. Cheers

I've actually been to that train yard before. Great video. So informative and fascinating. I know I've said it to you before, but I always look forward to seeing new content from you. I look forward to us working together on that future project we talked about. Forrest Haggerty your videos are absolutely fascinating. That is because YOU are a fascinating man.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Nathan. I’m looking forward to it too!

Thank you Forrest, excellent as always. Keep the good work

I had never heard of this disaster! Thank you Forrest for the quality content.

I do remember this... As if the train cars barreling right through the subdivision at 100 mph wasn't enough, the horrific inferno that ensued a few weeks later seemed to be hell bent on causing as much destruction as possible.

Good job documenting this and the details. That train was flying to end up so far off the tracks!

wow. the thought of a runaway train going around any of those curves at over 100mph is terrifying. The fact that it was right next to a neighborhood is just tragic.

I'm english living in Thailand and I enjoy watching your videos. Thanks for the video and it's good people remember such disasters.

THANK YOU FORREST. I REMEMBER ME AND MY DAD STAYED OVERNIGHT AT A MOTEL IN MOJAVE, AND THE TRAINS WENT PAST SO OFTEN WE COULDNT SLEEP. IN THE END WE STAYED UP ALL NIGHT WATCHING TRAINS AND DRINKING MICHELOB. MY WARMEST REGARDS FROM YOUR MATE DOWN UNDER. DEAN.

Another great, detailed video. Thank you as always, Forrest. I always look forward to your videos

Always look forward to Forrest videos! Very informative and well done!!

Another great video Forrest. I would have never known about this. Thanks!

I remember it well , drove by shortly after the crash and recall train cars jumbled in a huge white hill of trona . Later when the pipeline exploded i could the flames from my back porch 6 miles away. Worked with a fellow who lost everything in that fire . What a tragedy.

Patiently awaiting your next video, I know it will be great. Love the channel!!

I remember this. Thank you for all your hard work on your very interesting videos.

I was working near there that Day and I saw it after it happened. A horrible sight and will never forget. A memorial for the crew was constructed at the Tehachappi loop.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing!

NEW HAGGERTY VIDEO?! Bro.. Looks like Im not going to bed now after all! My dad was a locomotive engineer (driver) for 40 years with CP Rail and hes always told me wondrous stories about it so this hits harder to him especially and I.

Incredible work…once again. Thank you.

Always glad to see a new video from you. Never heard of this event before and was very interesting to listen to.

I always really enjoy your videos. Looking forward to the next one. Thank you for sharing.

Looking fwd to your next brilliant analysis Forrest. Waiting in anticipation. 🙏

I remember this. That was crazy. You would think after the train wreck someone would have pointed out the gas line.

Always a good day when my fav YTer drops a new vid. appreciate the metric conversions too

I was a conductor for 5 years and with a fully loaded train (15-19,000 tons), we never went faster than 60mph. I couldn't imagine going 110mph...Basically accepting your fate

@seymoarsalvage

Жыл бұрын

The engineer had said that when he saw the curve coming up, with the speed they were going, he didn't even leave his seat, and just told his conductor that they were about to die on that curve. The conductor got into the nose of the standard cab SD40. He didn't make it, but the engineer actually made it out alive

@MrAjallday91

Жыл бұрын

@@seymoarsalvage wow...to survive is literally a miracle

As usual a very interesting and informative video. Thanks Forrest.

Awesome to see your still here, been a while since I was here!

Forrest is the teacher I always wished I had.

Another excellent video Mr. Haggerty!

Another great video. Thanks so much for these, your research and information is incredible. 🙏☘️☘️☘️

Brilliant video & great details, thank you.

Chris Shaw was an automotive customer of mine a few years after the accident. He told me that he was reasonably compensated but will NEVER forget that day.

This is an absolutely excellent video. Thank you so much for this I really enjoyed it. It was very informative and interesting

you're a great story teller. always enjoy your videos.

Another fascinating video, Mr. Haggerty! You are my favorite history teacher.

As expected another insightful short doc by the king of google maps, keep em coming Mr H.

Another great posting Forrest.. I remember hearing about the explosion when it happened. Having spent year in the Petrochemical Process Industry in operations we used to get regular bulletins regarding incidents. There are photos available of the actual explosion crater and the pipeline break and the “Tag” damage from the loader. Originally the pipe line was buried too 5 feet down but thermal expansion and contraction had brought it to I believe 2 feet below service and very few pipeline markers that there was a Pipeline below.

I just can’t imagine how wild of a ride that must of been for those guys. Terrible accident. Thanks always Forrest!

In the late 70's the Teton Dam in Idaho catastrophically failed. That would be an interesting one.

Hey Forrest, I don’t often comment but I just wanted to thank you for another well researched and fascinating video. And kudos for adding the metric system to your commentary. Always a good sign when a US KZreadr thinks about his foreign audience.

I work on the old SP lines around Houston. Two explosions that happened (before my time) were the Englewood Hump yard explosion and the Mopac Mykawa road explosion. The Mopac explosion was shown to us in New hire class in 2003 to show why us doing our jobs is critical not just to us but to the surrounding communities and to demonstrate what a bleve is.

Thank you for doing this, I an from the area and I recall the mess it created; I could see the flames from 25 miles away. Very well done again.

I can't say exactly why I'm fascinated with certain event details, but they're almost always the same ones you're interested in! Happy coincidence. Absolutely love your crystal clear presentation style. Another great piece, sir 🙏

thanks for what you do, great info

Quality as always. Thank You

Thanks man. 👍🏽👍🏽 This was very interesting.

Forrest you've really one upped yourself with this one--drone shots are great

Been binge watching your Google Earth series and I have to say that this is one of the best series that's out there on KZread. Keep doing the great work, Forrest, it's a real pleasure to get a grasp of the history using modern tools. Would love to see a video about Area 51!

Holy Smokes! I was 29 then, but don’t remember seeing anything about this back then! Another great video by you sir…

The fact is that whole area of houses needs to be cleared of that area. I am glad you answered the question of how that area is zoned because that question was in my mind when you mentioned those homes that were destroyed. Can you tell me what year the railroad was built and what year did they build those homes in that area. I was just wondering what type of deal the developers or builders had with the San Bernandino Zoning Dept to build those homes in such a dangerous area and did they do an environmental study of the effects Pretty incredible that a gas line would run parallel to the track near a residential area. I wonder what elected official got rich off of that deal. Was there any compensation to the people that survived this catastrophe? . Most interesting case but I see a situation where somebody's palm was greased within the local govt

@truthseeker2321

Жыл бұрын

I remember watching this on either the Discovery Channel or the Learning Channel. To answer your question about whether or not the people got compensation, I remember something about a lawyer who ripped them off with a class action lawsuit, and some people got next to nothing while he got rich.

@austinmccoy9743

Жыл бұрын

It's very easy to judge it now, looking back 30 years. But at the time, it would have been very easy to overlook that, and honestly it still is. Homes go up next to railroads all the time. Pipelines run under neighborhoods, all the time. In heavily populated areas, most people don't want to leave empty spaces like that over the risk of something that COULD happen. I guarantee next to nobody loses sleep over worry of a gas line rupture or a train derailment. This exact scenario that happened here could never have been predicted, and even disasters today of similar natures of extremely unlikely, so people happily take the risk, which is honestly very low, though very tragic when something does happen.

Spoiling us with your uploads at the moment!, just woke up (Bristol, England) to another fantastic video. Keep em coming!. Hopefully not long until you get your 100K plaque, it’ll be fully deserved 👏

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark! Maybe someday I’ll get to 100k :))))

Excellent job on this one Forrest. Was riveting.

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Reggie!

@reggiepaulk

Жыл бұрын

I recognize that valley… I had a flying project there last year!

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

@@reggiepaulk what was it?

YES! My favorite time on KZread! A new Forrest video! Hope you are well!

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

Thank you and I’m doing very good and well!

Always stoked when forest uploads!!

Excellent explanation!! Very thorough!! I was married to a Union Pacific engineer in Cheyenne, WY for several years. Still always fascinated with railroad stories. Great job!

Outstanding video... Very interesting history! Love your work here..!!

Always interesting, thanks Forrest!

thank you, awesome content!! keep up the good work!!

Always interesting and informative great work forrest.

Just found your channel today, sir. Nicely done and great explanation. I remember seeing something about this years ago. I was just in junior high when that happened. I don’t think I could ever rebuild in that area if I owned a home there and that had happened.

Did they not like one of your videos? This is the first vid to pass my timeline by you in a long time! One of the best content creators KZread has!

I always look forward to your new Videos, thank yo Forrest.

god i love the on location bits. makes it sooo much better. fantastic

Thank you for another wonderful video 📹

Although I don't remember this, this is great information - another great video!

Great video. Super detailed. I can’t imagine the terrible feeling of realizing your train is barreling down the mountain totally out of control.

As a 2000 baby I like hearing informing stories like these thank you ..

Great video sir! Very informative!

Hey welcome back. Appreciate your channel.

Imagine sleeping while a death train crashing into your house. Damn. RIP. Conductors probably died of hear attacks before the actual crash happened.

Good stuff as always Forrest. I hope you get back on your bike again soon.

First time watching your channel, excellent job on the video

Interesting story, Forrest. Thanks for sharing!

I really enjoyed this. Thanks, a new fan from Glasgow, Scotland

@forresthaggertychannel4301

Жыл бұрын

Thank you and welcome! I would love to visit Scotland someday!

Another great video....thanks! I never heard of this disater before, but it reminds me of the run-away train that plowed into a small town in Quebec, Canada a few yrs ago, killing many.

@blinderII

Жыл бұрын

@CN Ril guy ...yes, that's the one...in Lac Magantic. I'd love to see it covered as well.

Thankx, Fletcher!

its always a good day when Mr Haggerty posts

Excellent video. Many thanks.

Crazy!.. I remember when this happened I was in elementary school at the time, wow!…

Great video, look forward to the next.

I remember this crash. I couldn't live in one of the remaining houses. A true disaster.

What a nightmare. People dont realize the domino effect a tragedy can cause. Good work on this. I just found your channel.❤