The 1994 Cajon Pass runaway 24 years later
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Edited by Staszek Borowski [contact me via IG: bit.ly/2ryFN8I or Messenger: bit.ly/2BmiAuQ ]
Special thanks to trainfan5202, who helped me with the dialogue reenactment. His channel:
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Just wanted to do a little clearup: 1. The video was edited by me (check the description🥳) 2.The radio chatter is a reenactment, sorry for not putting that in the captions🗿
@RyansColoradoRailProductions
5 жыл бұрын
nice, i thought it was real until the crash part!
@staszekborowski6982
5 жыл бұрын
Ryan’s Colorado Rail Productions the crash was purely ‘artistic work’ and I didn’t put it through the eq’s as I wanted it to be quite surreal and out of context
@Gamerafighter76
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, you made it sound so real.
@staszekborowski6982
5 жыл бұрын
Gamerafighter76 could be done better, but I admit that the distortion is quite convincing
@erika_itsumi5141
5 жыл бұрын
Vary good reenactment. 👍
Train: Driving on Cajon Pass People living next to curves on the track: *Sweating profusely*
@youraveragedemomain4241
3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t this have more likes?
@hootkickkidkickboi552
2 жыл бұрын
Having people having ptsd due to a crash in san bernardino
@Combes_
9 ай бұрын
Damn I know crews be hittin a quick prayer before going down it
The radio conversation gave me the chills
@dylanhale7300
5 жыл бұрын
Me too dude, that's the one thing you never want to hear on the radio...
@oologahnorthernrailroad8873
5 жыл бұрын
Garrett Henderson chills
@Morbid_Railfan
5 жыл бұрын
I just ran to sleep with mom and dad after hearing those radio calls
@chrislubenetski1995
5 жыл бұрын
Me too it gives me chills you never want to hear that on a radio.
@billmahan6898
5 жыл бұрын
Too bad that's not the actual audio. Good reenactment though.😉
Cajon pass seems like a place were all freight trains go to die but that's a lot of crashes in cajon
@michaelmccarthy4615
5 жыл бұрын
No there are not a lot of crashes on Cajon and theres a large amount of rail traffic running through there.
@MetroGaming75
5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmccarthy4615 ok but these crashes made me think there's a lot of crashes in cajon for freight trains
@michaelmccarthy4615
5 жыл бұрын
@@MetroGaming75 theres a lot more crashes on Interstate 15 that runs along side the RR. The engineers would see that.
@MetroGaming75
5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmccarthy4615 yeah since man people over speed and crash
@creteking23
5 жыл бұрын
Train every 10-20 minutes everyday all year.....4 crashes/derailments in over 100 years........
The real life troublesome trucks
@NishnaValleyRailVideos
4 жыл бұрын
Buses and trains 121 faster faster!
@dislikemyvids9222
3 жыл бұрын
Crashing..... kaboom!
@PyroLuigiOG
3 жыл бұрын
Playing trouble trucks song
@tobytheoceanlinerbuilder1078
3 жыл бұрын
Did you see the last video of the pass there is Thomas music in it
@mikeweston1582
3 жыл бұрын
XD
"the Sf crew wasnt so lucky" long pause... they had minor injuries and survived. why to start off making it sound like they died lol
@otaku_nation_leader5984
4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking shit major injuries any thing amputated are they dead but no minor injuries wtf man
@Dannyedelman4231
3 жыл бұрын
Conductor Stockwell had major injuries from jumping and engineer whitest had tunol carpol too his hands and never worked again
@BCrailguy45
3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist they did died
@BCrailguy45
3 жыл бұрын
@Nathaniel Cruz yes I’m just joking around
@jewellade3304
3 жыл бұрын
yeah lol
Neat! ✔
@voldo18
5 жыл бұрын
Man I actually just looked at a couple of your videos, I gotta admit you have great quality!
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR
5 жыл бұрын
@@voldo18 Thx!
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR
3 жыл бұрын
@@calibratedindigo1338 thanks so much💙
@DudeburyL_Man78
3 жыл бұрын
@@BaltimoreAndOhioRR I KEEP SEEING YOU
@railfansbizarreadventure7458
2 жыл бұрын
@@BaltimoreAndOhioRR hi again 👋:)
welcome everyone to cajon pass, its just like any other mountain pass except freight trains come here to do one thing... they come here to DIIIIIIE
The radio convo is not something youd wanna hear at 5 something in the morning
@jacobbellwood6184
5 жыл бұрын
It's a convo that no one wants to be apart at any time.
@TrainMann
4 жыл бұрын
I heard it at 2:20 AM ... (Right now at the time of this comment being made) ... damn I’m tired
@TrainMann
3 жыл бұрын
Ight im back and now im watching it again at 500 AM
I love your videos as being a railfan!
@elizabaker5370
2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE trains
Wow this place is INCREDIBLY insane and now we wait for another crash
@youtubesecuritypatrolservi4362
5 жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@spookymini2270
5 жыл бұрын
There's acutally been a recent crash or derailment I'm not sure you'll have to look on the Cajon Pass Wikipedia page.
@usstiger_cd4165
5 жыл бұрын
Is it the Cajon Pass runaway in 1996?
@spookymini2270
5 жыл бұрын
@@usstiger_cd4165 no and sorry for the late reply
@usstiger_cd4165
5 жыл бұрын
that is okay
i like how the dispatcher is so calm in this situation
@JNRC62fan
8 ай бұрын
lol
@KiRiTO72987
7 ай бұрын
I mean it's there job to be calm in a situation like this, same as how ATC controllers are trained to be calm and offer as much help as they can to a plane in distress
Bone chilling indeed, seeing how calm this dude was did give me chills.
It still amazes me that the automatic air brake system used in the US and throughout most of the world does not seem to be in any way failsafe; one blockage in a brake pipe or bleeding of air pressure and you're left with no brakes at all. Contrast this with the UK's older vacuum brake system, which required a continuous vacuum to be applied throughout the train to keep the brakes off, making it almost absolutely failsafe since any leakage of air would destroy the vacuum and apply the brakes. True, it was far from a perfect system; the need to keep the vacuum constant cost power, be it steam pressure in the case of steam locomotives or energy from diesel engines, the length of trains may also be limited by a single loco's ability to maintain a vacuum, and by and large it was primarily passenger vehicles that were vacuum fitted, plus anyone who's read the original Thomas the Tank Engine books can tell you what a pain it can be when a vacuum pipe is damaged. Still, the idea persists that had American freight trains been fitted with a system like vacuum brakes, that are designed to truly fail safe should anything go wrong, this wreck and many others like it likely never would have happened. Of course, I'm sure you'll eventually get around to the event that made such failsafe vacuum brakes mandatory in the UK in the first place: The Armagh Runaway Disaster of 12 June, 1889.
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
5 жыл бұрын
Nowadays if pressure drops past something like 20psi or lower, full emergency brakes are applied. I've seen videos of such things happening before. My friend Trainfan5202 saw NS 38G get stopped because of that. They also go into emergency if the hose breaks especially if a coupling fails.
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
5 жыл бұрын
But You're right vacuum brakes are better.
@Nscalestuff
5 жыл бұрын
If an engineer makes a brake pipe reduction and he doesnt see the pressure go down on the eot, then yes there is a blockage or a kink in an airline. The way fix that? Initiate an emergency brake application from the rear EOT. If the eot has comm loss, then train speed isn't supposed to exceed 30 anyway. There are rules in place for a reason. Descending a grade with a known air problem is a bad decision to start with.
@danp2779
5 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren vacuum or positive pressure, they ultimately work the quite similarly -- as long as the trainline is kept at full pressure (vacuum), the brakes on a car remain off. When the trainline loses pressure (vacuum), the brakes on the cars are applied. Trains do not work like your car, where you apply pressure to the brake pedal to apply pressure to the brake shoes. Thing is, this change in trainline pressure takes time (several minutes), though with helpers on the end could be propagated from both ends (if they only had an EOT, it'd need to be sent an emergency signal) If you drop the pressure too quickly (about 15-20 psi within 3-5 seconds or so), you'll get an emergency application, where the car valves are thrown "full open" and additionally cars may individually dump trainline pressure to atmosphere to speed up the process. Now, the thing is, none of the valves / connections / etc on a train car are perfectly air tight -- they're generally good enough for normal operation, but they'll leak out over the course of a few hours -- and your brakes will quite likely start releasing. So, if NTSB didn't get cleared to start the investigation until the fires were out ... well, you'll end up with random cars in your train having "weak" applications. Not knowing anything else about the investigation, I'd imagine some of the cause would be not enough retarders set, or at least not enough set to keep the car brakes to full on.
@Wandering1500
5 жыл бұрын
This just isn't true. Almost all modern airbrakes failsafe, and in an emergency brake situation they are quicker to apply. Plus even automatic vacuum brakes can fail deadly in certain situations. See it happen.
This is great! The radio chatter recreation gave me chills. I can’t wait for you to do the 1996 runaway train.
@tomnook2612
3 жыл бұрын
Good idea to have like 5 blankets
@hootkickkidkickboi552
2 жыл бұрын
He did already the cajon pass 1996 and the 1994 one and the san bernardino 3 of them
Runaway in 1996 until 2 months in 2019.
@xshadow_slayerx7272
4 жыл бұрын
there were those 3 and then 1 in August of 2018 and a wildfire in 2016
@union_4014
4 жыл бұрын
@That Random Rainbow Kitty yep... thats makes 5...
Your my favorite KZreadr
@franklesner2322
5 жыл бұрын
*you're you gotra use the right you're
@marcas8269
4 жыл бұрын
@@franklesner2322 gotta, you gotta use the right gotta
@GarrettHaire
4 жыл бұрын
Zerelic. Renegade, being the biggest idiot on Earth I see, go away.
Why don't rail cars work like semi trailers - the brakes are activated with a LOSS of air pressure?
@1575murray
5 жыл бұрын
They do however the air reservoirs on the cars need to be supplied with air from the compressors located on the locomotives (not like MU cars which have their own compressors). There are no spring emergency brakes as on buses with air brakes as they would not be able to stop the train. Somehow the crew did not know that the air pressure at the rear of the train was inadequate. What happened here was not unlike a passenger train wreck in Washington DC in 1953 where a GG-1 locomotive and its train crashed into the basement of Union Station due to an angle cock being closed in the middle of the train enroute making the brakes in the rear cars inoperative.
@smokingbuddy2010
5 жыл бұрын
Spring applied parking brakes on EMUs in the UK are held off by main reservoir air pressure. The springs hold the brakes on with the equivalent brake force of a 4 bar brake application. There is one parking brake per wheelset. The parking brake is also a service brake. So an increasing pressure applies the service brake, but when the main res pipe drops below 4 bar the springs within the parking brake actuator apply the brakes. I'm not sure why the U.S cant have similar to UK/European freight train brakes... whatever the case maybe, the brakes should always fail safe, everytime, every eventuality...
@oron61
5 жыл бұрын
I would think there would by now be a system where some massive springs pushing the shoes down would require a massive amount of pressure to take the brakes off, or a hydraulic system. That would mean a leak would, like in the railway series, cause the brakes to slam shut. The system being used seems confusing, and I keep getting seemingly contradictory explanations that a kink OR a leak will cause failure.
@willhorowitz8806
5 жыл бұрын
Paul that is how it works, brakes off is 90 psi, emergency 0 psi.
@oron61
5 жыл бұрын
Then how do runaways happen? If pressure being lost causes all to stop, how would a kink in a hose hold back 90 PSI? And how would a lack of pressure from disconnected pipes let cars roll away like in that railyard incident with the Coors Light tankers?
This documentary has the greatest intensity and editing of all of your documentaries! Great job!
This was amazing! Can't wait for the '96 runaway
@Blougon
5 жыл бұрын
SouthEastern Railfan me too
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5 жыл бұрын
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@southeasternrailfan6048
5 жыл бұрын
CSX RF&P Guy yes, I am
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5 жыл бұрын
SouthEastern Railfan I’m legalcapablerailfan
@bradley.reim22
5 жыл бұрын
@@NOVARailandWeatherEnthusiast Im PinevilleNCRailfan
1:46 That's just spine-chilling!
@crazysaturn0805
7 ай бұрын
It's also ear defining to head phone users. 😂😂
Hey, I REALLY love the sound of crickets in the background, it makes it sound like a campfire story and I really enjoyed it :)
radio conversation reenactment is bone chilling. great work
Dude the way you put this together always makes them incredible keep them coming man you know how to make these very very informative
Awesome video & thank you for uploading it I was looking forward to seeing this
Good video and Great Editing
Amazing delivery of this event. Very well done as always
Been waiting for this. I'm excited now! Thank you for all that you do.
Nice production and tribute. Your editing skills have really improved.
Also what was the order? I thought it was 576-96-144-5976 not 144 and 5976 swapped.
You put a lot of work into these! Thanks.
Thanks for posting again! Addicted to your channel
Ya you're back
Thanks for making this there pal and keep up the good work 👍 and merry Christmas 🎁 🎄 thunderbolt siren 1000 productions and a happy new year 🎊
I really like how your knowledge of trains adds to the story you're telling
thanks for the video,happy holidays, my compliments Sir
OH MY GOOOOOD!!!!
@Jeremiah_Rivers76
Жыл бұрын
Nice _Troll 2_ reference!
24 years later and my blood still runs cold when I hear that radio transmission
whoa! dude you inproved alot this looks amazing!!!
Dude, this is awesome. Big improvement from your earlier videos, I LOVE the editing style here. I think its good that your videos have a more solemn tone now, it's more fitting to the topic. Loved the dialogue scene too. Excited for future videos!
Finally, a better 1994 Cajon Pass derailment video. Thanks.
Cool video sad story
Man, I do not know where and why I found you but I really enjoy these derailment and accident videos, they’re really interesting, you’re doing a great job.
Another great documentary! The radio conversation was low key really sad and chilling. Can't wait for more documentaries.
This reminds me of a dream I had once earlier this year that was in a similar setting as Cajon Pass with an ATSF blue bonnet f45 crashing while leading a local, it didn’t get too far damaged but it was spewing heavy, black smoke
3:22 IT'S THE BITE OF '87!
@crazysaturn0805
7 ай бұрын
More like The CRASH OF '94!
@Aviation129
3 ай бұрын
How?
Man another great one. Cheers mate hope there’s more to come.
Amazing work on the video and detail
This was intense. I watched this on my TV in the dark, I got chills down my spine. This is awesome!!! Great work!!
Love your railroad incident videos! I have a incident I'd like to suggest if you are able to fit more into your schedule. I live in Northeast Ohio and on October 10th, 2007 there was a tanker derailment near routes 2 and 44, which is also by a Lubrizol oil facility, but I don't believe it was their issue. few of the tankers caught on fire and messed up a lot of track in the area. Honestly, I have no idea what caused this and how it happened, althought I'm sure there is lots of local news stories from then that did explain everything. It's a small accident and didn't lead to any deaths, but it was a bizarre incident knowing things like that don't happen around here. Even if you don't make a video on it, keep up the great work!
Great to see you back! Love these videos!
@benstreehouse7782
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
Honestly, the radio chatter gave me chill. But I’m just glad there wasn’t any fatalities on this. Keep it up, and have a great day!
Please do the merdock Illinois derailment like if u agree
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
5 жыл бұрын
Dude nice profile pic!
@willlopeztrainfilms2888
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man love the videos
@joshuarewerts8566
5 жыл бұрын
Cresent City was another bad one near the Illinois/Indiana State line. Wiped out almost the entire town center. I was born in 78 so it was way before my time. Used to drive through there all the time and even in the 80s, you can still see pieces of the damage
@matthewdevine113
5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuarewerts8566 I was about to say
Good job👍
My wife and I and our son had gone up the pass (on Amtrak) the day before the SP coal train Derailment.
Another awesome video. There are a lot of accidents to cover some well know , others less known. Keep up the good work.
HALLELUJAH! ANOTHER DOCUMENTARY!
YAAAY IVE BEEN WAITING
Fantastic, it is just Great! As is all of your videos
Loved the video! can't wait to see what's next
That was Chilling!!😨😨😱😱 on second thought, when's the 1996 one and can you do the Secaucus train collision 23 years later?
Woah that really happened
@shanejones2568
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
That photo of that red signal came up legitimately made me shiver. There's just something about the lighting effects, the sounds, that causes that borderline fight or flight response. You couldn't have done it better.
Another Great & Informative Video Sir
2:31 that red signal looks extremely ghostly
@SgtChip
3 жыл бұрын
The sound with it makes it very eerie.
@ORANGE_Geko23
Жыл бұрын
It sounds scary as hell
@Aviation129
3 ай бұрын
Creeps me out, especially with the music
@ChimmyAnimate
2 ай бұрын
Now That's what i call a true "Train-related Horror movie"
Jesus the radio gives me chills
Whatever you did for the radio conversation was perfect
Best one yet! Keep it up man!
Am I the only one that’s confused at the beginning
@vernondouglas4425
5 жыл бұрын
no , your not
@TrailsVonMudder
5 жыл бұрын
yeah, same until I figured out this was a part 2
@anhkietduongdo
5 жыл бұрын
TrailsVonMudder What do you mean “part 2”?
Man we’re did you go?
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
5 жыл бұрын
Places.
@JacJGraham
5 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren Thats nice. Doin some things I see?
@jonmacdonald5345
5 жыл бұрын
Phill the E2 Class tank engine He was on to catch a predator you didn't see!
@UnionPacificYT2
5 жыл бұрын
@Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions Can you do a documentary about the crash about AWVR 7375 and 7346 Lash-up twins
@eriktrainzfan9429
5 жыл бұрын
@@UnionPacificYT2 He only does documentaries about crashes that happened in real life
Your videos are getting better. Keep it up.
Thank you for the video!
The santa fe locomotive in the thumbnail reminds me of AVWR 777
@maureenkoopman9378
4 жыл бұрын
“It’s a train Dewey! Not a chipmunk!!!” Someone had to say it I’m sorry
@SgtChip
3 жыл бұрын
@@maureenkoopman9378 Since nobody died in this accident and there were only light injuries, I believe a Dewey joke is appropriate here.
9450 got sold to gecx it is now a leasing locomotive
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
5 жыл бұрын
Good to know it's still with us
@taublix315
5 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren yes good to know
@RailsofEastTexas
2 жыл бұрын
CN is leasing it
I love these videos and it's great learning about all these incidents and their back stories, I would absolutely love it if you did a documentary on the 1950 LIRR Kew Gardens incident, which I believe is the worst for the LIRR. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
I like the new format for your documentary.
I have an unfortunate feeling you're doing this next year.
Wow they need to rename it from Cajon Pass to Derailment Disaster Pass.
i am a train driver for Nofolk southern and i love your Vids keep up making awesome videos
Throughout all of these episodes of wrecks and no matter how long this series grows and how large the channel gets, I still feel that *this* is the scariest episode of the channel mainly because of no music and the chilling radio talk.
Hi
Eyewitness said "It sounded like a tornado." *Get it? Whenever there's a tornado, witnesses always say "It sounded like a freight train." So I just switched the situation.
@AutismTakesOn
5 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you didn't base it off of the Peppercorn A1 express engine built in 2008?
Lol the radio reenactment the dispatcher is just yelling and the driver is just chill.
@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like I made him too chill
I like that the conductors are yelling but the dispatcher is so monotone
#notificationsquad
@dumdum7786
5 жыл бұрын
#icompleteleyforgotaboutthisguyandthisvideohappendtoshowupinmyrecommendedsquad
@zackriggs293
5 жыл бұрын
@@dumdum7786 #thathashtagwastoolongandimtoolazytoreadallthatsquad
Didn’t he already covered this
@redrexper6482
5 жыл бұрын
No.there has been multiple cajon pass runaways. He did a different one
@chaosdemonwolf1
5 жыл бұрын
@@redrexper6482 Your correct. Trains in a situation like this, meaning the crews can do little to nothing to prevent things like this
@Blougon
5 жыл бұрын
Dontavius gameplays like three runaway trains?
@alextheperson7846
5 жыл бұрын
No, he covered the 1989 Cajon Pass runaway. This is the second one, from 1994. Thing is, a THIRD runaway occured here just 2 years later, in '96.
@riesenflugzeug
5 жыл бұрын
1989,1994. geez,i hope they don't mess around and check the breaks,then they won't crash. and get injured.
The call/radio was chilling
Your videos=AWESOMENESS
where did 2 engines crashed? *_T H E C A J O N P A S S_*
Please make video about Jyväskylä (Finland) train disaster "Jyväskylän junaturma" Train was P 105 (P=express train "Pikajuna") Like if you agree
It’s very good to know that the crews of both trains survived, but I bet it wasn’t a happy thing to go through for them
I don't know why I like these types of videos so much, but never the less, I can't wait for the third accident documentary.
5:58 play's Thomas the tank engine end theme
Awesome video, as always
Man this video makes me have chills run down my spine and I can’t imagine what was it like for the engineers in the crash!
@Majaa_Fun
Жыл бұрын
Rip santa Fe 629😭😭
@locomotivesteam9334
Жыл бұрын
@@Majaa_Fun you mean Santa Fe 576?
Nice vids! I watch them all of the time
The Radio Conversation Is Spine Chilling!
When I heard the radio conversation, that gave me the chills because one, I was confused what was going on and two, the distortion of the audio and the emotions of the crew members.
It's nice to see you again
That radio is bone chilling