I’m glad I stumbled across this again!

8 ball was not in the middle of the rack on the first break it was on the bottom row

@roysmith8703

Жыл бұрын

there was a pro tournament a couple years ago where the 9 ball was on the wing and nobody noticed.

@subdue8182

5 ай бұрын

Wtf

Go to the last rack 1:17:15. Shane made a high ball on break then shot low ball. Lost table, gave ball in hand. Ref stood up anticipating the error, allowed it to happen then called a foul. Josh went to table and almost chose the wrong balls too but ref warned him. So wrong! I’m glad Shane won. Justice!

@knightartorias8577

2 жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert.

@ac-kt9td

2 жыл бұрын

It's ok for a ref and sportsman like to tell a player what they are shooting when they first come to the table. Telling a player while they are in the middle of their turn though is not ok for a ref. Josh could of said something. But I'm sure he didnt even realize it himself. Buts that falls on the player.

@michaelmcdonald6794

2 жыл бұрын

This is easy... in a tournament event it is up to us as players to shoot the right shot. It is the refs job to point out a foul when they occur. However, you got to be consistent. In this case it wasn't consistent which is my problem with it. Not to mention who racked that first rack?!!!! How does a ref put the 8 in the back row. Brings me to my last point always check your rack.

@andrewturner1714

2 жыл бұрын

@@ac-kt9td I would disagree. Not the ref's job. As the opponent, I would make sure they knew and if the ref did that for me as I was about to foul, I would intentionally foul but tie up a couple of their balls. So my opponent would still get ball in hand because of my screw up, but the runout would be a bit more difficult.

@ac-kt9td

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewturner1714 we will agree to disagree. He had never taken a shot that rack. So informing him what he is shooting is pure etiquette. Period.

Who racked that first rack? How does NO ONE notice the 8 in the back row?

@danielhatchett652

2 жыл бұрын

WOW i know right ?! it was the first thing i noticed too !

@bicd3244

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure of the rules for this tournament and whether the 8 on the break wins the game but maybe Josh did notice and felt he had a good chance of making the 8 on the break by keeping his mouth shut.

@renojoeb

2 жыл бұрын

That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen. I believe the refs rack the balls.

@NH_RSA__

Жыл бұрын

Two SL6s and a referee missed a bad rack?

@chuckn.1367

Жыл бұрын

@NH_RSA_260_4 bright lights must have gotten them.

it was an exciting match

yeah I was wondering why the 8 wasn't in the middle of the rack!

So slop is allowed in APA?

@ATown-ql2nj

8 ай бұрын

Yes

Good job Shane !

Shane is hitting the ball way to hard

Wait a min why was the 8ball not on the center of the rack?

1:06:16 That's not a bank shot, Ewa.

Great job Shane! I'll give you a workout on the table when you get back!

shane set up on the wrong ball and gave his opponent ball in hand, and when the opponent was setting up on the wrong ball, the Ref warned him. Shane deserved this, regardless of the mistake

I have a friend of mine that's a 620 Fargo, and he's also a skill level 6 in APA. One of these guys is a 501 and the other is a 462. I'm sorry, but this is the problem with APA ratings. These guys can't make straight in shots on bar tables with 4 3/4" pockets. That's why their Fargo ratings reflect their true skill level. I'm a 629, so I'm not that good either. 😁 Just making an observation.

@mattpeach6472

2 жыл бұрын

I can promise you the 462 is a great player. Hundreds of dollars lost to him in sets confirms that. And if it matters he's only been a 6 for like 4 months. He's not one of these guys that are 6s for 20 years and never gets to a 7

@nineballjunky

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattpeach6472 I’m a 629 and I definitely do not consider myself to be “great.” Calling a 462 Fargo great is like calling a 120 average bowler great because they can win money off people that are 100 average bowlers. I’m sorry, but a 462 isn’t even the average rating for all players in the Fargo database. Search “Fargo rating distribution”, and you’ll find out that 510 is about the average player rating in Fargo. To me if your average you’re not “great”. It’s just statistics sir.

@cakins1986

2 жыл бұрын

Where do you play that a 620 Fargo is an SL 6? And is that 8 ball or 9 ball?

@nineballjunky

2 жыл бұрын

@@cakins1986 APA ratings are very subjective. I think the major problem is how the data is being tracked and entered. Some people will watch and track safties and inning counts accurately and some don't. Some league operators make sure that data is input properly and some don't. Plus, league operators are incentivized to artificially increase skill levels so teams have to break up and form more teams. It's a BAD system because the APA can't ensure the data is input accurately and fairly. Fargo has its flaws too, but not as bad.

@chuckn.1367

2 жыл бұрын

@@nineballjunky 1000% correct sir. League operators can and often do determine within a couple of teams, who exactly goes to Vegas at the start of any session.

I love ewa's laugh

here's a hint for questions about being a pro...ignore them....

Gary Barrett Caraway, Arkansas!

First rack 8 ball was not in the middle!!!

Good shooting Shane the mistake could have happen to anyone..but it worked out

Where are the comments on this video?

@girrsquee

2 жыл бұрын

Martin Botha

Hi Josh, your making hungry, I'm going out to get some chicken wings

Come on Josh how could you lose.

@ATown-ql2nj

8 ай бұрын

I've never seen him play this bad.

@mikethomas4570

4 ай бұрын

I felt for Josh, he could easily beat this guy. A lot of scratches, and the other guy lucking out not leaving Josh anything. Sickening feeling when your confident you can beat them but lose

Why didnt josh take ball in hand at 9:45?

@robertvasquez1845

9 ай бұрын

A rail was hit after contact

Well

The referee should not have given ball in hand to Josh when Shane shot the solids.

What happened???

It's called nerves

Right off the start, what idiot referee loaded an 8 ball rack up without the 8 in the middle of the rack?

Poor shot selection. They must be nervous AF.

Can an 8 ball player with multiple teams not level up by winning alot of,matches in 1 tean and keep losing purposely in his otier team?

@chuckn.1367

2 жыл бұрын

That's how this league survives.

@michaelmcdonald6794

2 жыл бұрын

It is BS for sure... their system does not do a good job of evaluating skill and dealing with sandbagging. LR playing favorites is a huge problem in my area.

@68rastas

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmcdonald6794 sandbagging is stopped by good score keeping. so if you don't care enough to really pay attention people get away with sandbagging. it's not on the league, but tournaments expose sand baggers

@michaelmcdonald6794

Жыл бұрын

@@68rastas That is a typical APA answer I have heard before. It is wrong on many points. One the player just has to miss and use that miss to lower their rating. Yes, you can put defense on an intentionally missed shot. However, despite my doing this no one's skill level among the sandbaggers got changed. I definitely score exactly as I see the match. I mark defense shots. The problem is there is lack of effort among the league operators to flag sandbaggers for unsportsmanlike like conduct. Even disqualifying their matches if need be to drive the point home on sandbagging. I believe it would help the APA to put this in their rule book with punishments listed.

@68rastas

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmcdonald6794 yes it sucks at times. I used to play against a guy (sl6)who would make shots and leave himself in really bad shape. you mark it and tell the league operator what to look out for with an individual. just because you keep score properly docent ,mean the rest of the league does. I used to tell everyone in the league what to look for. you have to be consistent with them and your own team. eventually it comes back on them. I think the new app will make a lot of changes if the league starts tracking balls made per inning. because it shows much more of the problem. but you got to get out there and have fun that's what its all about. people play completely different when it matters that's why things change in Vegas why people and teams get disqualified. anyone can have an exceptional night but the league operator can't see every game, anymore than you can. that's why the money is tied up in tournaments. all you can do is your part.

I Can Play in this Level. any one want play in Indianapolis?

Lol nice rack job.

What just happened???

Huh? U go by fargo rating..u can easily see who is a pro. It's not a case by case basis

6s are soft. Can only make easy straight shots. If they don't got it, they just play defense. Pathetic that anyone SL 5 or over aren't even incredible shooters. Just defense.

I’ve seen better 6s than this guys…

@neuvocastezero1838

2 жыл бұрын

They must have really had the jitters, it's a lot of pressure.

This is a comedy of errors. Wrong racking. Ref should not be helping one player. Instead of American Poolplayers Assn this is Amateur Poolplayers Assn.

This is not great pool, sorry. Must be the nerves.

@cakins1986

2 жыл бұрын

SL6s playing in the APA singles finals on a live stream table after several days of nonstop matches isn't going to result in good pool. Especially if you are used to watching pros.

@OzilKiD4

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, bro this is just normal bar pool. Amateur league for amateur pool lol… 😏

Change the rule of the break dictating what balls your must take. That's a stupid rule!!!!

@USMCKoontz

Жыл бұрын

Agree. After break you should have option to select whatever you want to shoot

Apa is gay

Why didnt josh take ball in hand at 9:45?

@procrastinator6902

8 ай бұрын

Bc there was no ball in hand to take. Cue ball clearly hit the rail after contacting the 2 ball.