Shaker-style doors in MDF [video 405]

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This is a #beginners guide to making #shaker-style loose tenon and mock-panel doors in MDF.
There’s about a million ways (probably more) to make Shaker-style cabinet doors, and having tried most, if not all of them, I can honestly say that loose tenons and lots of glue is my favourite way to achieve repeatable results, quickly and cheaply. As for the easiest way - well that’s a mock-panel door, and in this video I show you how to make both.
This is a version of my first ever KZread video (link below) brought up to date and extended for the @Derral Eves #30daycreatorchallenge
Other videos featured:-
My first video, Shaker-style Panel Doors - • Shaker-style Panel Doo...
Simple sled - • How to make a router t...
Hand sanding pad - • Hand Sanding Pads [vid...
Veneer edgebanding - • Veneer Edgebanding #176
More doors, and why I don’t make them this way - • More on Doors - and wh...
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  • @gettin-stuffdunn6028
    @gettin-stuffdunn60283 жыл бұрын

    You good Sir with your genteel presentation are the Bob Ross of the wood workshop.

  • @negotiableaffections
    @negotiableaffections4 жыл бұрын

    Its like watching a chef and getting hungry! I have no need of such doors but watching you, makes me want to make some. ???

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Keith! 👍

  • @bilvis1985
    @bilvis19854 жыл бұрын

    Golden oldie! 👍

  • @jasonbrown5086
    @jasonbrown50862 ай бұрын

    Just the video I was looking for! Excellently explained and kept it simple enough that I feel confident to do it myself! Thank you Peter!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    2 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! 👍

  • @darrensmith7304
    @darrensmith73044 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed the updated video. Happily watch all the oldies remastered. Hodor 😂. Even watched “tall” the way through 😉

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @craigmckee3926
    @craigmckee3926 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant!

  • @TheNottonight
    @TheNottonight4 жыл бұрын

    You should do radio you have a great voice. I can listen to you talk all day. Now that’s out of the way. Great video I always learn something new. Thanks.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 👍👍

  • @johnmoseley4141
    @johnmoseley41412 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter Thanks for your quick reply, I’m 75 years old going to build my first kitchen watching your vidios has inspired me to have a go thanks very much Regards John

  • @paulgreene421
    @paulgreene4214 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Peter I'll check them out. Keep up the good work 😊😊

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop4 жыл бұрын

    Nice quick way to do that. I must keep an eye out for MR MDF.

  • @FritsvanDoorn
    @FritsvanDoorn4 жыл бұрын

    I love shaker style. Thank you for these easy methods.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Frits! 👍

  • @bryandavies6074
    @bryandavies60744 жыл бұрын

    A master class in practicality. Thank You Peter.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍👍

  • @peterfitzpatrick7032
    @peterfitzpatrick70324 жыл бұрын

    Your original shaker door vid , the first ever vid #001, was what got me hooked Pete.. and you've come a long say since then ! 😎👍☘️🍺

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ha! Thanks Peter - and you’re still here! Amazing! 😂👍👍

  • @peterfitzpatrick7032

    @peterfitzpatrick7032

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@10MinuteWorkshop ya'll hafta beat me away with a shtick.. 😂 😎👍☘🍺

  • @3rodox
    @3rodox3 жыл бұрын

    These videos are so well produced, they're a joy to watch.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 👍

  • @MrSammyse
    @MrSammyse4 жыл бұрын

    Quality video as always, Peter. I'll be using the tips you taught to make a cabinet in the next few weeks hopefully!!!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sammy! 👍👍

  • @SA-kx9ct
    @SA-kx9ct2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great idea used this method but with a tablesaw instead of router made 30 of them and they all turned out perfect all your tips where bang on

  • @paulmurphy1144
    @paulmurphy11444 жыл бұрын

    Big thanks for these videos. Managed to make kitchen cabinets, media center and wardrobe on a budget using your videos.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is awesome! Glad they helped! 👍

  • @stevewalker7822
    @stevewalker78224 жыл бұрын

    Peter, thanks for sharing this technique for making doors for a novice.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pleasure! 👍

  • @Cradley684
    @Cradley6844 жыл бұрын

    All for simplicity Peter, Great Stay Safe Mate !!!.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Brian!👍

  • @mfcosi
    @mfcosi4 жыл бұрын

    Lovely as always. Thank you for sharing. 🇧🇷

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 👍👍

  • @CriticalThinker1967
    @CriticalThinker19672 жыл бұрын

    I substituted a biscuit joiner for the router and cut the slots that way. Worked just as well

  • @karlpopewoodcraft
    @karlpopewoodcraft4 жыл бұрын

    Love these videos Peter I really am a student of yours. I am making fitted wardrobes in our home at the moment using techniques from your videos. Thank you for sharing. 😊

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Karl! 👍👍

  • @Timshowtomake
    @Timshowtomake4 жыл бұрын

    I love the easy way shaker style doors. Also, I start to love using my new track saw that calls for an MFT top ;-) Tomorrow I go to install the big wine rack (it's done finally) Have a nice weekend Peter best wishes Tim

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tim! Hope the install goes well! 👍👍

  • @laserfalcon
    @laserfalcon4 жыл бұрын

    Well done Peter

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 👍

  • @accountshanahan
    @accountshanahan4 жыл бұрын

    Fully agree with gluing the panel. It's mad that so many people think you can't glue MDF or plywood panels, it absolutely fine even if the rails and styles are form solid wood. The panel only needs to float if its solid wood.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! 👍👍

  • @mellie4174

    @mellie4174

    2 ай бұрын

    Why does the panel need to float if it's solid Wood?

  • @markkoons7488
    @markkoons74884 жыл бұрын

    I really admire your scripting and editing. You are very watchable.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 👍👍

  • @paulgray3231
    @paulgray32314 жыл бұрын

    LEGEND

  • @michaelplays2449
    @michaelplays24494 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed the video Peter thanks

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @glennirwin4710
    @glennirwin47102 жыл бұрын

    very nice video.

  • @GospelProgressionsUniversity
    @GospelProgressionsUniversity2 жыл бұрын

    I love the "simple sled" it looks pretty nifty. I may need to build one for my self. Great video!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍👍

  • @johnburgess7165
    @johnburgess71653 жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel. Just in time... I was very nearly going to buy a new kitchen - but I reckon I'll have a crack at making one first. You explain things so clearly. Make it look really easy. Thanks. Looking forward to crunching through your videos for a bit.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks and welcome! Honestly, for a kitchen, unless you’re determined to make one, or want to use the build as an excuse to buy some tools, it’s something that I’d recommend you buy in, assuming you’re here in the UK. Kitchen cabinet sizes are standard, and widely available at prices you couldn’t hope to match if you were building your own. Personally I’d rather put my time & effort into the details, the doors and end panels, than the factory work of kitchen carcasses. Whatever you decide, I hope it goes well. 👍👍

  • @anthonybowyer1874
    @anthonybowyer18744 жыл бұрын

    Great video; very informative, and fun to watch. My favourite KZread joinery channel, keep up the good work.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍👍

  • @greedypnuthurst4112
    @greedypnuthurst41123 жыл бұрын

    Just made my first door using this method. Tracksaw, bench mounted router and one of those big old Wealden bits! went really well considering it's my first ever shaker door. Got a few to make to finish off a big lockdown project. This is definitely the way to go for quality finish. Next time I will wait for a cooler day as the glue going a bit quick! Bit stressful!!! Another fine video with lots of good advice. Thanks

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear, thanks! 👍👍

  • @stephenthompson4781
    @stephenthompson47814 жыл бұрын

    Peter, you often manage to achieve the Goldilocks rule... not to heavy, not too light, just right. Well done and thanks for your help.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Stephen! 👍

  • @scalewarmachines
    @scalewarmachines4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter! Ready and waiting.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Martin - you and me both! 👍

  • @stephenguk
    @stephenguk4 жыл бұрын

    My first Shaker-style project involved 20 doors (30 panels) in the Millard method - worked brilliantly. Thank you!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic - glad it helped! 👍

  • @dataphool
    @dataphool3 жыл бұрын

    I'm impressed. I have lived in houses with Shaker style doors, a long time ago (my 45 year old son was 2 or 3 years old.) That house was a very old house, probably turn of the last century or older. Thanks, Jim MacLaughlin, Halifax, NS Canada

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍

  • @stephenoconnor1459
    @stephenoconnor14594 жыл бұрын

    That's a neatly produced video

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍

  • @annietempleton4664
    @annietempleton46649 ай бұрын

    Hi Peter, Thanks so much for this video, it was really good and I especially like the simplicity and use of loose tenons. I will just need to get a groove cutter bit which I am going to need in the future anyway. Thanks again.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    9 ай бұрын

    Great to hear, thanks! 👍

  • @coltzahradnick7285
    @coltzahradnick72852 жыл бұрын

    That tracksaw setup is awesome

  • @mellie4174

    @mellie4174

    2 ай бұрын

    Ya I totally want this whole thing and I've no place to put anything like this 😢

  • @elguapo1507
    @elguapo15074 жыл бұрын

    Smashing! You looked under a bit of pressure in your previous video...good to see you back to normal again! 👍

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! ha - previous video was from a job back in February, and yes, the heat was on to get that job done! 👍

  • @pat1walls
    @pat1walls4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Peter - thanks 👍

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Pat! 👍

  • @pat1walls

    @pat1walls

    4 жыл бұрын

    Peter - I made a door for my sons house to close opening on side of their stairs, 1315mm high and 916mm wide. I made it from 18mm pine stiles & rails , with 9mm birch ply rebated inset panel. It had a sloped top rail - all joined with pocket screws & panel glued in. It warped!! ☹️☹️☹️ Do you think 22mm MDF stiles & rails, with maybe 9mm rebated MDF inset panel would be sturdy enough? I was concerned about 6mm panel being that large. Appreciate your views? Pat

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pat1walls Hi Pat. That's pretty wide! 22mm MRMDF for the rails and stiles would be fine, and a 6mm panel would probably be OK too, but if I were making it I'd go for 9mm, I think - gives a bit more heft to a door that wide, especially with an angled top rail. 👍👍

  • @pat1walls

    @pat1walls

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@10MinuteWorkshop thanks Peter - appreciate that! Will get some MDF sourced - there is only one place locally I know does 22mm! Will drop you a pic once sorted 👍

  • @pogg01
    @pogg014 жыл бұрын

    great stuff

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍

  • @chrisperry7963
    @chrisperry79634 жыл бұрын

    Great video Peter! Extra points for the Heath Robinson reference!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Chris! 😂👍👍

  • @MyGrowthRings

    @MyGrowthRings

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@10MinuteWorkshop I had to Google "Heath Robinson" and discovered that he's your Rube Goldberg! It took until 3:44PM but I finally learned something new today!

  • @georgenewlands9760
    @georgenewlands97604 жыл бұрын

    I made all my kitchen cabinet doors and larger drawer fronts like this about 15 years ago...still going strong, just re-painted a couple of times when my wife wanted to freshen things up and change colour.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, it's a great way to do them! 👍

  • @raysmith1992
    @raysmith19924 жыл бұрын

    Another top tip

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ray!

  • @aliazzawi3426
    @aliazzawi34262 жыл бұрын

    Good job Mr Peter greeting to you , I'm from Iraq

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ali. Best wishes from London! 👍

  • @Bill.L.Carroll
    @Bill.L.Carroll4 жыл бұрын

    Hodor! 😆😆hahahha😆😆 Well that is a pretty quick and easy method. Looks like you're set up to crank these out rather quickly. 👌🏾 Cheers for sharing, mate. 👍🏾

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Bill! Yes, I've made so many of these I could probably do them in my sleep! 👍😂

  • @Bill.L.Carroll

    @Bill.L.Carroll

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@10MinuteWorkshop Ha, wouldn't that be a waking nightmare, all these doors, and none will let me out!😳 oh damn, they're just the doors for the new cabinet build coming up...😏😆 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @nickhaley4663
    @nickhaley46634 жыл бұрын

    I make mine with 9mm strips planted onto 18mm backer, headless pinner and glue. I usually plane a small bevel on the inside edges of the stiles and the inside and ends of the rails to get the "genuine" shaker look.

  • @rogerpence
    @rogerpence2 жыл бұрын

    Peter, thank you very much for all of your videos, but especially this one. It gave me the confidence to build a cabinet with four shaker doors and it turned out great. I am pretty sure that what I did in four weekends you could have done in four hours, but no matter! Thank you again!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s great to hear Roger, thanks for letting me know - much appreciated. 👍👍

  • @MaydaysCustomWoodworks
    @MaydaysCustomWoodworks4 жыл бұрын

    Well done. I have done Shaker doors all the ways you've shown and more. I really really like the extra durability of the thick back door. But I know it's honestly not needed lol. If a client breaks a door then they did something wrong and they can pay for it to be fixed. I'm honestly not sure which I will use long term going forward. I also really like using a stopped dado for the inset panel and then using a domino. Less clean up work. No trimming needed. Straight to sanding without using a filler. And the faces are a little more flat and accurate. But honestly they are all great methods of making doors.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Funny, I find the ‘stopped groove then Domino’ to be more work, but whatever works for you, right? As long as you get a strong flat door out of it - that’s the right size - then that’s what counts! 👍👍

  • @ShopTherapy623
    @ShopTherapy6234 жыл бұрын

    I actually have all the equipment and I still make MDF doors the "easiest" way. I use barge contact cement to adhere the 1/4 material down to the 1/2 material. Once the edge is sanded, I've never needed to fill in any gaps around the edge. You definitely might need to if you only use two buckets to clamp down your glue up. Both methods work just fine

  • @christianjanes
    @christianjanes4 жыл бұрын

    Such a quality resource. I’m baffled why you don’t have a million subscribers!

  • @mururoa7024

    @mururoa7024

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spread the word.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! 👍👍

  • @kristinmcinnis5532

    @kristinmcinnis5532

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was literally thinking the same thing! I don't get it. ;)

  • @DanielBradshaw
    @DanielBradshaw4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve made a few mock shaker doors recently, worked out really well in the end, had a few issues with the hinges, but euro hinges solved any problems. I think in future I may try your first method though.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, the ‘faker shaker’ works well, but you do need to be careful with the edges, especially with hinges; euro hinges are good 👌👍

  • @markgilder9990
    @markgilder99903 жыл бұрын

    Just adding to the comment on quality of video produced. I’m just surprised that some TV diy show haven’t snapped you up yet Peter. You would make a really good presenter.👍🏻😎

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark! Very kind of you to say so! 🙌👍

  • @animationcreations42
    @animationcreations424 жыл бұрын

    I built some cupboards around the chimney about 5 years ago, I put of making the doors as it was too much effort. I was going to just slap on some 18mm sheets of painted MDF and call it 'modern design' but the more I see this design, the simpler they look to make. I don't have my router with me, but I could probably get away with cutting the slot on the table saw in a few passes Also, I set KZread to remind me when the Premiere was about to start and it ended coming through an hour and a half after it ended! I think next time I need to set a reminder on my phone as well!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, KZread reminders can be a bit flakey! 👍

  • @sewob147
    @sewob1474 жыл бұрын

    'Watch tall the way'? That's what we'd say in Yorkshire after we've seen it!

  • @Saladzingers
    @Saladzingers2 жыл бұрын

    Watching this on repeat as I’m planning a fairly hefty fitted office project - something’s bugging me - those rails and styles are 80mm, not 18 😉 But thank you Peter, this is hugely appreciated

  • @askerdanny8
    @askerdanny84 жыл бұрын

    I used mitre glue, obviously got to be 100% in right place as it sticks instantly

  • @georgegeorgiou481
    @georgegeorgiou4818 ай бұрын

    Hi Peter I was watching this video as I'm planning to do a kitchen for my Daughter in a shaker door style and I was wondering if you have a video of Make interior shaker door thank you it has been beneficial

  • @leonel1717
    @leonel17173 жыл бұрын

    Hey Peter can you start another channel where you read bed time stories? It would definitely help me sleep and possibly "calm" me throughout the next day. I'm 38 years old. Oh and great video by the way, I'm going to have a go at these doors for my kitchen. Cheers.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, thanks! 👍👍

  • @86michaeltaylor
    @86michaeltaylor3 жыл бұрын

    Great video Peter. I’m planning to make some 1950mm high wardrobe doors. Do you think the MRMDF would be strong enough using loose tenon method? I’m was planning on using 18mm for rails and stiles, 6mm for panel. Kind regards

  • @colig54
    @colig542 жыл бұрын

    I found this video very valuable, thank you. Do you recommend making the cabinet or the doors first?

  • @jimbobobbrown2730
    @jimbobobbrown27304 жыл бұрын

    Hi, love the calm, unflappable delivery! Ever considered being the bearer of terrible news on U.K. Tv at about 5.00 pm? It would be very reassuring! I haven't seen a track saw track in that flip down right angle to a fence configuration before. Could that be done with a Marita track?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi and thanks! Let's just say I'm open to offers, lol! The hinged rail comes as standard on the Festool MFT - see videos #182 and #183 for more details - but AFAIK it remains a Festool patent. You can buy the spare parts to make your own, but they are pricey. I've never tried the Makita track, but it should fit as they follow the standard Festool-pattern pretty closely. 👍 👍

  • @mikehogan1827
    @mikehogan18274 жыл бұрын

    Great video - thanks. I’m about to start on some (painted) kitchen cabinet doors, and was planning on using MDF for the panels, and poplar for the rails and stiles. Could you please comment on the pros and cons of this approach, versus the full-MDF approach. Thanks in advance for your response.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Poplar / tulipwood is a popular choice for door rails and stiles as it’s pretty stable, and obviously a harder material than MDF so likely to take knocks better - not that I’ve had any issues with MR MDF tbh. Not sure if I’d glue in the panel or not - the MDF won’t move, but the poplar may - so probably one for you to assess your environment for heat & moisture. No problem in principle with the plan though. 👍👍

  • @SammyInnit
    @SammyInnit4 жыл бұрын

    Currently knocking up some MDF Shaker style doors but I’m just pinning on the shaker rails on to a panel door. Proper faker shaker.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    It works! 👍

  • @fireblaster9961

    @fireblaster9961

    4 жыл бұрын

    You might find they will bow in time, usually after painting

  • @askerdanny8

    @askerdanny8

    4 жыл бұрын

    I made some recently and stuck 6mm to 18mm

  • @SammyInnit

    @SammyInnit

    4 жыл бұрын

    brendan ford This one is just for my own house so if it does I won’t have the embarrassment of returning to a customers property to make good. Reason I’ve gone this way with is it the height of the door is 1900 so I wanted as much strength in it as possible so I thought of doing it this way. If they bow then I can change them for a panel made in the Style of Peters but I’ve nothing to lose really.

  • @David-xu3yk
    @David-xu3yk4 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Axcaliber tongue and groove router bits from Axminster Tools a while ago... they're a nightmare to line up so I've gone with the tennon method too. So much easier!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, been there! 👍

  • @kevingerald8286

    @kevingerald8286

    4 жыл бұрын

    I use tongue and groove bits (not Axminster) or shaker bits and find that once you have the setting dialled in, if you measure the router bit height with a Trend Digital Depth Gauge (or similar) and record it for next time it's repeatable and pretty quick to set up - I always do a test piece or two for the final precise adjustment.

  • @djspoc
    @djspoc4 жыл бұрын

    Really informative, thank you! You mentioned a router table is the safest way to cut the grooves- how else could you do it? I am thinking of investing in a table saw and I am wondering if I could use that. I’m also wondering if would you use the same method for building the panel door if you were using hardwood instead of MDF?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It’s possible to use the same grooving but freehand in a router, but I wouldn’t recommend it as it’s for experienced router users only. And yes it would be possible to make the grooves with a table saw, but using an unguarded blade is a real no-no here in the UK - it’s a 5-figure fine in a commercial workshop, so I couldn’t recommend it.

  • @WobblycogsUk
    @WobblycogsUk4 жыл бұрын

    I make cabinet doors using exactly the loose tenon technique described and it's great. The only difference I normally have is I use beaded pine cladding for the panel. It's extra work but I like the look. Quick question, are you using an extension on your router so you can do above table bit changes? If so, is it any good and which brand did you go for?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! No, no extension on this one - it’s the old Triton TRA001, has enough reach to get the collet all the way through. 👍👍

  • @solobuilder7451
    @solobuilder74513 жыл бұрын

    Firstly...love the videos Peter, you’ve actually made me think about leaving kitchens and bathrooms and working solely on joiner projects.....just a quick question, your first method where you router a groove and the glue it floating tenons at the ends, how do you do 2 or more panel doors? Do you glue it small loose tenons for the middle rails or do you not route those sections?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yes, for doors with a mid-rail I glue in a small loose tenon. Not sure if it makes a difference tbh, but J always feel happier doing it. 👍👍

  • @HashMeister
    @HashMeisterКүн бұрын

    Great informative video as always Peter! I'm planning to use the second method with 18mm standard MDF and 6mm stiles and rails glued and pinned for a tall (full board height) 240cm wardrobe door. After reading comments on other videos and forums, worried about problems with warping when stuck to only one side causing an imbalance. Will warping be an issue with standard 18mm MDF? (Also plan to use 5 blum hinges per door)

  • @williammoore1852
    @williammoore18523 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video! I have a quick question; is there any reason for the choice of MDF vs solid wood for the frame of the door? As far as I can see the only reason to use solid wood in the frame (or pannel) would be if you are not painting the finished door, but was wondering if using a solid wood frame would provide any structural or other benefits?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! If the doors are going to be subject to some heavy-handed usage (toddlers, teenagers) then sometimes solid timber will take the knocks better, but otherwise, no, for a painted finish I'd always go with MRMDF personally. 👍

  • @matthewwhitley
    @matthewwhitley2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, thank you for these. Apart from safety could you do a stopped grove then put a domino/dowel/biscuit on the corners to connect the rails and styles?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matthew. Yes, you could do; I always found it easier just to continue the groove up the door tbh, but whatever works! 👍👍

  • @ningis21
    @ningis214 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed that, thanks... Different to the mortice and tennons I usually do on timber doors. Can you tell me how you deal with the cut edges on the rails and stiles when painting this style of MDF door as usually the MDF has a tendency to fur up a bit after painting and sanding the cut edges when they are right next to the installed (or stuck on) back panel is super tricky.... You could, as you mention, edge bad the outer exposed MDF edges..but what can we do for the long edges right next to the panel?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Video out next week about this exact subject. Short version; use good quality MR (moisture resistant) MDF to start with as it’s much less prone to furring up. 👌👍

  • @clivesquire6463
    @clivesquire64633 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter just found your channel & subbed you Amazing projects you are super talented , I and buying my first plunge /track saw so i have watched all your uploads on them thanks ,i have an old powerline plunge router and was thinking of putting it into a router table do you have any videos on making one as i would like to try to make on many thanks , take care stay safe , kind regards , clive.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Clive and welcome. I'll be replacing my router bench before too long, so keep your eyes out for that one. 👍

  • @Saladzingers
    @Saladzingers2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve made 3 out of 6 doors using the loose tenon method, so thank you Peter! Due to variations in thickness (and perhaps a few home workshop tolerance issues…) a few of the rail/stile joints have just a very slight lip - 0.5mm or less - but I’d really like them to be invisible when painted. Any tips? Will just a good sand do the trick, or do I need to fill first, or attack with electric planer etc? Cheers

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    If it’s only 0.5mm or so then sanding should be OK, just be careful not to be too aggressive with the sander as it’s easy to hollow out the face at the join. Material thicknesses can vary, especially between batches or if bought at different times, so it’s good practice to try and cut the rails and stiles from the same sheet, if possible. 👍👍

  • @davegreen1866
    @davegreen18663 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, thanks for this re-made episode. Finally on the verge of putting your guidance into practice! I have the Festool OF1010 router. If I had it mounted in a table, home made, do you think it would have enough ‘grunt’ to use the groover you linked to? Perhaps a question I could/should pose to Wealdon!? Thanks Dave

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave. It’s a big bit to swing, but if anything can the the OF1010 would - you’d need an 8mm arbor and collet for it though, I think. Wealden do a smaller groover, gives a ~13mm groove - lots of guys O know use that one and it works fine. HTH. P👍

  • @davegreen1866

    @davegreen1866

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@10MinuteWorkshop That’s great, thanks for your thoughts 👍 Rgds Dave

  • @rjben68
    @rjben682 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter. Great videos on your channel. Can you tell me if you recommend any particular glue for framed panel doors/ Thanks.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rod! Honestly, I’ve used all kinds of glue over the years, mostly fast-grab PVA, and I’ve never found a scrap of difference between them. I use a little quick-set PU sometimes, but PVA works great for most things! 👍👍

  • @davidosullivan3432
    @davidosullivan34323 жыл бұрын

    i had to google Keith Robinson thought he was a very clever woodworker that came up with ingenious solutions for a small shop .you where haven a laugh Peter

  • @nmclive469
    @nmclive4694 жыл бұрын

    I watched your first video on how to make them at begining of year and went out and bought a router table to make some but waiting till better weather as I need to make them outside. Quick question what router bit do you use and how deep is the groove you make, the bit I have doesn't make them very deep cheers 👍

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The bit I use is from Wealden tool - Heavy duty groover - bit.ly/HD_Groover and you’ll need an arcbor - bit.ly/Arbor_8 It’s nearing guided, and makes a 22mm deep groove. 👍👍

  • @robertleyland4252
    @robertleyland4252 Жыл бұрын

    Thank You. Excellent Video as always, MRMDF, surely once it has been painted preferably exterior paint it will become moisture resistant? obviously, I am not intending to use the MDF outside just indoors,I am looking at the cost between the two one MRMDF and one cheaper becomes made into MRMDF? Thanks.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    Жыл бұрын

    MRMDF is a much better quality board - it has a much denser core, and is essentially formaldehyde free due to the binding agents used. It’s not really about the moisture resistance. 👍👍

  • @Hvn1957
    @Hvn19573 жыл бұрын

    I saw a trick recently that I remember the old guys using when I was starting out. You referred to "swimmy" joints, when making your faux panel doors. Have you tried shaking a little salt on the surface? It'll add a little grab, but melt away quickly.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, yes - I’ve heard that trick; never tried it as I never seem to have salt in the workshop! Must give it a try next time.👍👍

  • @miketurner3291
    @miketurner32914 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, I am an electronics engineer by trade but your channel has inspired me to get into making furniture ! I have made a shaker style dressing table with draws and bed side cabinets mostly from 18mm MR MDF painted white. The the built in wardrobes are in place but awaiting 4 large doors approximately 700 x 2200mm. I intend to use the floating tenant method . Would you recommend using 9mm panels rather than for this size door and 3 or 4 euro hinges? Any help would be much appreciated

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mike! Wow, 700mm is a pretty wide door! Biggest I've done is 600 x 2200 with 22/6mm and it was fine. A 9mm panel would certainly give a bit more heft to it. I'd also use a deeper bottom rail, and a mid-rail. I'd have to do the maths on it, but I'd expect 3 hinges to be fine. FYI 18mm MRMDF is 15kg/sq m. Each hinge can take ~5Kg max. Work out the weights pro-rata, and see how many hinges you need. 4 might just be safest anyway! 👍

  • @benhendrick7609
    @benhendrick76092 жыл бұрын

    What’s the reason for cutting the grove just below centre? Love the videos!

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    2 жыл бұрын

    On a 22mm rail/stile it leaves quite a large lip to the panel; making one side 6/7mm just looks better, and also leaves the other side deeper so that when clients say ' you know I think I'd prefer a 'Victorian' panel door...' you can just flip it over and add some moulding. 👍

  • @MrMjt888
    @MrMjt888 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter In a video of yours you mentioned that you were going to do a router series. I’ve been searching for it - I want to make the loose tenon version of these doors but don’t have a router table …. Or a router! If you’re planning on doing a router series that would be awesome. If not - would you mind saying how you would router the grooves without a router table, which bit … how do do it safely etc. I’m planning on getting a basic 1/4 inch router. Cheers

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Haven’t managed but yet - it is still planned, just other things getting in the way. Honestly, I wouldn’t recommend trying to use a grooving bit handheld - any slight wobble and you’d mess up the groove. A table doesn’t have to bell anything fancy - most of my grooving was dine with a basic router bolted to the underside of a bench. 👍👍

  • @steveprice1014
    @steveprice10143 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, thanks for the great video. I'm thinking of making doors for my van conversion..would you say MDF would be ok or should I use a plywood? Regards Steve

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    If it's likely to get damp at all then I'd say MRMDF at a minimum; it's a much better board for not much more money. 👍

  • @johnduffy7502
    @johnduffy75024 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. I remember most of the information from your previous videos. In this one you don't cover the difficulty of fitting hinges to the "easy" door, which is what would put me off that method.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yes, the loose-tenon method is still my preferred way - and the only way I've made these type of doors over the last 15 years or so - but the mock-panel method does produce a working door and many won't see the difference between them. My concerns about hinges remain the same, though as I say in this video, a 15mm backer with 6mm 'facing strips' produces a door with a bit more heft, and co-incidentally, satisfies my original concerns about hinges. 👍

  • @ShopTherapy623

    @ShopTherapy623

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just depends on the hinge you're using. I've never had problems with hinges using the easy method

  • @squit60
    @squit604 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, I've made a couple of large doors using your earlier videos on this method as guide. I always struggle with glueing up as the groove is too tight. Any tips for fixing this. I guess I could do one pass on router then adjust it very slightly and do another pass.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi James. As mentioned in the vid, 1/4" grooving bit (6.35mm) and a 6mm panel gives enough wiggle room for them to glue up nicely. If they're still a bit tight, then you'll need to run a second pass to get a slightly looser slot. HTH P

  • @badrinath6059
    @badrinath60593 жыл бұрын

    Great Video sir excellent,love your system of cutting mdf boards. Could you Pls explain about it..

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi and thanks! It’s an off-the-shelf Festool MFT or Multi-function table & the hinged rail comes as standard. See videos #182 and #183 for more details. 👍 Video 182 kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yoph0pd_Z7bQf5c.html

  • @badrinath6059

    @badrinath6059

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you sir

  • @peterstreet4430
    @peterstreet44303 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter. I recently subscribed and enjoying your content, very informative and well produced videos. Would there be any problems making these doors from plywood?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, thanks, and welcome! The issue you’d have with plywoood is finishing the edges - easy enough to edgeband though. 👍👍

  • @laetitiadowman2625
    @laetitiadowman26253 жыл бұрын

    Hello Peter, what exactly must I ask for when I hire a router, the bits that go with it? I have 12mm mdf and 6mm for the styles etc. What size should the bit be?

  • @jimworrall4778

    @jimworrall4778

    3 жыл бұрын

    He used a 1/4" (6.35 mm) groove bit.

  • @jameswray6795
    @jameswray67953 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter love your videos ... do you have a link for that cutter ? Iam after a 6mm one any ideAs?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! For the grooving bit? In the video description 👍👍 Used/featured in this video:- Heavy duty groover - bit.ly/HD_Groover Arcbor for above - bit.ly/Arbor_8

  • @lukegreen1090
    @lukegreen10903 жыл бұрын

    Great video as with all on your channel. Any advise on stopping burning when routing in the slots. Tried cha find speeds and taking smaller cuts but can’t seem to stop the burning?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Usually a blunt cutter, or too fast a feed rate? What material is it - MR MDF?

  • @lukegreen1090

    @lukegreen1090

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@10MinuteWorkshop yes using MR MDF. It’s a brand new cutter and router setup so would hope that it isn’t a blunt cutter but will check it out. Very new to woodworking myself. Thanks for the quick reply.

  • @redbank542
    @redbank5424 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @tormenting360
    @tormenting3604 жыл бұрын

    Hi Pete, Can i ask your advice. Would this method you went through be OK for doors about 550mm wide by 1200mm high or would the MDF be too weak? I'd of course use three blum hinges for each door

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, absolutely. I've made doors 2200mm x 600mm this way, and they're absolutely fine. The key is to use 22mm MR MDF for the rails and stiles - if you use 18mm it's likely to bow over time. On a tall door, also consider a deeper bottom rail, and a mid-rail if it's appropriate. 👍

  • @grumpygrumpygrump
    @grumpygrumpygrump Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I’ve subscribed. I didn’t think PVA alone would hold the trim. I need to make two large wardrobe doors and I’ll try this. Can I ask why you trim to size after gluing and not just make it the right size to start with, or is it just impossible to ever get it bang on that way?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    Жыл бұрын

    Trimming back to size after the glue-up just ensures that the edges are as clean as possible prior to painting. 👍

  • @paulgreene421
    @paulgreene4214 жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter I have decided to make some shaker style doors like the ones you made with the loose tenons but I'm finding it difficult to get a router cutter that can cut 18 mm deep like the one you have. I'm wondering if you could let me know the make and number of yours or if you got it on line .I'm in dublin and trend cutters only cut 10 mm deep. I like the larger tenon. Thanks Paul.

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paul. I get mine from Wealden Tool - Heavy duty groover - bit.ly/HD_Groover and you’ll need an arbor for above - bit.ly/Arbor_8 👍👍

  • @GregHaigh
    @GregHaigh3 жыл бұрын

    Great video Peter. Quick question if I may? I see from the links you're using the Wealden Groover. I'm guessing you're using the 6.35mm cutter? What size bearing guides are you using? I suppose it comes down to ratios of stiles / rails to panel but curious what size you use and if you change them? Cheers Greg

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Greg, and thanks! I use whatever bearing comes with the arbor tbh - never changed it. From memory it gives a ~21.5mm deep groove or thereabouts; if I need a shallower fierce I use the fence. 👍👍

  • @chrisb4009
    @chrisb40094 жыл бұрын

    Great video, curious why you prefer loose tennon over a domino. They must be a bit of a pain when you come to paint?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! If you're running a groove to take the panel anyway, it's just a very quick way to do it. If you want to use dominos, then you have to stop the groove either end of the stiles, and depending on the depth of the rails, and the depth of the groove, you may end up not being able to reference off the pins/paddles for the dominos. Painting the loose-tenon doors is easy, and if there's any slight gappiness, it's easily filled. 👍👍

  • @BischBaschBosch
    @BischBaschBosch4 жыл бұрын

    Funny, I've been making doors this morning and here I am, having a cup of coffee, watching a video about making doors! It's an illness. Hodor gag gave me a giggle. You have a great way with these simple instructionals mate. I should take notes for my vids! Did you get my email btw Peter? You interested?

  • @10MinuteWorkshop

    @10MinuteWorkshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Always the way Stew - and thanks! Very kind of you to say. I owe you an email reply, just haven’t made it into the workshop yet! 🤷‍♂️👍

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