I wish they would model navies properly. Seems more than a little strange to introduce ocean based DLC for a game like this but to still abstract sea-borne combat to such an extent.

@shadowofhawk55

Жыл бұрын

I've heard the Developer is working on that right now and plans to add it in a free update to the DLC.

Said it before, saying it again: Oceania is a weird hyper-abstracted fudge to avoid allowing factions to build ships. Why? Probably for reasons we're already aware of:- - nearly every game with a naval element struggles with an AI that doesn't make a complete mess of it, and Vic is but one man. - the game already struggles with representing the complex supply system for the AI to be able to handle effectively (so much so that the AI really isn't playing the same game as the player in terms of supply; it builds roads for free over any terrain; its supply does not degrade over distance; nor is it limited in terms of throughput - which is why the AI doesn't build rail, it doesn't need it) thus adding in supply mechanics for overseas operations and beachheads is likely too difficult. Net result is bizarre, ephemeral sea-based super-powers that were seemingly untouched by the collapse and don't have to 'Mad Max' their way back up like the land factions do; have no base or port; no physical presence in the world whatsoever; and frequently magic up massive pirate raiders from seemingly nowhere at all. This is all abstracted to such an extent that you would lose no finesse if this were just a text only interface.

@isitanos

Жыл бұрын

IMO this is a guaranteed commercial failure, if you can't do water properly, just don't do it. It's pretty obvious that most people wanted navies.

@monochromeslave

Жыл бұрын

@@isitanos I don't know about 'commercial failure' but it's a pretty weird way to gauge interest in an actual naval system by releasing an update about the seas that doesn't include navies (which is apparently one reason why the dev released this in the way that it is). It's all rather peculiar thinking. Maybe this is symptomatic of being a one-man-band: there's no-one around to correct your course a little bit.

@Ickie71

Жыл бұрын

@@monochromeslave Hes not realy a one man band though is he?he has an army of fans alike etc across the internet hes far from alone!Youd be foolish to think otherwise!.

@Vogt156

7 ай бұрын

Its really difficult to model Navy. Hearts of Iron 4 has a pretty good approximation but there's still strange issues-its an abstraction of how it is like everything else. Naval combat is so different than land and oceans are vast which creates these situations were massive fleets will "miss" eachother. Really, any direction you go will end up with strange results... The game is on hexes too so its just a mess. I dont know how VIc deals with it.

Looking forward to another exciting series of this amazing game!

Its been sooo long. Im going to have to re learn how to play Shadow Empire now. Love that oceans are now incorporated into the game. I wanted that from earlier on but knew it was a big ask.

Great video. Thanks as always for the useful insights into the new DLC.

So excited about this dlc! Haven’t played it yet. The guy’s a genius

I have been waiting so long for this!

love watching your vids das thanks for all you do

Thanks for the explanation!

Thank you sir!

Hi,ive just bought the game after watching some of your videos recenty,i do own other games by Vic all the decisive campaigns games,so i should be able to get into this too,your videos realy help new players like me the way you describe stuff etc keep it up mate and thanks :)

Yes! I barely understand this game at all but its fascinating to watch

Looking forward to watching the series as I haven’t purchased this game…yet!

Screw the algorithm, we want more Shadow Empire! whuhahaha

Man, I missed this game!

Thanks for the series. I watched your first series on "Shadow Empire" and found it very useful. Now I'm thinking of purchasing this DLC but I want to see your play through first.

@Ickie71

Жыл бұрын

i just bought the lot!and about to play my first turn!...after watching maybe another video after this!^^

@Doc_Tar

Жыл бұрын

@@Ickie71 I recommend watching a few of his original playthrough videos. They really help make the game more enjoyable to play.

Love this game even if it was hard to get into at first. Pretty sure one of your videos was the one that made me bite the bullet and get it too.

@Ickie71

Жыл бұрын

its doing that for me,i havnt a clue what to do yet but after watching this im sure ill have a better clasp of it

I'm little affraid of this game but in the same tame much interrested in it :P Cheers!

@thomasboilesen

Жыл бұрын

it is worth it

glad to see this dlc. but i also i need me boats. i bought the dlc and then turned around to try to find my copy of "The Grandest Fleet"...failed, so bought a new copy.

If there is a better 4x pc game out there...I have not played it yet. Boring (?), never...thanks, as always Das.

@Doberdobax

Жыл бұрын

Have you played endless space ?

@eddieballgame

Жыл бұрын

@@Doberdobax I checked it out via videos & forums...prefer Gal Civ III per that genre.

Water everywhere!

By the way lovo your videos. Please COntinue!!!!!

Won me over. Interaction

For the algorithm. BTW I did't find the link for the mods :/

Big logic gap here and missed opportunity here. You can conquer the whole planet with the help of ancient death robots that you found, but somehow these MTHs are immune and all powerful... somehow... and you can't find ancient death battleships in all those harbors you captured.

OCEANIA !!!

I wonder if harder planets make it easier for player to expand early.

how do you move resources between islands like metal to start constructing assets?

How long should be the answer for the algoritin deam the contented worth it?

For the algorithm!

So are mth's like trade guilds or something? How are they described in the lore?

Where is the links to the useful Mods you say you made and use ?

Time for kino

I am feeling a strange compulsion to post one more time. 😊

This is a comment! Hope it helps :)

No navies? Weird abstracted all-powerful sea factions? Not at all interested.

This is crap it’s like a 1984 war game and then they add oceans. With no navies when similar games had navy play 40 years ago. I’d buy any game before this

this game is crap. i regret buying it.

@markwalters4525

Жыл бұрын

For the algorithm! 😄

you talk too much.

For the algorithm!