Sex Pistols official: youtube.com/@sexpistolsofficial?si=mb9PKZraJES-LrwP

@katiebates6134

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!😀

@Nitsy_Others

2 ай бұрын

no problem! @@katiebates6134

The song Black Leather was written by Steve Jones [GB1] and was first released by The Runaways in 1978. It was covered by Sex Pistols, Guns n' Roses, Joan Jett and The Black hearts & Shonen Knife

This came out in the Sex Pack singles collection. B side Here We Go Again. John & Glen wrote "Submission" to wind up Malcolm McLaren. He wanted them to write a song about bondage and submission - probably to sell a few more rubber t-shirts - so they made it about a submarine mission (and the feminine mystique). I've always thought he must have gone back to Cook & Jones later, or they remembered his idea, and came up with this. I think it's covered on GnR "Spaghetti Incident" album.

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

That ‘Six Pack’ release was and still is a highly collectible piece of merchandise. Mostly because of the artwork and graphics, plus the way it’s packaged, with the foldout laminate… but the music on several of those singles, especially on this one, was/is just inessential filler. Still, like I said… great little collector’s item. I had it for many years until one horrible night in October ‘03.

Heard this back in the 80s. Jonesy n cookie ❤

I am obsessed with girls in black leather and this song can't be forgotten it's special awesome

@mysecretworld6603

20 күн бұрын

Well nothing like being honest

A very rockabilly sound to this.

Un Altra...Cosa...🎢

Steve Jones is a singer. Probably, probably it is "Profesionals". Or his solo project.

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

It is the Professionals. They just weren’t legally allowed to release anything under that name yet.

@derekdykeman9160

Ай бұрын

@@Shikta-poobah67 Says who?

@Shikta-poobah67

29 күн бұрын

@@derekdykeman9160 Steve Jones, in his book.

@popatyourecords

20 күн бұрын

i had the single in the japanese six single pack and it has the pistols written on it

@popatyourecords

20 күн бұрын

@@Shikta-poobah67 pistols they had not even thought of the professionals

Adebayo And Wingate Love This Number On The Virtual Jukebox 🌋🌄

Sex Pistols or not, still a pretty cool song 🤘

Nice! Thanks for the upload!

This is Jones and Cook only! Not technically the Sex Pistols!

@Nitsy_Others

2 ай бұрын

Right! But it was officialy released under the name "Sex Pistols"

@howardtyler7

2 ай бұрын

@@Nitsy_Others Yes! The saying was at the time, that Malcolm McLaren was flogging the dead horse!

@jeffg4686

Ай бұрын

makes sense now - very non sex pistols for the sex pistols.

@jeffg4686

Ай бұрын

@@howardtyler7 - Love that song...

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

Yep, with “technically” being the operative term here. In reality, this was the Professionals, only they were still under contract at the time with Malcolm to release all their material under the ‘Sex Pistols’ banner. They finally got out of said contractual obligation some time in either late ‘79 or early ‘80, and the exact same band/lineup (Jones, Cook, Andy Allen) started releasing singles as ‘The Professionals’.

The swindle continues

wellyou can't refuse and you just can't choose what she's gonna do!!!!

It would be awesome with J. Rotten voice.

The Professionals/ Steve Jones and Paul Cooks band. Steve no longer plays in the band, But Paul still performs with the band playing drums. 🥁🎸👍🏻

@derekdykeman9160

Ай бұрын

The Professionals just called it a day last week.

🤟🖤

❤

The stooges-down on the street.

Down on the street rip off stooges but still good

@TerryChimes123

2 ай бұрын

It's a swindle.

@jeffreyerdtrachter68

2 ай бұрын

Not the pistols just a pile of shit according to this! And I quote John lydon johnny rotten

@Foo-oo-oo-oolsGold89

Ай бұрын

​@@jeffreyerdtrachter68Ok then 🤡🤣🤣

Wee bit of mid 70's Glam guitar solo at the end there - I like it - it's less John I guess

Класс! Целую ПиСтОлЕтОв!!!

Different, but it's got a great beat! 😀

@Nitsy_Others

2 ай бұрын

Thanks ! If you have a suggestion for a band or song, don't hesitate to suggest!

May be Sex Pistols, Steve Jones as a vocal sure.

Dyan Diamond would've rocked this

No,no,no, not Pistols

Gonk gonk a deaden

the real BLACK LEATHER is by NIGHTMARES IN WAX. This hardly sounds like 77 Sex Pistols

Otvali

Nope. Not the Pistols.

@SHEPTOE182

Ай бұрын

It was part of The Sex Pack. Here we go again on the b-side. There was 5 other 7” in the set. Definitely Sex Pistols

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

@@SHEPTOE182 Only in name. Sex Pistols ended onstage at Winterland, SF January ‘78. Reunited in ‘96 for a little while. Anything in between is McLaren mythology. This is actually the Professionals, under contractual obligation to release material under the Sex Pistols banner. If you doubt me just read Steve Jones’ book “Lonely Boy”. I think he would know better than you.

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

@@SHEPTOE182Yeah I had that Sex Pack too, with the fold-out laminate. Some of the singles were actual Pistols songs and others, like this one, were after-the-fact extras with the Pistols logo stamped on them. Nice little collector’s item, but questionable as a genuine Pistols release. I stand by what I said. This is *NOT* the Sex Pistols… or rather it’s “Sex Pistols” in name only. The actual Sex Pistols ceased to exist from January ‘78 until they reunited in ‘96 for a few years. This is the Professionals (Cook and Jones), who at the time were under contractual obligation to release all material under the Pistols banner. Just a McLaren fallacy… but don’t take my word for it. Read Steve Jones’ book “Lonely Boy”. It’s all in there.

@chuckufarlie8215

13 күн бұрын

​@Shikta-poobah67 Yeah, seems like a funny idea to me that they'd need to read the book as this, I thought, was pretty common knowledge. (But they should anyway.) However, with respect, I really don't give a fuck about what you do and this is totally cool, I'm not giving you shit, you're well within your rights and I don't have any idea I have a vote on what you get to say, you're OK by me, buuuut, hehe... I don't think it's exactly worth calling out as it _was_ released as "Sex Pistols." Nobody is going to know The Professionals (it always feels poserish knowing that and having to look it up as SP, so fucking stupid) I just don't correct people as the video title, as a juke box entry so to speak, is no more incorrect than the official release. So, that is the name of the track technically. Not just on the Sex pack but on several subsequent compilations in multiple decades. This has definitely been released more times as "Sex Pistols - Black Leather" than as "The Professionals - Black Leather" and on higher profile major distributed records that they keep on shelves to this day, so in that way the title on _this youtube video_ is correct, and yes, it is in name, but *A GUY SAYING* it is the sex Pistols would be, of course, dead wrong. I'd be telling them then, especially if I liked them. I'm going to have to look up if there ever even was a Professionals official release? I remember they had an album of some kind as I seem to remember a seven inch and a cassette tape I think my friend had. The tape was from the movie they were involved in, I believe. This has been a long time ago, haven't paid real attention to the Pistols in years. This has been one of my drinking songs for decades, though. That's usually when the Pistols stuff comes out in general, heh. I can't remember the last time I listened to rap, country, Bruce Springsteen, or the Sex Pistols sober. Honestly it may have never happened, knowing me back then. This is not the Sex pistols, but I would argue that is exactly what it is now, after being released this way. it's more "notthesexpistols" than it is "The Professionals" if I posted this to youtube I would literally title it as "Notthesexpistols- Black leather" for youtube and explain in the description. Seems to me the best compromise. Sorry for the length, but you already fucking know I've had a few. (That's what she said.)

Not the Sex Pistols

@Boilingfrogg

2 ай бұрын

Click bate

you could be leather

I was only made aware of this song when Guns N Roses covered it on the Spaghetti incident. Not my favourite Pistols song but its passable.

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

It’s a good thing this isn’t your favorite Pistols song, because it’s not the Pistols.

The Professionals

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

Yep

@popatyourecords

Ай бұрын

pistols i had the single

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

@@popatyourecords Then you should know that it was only due to a merchandising technicality, perpetuated by that lying chicken hawk Malcolm MacLaren, that the recordings being released during that period (immediate aftermath of the Pistols breakup in January ‘78) were released under the “Sex Pistols” moniker. They weren’t actually the real Sex Pistols, but rather Cook and Jones (aka The Professionals). The actual Pistols ceased to exist after that Winterland gig in SF. It was all just Malcolm’s bullshit after that, until the original lineup reformed in ‘96. Steve goes into this in depth in his autobiography.

This is not the sex pistols.

This the Professionals ????

@skaps7306

2 ай бұрын

no, this is the Pistols after the departure of Rotten

@JohnDoe-qx1go

2 ай бұрын

Never heard this before... love it... some product carry on sex pistols....

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

@@skaps7306Nope. The OP was correct. It’s the Professionals, but at the time still under contractual obligation to release all material using the ‘Sex Pistols’ moniker. They got out of said contract shortly thereafter, but it was the exact same lineup. In reality the Sex Pistols ceased to exist as an actual band after their fateful Winterland gig in San Francisco at the beginning of ‘78… until their reformation in ‘96.

@skaps7306

Ай бұрын

@@Shikta-poobah67 oh, I didn't know this, thank you !

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

@@skaps7306 Not many do. The facts have really been convoluted over the years, mostly because the main orchestrator of the myths - one Malcolm MacLaren did his best to perpetuate fantasies and fallacies about the Pistols… and much of that was carried out by releasing “Sex Pistols merchandise” that wasn’t really the Sex Pistols. There was an onslaught of these dodgy releases in the mid to late 80’s, and I’m betting that this song here and the graphics that accompany it are taken from one of those bogus albums. It gets very confusing sorting the truth from the lies, but after doing careful research (and reading the various books from the ex-members), the truth is there. Even long after his death, Malcolm’s web of bullshit still has a lot of people believing the myth.

100% not the Pistols. Malcolm owned the names and all the rights and just stamped the name on anything he thought would make money like a brand. Yes, that is Steve, but no that's not the Pistols.

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

And it’s not like Jones and Cook actually wanted to continue as “Sex Pistols”. They had already decided that it was to be a completely different band, and if we’re to take Jonesy’s word for it, as presented in his autobiographical book “Lonely Boy”, then they had already come up with the name “Professionals”, but were under contractual obligation to release all material as “Sex Pistols”. The first actual release with the “Professionals” title was the “1-2-3” single from 1980, but it was the exact same lineup that recorded and released this. In other words, this is absolutely, unequivocally *NOT* the Sex Pistols. It blows my mind that people are still buying Malcolm’s bullshit revisionism almost half a century later. Unbelievable.

@thepagecollective

Ай бұрын

@@Shikta-poobah67 I appreciate the details filled in there. Thanks.

@Shikta-poobah67

18 күн бұрын

@@thepagecollective One other thing I forgot to mention was that at the time this was recorded/released (either late ‘78 or early ‘79), Steve was in a pretty deep depression due to the implosion of the Pistols and his growing disillusionment with Malcolm, and had started using heroin… which I can easily say from personal experience is something that tends to cloud one’s judgement. He goes into this in his book, so I’ll just summarize by saying that he made a lot of bad decisions at this time, and wasn’t really too invested in his own business affairs. Malcolm was using him and the Sex Pistols brand to squeeze out whatever bit of cash he could before it was no longer marketable, and this song was symptomatic of that.

@thepagecollective

18 күн бұрын

@@Shikta-poobah67 I do remember the heroin use. It was a beak period, so I tended to avoid it.To this day I have never seen The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle and have no intentions of it. Not just because of its cheap, lying money-grab, but because of how ugly things were

@Shikta-poobah67

18 күн бұрын

@@thepagecollective The movie is ok, just so long as you know it’s nothing more than lowbrow entertainment. There’s actually some really funny scenes. Especially the bit with Tenpole Tudor singing “Who Killed Bambi”. However the bits with Malcolm’s lofty claims of “inventing the punk rock” are predictably cringey and awful… but that’s what the fast-forward button is for. All in all it’s not bad for cheap entertainment. The soundtrack has a few gems on it too, but it’s definitely not what I’d consider an authentic Sex Pistols release.

Whats this pish?

This is not Pistols!

@user-ze9jw8zu2x

Ай бұрын

It is them. It's the only one Paul Cook sang the lead on. It was recorded during the Swindle period.

@Shikta-poobah67

Ай бұрын

@@user-ze9jw8zu2xThat’s clearly Steve Jones singing, and this is the Professionals, not the Pistols.

@anthonyinglis4078

Ай бұрын

Paul Cook sang vocals on a version of Silly Thing. I thought Steve sang black leather.

@katoness

Ай бұрын

So was Silly Thing a Pistols song or not?

@anthonyinglis4078

27 күн бұрын

@katoness . No. Only two members of the band, Cook & Jones appear on it.

bra

Ridiculous... Shit 😂😂😂😂

これはいろんな意味でピストルズの曲っぽくねえなw

C'est qui le chanteur ? ce n'ais pas les sexpitols fait tes devoirs .

@Nitsy_Others

2 ай бұрын

Steve Jones

@cleancut1799

2 ай бұрын

Ce sont les pistols, après le départ de rotten

@mmm8784

2 ай бұрын

Sexpitals go to hospitals

@8000tonio

2 ай бұрын

​@@cleancut1799, C'est pas les Sex Pistols, c'est juste Steve Jones

@cleancut1799

2 ай бұрын

@@8000tonio et Paul Cook aux drums

Nothing like the Pistols. Bass line is stolen from STOOGES (Down on the street?),not bad but not Sex Pistols

Absolute shite!😂

Pistols my arse..