it was literally no serious ass reason for seunghan to be on a hiatus in the FIRST PLACE. SME is literally pushing my buttons 😭 all he did was live a normal life he been on a hiatus more then being in the group. if these rumors are true then i truly wish him the best with his education i’ll be sad asf my bias not in my ult group anymore but it’s not about me

@dianaosazenaye1313

Ай бұрын

So he not coming back

@onminds.

Ай бұрын

@@dianaosazenaye1313 SM hasn’t gave an update about him since they announced he will be on a hiatus which was months ago , so far we don’t know if he’s still apart of the group or not

@theycallmelanita

Ай бұрын

international fans don’t get it. korean fans are mental, to you this is nothing, but to them it’s like he k worded someone

@yeongyu22

Ай бұрын

He really remembered me of Lucas situation and I never really hoped anything from sm 😢 but I hope best for seunghan whatever he does

@jessi5288

Ай бұрын

I don’t think him taking the college entertainer exams means he’s going to enter college next semester. I think several idols who aren’t in school have taken them. So I don’t wanna base any idea of his status on that. But getting him out of the public eye WAS the best move. He was only going to get more and more hate and removing from the equation was the best option. But they needed to handle it all better. And perhaps the whole thing was just so traumatic he decided he won’t be going back.

The fact that Performing for 40 minutes is being used as a reason for the bad vocals is insane. Ateez performed for 40 minutes and Jongho still hit the high notes perfectly. The girls were not ready for Coachella, and the company should seriously invest on vocal training

@AS-ec9ll

Ай бұрын

Kookielit is an ateez anti, they wont mention this what a effing loser 🤣

@cvyyjg

Ай бұрын

Ikr ?! The victim mentality reached quite a level...

@emily4380

Ай бұрын

it’s stupid how stans are defending them for performing for 40 mins trying to justify their bad vocals cause if their vocals were bad during those 40 mins, how do u expect them to hold concerts for 2-3 hours??

@Catherine______

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 um that's not what she said but ok

@Gush12

Ай бұрын

True 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹

With Seunghan, I feel it’s one of two things - he is leaving RIIZE and they’re waiting to tell everyone until his contract runs out. OR the stuff that has happened to him traumatized him so bad he’d rather do school instead of be an idol. Or a third option, he’s doing this because it’s probably done by a lot of idols, even if they aren’t going right now.

@dianaosazenaye1313

Ай бұрын

People are cruel

@jessi5288

Ай бұрын

@@dianaosazenaye1313 they are and I could 100% see him saying ‘this isn’t for me’. Because RIIZE have been the targets of such horrible internet gossip and hazing from knetz.

@tubby_1278

Ай бұрын

He's done. He wants to live a normal life and the only way he can do that is by leaving the industry altogether. Who knows...he might come back years later and debut as a soloist under a different company or something

@WonheeITGIRL

Ай бұрын

Finally 🥳 Seunghan leave the SM. He dragged rizze's career. I don't want him with rizze 😭 just let the man remove from the group 🎉

@vlai6730

Ай бұрын

@@WonheeITGIRL You can't even spell riize... leave the guy alone

I can't belive i'm watching Seunghan, an innocent person be severly punished despite being the victim of privacy violation and cyber bullying just cause he lived a normal teenage life. Like he trained for years only for his ex-friends to betray him, his company to punish him and completely erase from the group, for kentz toxic asses to treat like some kind of criminal and have his own fandom think it's their priority to support a kpop cb more than a justice of a person. He deserves so much better than this. Also what is SM thinking? he is objectively the group's 2nd best dancer and vocalits. He's also their best performer and leading visual. Losing him would be a huge hole on the group's balance.

@lumutsolama4529

Ай бұрын

Why would you need enemies when u have such friends?

@user-vv1gr1fs1j

Ай бұрын

Well, they broke so many records the last time they had CB without him so I think his absence don't mean so much for the group's exposure

@jessi5288

Ай бұрын

You can’t really think about the situation emotionally to understand why SM acts the way it does. Before skill and talent, reputation comes first. It doesn’t really matter how insane it all seems that something he did before debut could affect him afterwards, that’s just sort of how it is over all. But there’s some merit in putting him on hiatus instead of canceling his contract. It means they’re watching and waiting. And when the time comes, it’ll come down to whether or not HE wants to continue or leave.

@EVVENN

Ай бұрын

@@user-vv1gr1fs1jThey could be doing better though, there’s people out there who are purposely not streaming or buying albums bcos they want seunghan back, that’s the least they can do as fans who don’t have power against a big agency like SM. Not to mention that Wonbin still has an ot7 picture as his phone wallpaper, they’re yet to forget about him so why should we?

@justtosuffer4604

Ай бұрын

Well I would say that wonbin's the 2nd best dancer after shotaro bur he's definitely 2nd best vocalist after Sohee. Overall Seunghan is one of the best all-rounder along with Sohee, both of them can sing, dance&rap.

Okay but can we talk about how good ATEEZ were at Coachella, people really are too concentrated commenting on LESSERAFIM, that they forget to mention all the praise and compliments ATEEZ has been reciving for their amazing stage

@zxd395

Ай бұрын

The world now-a-days only focuses on negativity. They constantly need smthing to take their anger and frustration out on so yea that explains why everyone's focus is more on hate

@moonyflora

Ай бұрын

That’s what I’ve been thinking about as well I’ve seen almost nothing about ateez and their coachella performance it’s completely overshadowed by lsf’s hate train😭😭

@kaizokuoluffy6557

Ай бұрын

Ateez use loud backing tracks like typical K-pop music shows, it hides unstable low pitches. They shout a lot too

@virginiacannillo7656

Ай бұрын

@kaizokuoluffy6557 Although I don't think they relied on it too much and most of the vocals were live, I think they used it well on those parts where the choreo was more intense, which is the purpose of having a backing track to begin with

@izzme5204

Ай бұрын

​@@kaizokuoluffy6557 jongho DID NOT sacrifice his vocal chords just for you to say this

Sm are doing the exact same thing with Seunghan that they did with Lucas i absolutely Hate how they deal with scandals

@sensoine

Ай бұрын

Yes and it only worsens things for future idols, it will just give more confidence to those detractors to repeat this kind of behavior

@xxblissxx_edits

Ай бұрын

i know right and people are hating our innocent boys lucas and seunghan , the haters act so smart while they are so dumped 🥱and some even said their family members , friends etc work in korea and they say they make a file in the law 🤡while my mom friend work in korea and they didnt hear in social media and the news how funny hahah sm is so dump and also the haters are also dump !

@homeland1128

Ай бұрын

not so fun fact: companies did the same shit everywhere not just sm

At this point I'm not surprised if SM kicks Seunghan out of RII7E but I'm very disappointed. Of course they will never say they kicked him out. They will just say it was his decision to leave RII7E.

@sonnyangeI

Ай бұрын

sm needs to understand that riize literally have a seven in the name, no one can replace seunghan

@WonheeITGIRL

Ай бұрын

Finally 🥳 Seunghan leave the SM. He dragged rizze's career. I don't want him with rizze 😭 just let the man remove from the group 🎉

@kalebbradley5701

Ай бұрын

@@WonheeITGIRLthis is so mean spirited

@blueroses4373

Ай бұрын

​@@WonheeITGIRL bruh what do you have against him?

@WonheeITGIRL

Ай бұрын

@@kalebbradley5701 Wdym? He has too many scandals 😭 let him out of the group. He just dragging down the group 🥲

The first time I felt that Hybe didn't care about vocals at all was when I was watching i-land. There were no vocal lessons or evaluation scenes throughout the whole season. I couldn't figure out who can sing and rap. The trainers were only teaching about dance and facial expressions.

@AUGHHHHHBBG

Ай бұрын

I remember this cus I was so confused like y’all not gonna teach them anything about that- Like yes dance is important but like they need to know how to sing and dance

@nicoleloss7987

Ай бұрын

Iland was done by cjenm. Enhypen can sing.

@yeonliim751

Ай бұрын

@@nicoleloss7987 I-Land was produced jointly by CJenm and Hybe. In the Produce series and Planet series produced by CJ alone, as much time was devoted to vocals/rap lessons and evaluations as to dancing.

@AmberSmith-mh5bs

Ай бұрын

I thought the same about I-land, it was all performance based. Then, they did &audtion which focused more on vocals.

@AmberSmith-mh5bs

Ай бұрын

Also remember HYBE is not 1 company, these groups are being trained, promoted, and marketed differently. They are from different companies.

The Seunghan situation is so ridiculous. I said it way back when they put him on hiatus - SM is going to hide him long enough until people just get used to him not being there, and then they will quietly kick him out. These days, you actually see a lot of OT6 or 'Riize is 6' comments. I would like to think those are just trolls, but you never know. He actually is my bias, so it's not like I want him gone, I do want him back but the lack of communication, not even a vague statement 'he's doing well and can't wait to re-join the other members' makes me believe SM is not counting on him going forward. It's all very aggravating considering his career and dreams are potentially ruined and it's not like he committed a crime or done something shady. P. S. Sorry for the rant.

@fotomagrol

Ай бұрын

At this point I am hopping and international company can buy his contract and debut him , he is a great artist and he deserves another oportunity.

@zoey225

Ай бұрын

i agree, like, wasn't l*cas accused of SA? (not saying that i believe the accusations) and he just came back this year with a full on documentary that defends his case regardless if it was real or not TT? why can't SM do the same for seunghan.. he has so much potential and star quality i can't believe they're laying him off just because of much more tame reasons like regular teenager activities

Seunghan was put on hiatus because the fans made a big deal out of it. Now that his hiatus has went on so long everyone wants him back. This should be a lesson to stop jumping on the hate train so quick

@bbuuny

Ай бұрын

i hope you’re implying cnetz and knetz, because from the day his shit was leaked international fans have been defending him and are the ones pointing out that RIIZE as a hole hasn’t had their privacy protected at all by the hypocrites in center 5. Also the ones who were making a big deal out of it initially were mostly k-briize, non-fans and moas (for the vid with soobin). genuinely not trying to argue, so i’m sorry if this comes off across as rude.

@taemmate

Ай бұрын

​@@bbuunyno. read old comments of pannchoa bitches. briize fandom has so many akgaes

@user-vv1gr1fs1j

Ай бұрын

​@@taemmate the whole Kbriize hate Seunghan and don't want him returning to the group

@taemmate

Ай бұрын

​​@@user-vv1gr1fs1jthe whole kbriize? nah 😂 check his talk saxy fancams he has many kfans

sakura girl uve been in the industry for 12 years. you have absolutely no excuse

@ello_pleb

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@lorineakoth834

Ай бұрын

Leave her alone it's her life am sure you don't even like le sserafim so go to your favs and leave this girls alone

@x.i_a

Ай бұрын

@@lorineakoth834 its literally because of people like you shes unable to improve

@homeland1128

Ай бұрын

​@@lorineakoth834 womp womp nobody's care bout your garbage opinion 🗑️✨

I'm not surprised that SM is trying to erase Seunghan's existence and act like RIIZE has always been a 6 member group. They did the same with Jessica from Girls Generation and completely blacklist her to the point where her time in snsd were never brought up, the members aren't allowed to even say her name. Seunghan had spent 2 and a half years training under SM and for SM to not have his back over such trivial controversy just shows that they treat idols as disposable assets, they do not respect them at ALL.

@irenesara455

Ай бұрын

Straykids had a similar case. Look where they are now

@irenesara455

Ай бұрын

What did SM do? Jessica's case isn't to compare with seunghan case, we don't know exactly why she was forced to leave. When will people realise, that the artists are under strict contracts. If it's violated, they're out, there is no guilty or non guilty. I also want seunghan back, but it's unrealistic. The "indefinite hiatus" was a mistake.

@irenesara455

Ай бұрын

To blame is the trainee management department. SM higher departments take over the "scandal", they won't listen to any of the members of riize or close staff and managers.

@mitch7094

Ай бұрын

@@irenesara455 How is getting defamed by malicious rumors considered a violation of contract tho? Seunghan didn't do anything wrong it was the netizens who spread false rumors about him and his gf at the time being underaged.

@Bella99-gm2iu

Ай бұрын

​@irenesara455 I feel like he's very controversial ngl maybe that's why sm is trying to remove him. The other members stay out of trouble (except for the rumours that weren't true lol)

sm just be doing too much fans are now begging they should bring back seunghan

@kpopsweetlemon1396

Ай бұрын

ikr

@jessi5288

Ай бұрын

But which fans are begging? Interfans or Korean fans? Like I know RIIZE is supposed to be that international group and all but they’ll still take the opinion of Korean fans over international ones.

@Furrina89

Ай бұрын

It's the fans who ran him off. They wanted him gone and now they want him back. Can't have it both ways.

@EVVENN

Ай бұрын

@@jessi5288Internacional fans want him back, it’s not like int fans are less than kr fans

SM's Management has truly failed Seunghan

Aww l'm gonna miss Taeyong so much, hope he comes back happy and healthy

@SeaDanceDream

Ай бұрын

I can’t believe how much that look suits him. It’s like his final form is being revealed and I’m here for it. 😂He’ll do so well. 🙏🔥🥁

@butterflai_

Ай бұрын

I miss him already 😭

@xxblissxx_edits

Ай бұрын

ikr shotaro and sungchan suffered alot with lucas and both of them -shotaro and sungchan were having fun in riize but toxic people just ruin poor seunghans career 🥺he did not even do anything wrong :(

@xxblissxx_edits

Ай бұрын

im missing bubu , xuxi - aka lucas , sungtaro , seunghan ,shohei and other nct universe lastart contestants and also i missed lim jungmin :( and ji hansol

The lesserafim members weren’t ready to perform at Coachella… they should have more time to focus on their singing

@AUGHHHHHBBG

Ай бұрын

I feel like hybe set them up bad. I understand it’s a good opportunity but like you said they weren’t ready

@hbrant

Ай бұрын

​@@AUGHHHHHBBGI don't understand why Source Music didn't do what Belift did with ILLIT. Refused to send ILLIT to "it's live" when members except Minju are in its infancy stage for now.

@AUGHHHHHBBG

Ай бұрын

@@hbrant right… like they know Coachella have no backtrack so their live vocals was gonna be exposed…

@allyssaearly-mccullom4964

Ай бұрын

I agree. The girls deserve more support from HYBE who treats them like trinkets. To them, It's not about making good music but selling a fantasy brings more money.

@devikakrishna7372

Ай бұрын

​@@AUGHHHHHBBG the second time, blackpink performed with backtrack tho..and their backtrack was very loud.. their videos r everywhere..pls check it out..

kicking Seunghan out is a bad idea, some groups do better after a member gets out of the team but I don't think it would be the same with Riize as they came with a solid line up already and he is one of the ace in the group

@Bella99-gm2iu

Ай бұрын

They still have wonbin and shotaro

@taemmate

Ай бұрын

​@@Bella99-gm2iuim an nctzen and ik shotaro does not know anything besides dance. he is nowhere near an ace. group lacks vocally as an sm group and seunghan is their second best vocalist. if sm wants a dance based group they should keep their 3rd best dancer

NOO NOT SEUNGHAN 😭😭 I HOPE THESE RUMORS ARE FAKE AND HE COMES BACK. SM REALLY PISSING ME OFF RN 💀💀

@pujaroy2869

Ай бұрын

Hope soooo😭

@xxblissxx_edits

Ай бұрын

yep sm is really pissing me 🤬

Ateez can't relate with the live vocals critiquing at Coachella lol. People not even in kpop were blown away by Jongho. Like Xiumin said, vocal ability matters above all else when being an idol. SM ENT is a dumpster fire of a company, but you will not catch the majority of their main vocalists being sent out not able to sing live.

@user-mx7xz5cm6c

Ай бұрын

not just majority, all of them, and not only main vocalists

@RoJa713

Ай бұрын

Real.

SEUNGHAN DOESN'T DESERVE THIS 😞

@AoDk673

Ай бұрын

He does. Lmao

@Peace_salaam

Ай бұрын

​@@AoDk673for what? Cut the guy some slack.

@xxblissxx_edits

Ай бұрын

@@AoDk673 for what ? for being a fine human being you people the haters are dumb :)

@Neoct127

Ай бұрын

​@@AoDk673he should be get cancelled for having a gf ???? Sounds ridiculous

"they simply need their villain of the week", isn't that diagnosis too simple-minded and childish? Criticism is justified and can't be simply labeled as hate in general! Being able to sing is a basic requirement for the job...

@killerpanda2086

Ай бұрын

exactly!!! most people are just begging hybe to give them vocal coaches thats all.

@kunikuzushis

Ай бұрын

ok but the things I’ve seen goes far beyond criticism especially with eunchae’s instagram being bombarded with hate. I also agree they should improve their vocals as a fan but you’d be silly to think the kpop fans’ current hate train is out of concern for the girls and not just bullying.

@AnneleeseColon

Ай бұрын

Bffr

@kijuu

Ай бұрын

​@@kunikuzushis what do you expect? that's what you get for that kind of performance. Not saying those ppl were right on doing that but the world is just cruel, deal with it.

@KiaraAlexiss

Ай бұрын

This is b.s. First of all, Sakura's vocals were probably the best they've EVER been in this performance. She posted that she's been getting vocal training the last time yall wanted to ride the hate train. Yall are just insatiable. Yes, Le Sserafim are their villains of the week. The performance wasn't even bad. Yunjin's voice cracked twice and yall know homegirl can sing already so wtf?

Listen there is a difference between hate and actual criticism, and LE SSERAFIM need to learn this along with their fans. Another kpop group performed at Coachella this year, and one of their members after their performance the next day stated that they are going to vocal lesson/practice the very next day. Sakura has been in the industry for over 10 years, MAMAMOO's Moonbyul close to 10 years as well. One of these idols has been continuously taking vocal and dance lessons and improving their vocal ability. So much so that we have pics videos and even kshow recordings of MoonByul receiving vocal lessons. And guess what - her vocals did improve. Name any other job where you can stagnate without improving or while lacking a certain skill/it not being up to basic requirements? In the real world you would get sanctioned or be fired from your job. So many 3rd gen idols have been showing off in the past 3 years of their continuous vocal training. Hell even 4 gen apart from nmixx, groups like gidle have been going to vocal lessons. Yes, they may not be up to par with IU, MAMAMOO, AKMU or etc. But they are putting in the work and it shows. Hell, TWICE got critiqued for their vocals - but instead of giving a two faced response, some of the members took note and their live stages have been sounding better. Gidle has a real shot at getting called a vocal powerhouse group by knets in the next few years if they keep working on their live vocals. Even the stage for the actors performance were a member of them sang live was critiqued. But you know what that lady did? She explained that it was not the best and that she will work on it - that is taking accountability and trying to improve. Can we say the same for LE SSERAFIM based on their actions and responses?

@blueraine21

Ай бұрын

I'm going to post here what i said in the other comment.. i mean they aren't really ready for live vocal performance.. The company set them up cos they are getting cocky about their songs charting.. They are also trying to prove a point by making them sing with no backtrack because of that encore controversy.. *If you watch their interview with yoojaeseuk, they said they didnt get a single vacation yet since debut cos they always work* .. How can they even hire personal vocal coach? and the company doesnt even provide vocal training... Also, its not like they can refuse if their company wants to sen them to coachella this early.. In short, its all HYBE's fault and the girls are paying for it for their greediness...

@AUGHHHHHBBG

Ай бұрын

SPILLL IT. I say this for artist when you get criticism don’t take is as an offense take it as a learning experience. I’m an artist (not a singer type like I draw) and sometimes I get criticism on art. I take it and I improve in those areas. Groups like lsfm have so much talent and potential but cannot handle criticism and until they do they will get bashed over and over again till they just lose their career

@mattgab19

Ай бұрын

It’s not that serious. Normal people just see a bad performance at a festival and say “who tf is that?” and move on, but kpop fans have to write a novel.

@nbd897

Ай бұрын

bla bla bla..

@violet-n-queen

Ай бұрын

It would be not serious if it was first time but their performance goes like this and they should atleast be average at singing it is their job ​@@mattgab19

Poor seunghan 😢 this is devastating

This new generation must learn the difference between criticism and hate. Remember kids, most people that criticize something don't want to hate, but want to make things better.

@lorineakoth834

Ай бұрын

Most people who "criticise " according to you don't even care about the girls or their career, they're just hating cause pple are hating then they hide under the "we're only criticising " lol. IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMEONE OR SOMETHING JUST SCROLL ON...

@elishachua6263

Ай бұрын

Because they can't handle a nuanced conversation. Saying "if you don't want it, just scroll on" is such a narrow-minded way of thinking. If you're a real fan, you would of course want your idols to improve. If you love someone and they did something wrong and NOT own up to their mistakes, isn't it natural to get disappointed in them?

@thefastones

Ай бұрын

@@lorineakoth834 What?? According to who? Me? you better not be bringing me into this, young lady. But you have a point about people just wanting to hate. And hating just to hate is very pitiful.

@happiness4654

Ай бұрын

Yeah but it's gotten to a point where it's just straight up harassment. Let's be so for real, half of the criticisms are from people who just want people to sht on, aren't they? The lines between criticism and hate are now blurred because people take it wayyyy too far and yeah, they definitely weren't ready for Coachella but considering their track record with encores, I'd say they did pretty good.

@sensoine

Ай бұрын

@@lorineakoth834are a bot perhaps 😂😂😂

If seunghan leaves the group I’m going to disappear 😭

@dianaosazenaye1313

Ай бұрын

Can't

@Sky88179

Ай бұрын

Dont harm yourself for a celebrity

@dianaosazenaye1313

Ай бұрын

@Sky88179 pushing people not a good thing and still not learning the lesson

@isha356

Ай бұрын

he was just a normal student at 17 I had my first bf it is pretty normal to have at that age and second the hate train towards riize was so force seems like someone big is behind it and sm said they will take legal action where is it no one got caught sm is just a mess right now see after lee so man gone everything is going down hill

@Glowxdebby

Ай бұрын

@@Sky88179 ik 😭😭😭😭😭

Not Sakura defending her lack of skills. For sure the other members think like this too. They will ignore the critism and continue to sing like they use to.

source music is so shady. why don't you help them improve after that encore instead of sending them to coachella?

@Mr-incredrible

Ай бұрын

THIS, I am wondering too because back then they did so good with GFRIEND.Shortly after HYPE purchase Source Music, GFRIEND disbanded....very suspicious indeed🫠, it feels like totally different management there

@newzinski6946

Ай бұрын

@@Mr-incredriblesource music is under HYBE parent company. They can’t make major decisions without it being approved by HYBE. Therefore HYBE was responsible for GFRIEND and all of its groups and subsidiaries. Big companies like this create smaller labels to prevent the Korean government from categorizing them as Chaebols and levying heavy taxes or restrictions on them. Nothing Source does now is their decision alone. It always has to get vetted and approved by HYBE. Source just manages their artists daily events and tasks etc but any decision like vocal training, etc is decided ultimately by HYBE

About Sakura’s statement, I will just leave a quote that I stumbled before “ The moment you thought you are good, is the moment you stop yourself from being better”

@lorineakoth834

Ай бұрын

I'll also leave a quote for you "The moment you realise you don't like someone you stop checking everything going around in their life"

@btsismyoxyjin6577

Ай бұрын

Woow nice

@motherhoodsbeauty9279

Ай бұрын

I will also leave a quote for you "The moment you think you know everything is the moment you don't know anything. In the end, you make yourself look like an internet troll."

@sensoine

Ай бұрын

@@lorineakoth834tell that to yourself then😂😂😂😂😂

@sensoine

Ай бұрын

@@motherhoodsbeauty9279you should take your own quote and reflect on it, you obviously don’t understand your own quote 😂😂😂😂

Please stop spreading the rumors for god sake. This is what gets idols to actually leave their group because of this nonsense. If the rumors are not confirmed dont mention it. Why didn't you mention that he was at the mall reading his fan letters on the wall????

@motherhoodsbeauty9279

Ай бұрын

rumored is what makes her money and views.

Her statement reflects like more on she wont be improving for the future

@szilaih4654

Ай бұрын

exactly, she should focus on improvement but her and Chaewon chose the route to call haters instead of shutting mouths with great vocals at stage, although I don't agree with bullying, it's not ok for them to perform like this and thinking they did good.

@kimanid.929

Ай бұрын

she’s had 10 years to improve; i think she has no desire to improve at all

@95muhdfaizal

Ай бұрын

@@szilaih4654people forgot about takahashi juri, she improved a LOT after being on rocket punch. Her nasal sound already disappeared but sakura still has that nasal sound when singing that makes me thinking that she's not trying to improve

@aesserafim585

Ай бұрын

i really wish she said "i understand that i am not the best at singing" cause even idols like miyeon and yeonjun apologized for bad vocals

@02ESHAN

Ай бұрын

I think Sakura has damaged her voice so much that if she even wants to improve it's impossible for her.

At some point, le serrafim need to address the actual criticism instead of shutting it down with, I'm gonna have fun. You can have fun and still show off your talent. Based on Sakura's letter, she just doesn't care to improve and that's a real shame.

@anagarza8326

Ай бұрын

It isn't like Sakura was going to say that they are trash of course, they need to train more but what are they expecting her to say?

Le sserafim is still not ready for the coachella, they need more training in their vocal when dancing at the same time cause they got call-out many times now. I hope they can fix that part 👍

If seunghan leaves,then idk what they're upto, he is a gem it is their loss tho

Man i feel so bad for Seunghan 😢

RIIZE will always be 7 to me. Looks like I get to save money for other groups on other labels.

@taemmate

Ай бұрын

boycott till he comes back

And ateez will always be underrated 😢😢 Nobody talks about them🤐🤐 Kpop fans will never appreciate ateez and their talent and even news outlets or this channel as well won't praise their talent

@Enhacoreee

Ай бұрын

They literally ate!

@AS-ec9ll

Ай бұрын

Kookielit has always had something against ateez for some reason, they never mention them like rn when they are the first kpop boy group to perform there, they’re lowkey an anti

@lowendplayer4259

Ай бұрын

@@AS-ec9ll LOL you think this page post anything positive? I just click it because to see what's happening in comment section for fun. This YT page love to dick ride a hate train shit to get views..well got mine I guess even if I paused right away..In YT u can't even block this kind of pages to show up in your feed. In every K-pop search this kind if page pop ups where 90% of them just love to create drama.

@RoJa713

Ай бұрын

​@@AS-ec9llseriously? I'm unsubscribing.

@brennathecatlover4360

Ай бұрын

Ateez aren’t underrated 💀

If seunghan leaves riize I'm leaving earth

@Enhacoreee

Ай бұрын

Can i come with you!?

@Jonniibuzz

Ай бұрын

@@Enhacoreee ofcc!

@kunju7593

Ай бұрын

Uhhh

@tubby_1278

Ай бұрын

I used to think like this too if I ever lost my idol but I don't think my bias would want me to kill myself over them

@Enhacoreee

Ай бұрын

@@tubby_1278 BRO! IDK LIKE SEUNGHAN IS INNOCENT.. HE WAS JUST LIVING HIS TEEN LIFE!! I FEEL SO BAD FOR HIM!!! I WANT HIM BACK THAT'S IT..

If Seunghan leaves im going to lose it

@yeol174

Ай бұрын

Same

@AoDk673

Ай бұрын

Nobody cares

@BABYMON7ERFAN1

Ай бұрын

@@AoDk673 about you

@xxblissxx_edits

Ай бұрын

@@AoDk673 about your thoughts ......... so leave!

💖TIMESTAMPS 💖 0:00 - 1:30: Taeyong beginning military enlistment 1:30 - 3:16: Fifty Fifty will return with a new lineup alongside Keena 3:16 - 6:10: LE SSERAFIM Coachella performance and backlash 6:10 - 7:17: Sakura's statement on Coachella performance backlash 7:17 - 8:21: Seunghan hiatus update and rumors

@cybertrex5649

Ай бұрын

Ty

@Serena-Vanderwoodsen

Ай бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

@Serena-Vanderwoodsen

Ай бұрын

1:32 so basically the same as Secret Number. It’s going to flop lol. 6:15 that women baffles me like no other. She obviously KNOWS that she is a lame singer, but she does not want to improve despite training/being in the industry for 5+ yrs?? I honestly wonder what her colleagues think about her… then again, they’re just as bad when singing live too.

@meIatonin

Ай бұрын

Thank you queen / king ❤❤

The issue with Seunghan and Riize it’s just the fact that the company refuses to say anything at all. I feel like that is the biggest issue is that for whatever reason entertainment keeps doing this when we look at the NCT situation with Lucas they did the same shit they sat there, and they didn’t say anything at all. It took a year and a half before they finally told the fandom and everyone that he was officially leaving the group and then it took three years altogether before they did anything with him because we were all aware that he still was under contract because SM never talked about ending their contract with him. The fans are pissed because this was the stupidest thing to put someone on hiatus for especially dealing that the fandom wasn’t even that upset the part of the fandom that was upset was a very small amount compared to the rest who did not care and I feel like that’s always been an issue with SM though they don’t sit there and pay attention to where their groups are most popular. Looking back at both situations, one of them was a situation that the company could’ve done something about, but didn’t mainly because of the fact that there were so many fans who were already working and doing SM‘s job in debunking everything that was happening so they didn’t feel the need to do anything, but then they proceeded to not do anything with their artist, even though a majority of the fans Were asking for closure. A lot of them after the first six months of that scandal had gotten to the point where they understood that everything was made up and then of course it was exactly a year after everything happened that the initial accuser literally admitted to making it up and that their plan worked and then sold their Twitter account. Could’ve done anything and chose to do nothing and that’s when fans got really riled up because they wanted answers. Even with this situation it’s like if you even look at where the fandom stands it’s like 75% of the fandom genuinely just wants this man back or closure and other 25% could give two shits. It’s not even that they’re upset that he dated they just don’t care because half of them joined after he had already went on hiatus and the other half feel like the group is young enough that if they lost the member now it wouldn’t really Hinder their success. About 95% of their fandom is international fans they’re not the Korean fans they’re not the people who were upset about him possibly having dated before they were the 5% and yet the companies acting as if the 5% is the percent that they need to worry about the most it makes sense to want domestic fans, but at the same time they’re acting as if the Japanese fans and Chinese fans don’t exist and like they’re not going to sit there still support them. They’re acting like the fans from other Asian countries, such as Indonesia and Thailand and Singapore, who are some of the biggest countries that consistently have K-pop charting in them and support them so much and Asia we’re going to stop supporting because this mandated when they couldn’t care less either. they’re pivoting to their groups towards the international market starting with NCT in the first place meaning that it would make no sense to ignore with the international fans, the biggest market that you were going and aiming for one versus what a small percentage of people who upset one. It’s almost as of as entertainment, so desperately wants to hit the international market, but so afraid of pissing off domestic fans and they don’t understand that they’re going to have to piss some of them off in order to succeed in what they’re trying to do.

@blueroses4373

Ай бұрын

This one makes so much sense

There is a difference between critisism and like you said "finding their villain of the week" they were performing at coachella not music bank or inkigayo, their dance and performance skills are top-notch but most of them need to improve their vocals it's a basic requirement for the career they're pursuing 😄

@anagarza8326

Ай бұрын

I hope you meet are the requirements for the career you are pursuing as well.

Ateezz were so good at Coachella they were fire💅🔥🔥

i’m in no way a fan of nct but that was very sweet

My problem with Seunghan is just the point (how the comment says) that if he really leaves the group, they will just do what the one wanted who leaked all of this. I hope he won’t go, but I think so, because all signs are there.

If Seunghan does indeed leave Riize I won’t be stanning anymore…

@VilmaMks

Ай бұрын

That's fine. They still have us.

@notminghao

Ай бұрын

@@VilmaMks it sounds like a mean thing to say considering other members but I won’t just Stan as much

@amelie8700

Ай бұрын

Yeah me too girl

Sakura really seemed like she didn't care she said they gave their best, is this really their standard? and why isn't hybe providing vocal trainers instead of removing videos of lsfrm from net

@PlatyMadness

Ай бұрын

If she is tone deaf there is no amount of training that can fix that. That would be like hiring a basketball trainer for a person who cannot walk. I dont know why people would want to force something like that. Whats important is people enjoy themselves and vote with their money. If the majority of Koreans are Tone deaf then why burst their bubble.

@dannililiac

Ай бұрын

honestly i took it as doing their best dispite the circumstances. like the best they could do in the moment type of deal, not the best of what they're capable of with more training

@EclesysGalaxy

Ай бұрын

Like she didn't care? Sakura was doing her best with what she got. She's just not cut to be a live vocalist, like most idols.

@hajarhout6242

Ай бұрын

@@EclesysGalaxybut how she has ben an idol for 12 years and was in 4 groups still can’t sing is that okay with you

@heyitsazr2115

Ай бұрын

Personally, I believe that they know their criticisms and can improve before next week's performance, which I bet they already took action. Kkura wrote that letter to experess her gratitude, acknowledged her imperfection, and is dedicated to improve. Her letter reflects her resilient mindset, which is something good to embody and reinforces the core concept of le sserafim: self-confidence and strong will to move forward without being swayed by the world's gaze or judgement.

I heard that Seunghan is RIIZE’s mood maker as in the funniest member. But if he leaves, I wish him the best and we can celebrate the MEMORIES of OT7.

@taemmate

Ай бұрын

yeah members themselves said that

@riharyantiyanti3975

Ай бұрын

Why this comment make me sad 😢

@s7960

Ай бұрын

They all are funny but ig he's the most loudest one & the member that cheers & supports everyone in the group, always giving them compliments and stuff

Sakura been an idol for 10 years, she has the most experience in that group and has consistently failed to improve

Hybe's priority is only to mass produce groups they only care about visuals and making money they don't care about talent at all and they don't even care about the criticism the groups face since the group members are the one getting hated on not really them

@nicoleloss7987

Ай бұрын

Txt and enhypen debute before hybe.

@nicoleloss7987

Ай бұрын

Hybe is not one company. Hybe is a multilabel corporation like cjenm and kakao. Hybe only responsibility is to supply resources, financial backing and music distribution. All labels under hybe work independently and are responsible for their own artists mangerment, promots, scheduling creative and music production. Pledis entertainment trainees their own artists. Bts txt and enhypen all debute before hybe. Koz entertainment trainee their own artists.

@vee.3029

Ай бұрын

​@juliana-cw2ot this sounds weirdly misogynistic that you only named men when fromis_9 and newjeans do have decent vocals

@_________dd

Ай бұрын

@@vee.3029 fromis9 and newjeans have decent vocals? lmao. They're as bad as lsf.

@Fearless.cat1209

Ай бұрын

​@@nicoleloss7987no enhypen debuted in Hybe. Only txt and bts debuted in Big Hit entertainment (before Hybe)

everyone has to admit that hybe label doesn’t have good vocalist to sing in live seventeen,bts,enhypen and txt are the only hybe groups that i haven’t hear bad vocals

@sanazamir8341

Ай бұрын

This

@Enhacoreee

Ай бұрын

REAL

@SpaceRain

Ай бұрын

And this is due in part to the fact that SVT wasn't even originally a Hybe group lol. BTS's vocals can also be fairly shaky live, but they do a hell of a lot better than a lot of other groups underneath them.

@sanazamir8341

Ай бұрын

@@SpaceRain really svt wasn't a part of hybe plus bts live vocals are pretty good you can't sound exactly like the studio version

@NobleSaintDGreat

Ай бұрын

what about JIN, is he a good vocalist?, having no solo (if there is, not impactful)...

Atp hybe is setting them up so bad🧍‍♀️

Again this is Coachella NOT inkigayo, Coachella is one of the biggest music festivals in the world. its known for live music not dancing. its an honor to Even perform there for a lot of artists. its a big deal for Kpop groups to even go in the first place up until now that was not even a thing for Kpop groups to even dream of. it a big opportunity and le sserafim was not ready for it. All the excuses does not fix the problem that they can't sing live at a major music festival. other Kpop groups performed at the same festival live and had hard choreography and still delivered. HYPE needs to give them vocal lessons not dancing lessons if they want to expand in the USA.

@Shifuu81

Ай бұрын

Nah. Coachella is not KNOWN for it's live vocals. It is known for it's PERFORMANCES. Over 100 acts perform every year there. You think all 100+ are "vocalists"? I have been to Coachella 9 times since 2009. I can assure you it is a venue where people prefer the performance and over all vibe the artist is giving over if they sounded exactly like their studio recording while live. Also, the crowd that was actually there.. yeah, they LOVED this particular performance. What appears to be happening, is K-POP stans are so used to being spoon fed performances on shows like Inkigayo, in which their fave groups use VERY loud backtracks and very weak live vocals, in order to be able to preform the insanely difficult choreography that goes with all the songs released in K-POP. Do K-POP fans REALLY think the VAST majority of K-POP idols all have the voices of Adele, Beyonce, Whitney, MJ and Bruno Mars?? Especially when knocking out intense choreo??

@motherhoodsbeauty9279

Ай бұрын

@@Shifuu81Kpop fans are crazy and delusional. They never been to Coachella but somehow act like they been to the concert a billions of times. I even wonder if they ever been to concert before the way they act.

@cookieeater0

Ай бұрын

@Shifuu81 sounds like a le sserafim problem not a kpop problem. Other kpop groups are not going to coachella unprepared. Only le sserafim is and if they can't sing live and dance live at the same time then why go. Give that opportunity to another artist. Ateez was at the same stage and did harder vocals and harder dances and I don't see anyone complaining about their performance. It's not a kpop problem it's a le sserafim problem. Again great the crowd was hype doesn't solve the problem that they cannot sing at a live major Festival. What's the point of having hard tough choreography moves if you can't sing when doing it. Hype should give them songs in their vocal range, gives them dances that they can do while singing. Again making excuses is not going to fix the problem.

@Shifuu81

Ай бұрын

@@cookieeater0 I will agree to disagree. Respect and love for you and your opinions.

@anagarza8326

Ай бұрын

OMG just people from the US make a big deal of Coachella. Who cares about the festival? I do agree that they need to train more

But let's be honest, nothing can justify le serrafim's vocal skills. They proved it too many times. And what is more dissapointing is that judging by members reactions they don't think of it as a problem and don't wish to improve. K-pop is going way down recently.

If you've been around since lsfms debut days then you'd know they used to lipsync in the beginning, and they got critisized for it but i think its completely fine to not sing live during ur rookie days, but when they started singing live it was so bad, Sakura has been bad at singing since her IZONE days and even she herself has acknowledged that. Not just her but the rest of the members also suck, They don't even try to hide the amount of autotune in their ACTUAL music that they release. And if you're saying "they performed 10 songs with hard choreographies" "the crowd enjoyed so why does it matter" "everyone was singing that way not just Isfm" "oh you just wanna criticize them cuz they're a gg" then those r just excuses, im not even going to compare them to blackpink and aespa rn but have you seen lesserafim singing on encore? or while just STANDING? and dont say its okay to sing badly if you have hard choreographies, literally every kpop group, bg or gg they all have hard choreos yet manage to sing flawlessly. Did you see ATEEZ at coachella? Yeah no i didn't think so. You people need to wake the hell up and realize that a SINGER needs to be able to SING, that is their entire job, but lsfm cant even do that while just standing. Even tho the crowd enjoyed their performance, I don't believe anyone could enjoy their singing (if you rational ofc). and im not even hating on lsfm im hating on hybe cuz its they're fault for not even providing proper vocal training to their groups. most of ILLIT cant sing either, ive seen only 2 members who can actually sing WHILE STANDING, im not even talking abt while dancing. Everyone saying "oh they sing better in high ranges/low ranges" Then the company should rlly focus on that and help them so they can sing better, but guess what, they don't. and why? for negative publicity because all publicity is good publicity. Hybe needs to stop debuting pretty faces (wether guys or girls) who cant actually sing, what im seeing recently is they're valuing looks over talent and as a result hurting these idols who just want to pursue their dreams. So firstly, wake up people and secondly get real with urself oh and If you have an issue with what im saying, that's your problem. edit: also go watch mamamoo performances, its sad to know that people nowadays would be surprised and think its "too much to ask for" for a idol to be able to sing properly while doing a hhard choreography they're not children, they signed up for this.

Why her statement is so arrogant? 💀this group needs to remember they are getting paid.

with Sakura... how is she still lacking in vocal ability? she has been an idol for such a long time even before Le Sserafim... i dont understand

I hope everything gets solved and everyone is happy, hopefully that happens though ❤

Oh god... stop spreading the Seunghan one. This kind of behavior is what led to his hiatus in the first place, ppl spreading rumors and then his private stuff. Even if you support him, engaging with rumors isn't helping. Don't escalate the situation anymore.

@irenesara455

Ай бұрын

True. Also other Riize members get the most ridiculous rumors and accusations over and over. I don't get it, why these content creators cover and spread these childish accusations. They're doing more damage this way

@hdypynitgof

Ай бұрын

@@irenesara455 Right? It's disgusting that they earn money out of stripping away idols' dignities

Haechan crying made me cry. Poor guy I hope he'll be ok.

Kpop won't be the same without Taeyong 😭... Wishing him a safe and speedy return

@xxblissxx_edits

Ай бұрын

yeah we lost an angel who is the pillar of nct and also he is an ace and multitalented 😭 i dont wanna wait till 2025 i want him back so much :(

that sm company needs to disappear forever or just need to change their methods towards their OWN idols. i do really think sometimes idols are their slaves. like FREE SEUNGHAN, he suffered lot already. you debut your idol just to remove them soon? or what kind of harsh treatment is that even. im BEYOND disappointed

@s7960

Ай бұрын

SM is literally the biggest joke in kpop, they'll send seunghan on hiatus for dating but they'll keep idols who've done weird things to girls & got caught in bad problematic scandals

Sakura in her delulu era. XC hope she'll take the constructive criticism and take vocal lessons

Le serrafim were not ready to play a big festival like Coachella, it was not the best stage for them, they did their best to put on a performance but the live vocals are not up to scratch and it showed

I have seen le sserafim performance and i have to say this unfortunately that none of the girls are ready. People are praising yunjin and chaewon but they lack too. I didn't understand why were they trying to thicken their voice in performance or are their voice in recording not theirs or completely autotunned. Yunjin is not ready for live be it Coachella or performance with max. I do understand live singing might be difficult with some choreos but to be honest thats why they practice for years isn't it? Also i feel disappointed with sakura's letter, i do understand they wanted audience to enjoy but didn't audience pay enough for them to deserve their best performance. Also having no vocal training or being called toned deaf might be hurtful but we have to agree audience do have some expectations from idols having experience specially sakura as she has been in the industry for 12 years😢. I like their songs but i will definitely not give my money and time to someone who is just here for fun and not taking their performance seriously 😢😢

@rhea776

Ай бұрын

I'm sorry but the way you ended your comment sounds like you're talking about a corporation.. Performing on stage is ABOUT having fun, engaging with the crowd, having charisma, stage presence etc. Yes they need to improve vocally but let's not talk like they're robots, at this point I feel like everyone's just joining the hate train bcz they're bored

@motherhoodsbeauty9279

Ай бұрын

When people go to concerts they go to have fun. They never go there to act like X-Factor judges. Tell me you have never been to a concert without telling me you have never been to a concert.

@ladycho7013

Ай бұрын

You're right. People come to concerts to have fun. Meanwhile, singers are assigned to sing on stage. Regardless of whether they (the singers) want to have fun or not, I think it's still their job to sing professionally. It just feels unfair, the audience pays to hear their beautiful voices but instead gets bad voices (after all the singer gets money right).

Fifty fifty will never be the same.

@therealgrimreaper68

Ай бұрын

It doesn't have to

IF SEUNGHAN LEAVES IMA GO KOREA AND LET HIM OUT OF THE BASEMENT MYSELF

HELLO ??? Can we talk about ATEEZ and how great they were..... It s so sad how the world focuses on negativity to attract attention rather than praising and talking about positive achievements

Why are they bringing 50/50 back? If it didn’t work out last time why bring it back? Idk man it’s weird

Its honestly embarrassing to watch lessarafim fans defend that performance. It was baaaaddd.

Bring seunghan back! Smoking and dating is not a crime. And all that happened during his pre debut days! 😭

this seunghan situation is seriously messed up, i wish SMent ACTUALLY cared about the well being and image of their artists. theyre acting like seunghan never existed, this isnt just bad for the group and its image but also because theyre giving up on a literal 20 year olds dream. imagine all the crazy training seunghan had to go through just to be completely erased. seunghan is such a good performer, just compare the ot7 stages to the ot6 ones, the ot6 ones are SO DRY. also the fact that this whole thing wasnt even seunghans fault?? like he got his privacy leaked, HE IS THE VICTIM?? why is HE the one getting attacked?? shame on you, SMent, i really hope this is just a baseless rumour and that SM will realize the groups true potential with seunghan. such a talented idol, what a shame theyre just giving up on him.

@VilmaMks

Ай бұрын

I kinda get what you say, but I can't ignore the shade towards the others when you know damn well it's not their fault SM decided to put him on hiatus. If you don't feel like supporting anymore, that's fine, they still have us. You can leave the fandom and trash SM all you want, it's normal to get angry but don't take it out on Shotaro, Eunseok, Sungchan, Wonbin, Sohee and Anton, they aren't the ones at fault in this whole mess.

@s7960

Ай бұрын

The main thing i dislike about the OT6 performances is the formation of the choreos, it doesn't seem equal bcuz there's always gonna be a member covered behind the rest, even though it's the only way to make the choreo look neat it still feels unfair to see one person not getting the spotlight during random parts

@butitsyouyouretheonethatiwant

Ай бұрын

@@VilmaMks i never said they were to trash, i still love and will always continue to support riize, with or without seunghan. this is my personal opinion, i am not trying to trash anyone but SM, i know the members are not to blame for this whole mess, the company is. think theres been a misunderstanding

@butitsyouyouretheonethatiwant

Ай бұрын

@@s7960 yes, this is what i meant when i said the performances looked "dry"

Sakura and her fans gaslighting us lol

@heyitsazr2115

Ай бұрын

Personally, I believe that they know their criticisms and can improve before next week's performance, which I bet they already took action. Kkura wrote that letter to experess her gratitude, acknowledged her imperfection, and is dedicated to improve. Her letter reflects her mature and resilient mindset, which is something good to embody and reinforces the core concept of le sserafim: self-confidence and strong will to move forward without being swayed by the world's gaze or judgement.

@motherhoodsbeauty9279

Ай бұрын

No, it's the other way around. Haters are the ones that gaslight Sakura fans.

@sensoine

Ай бұрын

They love being mediocre 😅😅😅

@sensoine

Ай бұрын

@@motherhoodsbeauty9279that’s already gaslighting 😂😂😂

Well I am no longer a fan of Riize. To do this is just dumb I wish SM would learn how to handle these situations better the kicking people out or making them want to leave. Seunghan I wish you all the best of luck in whatever it is you choose.

@VilmaMks

Ай бұрын

That's okay, they still have us.

I just want Seunghan back, I love SM's music but srsly, Seunghan doesn't deserve everthing that he went through and then he gets kicked out with the guilt of having hurt his group when all that actually happened was that some criminal out there leaked PERSONAL and PRIVATE information, so sm please bring back SEUNGHAN #bringbackseunghan

If seunghan goes away from this toxic ass industry ill be quite happy: he shouldn't even be on hiatus like come on..

Imma be honest. Companies should limit how much their idols are on social media because it's full of hate that can really affect an Idol's mental health

Lesserafim was really bad at Coachella. They should use the criticism to improve on their vocals.

@Keke12

Ай бұрын

Did you take the time to watch the whole performance or just clips trending? I saw the whole damn thing and they weren’t bad overall.

@motherhoodsbeauty9279

Ай бұрын

@@Keke12 Trying to educate a troll is like trying to educate a fish. These trolls would never listen to you.

@Keke12

Ай бұрын

@@motherhoodsbeauty9279 true

@sodabella

Ай бұрын

@@Keke12 i did. They were off pitch throughout their performance. Just because people are stating the truth you guys call them trolls LOL! Stop kissing hybe ass!

@Keke12

Ай бұрын

@@sodabella they weren’t off pitch throughout the WHOLE performance be for real drop the ego

Sakura was fine. It was Kazuha that was off key and couldn't sustain volume. Also, who ever was in charge of audio dropped the ball here. The in-person show was fine but the livestream had the live mic feed. Smoothing of audio is expected in performances (seriously everyone does this) and they must've forgotten to ensure the smoothed out version was also used in the live stream. Someone needs to be fired.

I think it’s wrong that Seunghan was put on hiatus, but then to kick him out of the group….its disgusting how he’s been treated by the company and netizens

Seunghan😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Fake news: Haechan was not crying. He was covering his eyes in frustration and he was not on Mark's shoulder, that was just the angle of the photo.

5:07 Ateezs have way harder choreography and sang live Jongho hit a high note for their last song 😐 they have no excuse

@AS-ec9ll

Ай бұрын

Kookielit has always had something against ateez for some reason, they never mention them like rn when they are the first kpop boy group to perform there, they’re lowkey an anti

I absolutely adore LE SSERAFIM but people are right.. their live vocals, while dancing, are severely lacking. They really need more training and should not have been on Coachella this early in their career. Also, any criticism does not automatically equal "hate". Some criticism is GOOD; otherwise people don't improve. What counts as "hate" is when people attack them personally on their socials and say things like "they have zero talent", "they shouldn't be an idol", etc.

i don’t think seunghan is gonna be kicked out??? he was supposed to comeback in january and was ready to comeback but something internally within the company couldn’t proceed with it

Honestly, Riize wouldn’t be the same without Seunghan but if that’s what’s best for him, I hope he leaves, he’s been through enough for NO fucking reason, it’s all thanks to the crazy and toxic K fans, he deserves and deserved better.

I think hybe should focus on training their groups on vocal lessons 😅

i understand if seunghan was put on hiatus to protect him because the hate was just so much and kept coming, but i need the promise that he’s going to come back. riize is seven in my heart and i will always count seven when i see them. please SM, bring seunghan back next comeback.

It makes me sad to say, even though I'm not a RIIZE fan, I won't be surprised if he's already silently kicked out..

Bruh hybe has millions if not millions in money but can8t afford to properly utilize amd train le serrafim

@ZP-xyza

Ай бұрын

I don’t think they care as long as they’re making money, the second LSF stop being popular those girls will be thrown in the trash. It’s all about money, so maybe that’s why they’re not putting money into them improving. They know as long as the music is good the girls don’t need good live vocals.

The K-NETZ ruined SEUNGHAN'S dream for having a girlfriend before debut is wild. I mean SEUNGHAN is really good looking why would he not have a girlfriend. SEUNGHAN was excited to go to MAMA but ya'll ruined it for him. Instead of worrying about someone's private life worry about literal children debuting and getting s*xulized in the industry

Hopefully the rumors are not true and Seunghan comes back and if he doesn’t comeback to RIIZE, I hope he will be able to debut as a soloist.🙏

If seunghan goes I will only ever watch or listen to Riize through third party streams. I will make SURE that SM doesn’t receive one dime from me.

@olivesareoliver

Ай бұрын

Honestly, I won't even do that. Their songs slap but every time I'd hear GAG, all I'd think of is Seunghan and it disgusts me how someone could do such a thing. I actually haven't listened to riize since November, so I don't even know what love 119 sounds like (and I won't ever unless they bring Seunghan back)

@Bella99-gm2iu

Ай бұрын

Girl nobody cares. We're still gonna watch them

@Bella99-gm2iu

Ай бұрын

​@@olivesareoliver seems like a toxic fan

@olivesareoliver

Ай бұрын

@@Bella99-gm2iu it's not a flex to still watch them through all of this, but ok ig. And how tf am I a toxic fan 💀

@Bella99-gm2iu

Ай бұрын

@@olivesareoliver "I won't ever watch them until seunghan comes back"

I don't stan Lesserafim but the criticism of sakura is important topic.i think she has damaged her voice very much and even if she wants to improve its impossible for her.As she has a 10 years idol journey then why didnt she improve? Its because its not possible for her to improve.Her voice is damaged.

BRUH I HATE SM SO MUCH

THEY BETTER BRING SEUNGHAN BACK 😭😭😭😭😭 IM CANT IMAGINE RIIZE WITHOUT SEUNGHAN ………😭😭😭😩 BRING HIM BACK NOW I DONT WANT TO SEE MY SIS GETTING SAD EVERYDAYYYYY 😔

So, what about the praises for Ateez at Coachella? They were AWESOME and live ;)

They were originally a 6 member group, so maybe they needed a 6th member so they could have split the parts up evenly and have more rest when dancing rigorously

Kookielit has always had something against ateez for some reason, they never mention them like rn when they are the first kpop boy group to perform there, they’re lowkey an anti

I can’t believe it’s happening again. My ult bias in my ult group leaving. First it was Luhan and now it’s potentially going to be Seunghan..I can’t do this shit anymore

Bruhh 127 are the sweetest♡