The witness is either incompetent at his job or he knows exactly what happened the day of the incident and he’s trying to dodge the questions that comes close to the truth .

@lunikondonga5004

2 жыл бұрын

True that hey his hiding something

@thobanichiliza934

2 жыл бұрын

He's completely incompetent and he knows exactly what happened and he's sticking to the script

@takalaniterencekhakhu3489

2 жыл бұрын

This witness only accounts to what he did. Not what any other person done. Not even the hearsay that the defense wants to drag him to. Obtaining exhibit and sending them to lab is what he knows

@thabomofokeng4375

2 жыл бұрын

He is running away from what he ommited to do. It's not a matter of normality or usually here, it is what he was supposed to.

@mncwaben

2 жыл бұрын

He knows the truth my brother

When Teffo asked Mosia whether the state of the scene supports the allegations of the alleged fighting the happened in the kitchen, he answered yes. When he was asked why he said the hat and the walking stick were at unlikely places(where they shouldn’t be). This means that he knew that the crutch was used in the fight therefore he should’ve taken it for testing. He deliberately left it. Teffo should’ve used this to prove how incompetent Mosia is to leave obvious potentialy helpful evidence meaning he could’ve left other evidence. We can no say that he could’ve left other evidence because of his incompetence

@Rican_ZA

2 жыл бұрын

You are right but Mosia keeps saying he left it because they told him it belonged to someone who was there unlike the hat The question should be why was it not with the owner or how it ended up on the scene

@clivemahlangu3506

2 жыл бұрын

True dat

@qhaweqhawe5605

10 ай бұрын

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

@qhaweqhawe5605

10 ай бұрын

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

Wow and they did arrest him? 🥺R u aware that Advocate Teffo is doing this case for free. Wow what a gentleman?

This shows how bad ANC corruption is and how dangerous the ANC has become in this society

@phumlanichristophermkhwana3367

2 жыл бұрын

ANC this ANC that🙄 even the floods in KZN, people like yourself blame the ANC 🥱

This court case is for the entire South Africans including Senzoz family, the accused and whole panel in the court to exactly understand what was Mr Mosias intervention when he came to the scene. This man can't answer Teffos questions correctly. He is all over the place. In his explanations he keeps on saying I think, I think,...I'm confused. He is struggling to express himself in English. This Forensic officer is a liability. I doubt very much that this man knows that we have lost a soul here. It is clear that the judge is very negative towards adv Teffo. We are not kids. 😨😨 The crime scene was tempered when this ignorant Mosia got there. We want to know the master mind behind the killing of Senzo PERIOD. 😨😨

@lesegoyv

2 жыл бұрын

As long as Teffo finds it fit to ask the right questions to the wrong witnesses then we won't find the mastermind anytime soon. He wants to bombard witness 1 of 46 with all the questions, what is he going to ask those other 45 witnesses? Mosia answered all Teffo's questions in English which they both aren't perfect in, Teffo the most qualified said the kids cannot not be alive at midnight instead of awake 🤣 during the people. Anyways the problem is Teffo wants to say Sergeant is lying without saying so. If he was called 4 hours later and was briefed by Ndlovu that's his story. Teffo should just push for Ndlovu to stand on the box so he can pose all his concerns and facts to. If he knows that the family was not at the crime scene and that those he mentioned planned the whole thing then he should bring forth his witnesses and not waste state resources or expect Mosia to answer things that happen before he was callled, he cannot confirm nor deny that the whole thing was staged, he said he took what he took and that's it. If Teffo knows that the gunshot was heard 7pm and not around 8pm then his directing the question to the wrong witness. To mix up cap and hat knowing well there had never been a mentioned of a cap was just wasting time. If the DNA on the hat was of a female that proves nothing because the house was occupied by women anyway, it still doesn't prove anything. I hope he will come better and not trying to grill witness 1 even when he said he found other police officers plus Ndlovu there 1st. Anyways this is just my take on this.

@takalaniterencekhakhu3489

2 жыл бұрын

Point missing,. The guy was called at 23h45 and the incident happened around 19h00. So he can't answer for the things that he was not present so yes he is right to say I think. And anything happens after he left the scene. His duties was to collect the exhibit

@BrotherM1978

2 жыл бұрын

Tefo needs to be taught the differences between the different role players(witnesses)at a crime scene. That way he will see that his questions are depriving the court to do its work. He lacks understanding of court processes.

@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesegoyv I think the advocate wants to prove incompetence or deliberation throughout the actions of the witness on the event; and it's very telling that this one is hiding something, and he's only trying to crack him.

This shows that we need new young qualified forensic graduates to be trained for such cases, this thing of using former police as forensic is just bad for the country

I wonder why the state does this, it seems someone else who is not in the court gives instructions to the state and they are forced to act unethically

Nna I want to know why and how the 5 people were found and why accused 3 said this was planned on the documentary. This case is becoming complicated and its sad for the Meyiwa family.

I wish I had clarity of whether the fragmented projectile that was found behind the glass jars on the kitchen granite top is the same projectile that made a hole on the clay tile. If it’s the same projectile then it wouldn’t make sense why a hitman would remove the projectile from the floor tile and throw it behind glass jars at the scene instead of taking it with him . secondly if it’s a different projectile that made a hole on the floor and the one that that was found behind glass jars on the table then this means that we can say that there were three shots that were fired the one that killed Senzo the one with the projectile behind the glass jars and the one that left a hole on the floor . Neighbours heard less thn 3 shots which makes me assume that when the scene was being tempered with a silencer was put on the gun and the misleading shots were made.

The judge and the prosecutor though... I HOPE JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED. And I pray for Adv Teffo.

@nandethegamer6505

2 жыл бұрын

He's making me sick

@laantsino1394

2 жыл бұрын

If the accused were in the house when the killing happened, surely if they’re not guilty they’d have come forth and help the state. Surely,they too are hiding something. You can’t expect “JUSTICE TO BE SERVED” when you’re not prepared to assist in that regard.

@JenniferN55

2 жыл бұрын

@@laantsino1394 that's why a trail exist. And JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED for aslong as no corruption is at hand.

@laantsino1394

2 жыл бұрын

@@JenniferN55 They could as well have saved everyone else time for trial by CONFESSING. It’s not a must that all matters must go for trial. Confess, or simply become a state witness.

@JenniferN55

2 жыл бұрын

@@laantsino1394 But the 5 accused are denying, stating they don't know why they are arrested so trail is necessary for them. Unless you are referring to the eye witnesses in that house, then yes they should be cooperative. But clearly there are deep reasons why people are quiet. And the arrest of Teffo just confirms that something ain't right.

Translator is unnecessary for us youtube viewers, it just takes our time and data

@GoodmanMthiyane-kh8zm

27 күн бұрын

You wrong,this case is not about KZreadrs but the accused.thats why you got 5 likes😂

Innocent until proven guilty and I believe that the 5 men are innocent I hope justice is served

@michellemdebuka19

2 жыл бұрын

Me too.

Should they not arrest the people who were in the house for tempering with the crime scene

@ironhitz

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my surprise that the expert witness even see nothing wrong with this?

@daisymatthews4372

2 жыл бұрын

@@ironhitz the real criminals are being protected

@mandisanhlanhla3107

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the thing the is no evidence that the scene was tempered with or not.

This Mosia guy is very evasive. I can see what Adv Teffo is doing…he’s building a case of reasonable doubt. The witness is either a bad cop or he’s not completely forthcoming with his answers.

@LM-rg9lj

2 жыл бұрын

chief, u don't get da game Sgt. Mosia playing..he's acting, do u get it?

They arrested him cause he is getting somewhere with his questions,sadly for him

@BrotherM1978

2 жыл бұрын

😆 🤣 😂

@vincentmthethwa4291

2 жыл бұрын

Axactly he ws hitting the ground, he had a direction for surr

Mosia is just struggling to answer questions 😩

It's seems as adv Tefu knows lots of information which we don't know in this case 🤔 you can hear the way he is asking the witness that he know the truth

@juliankobane7822

2 жыл бұрын

Even if he knows if you can prove it then what is the use,

Tefo is out of order period ...right question wrong person...

@krishnareddy4423

2 жыл бұрын

A crime scene includes everyone and everything.Tampering of a crime scene is highly probable to lead investigators up the wrong path.why should he return later,complete your task during your first visit.The witness is being treated with kids gloves by the presiding judge.

I find the prosecution incompetent actually the state. The first people to receive calls regarding the crime scene and the people who arrived on crime scene along with the people whom were within the crime scene should be crossed examined again and notes should be reconsidered for surely different investigation teams were appointed yet some of the findings by some of the investigation teams are excluded, why? It is obvious that the case is involved by powerful, well connected individuals whom takes advantage of their power and compromise the case as whole. The judge must be fair, give each representative a chance to unfold their findings regardless, yes there are proceedings of submitting any evidence before the jurisdiction but how would one come forward when already there are threats because the only way to do so is to do it before the public eye along with jurisdiction of the case for this trials affected the nation as a whole. The arrest of teffo is also one indicator showing influence of individuals in higher position, a warrant of arrest of which is more that 6 months being issued yet no action was taken by the person who requested it. why now and why in the middle of court proceedings of such case that is highly awaited for so many years? As for the minister of police LOL trying by all means to not answer yet all videos circulating clearly shows that the arrest was not conducted in the correct manner, teffo needs to sue the state. Another thing, why postpone a whole month for a case that was pending for the last 8 years, i sense foul play and the prosecution is involved.

Advocate was about to expose these corrupt police

@ummelikayiselindani2314

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This is interesting

i dont see this case coming to am end , its another netfllix series ,

But state also make defence lawyers to always find hard time

Wow high ranking officials had a meeting at the crime scene...This is contamination of the crime scene. That's y it took so long to bring this case to court. Interesting they called a cop who was on sick leave. Something don't add up here. He can't answer yes or no, he likes stupid paragraphs

@sharltonmaswanganyi5092

2 жыл бұрын

You do not forget the truth but you forget a lie

This is confusing, so if there was only 5 people in the house,doest this mean that Longwe ran out and never come back?

How do you secure a scene not to be tempered with after 4 hours??

Kwaze kwanzima esata webakwethu 😳😟 what in the mafia is going on. Also this interpreter 😳

Can someone tell this guy to stop thinking 🤔 "Mr I THINK"

Mosia knows the evidence was tempered with and he ignored what he was told to ignore. (Allegedly, 🙈before I get sued ).

Where did this judge train?

Adv Teffo is going to South n he goes to East. The question was, "Did you showed Mr Ndlovu the evidence or objects you've collected when you leave since you said Ndlove was outside?" And Mr Mosia decided to go Eas, n it didn't sit well with Adv Teffo.

if the house where Senzo was clearned then the whole case is farbricated.

Ayi this Judge!?

The interpreter is very bad in isiZulu.

@noluthandomasondo

2 жыл бұрын

tell me about it.

@azintanjana833

2 жыл бұрын

I think he's more Swati than Zulu

@khulekanimxolisi382

2 жыл бұрын

He mixed Zulu and Ndebele

@sthokozomsomi2691

2 жыл бұрын

Ayi ayi ayi.... Uya dilute

@ironhitz

2 жыл бұрын

Take this mf out. He is pouting and doing all kinds of stupid faces.

The judge is right most of the questions put to the witness are irrelevant to the witness, Teffo needs to focus on the evidence collected, who tempered with a scene, who had a meeting with who, how does it relate to this man, he needs to adk relevant questions to relevant witnesses, I know ppl think the judge is harsh but honestly Teffo needs to focus on forensic material and evidence, so what can this witness do if the scene was tempered with

This is really sad, who killed this talent black man. We need to stop killing each other. I will pray for both parties. Thus us sad

Judge seems biased

The witness is lying under oath😱 the jokes write themselves

@welcomezulu7510

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know he's lying?

SABC NEWS can you lease give us something new am tired of Senzo Meyiwa's case njalo nje haibo saze savelelwa

Judge who are communicating with? I'm worried? I never saw judge with cell phone during court proceedings yaaaa I gree o problem shame 😂😂😂 I want to take you to legends for haircut, thlogo e o e thloka Moya o nxwele 🤣🤣🤣

Eyi this interpreter 😒😒😒.. the person who is paying to kill this case must be Rich .. when ever does misters and mayors rush to crime scenes … it took them over 2 days to visit KZN for floods but rush to a murder scene 😂😂😂this is joke

@silikay4392

2 жыл бұрын

Chicco

@bongumusasibonele6542

2 жыл бұрын

Bheki Cele and his crew are really heartless and there are the condoctor of all this we see

I see the prosecutor and judge are not happy or ready to see these 4 guys excluded from this case. Just wonder what exactly they know about it???

@ludacrees

2 жыл бұрын

Have you forgot that a Judge in Randfontein was almost killed? Have you forgot an investigator was gunned down in Western Cape when he was uncovering a serious crime? Have you forgot a woman who was a whistle blower was killed in relation to a serious crime of corruption?

@ludacrees

2 жыл бұрын

Well for now let's give the Judge a benefit of a doubt but as for the others you are correct, it's what I have been saying.

The judge is even asking questions for Adv Teffo.🤣🤣🤣 Heban

We need that Judge for Bloody Rose case

@masonmathebula5883

2 жыл бұрын

He passed away

@Topnews101

2 жыл бұрын

It was a lady😂

This man the "forensic" Expert should not have been at court. This day was a waste then.

But are these 2 gentlemen real lawyers? This is unbelievable 😳

@krishnareddy4423

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, let the lawyers speak in Isizulu then you would see the true might of Teffo.

I don't see Adv Teffo winning this case.

The Judge does not like Tefo, he can't even pretend. It's like their enemosity comes from far away.

@rinaemukumela3038

2 жыл бұрын

its not about liking ,Tefo can win this case even if he follow procedures

@JenniferN55

2 жыл бұрын

@@rinaemukumela3038 It is definitely about liking. The way he addresses him and sometimes tries to ridicule him.

@lesegoyv

2 жыл бұрын

@@rinaemukumela3038 Thank you Rinae

@cyliamotsoenengzengele

2 жыл бұрын

@@rinaemukumela3038 they are dealing with his mentality, he can't win if his mind is disturbed.

@lesegoyv

2 жыл бұрын

@@JenniferN55 I guess it goes both ways, but I don't think there are feelings involved, I think Teffo likes arguing with the judge more. Even Mshololo stopped him last Friday. Teffo has been ridiculing Mr Mosia to a point of telling him things and expecting him to agree to them.

The subtitles are just dodgy like this trial

Now i know why Teffo is in prison,he messed with the wrong people,the Untouchables

I was shocked yesterday that the State Advocate did not object. Neither the State Advocate nor Tefo are doing their jobs properly. It is shocking. There can be no justice if rules aren't followed. They are making a mockery of this trial especially Tefo, he has no respect for the rules.

@lesegoyv

2 жыл бұрын

In agreement, it's clear Teffo is securing his bag

@ironhitz

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesegoyv No he is doing for free. There is a documentary on that ...kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4ausLRpls7KfrA.html Just don't comment if you r not sure what to say.

I think Teffo is not asking serious questions relevant to the witness. I mean we want to know how this man collected and protected the evidence to avoid contamination.

@hosiamahlatsi3340

2 жыл бұрын

What you are missing is that how do you avoid contamination of the evidence which has already been tampered with? Arrived at the scene 5 hours later, a lot could have been done.

@ironhitz

2 жыл бұрын

Which case are you watching 🤣 You are clearly biased like the judge. The witness missed a lot of important questions he should be an expert in.

@lebosekele9937

2 жыл бұрын

Correct Hosia I was expecting Teffo to pin the witness down on that. I mean y didn't Teffo ask the witness that if whoever called the witness to the scene couldn't give an address how did himself get to the crime scene? He must demonstrate that he was deliberately late to the crime scene

@ironhitz

2 жыл бұрын

@@lebosekele9937 The cop said he went to the police station to get the location

@lebosekele9937

2 жыл бұрын

Y? When Ndlovu (investigator) was already at the crime scene? Don't you think a reasonable man would have asked the investigator to send a location

The state prosecutor is too concerned with how the accused lawyer handles questions to his witness. The judge allowed him to waist all this time on his lecture. The initial handling of the scene, evidence and procedure were not done expertly as the witness purports. It is evident the states case is full of holes introduced by handling of evidence, witnesses and the crime scene itself. Y would a forensic investigator not be concerned that the witnesses messed up the scene by transporting the victim to the hospital. Y is he not worried that all the way to the hospital nobody called the cops until the scene was messed up. Y will he think for them that they were concerned about the life of the victim. I find it strange that he becomes a clear expert when determining his position on this aspect (He is now an angel/sympathiser not a forensic investigation)but don't know the number of bullets on the scene. Mxm. Don't you find it strange that he is didn't see anything wrong with the transportation of the victim before the EMS and police arrived? "I think the life of a person is more important than preservation of a crime scene" an expert of 19 years saying this is pathetic. You have to remove yo feelings when dealing with these things and want to claim you are a professional. The states case is full of holes. Don't let your love for Senzo Meyiwa blind u to the fact that the cops and the people at the scene messed up the scene and evidence. It is very clear there are some people who were not questioned/investigated.

@ronewarm1450

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for summary

What a circus

Circus!

the only intruder is Longwe thwala and was not invaited he bossed himself in or is possible that he left his freinds outside.the police should have taken all the pple there for questioning they didnt',why longwe was left behind,the police living working stick is a big problem because you dont leave anything you find on the crime cine that was very wrong because that has fingerprint for the person who fort with Senzo,time arrive on crime cine is a disaster4hrs

Yhoo hayi le Forensic officer imathile man yhuu🤣🤣🤣

All the judge needs to say to an objection is "sustained" or "Over ruled" and all lawyers/advocates should know what that means and should respect the decision!!!!

The judge show favourism, its like he is the lawyer of the witness.

@krishnareddy4423

2 жыл бұрын

I agree.

Teffo is just a disappoint to law students... he should focus on what is important regarding forensic. His asking for his opinion without using evidence. If Teffo did not look old one would conclude he just came out of law school.

Teffo my man

How is so wish Advocate Nel could take charge and carry on with this because it's clear that Advoc Teffo was hitting the nerve.. sekusele kancane

@silikay4392

2 жыл бұрын

Nel is against these 5 accused people. He believes they were involved in the commission of the crime. He's siding with the state.

@king7324

2 жыл бұрын

@@silikay4392 that's the sad part hey.. I feel like this won't end well...I hope the defense team will carry on with the work..

@lesegoyv

2 жыл бұрын

@@silikay4392 true but all he want to know is the mastermind which is what the enter country and Meyiwa family wants.

@silikay4392

2 жыл бұрын

@@king7324 Teffo & his defence team knows a lot. They can really crack this case. But sadly their attempt at unravelling the truth wont see the light of day in court. High ranking officials who occupy prominent positions in the police service are protecting real perpetrators.

@khanyisanimngadi8955

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesegoyv no that's not what the country wants we want the real killer there's no mastermind here they all know who killed Meyiwa

This is high court, one would expect a certain level of professionalism and competence. This adv needs to be fired by the judge and prosecutor. A new and competent advocate should be hired for these guys. These guys are not represented at all. This is mockery to the justice system

Adv Teffo arrested at court what drama

@nandethegamer6505

2 жыл бұрын

Why what happened??Heeee they are doing their best to silence him..They know very well that he's gonna get to the bottom of this.

@Zuks758

2 жыл бұрын

Too sad 😔 how I so wish Adv Teffo sue all of them( especially this Baloyi & judge)

The judge and the state yhooo

The state prosecutor is not paying attention when his witness is messing up...This guy said cap at 2:32:06 Don't sleep on Adv Teffo.

2:25:00 I'm fine with English because "my work is WITH English" yah neh!!!!

@simphiwemkhize9475

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

I can't the zulu is on a other level

asha amadamu anamanzi!

iqala noma icala?

@ihlathi123

2 жыл бұрын

Icala

Haibo uMy Lord has his phone on

JUdge is wrong. He want to ask the witness a question pertaining to his evidence collection. He need to lay the foundation for his question. The prosecutor is leading the witness

I almost want a lawyer from the USA to come and take this case. Our people will fail OUR own people. Shocking!

@palesamcophela6142

2 жыл бұрын

SA has a different system. Our "lawyers" cannot act and behave like the Americans do

Mafia state

rubbish, now Adv Teffo is arrested.

@khulekanimxolisi382

2 жыл бұрын

He was putting more salt on wound and he was abt to dig deeper the truth

@leratomataba9212

2 жыл бұрын

Someone is being protected here! The person is highly connected.

@manthepanamashangoane2760

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently Adv. Teffo was a police officer for 17 years. I believe if the police were to hide something he would know how it’s done. Hence he is a threat to the police in question.

"I think" yhuuuuu! 😑🚮

Advo Teffo doesn't know how to pressure a witness err 😪 he is emotional he must give the evidence to someone else to head this thing.

I feel sorry for these witnesses, cause now they are expected to remember an incident that happened 8 years ago.

@lesegoyv

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that, they are also forced to agree to things asked 5 different ways then ends up being confused. Teffo himself is confused, he said the 5 adults and the kids slept at Thwala's house jiki jiki he comes back and say Senzo's apartment. His eager to bring "the big boys" down but very impatient at it. He should wait for other 45 witnesses and ask them questions directed to them cause Mosia cannot answer for everyone.

Interpreter is not doing his job here!

@thobanichiliza934

2 жыл бұрын

Who is he translating for?

@ummelikayiselindani2314

2 жыл бұрын

utolika isiGoli 😂

This "Zulu" interpreter must excuse us no no no he's pap

@mthokongubane8123

2 жыл бұрын

Akusiye futhi nguMzulu lona

@bonganidlomo9562

2 жыл бұрын

Ngathi umNdebele

@nomalungelodube9455

2 жыл бұрын

His attitude kills me🤣🤣🤣🤣he's feeling himself

@peterjayanduna789

2 жыл бұрын

Ngushona wasemozambiq

@sthokozomsomi2691

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterjayanduna789 🤣

The police officer seems to be having a problem with speaking english

“You were trying, we saw, and you didn’t succeed”

This so called forensics expert thinks too much and doesn't know to much...

Court case seems like there's no structure. Child's play yet, this is meant to be a serious case. U guys are a joke

Baloyi and maumela mst be arrested 4 defeating the end of justice

Obvious

This witness 🤡🤡🤡.

SENZO MEYIWA was playing for South Africa and killed by South African...question is why?

@ntombiendlovu9392

2 жыл бұрын

South Africans don't kill South Africans?

@tagessedabero4035

2 жыл бұрын

@@ntombiendlovu9392 human being must not killed by anyone

@lindiwepenoshinge6840

2 жыл бұрын

You where expecting people from which country🙄🙄🙄🙄

hahahahah I really dont know why you doing this.. Tefo ahahahahha

This happens when you put nobodies in high offices

@molatelofelix7084

2 жыл бұрын

@@lifewithhumbu4210 really

@molatelofelix7084

2 жыл бұрын

@@CbosEasyRecipes7 you go into an office looking for assistance and when you leave, you feel hopeless, you feel betrayed, it's like there is nobody in that office yet there is this big fellow.

@molatelofelix7084

2 жыл бұрын

@@CbosEasyRecipes7 I believe each one of us has his or her performance standards. When you leave your house for a celebration, you want to look in a particular way, you dance in a particular way, you do things your way. Those are standards set by you, for yourself. Government has standards, companies have standards. They all start from standards set by you in an interview.

@molatelofelix7084

2 жыл бұрын

@@CbosEasyRecipes7 it's important for us to know whats happening in the country bcos we will end up making same mistakes. Ramaphosa is trying his best against a lot of people. He has two hot balls, ANC and the country. Both are on the edge. Anything can happen at any time but because he is sure by a few wonderful people, we are surviving. Advocate arrested in court. Police don't respect justice. It's scary. But I have hope that we will make it against all this mess.