This Judge is very professional, fair and transparent. His simple fluent English at his age as well maintains his integrity. Keep up your independence Judge

@sabeloshabane6433

2 жыл бұрын

Education is very important I heard them talking judge and Baloyi they fluent in English they just playing it 👌

Imagine being told you're lying in 3 languages 😂

@ronelkotze

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@nathimdlalose6317

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@007Awww

2 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂

@thetalkwithmthakazi2494

2 жыл бұрын

I need them to tell him in isxhosa those clicks will send him to ICU imagine UYAXOKA😭😭

@madintlemojaki1019

2 жыл бұрын

O stout wena man🤣🤣

It's the Judge for me, I think he is very fair and considerate to all parties involved

@Mpongz

2 жыл бұрын

At first I didn’t like him but now I do get him.

@zvazvazva1270

2 жыл бұрын

Adv Teffo was right. He tried to make sure that the matter of the 2 dockets needed to be sorted. The rest of the Advts knew this

@letsoalolambert8679

2 жыл бұрын

Complex case

@ntombomzirasmeni314

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mpongz wwwe

@moleofane1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mpongzwhat

Advocate Mshololo you are so brilliant and smart do you know that we as a country we so wish to have people like you in our beloved country whereby even policemen have tends to be criminals themselves helping croaks to rule the country in favour of the mighty millionaires we have in the country not forgetting you Mr Teffo you guys you were spot on i gave you a Bell✊✊✊

@maxwelmudzingwa8764

2 жыл бұрын

agree with yu

@andilesthole4813

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

@ThabethGumbo

2 жыл бұрын

Mshololo to the world 🤗

@nomarussia5085

2 жыл бұрын

Black excellence in motion...

@khanyisomasango9147

2 жыл бұрын

Aphinde abemuhle🤗

American here, watching thanks to the Senzo doc on Netflix, praying he gets justice. Is it normal in South African trials for the same witness to be questioned for so many days? Never seen anything like it here, must be exhausting for the cop! I guess this trial will take many months to complete.

@ThuleM

2 жыл бұрын

If it's a high profile case then yes, it is normal. Remember, more than one arrest had been made hence they are being very thorough with the proceedings.

@benjamintlaka2175

2 жыл бұрын

By September the case will be climaxing.... Just follow

@murphymusa7548

2 жыл бұрын

Only higher profile case like this yes u have to witness what u know

@nazahewu9829

2 жыл бұрын

Actually every case is unique the status of the case will be determined by the nature of the offence the evidence, the exhibits and the number of the accused and fortunately this is not a normal case but a corruption and cover up to the highest power using tax payers 💸to do dirty work welcome to 🇿🇦

@xolaninko

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on the the amount of evidence that a witness is delivering

big up Adv Mshololo because of you we are going to find the truth SISTER

Adv Teffo asked for the same thing.... If there are two dockets, it means the rights of the accused have been violated that's why he applied for a trial within a trial... Why was his application denied whereas that of Adv. Mshololo was agreed upon?

@thembisaxhanti1298

2 жыл бұрын

Because Tefo doesn't have timing his all over the place and end up his points not heard. Mshololo is exactly on point now she is using exhibit D Mosia statement from 2019 case correctly perfect timing

@nokukhanyanonjabulomambhel9239

2 жыл бұрын

Mayb it is because Mshololo is bringing evidence on the table.

@thembisaxhanti1298

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the state took those statements from the 2019 case as their evidence now Mshololo is digging deep that the statements came from the 2019 case that the state did not disclose at the beginning of this case.

@thabisopule5359

2 жыл бұрын

Teffo , was all over, mshololo was not hasty , he packed it nicely and went deep on those statements.

@zvazvazva1270

2 жыл бұрын

Correct

Adv Msholol but you shot down Adv Teffo when he said this case wont go further until the two cases are working in conjuctions... please work together with each other because the celebrity contest wont get you anywhere.

@tinasherufurwadzo6320

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a contest and survival of the fittest. However, advocate Mshololo has been talking about accused 1-5 and being inclusive.

@busisiweleigh-anne7067

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@tinahatina3103

2 жыл бұрын

True. She wants to be the star

@seantowanda8702

2 жыл бұрын

Do you guys not get that advocate musholo was not aware of the second docket only advocate teffo was privy to that knowledge

@tinnyntshili8009

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

Mshololo I love you. You are too intelligent

This case would have been finished long time ago,should all the people who were in the house where taken for questioning.

I LIKE ADV MSHOLOLO BUT NOW SHE IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL. SHE HAS FACTS BUT HER TONE HAS A SENSE OF DISRESPECT AND ARROGANCE

@benjamintlaka2175

2 жыл бұрын

Trust me... she's doing this to break the witness. And worse she's for the defence... LLB. Mosia will break

@portiankambule4393

2 жыл бұрын

I remember when she pointed out that whatever that Mr Mosia said was nonsensical and the Judge had to review what she just said.

Mshololo,Teffo and the judge keep it up doing great job for South Africa salute you .

What a fair judge 👨‍⚖️ thumbs up 👍

The Tshwana translator is on fire...

@agnesmkhuzangwe7308

2 жыл бұрын

Ke Sesotho

All those that plated a role in this cover up ,starting with Ndlovu whom I suspect that he is not late until a proof from the home affairs plus his grave are put to the fore,top policemen including the minister whom we hear that he visited the Meyiwa household and disclosed to them that they know who killed Senzo and mentioned the name bt allowed the state to go further with the case of 5 that are in court now,ignoring the other docket that intended to arrest the ppl in the house,Bheki Cele is not immune to what happened here,he also played a role in defeating the ends of justice.

@ulistarforlife2170

2 жыл бұрын

You really think Brigadier Ndlovu is alive?

@sabeloshabane6433

2 жыл бұрын

@@ulistarforlife2170 there's no proof that he passed away 😳

i feel sorry for mr mosia now

@timmychokoe1649

2 жыл бұрын

We think to be a police officer is easier bottom line is to b police officer is very difficult 😢 mr mosia o bona mathata blind

I just want to know what will happen if those 5 suspects found not guilty? What about the time they spend in jail ?

@lucymthembu7021

2 жыл бұрын

They will sue the State and be paid

The lady Advocate knows her job

Advocate Zandile Mshololo 100% sisi i like your spirit.

@mcteknologies8634

2 жыл бұрын

After this case she will be very busy .I see too many clients phoning

@sbusisontinda9892

2 жыл бұрын

Serious?

@timmychokoe1649

2 жыл бұрын

😍😍😍 adv moshololo she is the best😎

I feel like the jugde has favouritism via teffo and zandile ...he alwsys agree whst ever zandile needs ...he denied postpone to teffo but agree to mshololo

@thandothabethe3465

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with u

@ThuleM

2 жыл бұрын

I think he just hates Teffo's delivery.

@Bridge_M

2 жыл бұрын

true

@sabeloshabane6433

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThuleM teffo will wrap them all in two questions plus his eyewitness 😅😅

@ThuleM

2 жыл бұрын

@@sabeloshabane6433 Advocate Teffo is brilliant but he lacks EQ, that's why the Judge has an issue with him.

Mr Mosia must not die please, I don't know what is wrong with him but I hope he gets better 🙏 he's very important to this case.

@Kasiboys123

2 жыл бұрын

Wish him quickiest recovery

@moleofane1

2 жыл бұрын

Mr Misia has a bad back problem. He has not driven for 2 years. He had an operation few times. I heard him tell Adv Teffo during the break.😀

@securityrcc9736

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Advocate Teffo is far ahead of his critics in this trial.🤞🏽🤞🏽

@zvazvazva1270

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@doctorphala9554

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

Mosia will resign lam telling you with emidiate effect

Interpreters are also doing their best 👏

@sabeloshabane6433

2 жыл бұрын

Highly recommend

Knowledge & wisdom from the Judge 👌🏽

Mshololo and tteff be careful with this period please.

If Mosia doesn't get high blood from this trial I don't know

@thandiemaswanganyi4118

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@Kasiboys123

2 жыл бұрын

He will stroke

@thabitshidi739

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@libokabi507

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@sbusisontinda9892

2 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

At first I had some reservations abt the Judge bt he seems to be teaching us something abt being a judge,I am still learning from him.

@sindisondou8768

2 жыл бұрын

Pcoo

if I was Mosia I was gonna faint or pretend that im sick every day 😂😂😂

@yayaacombi6224

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@brianncube3365

2 жыл бұрын

Really, why 😂😂😂?

@sammysam3855

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@pertuniamaphanga550

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@pertuniamaphanga550

2 жыл бұрын

It's hot 🔥 fire fire 🔥

The state knows that by creating two dockets and charge first scapegoats and then they get acquitted the law does not allow them to charge and Kelly and others on the other docket. Case closed according to NPA.

I'm not happy with the quality of cross examining, but in all fairness, the 'expert' witness is being thrown under the BUS and some questions are beyond him.

Mshololo has exposed a lot of wrong doing, and they should have listened to Teffo

@thembsy8618

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

@Bridge_M

2 жыл бұрын

true

@sabeloshabane6433

2 жыл бұрын

Teffo don't take long is too fast he can end this case in one day but mshololo takes too long she wants all funny things degrees diploma you will see how he's going ask Mosia he'll be sick watch 😅😅

UMshololo lo abamaziyo abazange bambone 🎤 🎹 🎶

8 years later and Mosia is not prepared for this trial...absolutely pathetic to say the least.

@agnesmkhuzangwe7308

2 жыл бұрын

That’s my only concern about this trial, his seniors took some of his compilations n never returned them.

@adelaidemohale2743

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I think mosia was outplayed by his seniors

@kesaobakaphele7428

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@victormolema1141

2 жыл бұрын

You can never be prepared to lie

@hiphopmaloka7116

2 жыл бұрын

so embarrassing from him,,

Zandile Mshololo is our Camille Vasquez!!! Get him Advocate Mshololo🙌

@zebabymazibuko9603

2 жыл бұрын

Whatever you say she also defeated the ends of justice

@delvink

2 жыл бұрын

are advo mshololo and teffo on the same team. I don't seem to get what's happening

@kholofelomangena2021

2 жыл бұрын

@@delvink yeah you can say that. Teffo is representing 4 of the suspects and Mshololo is representing one of the suspects

@nkosinokubongwa576

2 жыл бұрын

@@zebabymazibuko9603 how did she defeated the ends of justice

@samsukazi4797

2 жыл бұрын

I salute that lady she deserves a Bell✊✊👊👊

Bros 🤣😂🤣😂set yourself FREE. As soon as she said she’s going to go through the docket, to question him further….then there was a loud SILENCE in Court 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well played Adv Tefo and Mshololo Tefo just mentioned these, and now Mshololo has made it seen that this second docket has to be considered 👏👏👏

The state's actions are those oplf people who don't care about their people, Mxm. Shame on them

State must compensate those falsely accused guys ,compensate them with kelly khumalos All money n Assets

Private investigation and prosecution is the best option. Unfortunately state is failing.

I also have been thinking about that "My Cup"😀😀😀

No doubt that Mr Baloyi is highly educated.He is polite and articulated

@amukelanimasango5291

2 жыл бұрын

And he's also humble

The translation is a problem

Who will tell the judge that Water is H2O, not HO2? It's 2 hydrogen atoms and 1 oxygen not the other way around...

Bet all of us were waiting to hear about this docket 😉🤫

These are just actors. How can you remember everything happened 8 years ago. They tried to temper with the main evidence on the crime scene, which weakens the case. People must be charged as there is only one evidence of Senzo's body

@terrencempengesi4200

2 жыл бұрын

Most South African Police are rotten to the core bt be that as it may, there are hard working and honest policemen and women our there,I can't paint them all with one brush.

Sound problem

Can somebody give me this judge's # please anyone masataforika ame a mantle??? I feel pity for Teffo he is totally not safe at south africa majority hate him,nobody listens to him,this judge always ignore what Teffo puts infront.If only this judge of yours could have agreed to the 2nd docket we would be far now,he only listen to his queen of Africa poor Teffo!!!May the Lord protect you my boy and fight for those who cant speak for themselves i salute you! Am routing for you here in Germany,may the Lord always keep you calm and not be emotional, i know its hard coz i am always restless too wishing i could teleport and slap 👈🏿 and 👉🏿 🙈🙊.Modimo koooo nkgonne ,ihlokomele satane o go setse m'rago!! 🇩🇪🇧🇼❤️✌🏿

@Bridge_M

2 жыл бұрын

l agree with you,noone takes him serious but he has valid points.

@Bridge_M

2 жыл бұрын

l wish he was in court today, it was going to be fire 🔥 works

@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bridge_M and it really sucks thats unfair,i just wish none dies eish! Hahaha ALL of us wished he was there,he even said he wish he could have been there too,it could have been riot am telling you hehehe!!I wonder what this judge or this moshololo would feel if someone did this to them.May the Lord keep Teffo safe south africa aint a joke, everyday we read of killings after killings,i think you guys are cursed if at all you are south african,it pains bigtime i feel you guys,you need some prayers!! 🙏🏿🙇🏿‍♀️🙌🏿👏🏿

Mosia is lying dragging the case i mean the family wants closure n let the brother rest in peace... just snitch mr mosia finish n klaar 🙄

Is it me or vele Baloyi’s head shines even more when they talk about the other case doket 🤣is he sweating or why🤷🏾‍♂️

@malfan

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@lindimdaka9320

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@mphomangole3768

2 жыл бұрын

Adv Baloyi behaves as though he was instructed to assist Mosia

@SonOfTheSoil834

2 жыл бұрын

@@mphomangole3768 true

Darkness will never ever surpass Light🤞

The question I want advocate musholo to ask Mr Musia is why then did he take the picture of the crutche if he felt that it is of no importance

I have been absent, where is Adv Teffo?

@thandothabethe3465

2 жыл бұрын

Attending a case

@bhekikriel5000

2 жыл бұрын

@@thandothabethe3465 Thanks

Can my learned friend🤭(Baloyi) recommend whatever he uses on his head? It's so shiny🤭🤣😂

@chrismwale1315

2 жыл бұрын

Objection

@khethimohale251

2 жыл бұрын

Overruled

@dennisflo9284

2 жыл бұрын

as the Court pleases

@sontomtolo473

2 жыл бұрын

Guys, your sense of humour...👌🤣😂

@kaytoxmakhasi9388

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂🤣

Viva mshololo ✊✊✊✊

Mshololo you in my heart

The lady interpret is exhausted shame 😩

@thetalkwithmthakazi2494

2 жыл бұрын

She exhausted by the lies I feel for her😭

@kesaobakaphele7428

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'm inspired by Adv Mshololo.

Huhuhuh Mosia Mosia Mosia I wonder how do you sleep nor even thinking of your family tlhee

Well said there by the judge, thank you my Lord

Someone is going to lose their vision Mr Baloyi mfo ngeke 💎✳️

@itumelengleah2994

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Thought it's H2O my Lord.🤣🤣

lot's of red flags here

Adv. Baloyi is really not protecting his client

Can these ppl sue the state for wrongful arrest? Can someone plz educate me.... *side note * mshololo has cute ears😍

It is Ho2 in the cup nothing else 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✊🏻such humor judge

Bamthathephi lomntu ..le genius

Following this from namibia 🇳🇦 why do people just not calling out the witness rather than questioning the the officer or if the officer is part of the deal he must be questioned with the eye witness and all must be locked up

Mshololo we love you.

Ekzeklee what Teffo had wanted

Yooo lapha z’yakhala my Lord🙆🏽‍♀️

The judge🙌🏾

Mara Adv Mshololo is grilling Mosia shooo..............

@mbanjwam.6665

2 жыл бұрын

You can see that the man feels the punch by the way he looks at her.

Just joined live coverage , o kae Adv Teffo ?

@agnesmkhuzangwe7308

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣am glad he’s not there, we will move

@onthusitsejmosie8199

2 жыл бұрын

@@agnesmkhuzangwe7308 😂😂

@waynemongwe8971

2 жыл бұрын

Im sure he is arguing with a judge in another court trial. 😅😂

@onthusitsejmosie8199

2 жыл бұрын

@@waynemongwe8971 😂

Now the case is taking another turn charge them now before they flee the country

@archienyingwa5274

2 жыл бұрын

Just worried about the five accused , Police might entorregate them or something, they must be protected

#JusticeforSenzoMeyiwa ✊

@phakamilemthalane9761

2 жыл бұрын

adv mshololo

It a house "robbery and murder". So, why did they take Senzo to the hospital ?

what Mshololo is saying is exactly what Teffo was asking for, just Teffo can't put his words properly and he mixes a lot of other issues which takes away from the main point

@kitsokgatitsoe2161

2 жыл бұрын

And he's very emotional

@thembsy8618

2 жыл бұрын

​@@kitsokgatitsoe2161 very much so! I think what Mshololo could have said was that "I'm not aware of the docket adv Teffo is referring to" instead of shutting him down completely.

@sandilebuthelezi2165

2 жыл бұрын

Kgante Adv Mshololo is not working with Mshololo , are they not together ? Ayi Nna i am lost , i don't understand this lol ayi

@thembsy8618

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandilebuthelezi2165 they are not working together, but they should for the benefit of their clients. Mshololo is representing accuse #5 and Teffo is representing #1-4

@sandilebuthelezi2165

2 жыл бұрын

@@thembsy8618 ohhhhh! Yerrrr i was lost , thank you so much for clarity.

Kubo Mshololo🙌👏👏

The timing of Adv Mshololo is spot on. Adv Teffo was in a rush. Much more facts are out now. A trail in a trail with the new docket will now be viable.

@thandothabethe3465

2 жыл бұрын

He's rushing 4 justice we want justice

@yibaaugust577

2 жыл бұрын

Trial within a Trial wow im learning something

@farmershope8650

2 жыл бұрын

Mshololo has strong emotional intelligence

@siyabongatshangela3703

2 жыл бұрын

Teffo was confused by the information he had in this case and forgot that all either come through the state or witness. He failed to prompt such evidence on his cross examination. First think he should have done is to apply for protection of his clients to be placed in safe custody and run this case without pressure. First think is to discredit the credibility of the evidence and witness thereof so that the state begin to rely on what you know then or the witness begins to bring things will be in your favor from the box on cross examination. Now Mhshololo has done that and is so far cracking it very well.

@zvazvazva1270

2 жыл бұрын

If it was not for Adv Teffo we would not be here. He is smart. There are hidden issues. Salute to him

Vele why is Kelly Khumalo outside walking freely

Shame on you Mr Bheki Cele and your team you are disgusting even for you to go to Umlazi to the Meyiwa family to tells them that the mistermind on Senzo meyiwa murder is Kelly khumalo surprisingly go further arresting those poor guys you are on the dock today just to protect that girlfriend of yours and her team 😭😭😭😭

@samsukazi4797

2 жыл бұрын

@Side Whittington of cause yes what was his intention going down to Umlazi to tell the Meyiwa family that Kelly khumalo is the mastermind on Senzo's murder but surprisingly comes back to arrest the innocent people what is that he was covering for that Kelly girl cz even Sifiso Senzo's brother did told him about the called they received from uTumelo on the day he was shot? yeah they might not dating but just a one night stand once reveled here on social media hey

@mphojeanettemosala4360

Жыл бұрын

@Side Whittington 😂😂😂😂😂

postponed eish monday is far

Mosia pls don't explain just give the proof

The shiny heard Adv. Baloyi he is so calm 😂

@sibusisobrian5038

2 жыл бұрын

Im convinced he drinks a lot this Baloyi he is so calm to be human shame

@theresambali3077

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....it the shinny heard for me

@pertuniamaphanga550

2 жыл бұрын

He knows he is safe, he is defending the culprits of corruption who can do anything to cover up their schemes

Teffo and Mshololo must team up... man.... they are the only ones abangakhokheliwe brown enveloped🤣

Baby oil is well paid by the ppl driving this ie.longwe n Kelly

So lomama unqena ukbiza u Mosia nge expert

This Judge is the best 👌🏿

@salatiussedibe4197

2 жыл бұрын

Adv mshololo combine with adv Teffo and finish this case

I believe you were an A student at school

Mosia you will be locked up if you are not telling the truth".This is not Kindergarten story, be serious with your witnessing. Sometimes looks like you are not taking this serious .You are not a child that everytime you get help for your witnessing ,the Statements you are the one who made it nobody else. Sometimes I feel sorry and again I think you just have to tell what happened there.All the interpreters are there for you. almost these languages you understand.Must the Court again seek another intepreter for you ? For which language now?

I do have some feelings about this period. These pipo are more than 7 be careful, money is working and even politicians are on it, I can't mention mainly ministry of police.

Yhoo the state's case is blown wide open i like she's in for the truth

Mbokodo mbokodo Ngiya k uzwa ntombazana yibo o mama e sibafunayo e Afrrca I ntandane e nhle ngu ma khotwa ngu Nina

Why is the lawyer keeps referring to people as lying

Ziyakhala right now.... Mosia facing chest pains.

Mosia khuluma iqiniso please

But Adv Teffo has been talking about the docket all along

@kitsokgatitsoe2161

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is how Tefo delivers his message...it's never consice and articulate

@busisiweleigh-anne7067

2 жыл бұрын

Remember Teffo is not a favourite . It taste sweeter now that Mshololo is mentioning it Otherwise it’s the same

@waynemongwe8971

2 жыл бұрын

In court u dnt just talk. U must submit application which adv teffo did not do... U dnt just talk, u must put applications ahead.

@Bridge_M

2 жыл бұрын

@@kitsokgatitsoe2161 He was clear but nobody bothered to listen to him.,he is just a man of many words and put emotions forward.

The judge is astute

Mshololo is clearer when arguing merits and ethics of the case. Not when she is questioning witnesses

@giftgumede3505

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree with you there

@sinazovutuza9615

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Adv Teffo is busy with interviews as well so he has to focus for the benefit of the Clients cos the argument of bail for accuse 1 and 2 he never touched on when he was questioning the witness. Now Adv Mshololo is busy he brings up his clients being violated.