I’m totally okay with the date. I prefer it, even find it charming, like a unique quirk. But I want a great on the fly adjustment clasp if they are hiking the price up and up without tightening the accuracy tolerances.

@trollse8714

2 ай бұрын

That would make the watch seriously compelling

The new position of the date is perfect. Bravo Seiko. The perfect compromise of symmetry and having a date nevertheless.

I have a steel on steel Tag Heuer Aqua Racer Calibre 5 with blue dial as a daily and I have been on the market for a simple looking, affordable, and decently sized daily diver in black! Could not find any but this one ticks all the boxes! Just ordered it!

Great work as always, Marcus

Nice looking watches and you generally can't go wrong with Seikos, just wished you had a shot of that other strap on the wrist 😎

Your videoshop is so enjoying I just wanna see the watch

I think these look great. Great review Marcus.

Looks good I would still prefer the sunburst dial. Also think the price is out there for what it is

Great improvements!!! Blue one is

i think there’s some improvements but I much prefer my 143’s sunray grey dial and brushed bezel and 3:00 date. I also own the sje093 which I love but doesn’t replace my 143. I’m even more grateful I have one now that they’re being replaced.

Ive owned 2 SPB143.s and never had a problem with the movement only loosing a few seconds a day, the dimensions on these watches look perfect and I can’t wait to see them in the flesh 😍

@Andrew-yy2ye

2 ай бұрын

I've got the sbp 293 save the ocean with the blue birch dial, beautiful watch terrible movement mine gains around+30seconds a day in the box and around half that on the wrist,can see the455 in my collection 😁👍

@leeevans8407

2 ай бұрын

It’s a must the dimensions are perfect and they all look stunning with probably the 455 the pic of the bunch 😍

@JacobLawrenceCanning

2 ай бұрын

I have an SPB 313 and it's extremely accurate. Running at +2 seconds a day.

Would you be able to comment on the reflection of the crystal in comparison to the older models (e.g., spb143)? Thanks!

Nice video! Btw can this new bracelet be fitted on spb143?

Love this chanel

I don’t know if these are available in the USA yet.

Are those prices correct? How does $100 US extra for the special edition equal $350 AU extra??

I wonder why the gilt and the blue ones have black date window and not the same color as the dial. Imagine a no date version, that would bring this one to (almost) Tudor level.

what colour looks best in person?

I still want one.

At first I wasn't sure about Seiko's new models either. worried there is an issue like the previous models. last week, I saw this model in a boutique in my place. I tried this watch on there. I'm not sure, this watch is the same as in other boutiques or not. The bracelet is much more comfortable than the older 62 mas. The bezel alignment is also in the right place. Did seiko really upgraded their product on this model? 😅

Has Seiko addressed the horrible fitment of the bracelet to the lugs in previous iteration, in this updated version?

What size is your wrist for reference?

Tried these on in an AD last week. Somehow they feel significantly more premium. I was seriously debating upgrading from the 147. The new bezel is a big improvement and the case wears so much better even though the changes are small. The dial symmetry really helps too. This thing will absolutely slay as soon as they release the 147 + 143 equivalents

@mohnnadmercedes8246

19 күн бұрын

Does wears significantly smaller than spb143?

@pk1342

19 күн бұрын

@@mohnnadmercedes8246 it's not huge but significant enough to make a difference. It's quite easy to tell side by side on the wrist. Everything just feels a bit more well proportioned. Shrinking the font size on the bezel helps as well.

@mohnnadmercedes8246

19 күн бұрын

@@pk1342 i own seiko alpinist 38mm non compass one, do you think its suitable for small wrist? Especially the lug to lug is almost identical on the new 453

@pk1342

19 күн бұрын

@@mohnnadmercedes8246 yup the dial is well proportioned for the lug to lug so I think it will look great on Smaller wrists. Mine is 16cm or so and it was perfect.

@pk1342

16 күн бұрын

@@mohnnadmercedes8246 definitely

Nice. Are endlinks male or female?

I choose SPB453, it is worth owning and handsome

These upgrades are amazing and the watches look even better proportioned than their predecessors. How glossy/shiny would you say the 455 gilt is in person? Is it comparable to the SPB147 in terms of looks?

The grey gilt and navy for me ❤

how much

What's the song?

I prefer the SPB143. It's a classic.

@richarddobson4marrickville

Ай бұрын

Same. 40.5mm is only just large enough for my 18cm wrist... Any smaller is too small.

2:12 SPB 543 ? guess this is a mistake?

The black and gold is really nice. I'll say this again and again...Seiko needs to fire whoever designs their bracelets and clasps. This bracelet is better but the clasp looks cheap.

hate 6r movement, but im going to make an exception and get this, gonna take a look at black or blue in person before making the decision

@ajmarion

2 ай бұрын

My experience with 6R’s has been good, I’ve had 6R15, 6R35, and 6R54 and no issues. I’ve had more issues with SW200’s

Aluminium bezel insert ? I heard the bezel is in carbon titanium... which is much more durable than aluminium...

personally like the old date position

It’s nice but in Australia it’s the best part of 2.5k.

Still with no signed crown, why?

Actually more Disappointed that the current update of the MarineMaster only has 200m of water resistance when compared to these models.

@JowcoI

2 ай бұрын

Do you want to dive that deep ? This is ridiculous

@Nakkisampyla

Ай бұрын

Professional desk diver

I tend to dislike the 4:30 date window particularly because the numbers arent aligned with the wearer's eye and if the shape of the window matches the indicies it's pretty awful. Having it like this or like B&R do it is as good as it gets.

@TheAlbert12397

2 ай бұрын

For me it ruins the watch. I wouldn't wear this watch even if given to me for free because the 4.30 date window is so horrible

@sebastien6483

2 ай бұрын

@@TheAlbert12397 Fair enough. There's a lot of choices to be had. Personally I'm not in the market for more divers so that's why I'm out. I could still understand someone liking this.

Overall very nice. BUT, I won't own another Seiko Prospex until they update their clasp and get rid of that damn diver extension and replace it with one that looks, functions, and wears a lot better and looks worthy to be on a premium $1k

@josephcastillo6742

2 ай бұрын

I want to like seiko watches, but the bracelets and clasp like you mentioned just ruin it for me. Idk how I feel about an aluminum bezel as well. Overall very nice, but don’t think I’ll be spending my money with seikos watches until the clasps and bracelets get updated

@khronokraze

2 ай бұрын

@@josephcastillo6742 regarding the bezel. I personally like an aluminum or steel bezel over ceramic. I know less scratch proof. I would say they are not necessarily less durable. Ceramic can crack where as metal may get dented, but it should still hold. In either scenarios, if watch bezel insert takes hard enough impact to crack the ceramic or dent a metal one, it won't be a good thing. But, the finish of a metal insert looks better to me, too.

@dukes70

2 ай бұрын

Well said!! They make the worst bracelets and clasps yet charge $1400!! Then they’ll put this clasp on their Grand Seiko and charge $10K!! Lol 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@josephcastillo6742

2 ай бұрын

@@dukes70 microbrands give you so much for your money. It’s kind of hard to go the seiko route. Seikos do have some of the most beautiful dials though

The 3 days text is an absolute turkey 🦃 would have massively preferred they stuck with the 6R35 and kept that neat pyramid of text under the pinion

@JowcoI

2 ай бұрын

The 3 days text bashing is getting annoying, basically every new single mid tier Prospex and Presage will have the text, we have to get over it , it is not worst than the original text Dialshock 24 jewels

seiko black bay?

@enasnI127

2 ай бұрын

No. Hands, Indexes, proportions, crown guards and so on are all totally different.

I seriously hope that it’s a 120 click bezel and the offset (read: misaligned) pip on the 455 shot at 2:46 is just one click offset and not the real watch as it shipped…

@pk1342

2 ай бұрын

It is. Reviewers "misalign" them to get hits and comments

Skx013 is still the king of midsize diver

Impressive. Very nice. Lets see Paul Allen's Seiko watch.

is there a cheaper alternative to this style ? Under 500 dollar. From Seiko 5 series perhaps ?

@szurrogatum

2 ай бұрын

There will be SRPK99K1 soon. There are SRPD51K1, SRPD55K1, SRPD57K1, SRPD65K1. But to be honest, nothing is close enough, as those are seiko 5s, with different braclet, different finishing, different movement. They are not 62mas remakes. Usually these are sold with 4r36 (day+ date). 4r36's accuracy is -35/+45 seconds per day, hovewer they are more accurate. PR is 41 hours, wr is only 100m. 6r55 is -15/+25 seconds per day, with 72 hours power reserve. You might want try spb147J1, cheaper than new 62mas versions. With 6r35 movement.

@tebetmania

2 ай бұрын

@@szurrogatum Thank you for your advice. I'm curious too about the Orient Kamasu and Ray watches. How do they stand up against the Seiko 5's ?

@szurrogatum

2 ай бұрын

@@tebetmania Seiko 5s are not real diver watches, I would say they are diver style watches. Orient Kamasu/Mako are better as diver watches. Seiko 5 has usually 100m water resistance, Kamasu has 200m. Kamasu has sapphire, that is much better. The movemenet is F6922, with ~40 hours power reserve, accuracy is -15/+25 seconds/ day. Bezel is good compared to its price, finishing is good compared to price, movement is good compared to price, sapphire is a huge advantage. Screw down crown. The bracelet can be the the issue, but probably better than seiko 5s entry level bracelets. I would chose Orient Kamasu over Seiko 5. But I wouldn't say they look like 62Mas. Kamasu has day and date, the hands are different, and of course the finishing is also different etc. etc.. Orient Kamasu is a good, cheaper, entry level diver. In most of the cases better than Seiko 5. Try one newer version with sapphire crystal, you get good value for your money. (There were a lot of Mako versions in the past) But never forget these are automatic watches. If you don't have an automatic watch there are things you need to consider. The accuracy of a quartz watch is better, you can put down a quartz for days and they won't stop. Usually automatic watches are thicker, especially divers. I beleive there are two options: you can buy an Orient, or you save money and buy a more expensive watch. There are microbrands out there (Christopher Ward, Baltic), there are the Seiko prospex watches, there are Seiko turtle or Samurai watches (look different, the case style is different than 62MAS). And there are brands like Certina or Mido. In the Orient Kamasu price range Kamasu is a very good watch or can be the best.

@manzahalem8845

Ай бұрын

@@tebetmania Roughly similar, maybe a hair "nicer".

The 62MAS has a very compact case. Not sure i like the clipping of the lugs to make it shorter. Probably staying with the SPB143.

Nice piece, cheaper & japanese alternative to blackbay 58!

you’re literally my comfort person i love you #nkuwan !

GREAT watch except for the movement. I have the SPB147. Came from the factory running +30 spd

@blairdalgleish8247

2 ай бұрын

I have this one too, it runs + 20s per day

@ajmarion

2 ай бұрын

I have the GMT version, 6R54, runs around +8s/d

@JowcoI

2 ай бұрын

This is not the same movement , this is the new 6R55

@blairdalgleish8247

Ай бұрын

I have this to, it’s runs at + 20 per day, not good enough given what they cost

the blue is my, but i will will see the special when i choice

I prefer the 143. A future classic. Firstly, I like its dimensions and I definitely don't want a smaller watch. Next, the gray dial and brushed bezel look stunning. Finally, only two micro-adjustments on the clasp of the new watch is pathetic for a diver. I don't care for 300m and smaller links on the bracelet. 143 for me and I will buy a second one for my personnal collection.

Is the misaligned bezel part of what makes the special edition “special”?

Why isn’t the second hand moving in any of this footage?

@justMakss

2 ай бұрын

It’s a dummy movement for press footage Cheaper than sending the real thing to all the content creators

I don't see these at 1300 plus tax USD. 700-800 at most.

@DaltonMirklestein

2 ай бұрын

I guess the reality is different than what you see

Seiko doesn’t listen to its customers, if they did, they would regulate their movements, sign the crown and improve their quality control

@alexspink4325

2 ай бұрын

😂 are you sure they didn’t want an unnecessary update release with a 4.30 date and 3 days on the dial?

@1250GSX

2 ай бұрын

They do listen and did all three of those things with the SLA 043. It'll cost you though.... 😃

What's the cost pls.?

@UltraDoug

2 ай бұрын

Bottom of the chart shown at 2:27

@courtpaul9334

2 ай бұрын

​@@UltraDougOh yes tk u very much 👍

Non replaceable crown tube 😞

Bezel insert should be ceramic

Looks like a Tudor Watch.

The date looks ridiculous they should have just ditched it all together

Why can't seiko put a higher beat movement for a watch that cost more than 1k? it's a real shame.

Hey Seiko!!! It’s a dive watch we don’t need a date.

@milianriedel

2 ай бұрын

this

@user-lh8ql5zr5e

2 ай бұрын

Yes we do.

@westcoast.s5

2 ай бұрын

What if you needed to sign a contract underwater ?

@milianriedel

Ай бұрын

@@westcoast.s5 imagine you are diving for two days and not sure what date it is, but your watch saves you!

I don't buy a watch without a date. This is a seiko knock out

Background music is too loud.

Seiko: we made a great watch case and made the dimensions perfect for an everyday wear watch. Also Seiko: let’s top it off with an aluminum bezel and a 3hz unregulated movement then charge 1,000+ dollars for it! Seriously, you can’t even be bothered to slap a ceramic bezel and tune up the movement for that money. Modern Seiko is just loosing my business.

I like these. Don’t like the price.

The bezel looks thick now with smaller diameter.

Nice video. Aluminum bezel is huge turn-off, and also I really dislike how Seiko is so okay with terrible accuracy

cmon, -15/+25 seconds per day and they ask €1.600 for this watch...

they still cant sign a god-damn crown tho!

@JowcoI

2 ай бұрын

They don’t sign the prospex crown , get over it ,this is getting annoying , 🥱🥱

I love 4.5 date. But if it was square

@TheAlbert12397

2 ай бұрын

The 4.5 date window utterly ruins this watch for me. Other than date window this is great looking watch. I hate 4.5 window so much I wouldn't wear this watch even if it was given to me for free

@zeussugi7936

2 ай бұрын

@TheAlbert12397 I prefer 4.5 date, and all the indices. It's funny how such a small thing is important. And so many opinions.

Why Seiko always put date on a diver style watch? some kind of obsessive compulsive disorder?

That black date disc on the blue dial is a joke.

I've been wanting the 62mas reissue, but I couldn't bringyself to pay $1,000+ for that godawful movement, after a bad experience with my Willard. That blue has me sold

@JowcoI

2 ай бұрын

Not the same movement though

@gynat5968

2 ай бұрын

Picked up my SPB 143 JDM for $900. Great daily if you live and play on\in the water. Looks better with a few dings and scratches.

Honestly this appears to just be a marketing video.

I’d pay $500 for it.

4.30 date window is the strangest

Sad, I think they missed the mark. The thickness of the original was the achilles heel. The height + angular design made it wear awkward. Not shaving off more in favor of increased water resistance was a weird choice. (Context: Previous Spb143 owner)

I hope they made this movement better. The 6r35 is a dog

I don’t know how the damn Japanese just can’t figure out that X symbol and date is ULTRA LAME. This thing would be absolute beast mode without those 2 present. What an abismal failure!! Man the potential.

Very nice watch but I require a quartz version.

They could've just gotten rid of that stupid power reserve line, move the text up, maybe shave a tiny little bit off of the hour marker at 6 o clock and put the date window there. This is just terrible, not only is the date too small, it's also in the worst possible spot, in my opinion.

@cy9nvs

2 ай бұрын

@@JowcoI And I don't care that you don't care. I'm just voicing my opinion, deal with it. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Still though, only fair-to-middling movement.

You know what could make this watch perfect? No date and just remove the silly "3 DAYS" text on the dial

The date and text ruins it. Also, it didn’t need to be smaller the spb143 sits on the wrist perfectly. New designs don’t perfect anything, they detract from an already great design.

6L37 or nothing

Terrible read of the script. But good info though!

Clasp is outdated

"Automatic 3 Days" is rather tacky. ...Gimmicky, maybe. Definitely undesirable.

@glennhaley7404

2 ай бұрын

I agree

@ajmarion

2 ай бұрын

I have it on my MM200 GMT, and while I would definitely prefer it not be there, the text is really small in person so I don’t notice very often

@JowcoI

2 ай бұрын

Bullshit, the original text was Dialshock 24 jewels , are you going to shit on it as well ? Get over the text it won’t move

@bettersteps

2 ай бұрын

@@JowcoI I will not get over it. The text is still undesirable. It is ugly and gimmicky. I will shit on it.

The main issue for me is the size of the watch. Love the design and history but next to my turtles which I have worn for up to 30 years it just looks like a ladies watch on my wrist. No matter how hard I try I can’t get past how weak it looks next to a turtle. Make a slightly bigger one next time round.

Their clasp system is horrible too

Black Bay or Pelagos? Well, the clasp is awful!! I want to buy this, but this clasp...

that 3 days text on dial is so f ugly. why would they put that there

Date window sucks

Doesn’t matter if the movement is a 6r which is a big load of crap

The date ruins it.

@matlindell5022

2 ай бұрын

Couldn´t agree more.The 3 hz movement is also a shitter unfortunately 🤢

@Harvin87

2 ай бұрын

No it doesnt.

@tankt13

2 ай бұрын

Everyone has opinions

@DeepsGnome

2 ай бұрын

While I prefer a 6 o'clock date, or even 3 o'clock date, i think this is the best implementation of a 4.30 date ive ever seen. The small circle window, combined with a completely straight on horizontal viewing angle at 4.30 is an amazing execution.

@mezcalycafe8702

2 ай бұрын

For you

If the date comes with Cyclops glass. My goodness!!!

Ruined date window F seiko

Smaller, bolder, better… and way more expensive. What better way to indoctrinate a bunch of new Seiko fanboys?