Check out the 62MAS_TER high end video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ln-Izryjo6bWmLg.html

Good review! The “3 Days” on the dial is not necessary

@philipwillingham5950

Ай бұрын

for real. makes it sound like we are kids. "dont forget, its 3 days power reserve kids!" ....smh..

@patmans88

Ай бұрын

Just like orient putting water resistant on all their dials. It's a basic feature that doesn't need to take up real estate to describe.

@Apex_Apeq

22 күн бұрын

For me it's okay. don't forget *chronometer certified" on some Swiss watch. Those look great for me .

@jonirwin7316

15 күн бұрын

Why did you end your message with "smh"? Makes zero sense.​@@philipwillingham5950

@philipwillingham5950

Күн бұрын

@@Apex_Apeq chronometer has more flex than biden remembering what to say on stage...

Love the date window at 4:30!! Perfect colorway. Chef's kiss.

I much prefer the date placement on the new version. Looks great without cutting into the lume.

🤩 Great video. Thanks for spotting details others had missed and taking such HQ shots 🙏

@EscapementWatch

17 күн бұрын

My pleasure 😊

I got my sbdc053 for $670 US, 6years ago, still have it at the moment. At this current price point, lots of competition with better movement and less qc issues. I do give seiko credit for beautiful original designs but I hope they also focus on their qc issues.

Thanks for Sharing the new Seiko 👍

Thanks for the content. When I hear that music, I know it’s about to get good.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

haha HYPE!

The blue looks stunning! I may pull the trigger on that one

@mariog7213

Ай бұрын

I agree, it's such a great shade of blue...but then again, that black one looks awesome as well.

@ajmarion

27 күн бұрын

Blue one looks amazing

@kha6905

25 күн бұрын

blue is my

I love the secret measurement “poink” sound lol 😅

Thanks for the in-depth overview of these new Seiko 63MAS divers. They do look more refined and could have more comfort on the wrist.

So is the caseback essentially the same height but with a flat kanagawa wave logo? I also noticed the chamfered and polished bezel edge from earlier press shots, really helps to outline the watch.

Blue or black is a must for me

That blue one is sweet! I’d probably go for the MM200 GMT first at this price point, but I’d love to pick up that blue 63MAS at some point

Nice old vintage look,very good and nice watch

I have an SPB297 and i love It. These are very very nice, a definite improvement

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Great to hear!

have they managed to line up the bezels on this one? I have the 147 62MAS and the lume pip settles about .5 mm passed 12 o'clock - annoying

Thanks, nice review ! that date window , yikes

Hi sir. I'm your fan. Please make a comparison video between bb58 & spb455. I have a bb 58. and just thought about buying this spb 455 because it looks more interesting with the case design and the color. Thanks a lot sir. ❤

I am looking forward to trying this on in person. I sold my SPB143, lovely watch but wore too large on my wrist. The SJE is just dang spendy or I'd go for that.

If I was looking for a straight up dive watch the blue is very good.

Is the accuracy still horrible?

I really like your reviews always watch until the very end, very neat and detailed. Only one thing keeps me away from mid range 62 mas watches is 6R35 movement, with it's weird unpredictable accuracy. Hope they do well with this movement, and could finally compete with mid range Swiss 80 powermatic movement in terms of stability and accuracy.

The title says 63mas, perhaps you should fix that ;) On-topic: I got my SPB453 a couple of days ago and it is an improvement over the 143 in every way. The dial looks much cleaner with the added hour marker and the date window is barely noticeable. The '3 days' on the dial is unnecessary, but if you ask me, so is 'Chronometer Officially Certified', which uses much more dial space. The date and three days text seem to be a dealbreaker for many, and I can understand that these features seem prominent if you are only looking at pictures or macro shots. When you are actually handling the watch, you barely notice either. The bracelet and clasp still leave a lot to be desired at this price point so I cant wait for an aftermarket bracelet or perhaps I should just get an Artem sailcloth. Love the upgrades Seiko!

@kimchiwasabee

Ай бұрын

Congrats. And i like the date at 4:30 a lot. W/o the index at 3,a watch looks stupid to me.

Good video and review! I like the new release.

Your reviews are always very detailed. Difference if any between spb239 and this new guilt model.

Good details.

Thank you for doing this; very informative. Am I weird for liking the date aperture location and shape?😃

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

nope its 50/50 from what I have read so far

Great review as usual

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

I appreciate that

I have ALL the iterations of the previous version, and have just got the SPB455. The very small changes to the watch head dimensions are surprisingly noticeable on the wrist, it does wear a little smaller, is a tad more comfortable on my 7.5" wrist and the bracelet is definitely an improvement. No mention on the Seiko website or your review of a 'super hard coating' on the case, I believe most of the the previous versions did. Any info on that?

@EscapementWatch

29 күн бұрын

Yes it has dia Shield coating. I put it in the measurements section when I did the diameter

@bobbyjoebbq3657

28 күн бұрын

@@EscapementWatch Sorry, didn't see that. Doh! Thank you for replying.

Great video. Really appreciate the detailed comparison and on-screen graphics!

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

When they release the grey without the faux patina on a bracelet, as a true SPB143 replacement, I'll really be interested.

@mariog7213

Ай бұрын

they will...as a limited edition and 500 more 😀

I've had bad experience with the 6R35 and 6R54 movements. They just randomly decide to go out of spec (by a huge margin). I'm talking about one to two minutes off a day. I don't think I can trust this one either... So far the SLA models have been good to me, and one day I might try an SJE.

@jim.anchower

Ай бұрын

Same deal for me after ~3 years of ownership with my SPB. I picked up the SJE093 but still have my SPB, which I got serviced.

For that price you should get applied indexes.

@pk1342

Ай бұрын

They apply indices on cheaper watches, SEIKO do this to eliminate the risk of indices from falling off under the stresses of Pro diving.

Great review.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

For me, the small round date window at 4:30 is a disqualifier. Thanks for your review. You always do a great job.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Really? if you live with it its well hidden you hardly notice it. But I get it! thanks for watching

@Not-a-bot222

Ай бұрын

Previously owning the Sinn 556 and marathon MSAR, the window isn’t noticeable unless you look for it. Especially after the first week on wrist

@flow2tech

Ай бұрын

@@Not-a-bot222 yep...I have a hard time even noticing it in the video unless I look for it.

@malzahar33

Ай бұрын

I think people just over react about it just because it is a new think. I don't find any problem with this location

@malzahar33

Ай бұрын

No matching date wheel with the dial on the special edition is a pity

I read the link about MEMS but it seems some portions were deleted? It doesn't state MEMS there

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Yes it's very strange he deleted his photos. But you can see the post he created the tags are 6 r35 service and mems. And the first commenter saying wow Seiko can achieve so much precision with mems thank you for sharing. It was posted last year and I did see them they were very crude memes technology it wasn't like the grand Seiko pallet fork and escape wheel quality wise. I did not have rights to the photo so I couldn't post it I should have just saved it on my computer

I'm really liking the black and blue and not sure which I'd pick...definitely not the gilt though. I can't wait for that fad to disappear

What SLA model is it in the beginning of the video??? It looks mostly like SLA073 but fully black dial with Marine master name right under Seiko logo... what could that be??? Please help to find exact ref!

@EscapementWatch

26 күн бұрын

Oh that is the new SLA Marinemaster coming soon stay tuned.

@user-lz7on4os6w

25 күн бұрын

@EscapementWatch thanks for a hint! I've found announced model) Please ask Seiko to release exact design in Titanium. It wold be a genius hit of the market!!! Seiko need it to close losses of LX Line.

These are so nice! Hard to decide between the special edition and the blue

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

the special edition is really special in the flesh. Looks so great in all light! the scuba blue is very dark and can look like a black watch at times.

@flow2tech

Ай бұрын

@@EscapementWatch Damn you...You make me want both ..Off the record ..I'm actually picking up the navigator GMT tomorrow..I know it's over priced ..But man I just have to have it..🤣

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Navigator gmt is awesome! congrats ahead of time!

Maybe the 3 days on the dial of this one refers to how often you have to set the time.

Good review! 👍

@EscapementWatch

29 күн бұрын

Glad you liked it

The hour hands doesnt align perfectly with the marker😫, when the minute hits 60min mark the hour hand is a bit late by 1-2 minute.

Definitely needed another low beat rate high dollar watch that’s almost identical to the previous ones they’ve put out.

I own a Seiko LX titanium spring drive, Omega Seamaster, and Damasko dk32 submarine steel hardened case. The movement on the Seiko 63mas is satisfactory, but I am concerned about its accuracy. Anyway, great video

Curious if the uncle seiko bracelet for my SPB147 would fit this. I’m sure someone will try it soon enough.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

I'm guessing it wont fit.

Ok. I have the SPB143 which I love. Great review . Do I need to this watch?????

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Since you love the 143 already no need.

@daveLin104

19 күн бұрын

Would love the 143 in this size with the slimmer shorter link bracelet, but 3 micro adjust.

Ok I just checked the link for the proof picture and for some reason the watchmaker took down his photo's of the escape wheel and pallet fork. He posted last year in May and I thought it would always be up. No idea why he edited his post and deleted it. BUTTTTTTT you can see the 1st commenter saying, "Thanks for sharing. Precision part manufacturing to the tolerances seiko achieve with MEMS is amazing tech." One day when another watchmaker posts pics I'll update the link. sorry guys.

@Not-a-bot222

Ай бұрын

It’s okay, I believe you! Back to watching Godzilla Minus One, Japan is killing it lately !

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

looks good!

Do Seiko offer any reasonably priced diver with ceramic bezel insert?

@EscapementWatch

12 күн бұрын

These 3 Seikos: kzread.info/dash/bejne/loWErriRYpPOnrg.html

@mig1552

12 күн бұрын

@@EscapementWatch thanks mate :) too bad that citizen don’t have divers with ceramic insert. It’s must have for a beater watch for me..

2:38 Are the hands not both pointing exactly at 12?

@EscapementWatch

27 күн бұрын

yes it looks like a hair off. But interestingly when I go to 1-2minutes pasted 12 you can see the hour hand tip then passes 12. Could be an illusion of the handset (half polish half brushed)

Hi, which one is better Seiko SPB451 or Longines Hydroconquest L3.781.4.96.6?

@EscapementWatch

7 күн бұрын

Hydro

I hate the round date aperture and its placement. A 6 o’clock or 3 o’clock date window would be fine. The 4:30 sucks

@roryoconnor3425

Ай бұрын

Couldn’t disagree more! Such a delicate and mindful placement, totally melds into the dial. I hate 3 and 6!

02:39 From this angle the hour marker does not align with the minute marker @ 1200 thats kinda biggie :(

@tilio9380

Ай бұрын

Seiko made it abundantly clear that they don't give a hoot about QC on these mid to low end models.

@tylerhun87

Ай бұрын

@@tilio9380 now that is a problem, since even a 100 dollar skagen watch aligns perfectly, if not, they take it back

backward wiggle on the bezel still exist on this new version :(

Removing the 3 days, X logo & the date at 4:30, put it at 3 or just remove it at all

@Apex_Apeq

22 күн бұрын

I think a Pagani design will match with u

@KV_55555

14 күн бұрын

@@Apex_Apeq with me? What do you mean?

Why the black dial is on strap only ? Is it available with bracelet ? Is it regulated or they just throw it at us with their atrocious -10/+25 ?

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

black dial comes on bracelet

@mathewazzopard8100

Ай бұрын

@@EscapementWatch link to check it ? Edit still waiting

I'm very tempted by these although I've heard that there's a 30th anniversary skx in the pipeline. I'm very interested learning the level of spec for this.

@pk1342

Ай бұрын

From tmwc or anyone else?

@simonwright6882

Ай бұрын

@@pk1342 Only Russell tmwc .

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

what is tmwc, a new leak source? as for a new skx I've been hearing about it but could be just rumors. It came out in 96 right so 2026 30 year? I can see that happening. Seiko always looking for an anniversary excuse to make a watch.

@pk1342

Ай бұрын

@@EscapementWatch I haven't seen any reputable leak source about an SKX but there was a video from the mad watch collector recently speculating about an SKX 30th anniversary reinterpration - I was wondering if this is what OP was referring to.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

ahh ok

이번 나온 제품중에서 포인트는 두꼐를 0.5 줄여지면서 디자인은 얇아지면서 오히려 방수 스펙은 200mm에서 300mm 으로 올려진점에서 좋은방향의 디자인 진보라 생각됩니다. 다이버지만 일상 생활에서 착용을 추구하는 디자인을 추구하는 방향으로 두께는 얇야지고 무게를 감소함으로써 착용감을 개선했다는 점에서 좋다고 생각합니다. 그리고 거기에에 방수 300mm 로 견딜수 있게 만들진점이 좋다고 생각됩니다. 차도 마찬가지로 엔진의 다운사이징을 만드는것 이 더 어렵다는걸 생각해봐야 할것 같습니다. 외형은 줄이면서 스펙을 늘리는 작업 쉽지많은 않다고 생각됩니다. 기존 SPB143 한국 가격이지만 206만원 거기에 이번 모델은 222만원으로 책정되었습니다. 불과 16만원 상승입니다. 만들어진 디자인 스펙에 비하면 과하지 않다고 생각됩니다.

Beautiful watch! Don’t understand all the hate.

@EscapementWatch

12 күн бұрын

Its a Seiko so naturally it is hated.

날짜창의 위치 변경은 이렇게 생각됩니다. ISO 인증을 위해 3시 방향의 작은 인덱스 야광을 개선하기 위해 4시 방향으로 빠지면서 3시 인덱스를 크기를 키움으로써 야광을 개선을 하다보니 부득이하게 4시 와 5시 사이로 위치를 바꾸었을거라 생각됩니다.

Thanks for the review! Agree the cheap stamped sheet metal bracelet extension has to go

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

You bet!

@flow2tech

Ай бұрын

​@@EscapementWatch What will uncle Seiko come up with is the question..His jubilee completely changed my 143

I have an SPB143. Do you think I "need" this one?. I love your video like always but I will love a more face to face video with the spb143... A battle?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Thank you very much for your review

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

I'd say no you don't "need" this one if you already have a 63mas.

@carlosluisdiaz5744

Ай бұрын

@@EscapementWatch thank you from me wallet. Have a very nice day

awesome vid

Price ain't the same anymore. The main questions here is, is it still worth it to buy a seiko, when you have a lot of microbrands with better value.

@EscapementWatch

27 күн бұрын

that is a personal decision. Some people value Seiko's heritage and will be willing to pay more.

I wish I knew more about watches. A local jewelry store that I’ve been a patron for decades just started selling Seiko Prospex watches. The cheapest one is about $2400. But the Dillards at the mall has some a lot cheaper -$500-$700. The most expensive one on Seiko’s website is about $1000. I’ve looked at other places online too and found the same disparity. Why such a huge difference? What am I missing?

@EscapementWatch

12 күн бұрын

different Seiko tiers. SLA or SJE references are the upper end 2k+ with superior finish on the inside and case. Also, the movements are a tier above. SPB reference is this one in this video and is mid-tier. And SRPE is lower end. Its more complicated but that should help you start.

I like your new visual setup very much. Congratulations 🎉

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

thanks its an ai background I designed using an app. I will be using it for awhile when I do intros.

Beautiful watches in person. But yea, come on Seiko, the stamped clasp and diver extension remain awful!

@pk1342

20 күн бұрын

The clasp looks fully milled. The divers extension is stamped

@LeongLeeLing

19 күн бұрын

Dont think so on the clasp, but I could be wrong :)

Annoying they wont go with a date at 6 or just a no date variant. Btw does this still have a diashield coating that gives the metal a warmer hue?

@RafaRodriguezOfficial

Ай бұрын

It's unlikely that they will make one without date given that the S in 62MAS comes from "Selfdater", as in, with a date complication.

@joshn.5625

Ай бұрын

I actually like the date (and generally hate 4:30 date windows). I have a Slim Turtle and in person it is very discreet. I think they made the change to be ISO compliant, as you know must have lume plots at every hour.

@a51nx

Ай бұрын

​@@joshn.5625 Agreed. The black variant this release is the best one to my eyes as it makes the date window discreet. Hard to unsee in the other colors however

@ponjk101

29 күн бұрын

I love where the date is, better than having it at 3 or 6 o'clock.. Like other watches. Iv got older version & very happy with it 😊 + still no scratches thx to dia-shield coating. (if u don't want a date, buy black bay 58)

@MrFredrictai

29 күн бұрын

little steps in refinement, giant step on price~ 😅

Very nice 😍😍😍

Thumbs up for your video. As with the subject of the video... I'm still not sold on the new 6R55 movement. And, your explanation that it is essentially the same as the previous 6R35 is not encouraging. The current state of the 6R movements and the poor clasp with ugly dive extension which is useless for nearly all of us as well as restricting good articulation of the bracelet to rest flat when placed on a table top all make me hold off from any Seiko dive watch purchases until they satisfactorily address both. I might have been inclined to spend significantly more to go with the new Marine Master with 6L movement. BUT, the same crappy clasp situation will hold me back. I want the COMPLETE package from Seiko divers. Plenty of other watches to enjoy until then... If that day will ever come.

So is the l2l 46.4, or 47.4?

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

watch the video my man! I show dimensions for both old and new full details.

@El-AYE-Ra1s3d

Ай бұрын

@EscapementWatch i did watch it, brother. You said 46.4mm but on the screen it said 47.4mm. Ill rewatch it, maye i made a mistake.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Sorry for the confusion. The list that pops up on the top left says "last gen measurements" so you guys can compare. but the moving animation with watch in hand is the new one: 46.4mm. Last generation is 47.5mm @4:30 (previous generations full measurements) Hope that clears it up.

@El-AYE-Ra1s3d

Ай бұрын

​@EscapementWatch yeah, my fault. Great review brother, as always 👍

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watch appreciate you long time subs.

Gah! Just do a no date version already! 😂

Are you even allowed to be a watch KZreadr without that “A MAN AND HIS WATCH” book somewhere in every video?

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Its against the law to not have it.

I still prefer the older model (only 1st gen as they dont have hideous lume on minute track at 3), i cant stand the date at 4.30 and what they brag about 3 days pr. Its a must buy for me if no date and just written “automatic 300m” cuz damn they look good. 😂

This is only a small bump in price over the cheaper $1000 Citizen Promaster Fujitsubo Automatic diver watch. While that Citizen watch has a decent titanium bracelet it looks and feels cheap compared to this more expensive Seiko Watch. That gorgeous blue dial is what I really like with this Seiko diver watch. I would only buy one of these new these new Seiko 63MAS divers if I could get a decent discount.

I wish I could have one but I'm poor and can't have one but I'm still going to get a plastic watch 😢

No. Date windows should either be at 3 or 6 o clock

@BlueCuddlefish

Ай бұрын

I've been getting into no date watches but i'm kind of liking the hidden appearance of this one. Temping...

What’s with the falling titan name?

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

just a fun name I used when I started the channel. I didn't want to be a typical boring "hello I'm john smith and lets talk watches with coffee" type of thing. that was the original plan and I'm stuck with it now

The "62MAS Homage" link goes to a dead web page.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

thanks fixed!

2:39 I have had a previous generation 63MAS with the same hand alignment issue. Seiko QC is just straight up laughable at this point.

The blue is nice!!! Wish they did a ceramic bezel and lose the minute markers on the bezel and just keep them at every 5 mins. Overall they look good.

It's a beautiful watch, but for me it's all about the movement, is the movement any good because the last one was trash

6 or 3 o’clock

Maybe they listened to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I've been complaining about that damn wave bump for years! It's irritating.

The old one is SPB147.

I hate so much seiko because now I will spend money to buy it

63?

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

Yea it's the nickname

Really nice background and setup, this is a good step up. But lose the gloves, c’mon man.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

the gloves are there to not distract with dirty finger nails or cuts.

Great looking watches! But... Pin and collar bracelet? For that price? I am getting way less of a Seikoholic by the day tbh. Latest Seiko-ish watches I have are all ugly builds from Aliexpress, and they give me just as much joy for about 1/15th of the price of a new Seiko. And that includes bracelets of the same or better quality should I opt for one. And those ugly builds still have mechanical movements of Seiko making, and I can swap them for about $30 the day they give up - if they ever do give up. As I wear a watch always, every day, year round, no matter the activity, I have come to a point in life where I all in a sudden do not wish to wear my SPB151 Willard as I know I will eventually destroy if against a rock, the underside of my car, at a construction site or by just being active outdoors doing "stuff". To me, Seiko has in a way lost a bit of its soul to the markets in a sense they are more and more opting to go expensive at the same time when makers like Steeldive, Seestern etc etc are cranking out watches in the $75-$300 range that are pretty much everything you could ever wish for both in looks and quality. Yes, sure they are rip offs but you still get stainless, sapphire, mechanical, and like I just said most of the time bracelets of similar or better quality.

@polygoncoco

Ай бұрын

Pin and collar is better. It’s more secure and you don’t have to use loctite. Or worry about messing up the threading or head of the screws etc. + can allow bracelets to be much thinner (even if seiko ones arent)

Maledetta data

Done with Seikos.

Nice watch but far too expensive - should be nearer £600-700.

@Apex_Apeq

15 күн бұрын

I suggest U make your own watch sir

To expensive, no signed crown and quality control issues will stop me buying this

@fethryduck

Ай бұрын

The accuracy with Seiko Watches is like a Lottery.

I’ll get a ball for that price

@Not-a-bot222

Ай бұрын

Ball to me, is like longines for a lot of people. They just “almost” make a good watch every time

Owned a spb143 before and never again. The watch was pretty but wore heavy, movement sucked and bezel clicker broke. It was was replaced by the Baltic aquascaphe, and it's just better in every way for less $.

Will the new movement be as abysmally imprecise as the 6r35? $200 watches with ETAs are more precise

@johnnguyen385

Ай бұрын

I wonder this, too. I’ve had over half a dozen 6R models and every single one performed erratically, even after regulations by professional watchmakers-one watchmaker even said that the regulation in the 6R won’t last more than a few days. Interestingly, my Seikos with the 4R calibre are more precise and consistent, and are superior after simple regulation that can be done at home.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

I'm guessing yes its fundamentally the same as the 35. But I'll keep an eye out.

Fuck that date seriously

The only thing holding back Seiko watches now is the 6r series movement. Can’t wait for them to ditch it all and bring a 28.8k bph movement

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

some presage have a 6R with 28,800vph. But yes they need to bring the new 6L down to this price point!

@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy

Ай бұрын

@@EscapementWatch did you own any 6l series watches? Would like to see a review from someone who has experience with them.

@EscapementWatch

Ай бұрын

I just sold my king seiko with 6L I owned for a couple years. It was fantastic never over +6seconds a day. I will be buying a new 62MAS with the 6L either this year or next. Just need to decide which one.

They completely ruined this watch by putting “Automatic three days”on the dial. Why?!?!? What a stupid comment to have on a watch dial. Not to mention putting the date window in no man’s land again. 🤦🏻

still prefer the 2020 release. Date window in better symmetric position. Love my SPB143