Seiko SPB143 vs Tudor Black Bay 58 | | 2 Years of Ownership Honest Review
In this video, I will review my Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue and my Seiko SPB143J1. I want to share my experience of owning these Tudor and Seiko for two years already. I bought them both new from Authorized Dealers, and I have them in my collection and my daily rotation. I traveled with diver watches from Tudor and Seiko, and now I want to share my experience and my thoughts about these two popular watches. I will show you the similarities between watches and how they are different. Which one is worth the money? Let's find out.
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The fact that a Seiko is being compared to something 4x its price means it wins the comparison.
I adjusted my Seiko SPB143 in 5 positions to +5/-4. Never loses time, never gains time. It's just perfect. Just glad I never had to spend stupid money on a Tudor.
@zacksmith4906
4 ай бұрын
How do you do this?
@jorelkrypto7475
4 ай бұрын
@@zacksmith4906 timegrapher.
@user-ig6nu4oo5p
Ай бұрын
Buy a time grapher and you can do it to with some practice and basic watch adjustment understanding.
@marshallh9
12 күн бұрын
Really. You’ll have to share your secret. My experience of the positional accuracy has been the opposite of what you have achieved. I can dial in great results when the watch is level with zero beat error and good amplitude but tilt it off the horizontal and the accuracy and amplitude drops off a cliff. I have to adjust it fast on the level to counter it running slow in any vertical position.
I went with the Seiko SPB143. The price was right. I bought it at Vaughan Mills watch store. They gave me 200 dollars off. If I was going to spend 5 thousand Canadian I would buy a Seiko with a spring drive.
@jdlnz9484
2 ай бұрын
I live in the Woodbridge area and was keen on trying one on before purchasing the seiko (as i have large wrists). If you dont mind me asking, which store gave you that great deal?
seiko movements are ridiculously easy to regulate , escapement and watch has a video on it its really easy , i have 2 seikos with 4R movements running 3 seconds a day over . my alpinist is at -1 . as long as you dont have shaky hands id recommend learning .
@AvidUTuber
4 ай бұрын
I downloaded a timegrapher app which told me my watches range from -11/+9. It'll be nice to brave regulating them myself
@marcblasco
13 күн бұрын
@@AvidUTuber what is the name of the app? thanks
I’ve owned both and loved both, if I were to buy either again I’d be tempted to get a Seiko and pay for it to be regulated properly as that was my main gripe with it. The Tudor stayed on the bracelet and could easily be a one watch that rarely comes off the wrist but the Seiko had something special and was a better strap monster with the flatter lugs. I remember taking it on holiday to Crete, with the bracelet, a leather strap, a black rubber strap and 2-3 natos. It felt great mixing it up each day and night, really versatile piece. Ultimately for me the accuracy was annoying with the Seiko though and it stopped it being a regular daily watch.
@daveLin104
8 ай бұрын
What do you have now instead ?
@daveLin104
8 ай бұрын
How did the bb wear compared to the 143 ?
@bigbodykarate6403
8 ай бұрын
seiko movements are ridiculously easy to regulate , escapement and watch has a video on it its really easy , i have 2 seikos with 4R movements running 3 seconds a day over . my alpinist is at -1 . as long as you dont have shaky hands id recommend learning .
@jimmason8502
8 ай бұрын
Dude you were on vacation so how important was timekeeping anyway?
@daveLin104
8 ай бұрын
@bigbodykarate6403 Hi is the 6R35 as easy to regulate as the 4R
Excellent comparison, thank you from a Seiko owner (on a Seiko budget)
I wear my bb58 all the time. It is timeless, classy and simple enough to be an only one watch collection. Great video
@OneManReviews
11 ай бұрын
Thanks. I truly think that BB58 is still one of the best models from Tudor. Can't wait to see what they will bring us next year. Or maybe something even sooner.
@songoku-jx3cb
11 ай бұрын
I disagree i think a diver looks tacky on a suit you should have atleast one clean dial watch to wear on suits diver will put down the look as a whole when you wear something formal I think something like a datejust is perfect 1 watch
@codys5727
11 ай бұрын
@@songoku-jx3cb you're welcome to your opinion. I rarely dress formal so it's good enough for me
@Ferien7
10 ай бұрын
@@songoku-jx3cbdress divers look good with suits, but toolier watches would clash with formal wear.
@songoku-jx3cb
10 ай бұрын
@@Ferien7 no they don't they look sporty the bezel doesnt merge with formal wear
Not sure where in Canada but any recommended place to get a automatic watch regulated around Greater Toronto Area?
My 62 MAS 140th anniversary edition came with 39seconds slow per day error, I sent it back to Seiko to be regulated and it came back 10.3 seconds per day slow!!!! Such a pity as it really is a great watch. I have 5 Ali Express NH35 powered watches and they all run about 5 seconds fast. Buck up Seiko! Very Helpful review.
Thx for the great content. In my experience, both have a place in one’s collection. The BB58 is a great daily that does not look out of place while ‘dressed up’. But at 1/4 the cost and with it’s hardened coating, I don’t think twice about wearing the SPB143 when I’m expecting to knock it around for the day doing chores. The accuracy of the BB58 is amazing (+2) while the SPB143 is, as you say, way off. So they are really two different watches. Plus, with both, you have both blue and grey colors to work with in how you dress up or down.
@OneManReviews
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. I agree that both can perfectly coexist in one collection and that SPB143 could be a great "beater" watch. I also wear it often when I do some house chores :)
I own the BB58 blue paired with the Uncleseiko jubilee bracelet and it feels unique, I love this one very muchhh
@OneManReviews
10 ай бұрын
BB58 on jubilee looks awesome.
Excellent review. I had the Spb143 and loved "the look" beautiful watch but the movement was very disappointing. I bought it new from AD, was sent back after 18 months to be regulated, problems continued. I ended up selling it. I would by it again in a heartbeat if movement was more reliable.
@OneManReviews
6 ай бұрын
I feel your pain. I hope Seiko will improve their movements.
I own the BB58 and love it. I use it almost everyday. I also own the Seiko GMT Blue and Black. Love it but for no particularly reason I find myself not using it very often. Cheers.
@OneManReviews
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel like sometimes we love Seiko watches for no particular reason. Just because :)
I own both. Seiko 143 wears a bit larger. Accuracy on the seiko not great. If worn 24 / 7 mine runs about minus 20 seconds a day. If taken off for any period of time it starts dropping time like crazy. Generally I set the spb a couple of minutes fast and wear as daily beater Mon to Fri. By Friday it’s spot on!
@OneManReviews
10 ай бұрын
Too many people have issues with the Seiko accuracy. I actually do the same with my SPB143 when wearing it.
I’ve owned both, and there really is no comparison quality wise. Looks wise, is the only realistic comparison to be had. Both are fantastic looking watches.
Thanks for this comparison. I always enjoy your content as we have similar tastes in watches. I have the SPB155 and got very lucky with COSC tolerances and no QC issues. But as you know it's priced much more competitively than the SPB143, especially at a discount. Despite my good experience, I'd personally hesitate to buy the SPB143 when there are other great options at that price as you mentioned. Currently longing for the BB54, though! Take care!
@OneManReviews
11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your kind words. Glad you like my videos. I actually also have a Baby Alpinist only mine is Blue (SPB157). No quality control issues but the movement is also "behaving". I would say that with discount or pre-owned a SPB143 is a good proposition but at the same time there are other solid options on the market. The BB54 is fantastic. I am hoping that Tudor will introduce other dial colours with this line sometime soon.
@Ferien7
10 ай бұрын
What great options would you recommend instead of the SPB143?
Honestly for the money the Longines Hydroconquest is probably a better deal than both these watches, but in saying that...the Seiko design is very attractive.
Have exact same issues with my spb143. Poor timekeeping, seems to vary greatly each day. Bezel is also off just like yours. No more Seiko for me, its very overpriced for the quality. Also, not seen this mentioned much, its very top heavy...Perhaps having a steel bezel and the height of the watch. Great comparison, save your money and go for the Tudor if you ask me...
@thebeardedone6741
8 ай бұрын
How much did you spend on the seiko?
I really like my spb147 but it gains 20 seconds a day. I took it to the store I got it from and they said they can’t regulate it because it’s still under warranty and it’s technically within specifications for the movement
@OneManReviews
8 ай бұрын
Yes the accuracy of that Seiko movement disappointing
Я бы все-таки рекомендовал решать проблему с сервисом, а не мучиться годами с неидеальными часами. Недавно получил из Японии редкий Speedmaster, секундная стрелка хронографа была слегка отклонена от центра (но в пределах заводского допуска). Сначала думал забить, потом отнёс по гарантии в офис Swatch Group, сделали за неделю, получил скидку от продавца за неудобства. Так и здесь, поднять тему точности механизма и центровки безеля - и пусть лечат! И часы бы за свои деньги понравились бы)
I own the SPB 143 and love it . I paid $1000 u.s . No tax
@OneManReviews
9 ай бұрын
How is the accuracy of your model?
I love Tudor BB but hate the fake rivets...why?
Thanks for this excellent review! Would love to see a SPB143 with a high accuracy quartz movement.
@OneManReviews
4 ай бұрын
Thanks you. I would prefer if Seiko would improve their mechanical movement.
@cameronmartin719
4 ай бұрын
Meh, I don't find mechanical movements worth getting unless the watch has a sapphire caseback and it's particularly striking to look at it. Quartz is better in every way besides presentation. A truly modern 62mas tool watch should be using quartz anyways@@OneManReviews
I own both of them, and I prefer the Seiko. That said, I do not quite like the weight of the Seiko and prefer the wearability of the Tudor.
Well I believe the contest between these two designs is unfair. When you pay more for an item, it usually means it offers better quality or performance and of course between these two the Tudor wins. On the the other hand, for a few more dollars I could have a spring drive. If your going to compare a Mercedes to anything, you don't compare it to a Toyota, you compare to a Lexus.
I also have complaints about the Seiko 6R movements. In the past 8 yrs I've owned over 20 Seikos. Of them, 4 with the 6R, and 9 with the 4R. All of my 6Rs are highly inconsistent. On the edge of the specs or outside of it by a good bit, and vary greatly if worn, or sitting in watch box, or winder. And they even vary from week to week 🤷. And all mine with the "entry level" 4Rs have been great, always consistent. All within +/-15 secs/day, and many less than +/-10 (some 4Rs even within COSC). So I'm a bit frustrated in the 6Rs costing 2-3x the price, and that's what's mainly offered in the Seiko's that may interest me. Also there's been no real QC issues with any of mine except one. All this is disappointing because I really like my SPB147 & SPB213. They're some of my favorite watches to wear. 😐
@AvidUTuber
4 ай бұрын
Seikos are easy to regulate from what I hear
Am I wrong or the BB58 bezel is misaligned?
@OneManReviews
11 ай бұрын
No it’s fine.
Both are pretty but only one is a true nice watch. Tudor by a mile. Not in the same class at all.
@OneManReviews
2 ай бұрын
If Seiko would improve their movement it would make the watch well worth the retail.
I got this seiko for less than £900 and imo nothing comes close to this for that money
My Seiko SPB143 is +2 sec per day out the box. You sure you haven't magnetised the movement?
@OneManReviews
2 ай бұрын
It's great that your Seiko runs that accurate.
1000 euros a lot of money for a unnecessary item that one struggles to tolerate, outch. Wish seiko had a incentive to make these watches better
Seriously?! Preown Bb58 in “very good” condition, full set are selling at $2800-2900, negotiable. 925 are selling around low 3k. Tudor is constantly cannibalizing itself with new hype models, current bel-du-jour is the 54. Comparing a watch that’s retailed 30-35%to another is disappointing. Even then, similarly worn spb143 are going for 900, losing about 3-400. Putting it squarely in the beater/daily driver with low service/maintenance cost. It’s like comparing fit n finish in a Civic TypeS vs BMW m340. Seriously?!
The question is black bay 58 or black bay 54?
@OneManReviews
10 ай бұрын
I like the blue version better. If Tudor make 54 different colour versions I will be considering it.
@Ferien7
10 ай бұрын
@@OneManReviews but aside from color, which do you like better
@OneManReviews
10 ай бұрын
@@Ferien7 Hard to say. I still enjoy my BB58 a lot, but I also want to compare these two side by side to see.
Accuracy is ridiculously bad. I'd rather have a seastar with a powermatic inside
@OneManReviews
12 күн бұрын
Seastar is a very nice watch.
As much as it is a very clear fast that the Tudor is overpriced (regardless of it being very valuable overall), don't you ever compare a Tudor with a Tag Heuer :-) Tag Heuer is garbage... not even worth thinking about spending money on, unless you get some silly no brainer discount and you just buy it as a beater. most people think that "Tag Heuer" is the same quality like the older "Heuer" brand used to be... far from true! it's almost borderline with premium priced fashion watches the Seiko "62MAS" Re-Issue is IMHO well worth the money, only bummer is of course the stupid Lume part they have added at 3 o'clock to all watches produced after 2020 (that was done in order to maintain compliance with ISO which means the watch is still certified as a professional diver), I wonder if they have fixed the movement running too slow issues with the slightly later editions of this watch (e.g. SPB147..)
@OneManReviews
9 ай бұрын
I actually have a different opinion on Tudor and Seiko. I think that Tudor is worth the money given the quality, specs, size, and design. Seiko is overpriced considering quality problems and poor movement performance. I also have TAG in my collection and I think it is a decent watch.
@antonv5488
9 ай бұрын
Tag is well known for being a garbage, no news here. The news here that they make efforts to break out of that image, as that market is dying out. Stay tuned for new models, including ones branded as "Heuer" only.
@davideyt1242
9 ай бұрын
@@antonv5488 I wish! I doubt that "Tag Heuer" can ever go back to what the original brand was, now that they are owned by a corporation who made them into an overpriced fashion watch brand where you get a watch with a total value of about 300 euros and pay over a grand for it. would be lovely to see a genuine re-production of a "Heuer" Carrera chronograph (with a movement reproduction or a similar one) available to buy
@paulbugoni2846
8 ай бұрын
Yes they are starting to get back into investing in their products as opposed to simply marketing crappy watches @@antonv5488
But the Seiko is a prettier watch😍
@OneManReviews
7 ай бұрын
Seiko is very nice but I like the BB58 design better :)
Seiko movement are easy to regulate. It not a big problem bruh, U can do yourself at home. Seiko is with 1200 dollars price tag & Tudor with 4200 price tag. Its 3 times cheaper than the BB58. Ohhhh God. why is it still not worth buying with the price? 😂😂😂
@OneManReviews
Ай бұрын
And void the warranty of the watch by opening the case by yourself? It's not a cheap watch for 1200.
100% polished sides of the Tudor looks kinda flimsy 100 dollar Casio.
The SPB143 is over priced. If i cannot afford BB58, I will still not choose SPB143 as at that price there are many watches that are cheaper and better.
@OneManReviews
11 ай бұрын
I think that with a discount or pre-owned the SPB143 is a good watch. But considering Seiko issues there are safer choices on the market for sure.
@Ferien7
10 ай бұрын
Which better and cheaper watches are you talking about
@KC-bv9kf
10 ай бұрын
@@Ferien7i agree. hyperbole is strong in this video
Your compairing seiko to a 4x price ( tudor. ) What wrong with you.? Hahaha
@OneManReviews
7 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video? I am not comparing them by price.
Какое тиссо,чудило,что ты советуеш?бред откровенный,проблемы с часами терпеть?окаких проблемах ты говориш?
No contest the Seiko movement is trash.
@OneManReviews
10 ай бұрын
This particular one seems to be.
Seiko movements are junk. Sorry :/
Ilia kvalito ne estas malsupera al tiuj grandaj luksaj varoj. La fortikeco kaj atento al detaloj rivalas kun la originalaj dezajnistsakoj kaj mi ne povas kredi kiom mi ?paris. ?i estas la perfekta akcesora?o por iu ajn moda knabino! Mi certas, ke mi rea?etos iujn aliajn stilojn kaj kolorojn ?NKUWAN por kongrui kun miaj vesta?oj kaj ?uoj!
Love my sbdc101. Got it for $700 straight from Japan 🫶
@OneManReviews
9 ай бұрын
Wondering what is the accuracy and the bezel situation with your Japanese version.