I wish Dreamcast emulators also emulated the sounds of the DC, all the CD sounds and beep when powering it on.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

That would be a fun little bonus for sure

@ghostito

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, the Dreamcast experience is empty without those sounds.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

And resetting the clock. I could 100% desolder and add in a fresh battery. But I gotta see that clock screen

@ghostito

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Oh yes, part of my Dreamcast ritual is having my phone at hand before turning it on in order to set the clock right.

@SRC267

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica also the machines loud fan

Looking forward to the upcoming episodes. I admit I'm a dirty little fanboy when it comes to Dreamcast. 😆

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Haha who isn’t?

The Dreamcast's 8MB of video RAM was absolutely massive at the time. In comparison, the PS2 only had 4MB of VRAM. However, the Dreamcast used very slow 128-bit SDRAM while the PS2 used a crazy 2560-bit bus with embedded DRAM. So while the Dreamcast typically stored better, higher-resolution textures, the PS2 made up for it by having a massive fill-rate advantage. I think Sega's method was probably a lot easier to develop for though considering you could just load the textures directly into VRAM while on the PS2 they were typically stored in system RAM. It's kind of interesting, because from a technical standpoint, the Dreamcast vs PS2 is rather the opposite situation of the Saturn vs PSX, with the Dreamcast being the much simpler design and much easier to develop for. The Dreamcast really shows that Sega learned a lot from the complex Saturn architecture. And Naomi was a hell of a great arcade board!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

They learned a ton from the Saturn but sadly still couldn’t make it work for them. Such a bummer Drramcast was the last console

@rars0n

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Yeah. I will always consider the Dreamcast as going head-to-head with the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox, but the reality is that it was probably a little too early and a little too underpowered. PowerVR graphics were a fine choice back then, but I really think the 3dfx solution could have been better, and maybe could have even saved two companies at the same time. I'm not sure the Hitachi SH-4 was the way to go, either, although I'm not sure what "Blackbelt" was supposed to use as a CPU. I think I heard an Intel x86 CPU was being floated as an option, but I'm not sure. My point being, I think Sega had a history of trying to iterate on hardware far too often, as seen with the Sega CD, 32X, Neptune, Pluto, and all the other different hardware combinations they had going in addition to the Saturn itself. The home console market was moving so much slower than the arcade market was back in those days, and Sega seemed like an arcade hardware leader, so perhaps they just didn't recognize that distinction? Additionally, I think Sega was one of the most innovative companies in the early 90's. If you've ever watched any of Jenovi's videos, he has a lot of great ones that talk about a lot of stuff I never knew Sega was delving into, including why the Saturn 3D controller was detachable from its cord (I didn't even realize that until I watched his video). They were ambitious to a fault, and the disagreements between SOJ and SOA didn't help. All of that said, I still think the Dreamcast architecture was great, and the console was ground-breaking in many ways when it was released. I worked in retail in 1999 and 2000 and it was a shame to watch people marvel at the Dreamcast, only to hear them say "I'm just going to wait for the Playstation 2." Hype was that huge. And I don't really blame people for brand loyalty, but the Dreamcast actually sold me on Sega. I was convinced they were doing everything right this time. I went from owning all Nintendo consoles to buying a Dreamcast at launch.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Sega basically was its own worst enemy. They made such strange decisions sometimes that seemed to just spite themselves. They threw a better, more power platform away with Blackbelt just because Sega of Japan didn’t like Sega of America.

@rars0n

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica I agree!

@MH-yp6wg

3 ай бұрын

In practice, PS2 and Dreamcast had a similar amount of memory to store textures. Only the memory architecture is different - PS2 uses it's RD-RAM as unified RAM and transfers the textures those 16 parallel pixel pipelines currently work on via the GIF-Bus to the eDRAM-Cache, while Dreamcast uses a traditional Main-RAM/VRAM architecture. Depending on the geometrical complexity of the scene, Dreamcast has about 3 to 4 MB VRAM to store textures. If you factor in VQ-texture compresson, that is about 15 to 20 MB. But compression is lossy, so you lose sharpness, colors and details in the process. If you reserve half of the PS2's 32 MB RD-RAM for textures, you will get a similar amount of textures at similar quality.

Agreed our DC cases are super fragile. 😏 crazy that packaging decision was made after we had pal playstation cases. 🤪

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I mean they break if you so much look at them the wrong way! "You did not treat me with utmost reverence! Now I shall crumble!" lolol

@amerigocosta7452

3 жыл бұрын

They needed a form factor that would allow multilanguage manuals, sometimes six or seven different languages. A normal jewel case wouldn't do it. A lot of PAL manuals are beefy but quite devoid of information because of that. Nothing beats the early Saturn PAL games in crappiness tho: two pieces of plastic glued together by a piece of cardboard, they really self-destroy just sitting on a shelf in the wrong way.

@thegreatjonzini

3 жыл бұрын

@@amerigocosta7452 yeah definitely, I just wish it was a bit more elegant and sturdy

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

The amount of languages they fit in the manuals is staggering

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I like the color and design but the durability is as bad as Sega CD / US Sega Saturn cases

Ahh, the memories of powering up the Dreamcast at 3am, forgetting the volume is still set really high. lol

@electronash

3 жыл бұрын

Or trying a Dreamcast disk in a CD player for the first time. "THIS, IS A DREAMCAST DISK!..."

@electronash

3 жыл бұрын

5:13 Dayum - could the chip on that Hikaru be reballed, or did it rip the solder bumps of the chip itself?

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

hahaha

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Such a nice voice!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

could be reballed but I don't have the skills for that type of repair. V specialized equipment needed

Awesome video, topic and voice. Seriously, you have a crazy good ASMR voice, love your vids haha.

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

haha thanks. Appreciate that!

i have a naomi 1 on the way and i can't wait to play around with it 😁

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy it when it arrives. Such a fun system

Amazing video, so interesting to see a breakdown and comparison of both bits of Hardwear. The Dreamcast is my favourite console so very much looking forward to the next 15 episodes 😎🐴

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Next 18 episodes actually. I added more because I was having too much fun making them 😂

@harveyjones4002

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Solid! Well you'll get lots of support from the DC community :)

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed they do good views!

Dreamcast fidelity was so much better! I had N64, neighbor had PS2, and another neighbor had Dreamcast. We played all of them as kids, but Dreamcast blew everything else out of the water in terms of visuals IMO

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. It had a super clean look. PS2 was awesome but it always felt a bit muddy

@ghostito

3 жыл бұрын

I recently bought an HDMI adapter and the quality on a modern TV is amazing, it looks extremely good, sharp image, vibrant colors... Just only the colors used in most of Dreamcast games make them look better than current ones.

Cant wait for this! :-D The Dreamcast is such a great console.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

It really is my favorite 3D retro console

I'm excited to see the Hikaru games. Thanks for the video bud

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

The Hikaru stuff will be fun because it’s a bit of a mess lol

i glad i found your channel. i wish dc controller has more buttons and another analog stick. Apart from that it awesome and ahead of it times

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it was a good middle ground controller. Second analog would have been awesome

3:35 agree. When the cord got loose i have never once had a thought that hey this is pretty handy that the cord comes out of the back of this controller :)

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Always wanted a Naomi, here’s hoping it happens soon!!!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

They usually aren’t too much $$ just because they were so widespread

Look forward to the series!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Me too and I already know what’s coming lol

Look forward to this series!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Should be a lot of fun

There were so many great games released for the Dreamast and its arcade brethren. I have so many great memories of playing with friends as well as some dorm-wide tournaments with Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter 3tb, Street Fighter Alpha 3, SF3: Third Strike and Double Impact, Power Stone 1 & 2, Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, Mark of the Wolves, Marvel vs Capcom & MvC2, NBA 2K1, Guantlet Legends, Wacky Races, Dead or Alive 2, etc, etc. Not to mention all the great games on the Naomi/Naomi2/Atomiswave/Hikaru/System-SP that didn't come home to the DC like Ninja Assault, Planet Harriers (loved that one, especially), and tons of others. It's always too hard to narrow down my actual "favorite game system of all time"; however, Dreamcast is definitely in the top 5 with the N64, Genesis, GBA, PS2, and NES. I just had so much fun with the system. Yeah, the Dreamcast's controller was always polarizing among my friends. The cord coming out of the bottom was strange and that cord could have been a couple of feet longer. Sega only went with one analog stick, where two would have been preferable for some games. They regressed to 4 face buttons, while having stuck with 6 with the Saturn 3D controller. And, though I like how things play with it, the Dreamcast d-pad was certainly rough on the thumb due to the sharp edges and hard material. But, even with the issues, I really liked how the Dreamcast controller felt in the hands; the VMUs were a neat idea; having 2 VMU slots per controller was nice; and I liked how the analog stick, triggers, and buttons all felt. Even though I a full complement of 4 official controllers, I ended up buying 4 editional Mad Catz controllers that had a non-blister-inducing d-pad and 6 face buttons to lessen my friends, roommate, and dorm players' complaints (even though I felt the d-pad on those were subpar and so rarely ever used them myself). At least you could use the DC keyboard and mouse with stuff like UT and Quake3 when you didn't need 4-player splitscreen (and one friend and I play massive amounts of Typing of the Dead too). Sadly, I don't think there was anything Sega could have really done that was financially viable for them to compete with the juggernaut that Sony had become in the mainstream game market not to mention the massive hype-train that had built up for the PS2. Even though few early, first-gen PS2 games looked better than many of the more technically impressive DC games-with many early games on PS2 arguably looking worse thanks to the clarity provided by the DC VGA box and the PS2 's 4MB video RAM versus the DC's 8MB and vector quantization texture compression-with many early PS2 titles not having an on-screen polygon budget outside of the DC's capabilities, it was still obvious as developers got familiar with PS2 as well as when X-Box and GameCube arrived, that the Dreamcast would not have been able to keep up when polygon budgets went up an order of magintude (take Grand Prix Challenge on PS2, where just two-three F1 models at the highest LOD would be pushing the entire per-frame polygon budget of the DC at 60fps let alone the rest of the relatively-high-detailed geometry). If Sega had the financial resources to compete, they would have needed to iterate on the Dreamcast within a few short years with a mid-generation console and would always be playing that game of having to compete with earlier technology. It was a tough situation to be in, but at least we got an amazing system with great games out of it even if Sega couldn't hang in the home hardware game very long in the shadow of the PS2.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Soon I’ll have a video with my “idea” on how Sega could have survived in the 90s and competed against Sony. It’s some definite fan nostalgia stuff lol But yeah picking a favorite Dreamcast game is impossible. It’s just filled with some of my favorite games of all time. But I do think had Sega made one choice differently they could have beaten Sony to market with a powerful console that shipped with a DVD player...because the console they could have bought and shipped as Dreamcast is sitting right next to me :) Should be a fun vid when it comes out!

@shotgunl

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica That should be an interesting video

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Real theory crafting lol

@ghostito

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica That would be really interesting, I love alternative scenarios, specially about Sega. I think it would've been difficult for them compete with Sony and the PS2 after the huge worldwide success the PSX was, had Sega not been in such economical situation the Dreamcast coul've offered more great and unique games that could've competed in it's own way against more powerful consoles. And yeah, maybe another early next generation system could've helped, specially with the Game Cube and Xbox being released so late in the cycle.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I will start working on that video soon. Still just an idea in my head

Thank you for making this video.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I am here for :) love making them

Excited to check it out!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Should be a fun time

That is one clean looking NAOMI!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks. It barely seems used

How am I only now seeing this? Time for a 3 am can't sleep binge

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

Haha must’ve missed it!

Great video.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate it :) 18 more coming!

DC is pride of place in my console room, naomi 1 & 2 take the top spot in my cab :D

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I need to pick up a NAOMI 2 still

You learned something new every day, I don't think I knew that the dreamcast controllers could be connected to a Naomi board I wonder if you could force dreamcast games to run on a Naomi board...

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

someone just got a new NAOMI SDK to dump last month? or maybe Jan...that may help with that

Can't wait for the rest of the series, to me the Dreamcast is the ultimate game console, I would've liked see some Naomi 2 ports for it, I'll always be curious about how Virtua Fighter 4 could've looked, maybe less polygons than the PS2 version, but the excellent video output coul've make it look better.

@ghostito

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, and the trailer is super fun, straight to the heart of any Dreamcast lover.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked the trailer. They are wholly unnecessary but most of the things I do are so 🤣

@ghostito

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Nothing with Space Channel 5 music is unnecessary.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Maybe the most unnecessary thing I’ve done was the intro to the Dracula series I did. Took an entire day to shoot and most people hated it 🤣 but I still love it

Hooray!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Hooray indeed!

I can't wait for this XD

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

18 more tuesdays :) tons of fun stuff coming

7:25 The PAL region cases are the most beautiful game cases ever made. And i instantly noticed how fragile they were and i was always as careful as i could ever be and the best preserved case only has one pin broken :)

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

They might look nice but they break in a strong breeze!

@lilmisssandi

2 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica ated them being in uk they broke sitting in the shelf,usa one much better n took up less room

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

I swear the pal cases just degrade over time sitting around doing nothing

@epicon6

2 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica it must be the weight of dust falling on them..

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

Light breezes just breaking plastic 😂

1:30 the incredible video quantity is due to pure 32-bit color pipeline used throughout the PowerVR GPU. The extra pixel depth gives so much headroom for colors to be mixed and converted without hitting a mathematical limit. That is why DC is significantly cleaner than all other platforms. BTW, if my memory is right, I believe PowerVR was partially owned by NEC at the time

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I think PowerVR was wholly NEC?

I have a Japanese DC and GDEMU on the way right now! Many of the games have upgraded releases on later consoles, but what are some good releases that are either only on DC or have the best version on DC? VGA CRTs all the way, i even have a GBS Control im building for other consoles to convert RGB or YPbPr to VGA lol

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

DOA 2 is def an example of a game better on DC then PS2.

Looking forward to the new series! Can you compare if there are any differences for Ikaruga between DC and Naomi?

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Ikaruga shows up :)

I love the Dreamcast through and through, but I am one of those people who doesn't like the controller all that much. Mostly my fault, my hands are just too big and the shape of the handles is too cramped for me. Luckily Retro Fighters came to my rescue, now I can enjoy my Dreamcast even more. I also love how the retro community is always making homebrew and indie games on the Dreamcast even to this day. Some of the coolest stuff came from indie developers who love the Dreamcast. Looking forward to the series, especially about the Naomi because I'm debating on getting one to use with my Supergun once I know how to convert it to JAMMA.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think my 5’6” person was perfectly suited for basically every controller ever lol

@SkyScourgeGod

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica rofl, lucky you my dude. XD

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Haha lucky to be 5’6”? 🤣

YES!!!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Haha glad you liked it

My ears still ring from a dead battery VMU start up sound from back in 1999

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I never change the battery because I’d miss the beep

@charliehunt6336

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica enjoying it makes you a psychopath. I guess I'll still watch the series though....

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Lolol

@charliehunt6336

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Also this was a video I made for the 20th anniversary of the system. Probably the only system I have an emotional connection to: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hatqydGAYcmYqqQ.html

I wonder if they will ever get naomi games running on the Sega System SP. I love how compact it is on the single tray with the integrated i/o and CF reader. I am tempted to buy one because they are so cheap on YAJ, but i would only be able to play Giant Tetris on it if modded

@VideoGameEsoterica

7 ай бұрын

I haven’t really heard of anyone trying to get it running. Did I miss something?

@robbyrobot3303

7 ай бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica no recent breakthroughs. I was just reading forum posts saying it would be possible to get the SP games running on Naomi like they did with AW, but not worth the trouble when so many use proprietary controls. Then a lot of people wondering if the opposite could be done considering it's so close to the naomi in specs

@VideoGameEsoterica

7 ай бұрын

ahh I see. That would be a fun time

I love the *features* of the Dreamcast controller, like the VMU and the analog triggers, and the analog stick is pretty robust especially compared to the N64 stick, although it doesn't have the nice rubber padding of later controllers. However, I find the Saturn 3D controller to be WAY more comfortable to use. Comparatively, the Dreamcast controller has two major design flaws that really hurt it: 1. The angle of the controller grips, and 2. The seams running along the side of the controller. The Dreamcast controller grips are rather oddly angled inward towards the bottom, exactly opposite of the Playstation controller. (Admittedly, the Playstation controller was my favorite controller when it released, perfected with the Dual Shock) This feels fine at first, but what it does is force you to hold your hands at sort of an awkward angle, with your wrists bent outwards. The Playstation controller, meanwhile, keeps your wrists straight in a much more natural position. The seams that run down the side of the controller are absolutely cavernous. You don't really notice them at first, until you play for a long time, especially a game that leads to a tight grip on the controller, like a racing game. The sharp edges of the plastic start to really dig into your hands and it can be rather painful. Both of these flaws were never apparent to me until I started playing heavy gaming sessions. Try playing a several-hour long race of Test Drive Le Mans, and both flaws make themselves apparent. Couple that with constantly holding the triggers for gas and brakes, and after about 4 hours I felt like was risking permanent claw fingers. And then there's the other problem: it's got two fewer buttons than the Saturn controller. This wouldn't have been such a big deal had games not started to really take advantage of all 8 available buttons around that time, and with the lack of a second set of shoulder buttons, it quickly felt like a mistake to me. I love the Dreamcast a lot. It's definitely one of my top 3 favorite video game consoles ever and the overall quality of the library is pretty much second-to-none. But the controller flaws are still a drag for me to this day. I need to get myself one of the Brawler DC controllers as they look a LOT more comfortable to use. I just can't play it very long using the standard controller.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I think the DC controllers just happen to be the perfect size for my hand. I’m probably in the minority thinking that though

@rars0n

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Part of my problem is that I tend to grip controllers quite tightly. I'm the kind of person that really pounds on a button when something tense happens on screen. So I think I over-grip. Any controller will cause me some discomfort if I play long enough. However, the Dreamcast controller is the one that bothers me the most, and seems to exhibit a few problems that most don't. Other than those things, I really don't mind the controller at all. Holding it casually in my hands, it feels fine and is a nice shape. I'm looking forward to seeing how the Brawler DC feels in comparison. Edit: Other than the PSX controller, I think my absolute favorite classic controller is the SNES. It actually feels better to hold than the PSX controller since it only has two shoulder buttons. I feel like that's also a benefit of the DC controller. I don't like having to use my two middle fingers to hit L2 and R2. I end up using my index fingers for them because it feels more natural.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I don’t think I’ve ever found a controller I hate. Hell I don’t even hate the Jaguar controller

@rars0n

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Hahaha! Well, to be clear, I don't actually HATE the DC controller!

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Haha no I get that. I just mean I’m very forgiving of controllers as I’ve never found one I didn’t like. Well except for the FM Towns (non-Marty) pad. Thing has sharp plastic. I cut myself on the damn thing!

Dreamcast run games @480p and very sharp and colorful but at the same time many games have poor textures ( like code Veronica ) and relatively low polygonal count.

Can't hold the Dreamcast controller anymore, hurts my hands. Love the system.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

At least alternatives exist to the standard controller

Do all optical drives have that frustrating calibration screw? When off by a hair’s width you can go from pristine gaming to games not even being recognized (commercial games definitely included). I’ve got a disc based collection and 3 of 4 of my DC’s need *constant* tweaking of the screw to run! Does the glue that locks the laser in its exact prime spot deteriorate over time? Any recommendations to slow my descent into insanity every time the stupid screw gets jostled? Anyone one?

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. You need to dial the pot in with a potentiometer reading the voltage and ground so you can get it to an exact voltage reading

Would be cool if you can do comparisons between the dreamcast vs naomi., or naomi 2 vs atomiswave and so on., or xbox vs dreamcast etc.,

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll keep it in mind

clear blue VMU. obviously.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

haha why not

❤️

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

:)

Is there ANY way to get DC games to play on the Naomi?

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

Not currently no

funny how they managed to squeeze out 1Gflops vs 720Mflops from the same cpu and gpu on naomi vs dc. they probably increased the number of cores and parallelism on the gpu to obtain that?

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never seen details on HOW they got the extra juice out of it. Like an actual scientific explanation of what they did to the chips

@ThomasSerruques

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica the nec clx2 chip (powervr 2) has a number of cores: isp for image processing, tsp for textures and shading , ta for tiles accelerator and fpu for triangle setup. they probably kept the same 100MHz and just added a number of cores (fpu ta tsp isp) to increase the power of the chip. power vr was built to scale very nicely. so i suppose you could just add more chips like on naomi2 or increase the core number of a chip.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see some decapped scans of the chips but I’ve never come across any

@ThomasSerruques

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica yes comparing the dies of respective power vr 2 revisions would be nice

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised nobody has done it. Or maybe they have and I just haven’t come across it yet.

I wonder if Sega had done better with the Saturn, and hadn't had to cut corners in order to sell the Dreamcast for $199, if the system would have had the same specs as the NAOMI, or if they would have gone with something Model 3-based.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Model 3 for the home would have been wildly expensive. It’s a ton of custom chips. I don’t think that would have been financially feasible to ever get into a console

@funnyguy150

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica One of the Dreamcast development teams, according to Wikipedia, was designing the system with a Voodoo2 and a Motorola PowerPC 603e, which is the CPU the Model 3 uses. The CPU seems to be the bottleneck with Model 3 ports, so it could have had similar architecture albeit downgraded.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Yes if you took the Model 3 graphics chips out and subbed it for an off the shelf gpu solution you could get costs way down

I'm not sure how you could debate that PS2 video output is better than the Dreamcast, the DC's video is just unbelievably crisp.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Did I say the PS2 had better output? Voice over on this was done two months ago...doesn’t seem like something I’d say? Lol

@amerigocosta7452

3 жыл бұрын

​@@VideoGameEsoterica I think you said that it rivals the PS2 graphical fidelity. It might as well beat it. I don't think that the PS2 component and RGB signals are inherently bad but the library is certainly plagued by the prevalence of interlaced graphics and muddy colours choices, a dreaded early 2000s trope.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Ooh I meant it as a compliment lol. That visually Dreamcast can look as graphically impressive as PS2

People think the Dreamcast failed or lost. There's no other console that had the most awesome games in such a short time and everyone who actually owned one had the time of their lives and the Dreamcast graphics hold up much better in my opinion than PS2 games.

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

It didn’t fail but it had so much more life in it

I wonder if Sega could have sold a add on to the Dreamcast to bump it up to Naomi power? But i guess people were tired of buying Sega add ons by then. Lol.

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah nobody would have gone near another add on from Sega even if it was technically feasible. What could have happened is Dreamcast 2 just being NAOMI 2 in a new shell

So can anyone tell me, I have pretty much all the Japanese HOME Sega Naomi ports on my Japanese DC, some people say that even though the DC is just a legit plug in to your TV and play Naomi arcade home console the Naomi ports were still not 💯% arcade perfect, but yet when I play like rival schools, marvel VS capcom 2, capcom VS SNK 1 and 2, virtua striker, virtua tennis, they all look 💯% sega Naomi arcade board perfect to me lol so idk why some people think there’s a difference, cuz sega literally did what SNK did with there Neo Geo MVS arcade hardware, they turned it into a literal home system, and used pretty much the same shape sized cartridges, so sega used the exact same GD ROM discs as the sega Naomi except you don’t need one of those little black Security chips to play the games onto your sega dreamcast

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

The difference is more ram. Not so much as a “it’s better than Dreamcast” situation but more towards a “content can’t spool from the CD” situation. Naomi and DC are near identical but just far enough apart as to not make easy home brew conversions of NAOMI games to Dreamcast. It’s the same, but not exactly

@SuperKillerdreams

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica so graphics are the same :) just the games have to be red different between the two systems, so that way you can’t just play a Naomi GR ROM right on the the dreamcast, and another thing that confused me is that I recently saw the other day someone finally did a side by side comparison of dead or alive 2 Naomi VS dreamcast, and I saw slight graphical differences, but yet if you read all over google you’ll find out that the team who made DOA2 said they couldn’t have gotten the DC port looking more arcade perfect then they already have, so idk why in this recent comparison video the DC version had ever so slightly color difference and graphical difference

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Yes DOA 2 is basically par across both platforms

@SuperKillerdreams

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica pretty much all of capcoms Naomi games did make it to the dreamcast legit 💯% arcade perfect, like rival schools on DC is smack dab Naomi perfect same with MVC2 CVS1 and 2 power stone 1 and 2 and what made my jaw drop back in the day is when the creator of outrun got ferrari F355 challenge legit arcade perfect on the DC cuz that was a Naomi title that requires 3 monitors to give it that iconic simulator look and 3 Naomi boards to run it, and that SOB got it to fit arcade perfectly onto a single Naomi board dreamcast system using only one TV monitor! 💯❤️😂 that day it came out it blew me to the floor, I remember playing in on my RCA huge CRT TV and thinking I can’t believe I’m playing the arcade perfect sega Naomi version in my own bedroom on my DC

The dreamcast is like the neo geo but for 3D gaming., it was a console designed to be an arcade system at home, and also that is its main failure., the console is focused on framerates, resolution and anti-aliasing like the arcade games., but the ps2 can push more polygons, have more complex textures and effects, the early ps2 games that came in CD Rom format., those blue cd roms., look like dreamcast games., the ps2 had some flaws against the dreamcast., it has less ram which was a major problem., the ps2 is harder to develop., and got worst video output., sony may have cut those stuff that was used in arcade games to focus just in the stuff necessary for standard CRTs., although the ps2 do have lots of arcade games with anti-aliasing, great framerate and all the good stuff the dreamcast had., not many knew how to program well for the ps2., that is why many think the dreamcast is more powerful but NOPE it is not., the dreamcast games are way more simple; other problems of the dreamcast is that it wasnt well designed., it feels like a rushed console, with its noisy drive, the controller looks nice but is not practical same situation with the vmu

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Dreamcast could have held on against PS2 at least if Sega had the money to support it

@johnnada6855

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Yes., that was the main problem., if they could have resisted the 2000 shit wave of the launch of the ps2., but God knows how much money they have lost on making the dreamcast., it was cutting edge for the end of the 90s., plus they were making the naomi, plus all those exclusives at launch, everything was rushed, a kinda suicide mission that failed., a big problem of management., but maybe when you have a business with that level of money in the line is either you go big or go home you can´t go with in between, i mean., nintendo kinda almost died at the same time too with the n64 and the gamecube, maybe the gameboy saved them and gave them the idea of focus in marketing rather than powerful consoles

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

I would have loved to have seen what Dreamcast games would have looked like in 2003 with more work done on be dev side

@johnnada6855

3 жыл бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Well., kinda the naomi 2 shows., because the lack of features that the ps2., gamecube and xbox had well not much could have been reached than what the naomi 2 shows., maybe, but just maybe the xbox is what a dreamcast 2 would have looked like

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 жыл бұрын

Yes NAOMI 2 could have easily been the next Dreamcast 2

Is it "Ney-omi" or "Now-mi" 😳

@VideoGameEsoterica

9 ай бұрын

Just like the woman’s name

1:15 there's a pubic hair on top of the dreamcast logo.

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 ай бұрын

Lol a beard hair or a dog hair but yes

dreamcast and ps2 games all looked better on the dreamcast ports... less jaggy graphics... tho ps2 seemed to be faster

@VideoGameEsoterica

Жыл бұрын

I’d agree

Those VGA Boxes are junk Mine broke Many people I know experienced the same thing

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 ай бұрын

The cables can be problematic

@c2ironfist

3 ай бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica the good thing is that there's a lot of good available cables now Pair that up with a good scaler and your golden 😁

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 ай бұрын

Dreamcast VGA to RetroTink 4K is where it’s at

@c2ironfist

3 ай бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica yhaa Though I do like the SCART and Component cable options with switch for low res and progressive Just to cover the few titles that don't support VGA

@VideoGameEsoterica

3 ай бұрын

It’s nice to have options

Dreamcast run games @480p and very sharp and colorful but at the same time many games have poor textures ( like code Veronica ) and relatively low polygonal count.

@VideoGameEsoterica

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it’s always a trade off between quality and speed