Very nice the PCB looked (for a quick glance) tidy and well laid out.

Thanks for the review. Nice drag soldering technique!

@KrotowX

Жыл бұрын

Also minispoon tip used for that is probably one of the less expensive original 245 tips (JBC C245931 in TME catalog).

@5:47 Interesting discussion about tips. I've always just used a pointy one for everything... the conical curved thing might be something I should try out.

@tookitogo

4 жыл бұрын

NivagSwerdna for what it’s worth, pencil tips are my least favorite, and I remain baffled that so many irons ship with them. In my opinion (one shared by many iron makers and soldering pros), a chisel tip is a far better everyday tip. But I’ve also been learning the value of more specialized tips. I LOVE the hoof/well tips intended for drag soldering, as they suck up excess solder from a joint - and this makes them great not just for drag soldering, but also for THT (especially when the pads are unnecessarily small, as is often the case with Chinese PCBs), and for tinning wire.

Nice basic instruction about where to use various solldering tip types. Pointy tip works well for small thru-hole components. Bent tip for soldering SMD components with few pins. And knife tip - on QFP and flat cable desoldering. Minispoon (JBC C245931) is probably the most awesome tip for QFP and flat cable soldering to board.

As soon as I saw the display turn on (given it's STM32) I thought.......Oh hello! U8g2lib.h library.

@UnexpectedMaker

4 жыл бұрын

Nerd!!!

@willson8246

3 жыл бұрын

No. Actually, this soldering station uses MCU STM8 not STM32. The part number is STM8L151K4T6.

Thanks for the video! What about the cable to the handpiece? Does it have some heat resistant and flexible silicone coating?

Thanks, Steve! I don't know why you hate those tips so much. I love the Hakko curved conical tip for SMD work. And the knife tip comes in handy removing SMD caps, resistors, etc. Just put the tip along the side of them and slide them off of the pads. I need to get a nice micro-pencil.

@SidneyCritic

4 жыл бұрын

When I got a STM32/KSGER T12 I also thought the blade tip was useless, but after I figured it can remove SMD stuff in one hit I now love the thing.

I find the curved tips handy when working on boards mounted vertically in a chassis. More angle for the dangle.

Supposedly "ESD Safe" but the tip is not grounded?

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

Good point, many leave a connector so that you can attach it appropriately. On reflection, the unit would be better to use the 4mm connector on the back and tie that to the iron lead rather than the AC inlet.

What is it’s warm up time like? What about thermal output, trying to solder large thermal mass devices?

the product from my wife's hometown, i bought one too, i like it, especially the knife change way.

7:54 so relaxing

Why is it called T12-11? T12 is Hakko's designation for some integrated heater tips, it got picked up by manufacturers of stations that are compatible with those tips, but this one is not.

@lycanlycans7548

3 жыл бұрын

That T12-11 Toor Soldering station use JBC tips ! Not T12 hakko tips I know is irritating but they chose a wrong name! And YES ! You can use original JBC tips on that station ! Best regards,

What tip are you using for your soldering iron for ps4 and xbox one hdmi replacement? I have the hakko fx888d and dont know what tip will work best.

That looks like a nice station. I really dont need a new as my Hakko FX 951 works fine, but I hate it!! It's interface is hard to use and the worst part is it never turns off the handle if you forget to turn it off. I really like the idea of the handle plugging into the stand it gets a big thumbs up from me on that so I just may have to get this one!!

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it tidies things up a lot and makes cable management a bit easier.

@KrotowX

Жыл бұрын

It is never too late to get metter tools if you need them. Just moved from TS-100 soldering iron to T/C245 station, because TS-100 using experience on desktop is burdensome.

I wonder if they sell the controller separately. It would make an awesome upgrade for a cheap 936A style soldering station.

Nice video review , but I would like to make the coin test . I sow an older video with jbc 1200 clone and it was too slow. I think that you must make the same test with your solder station.

Very interesting soldering station. I really like the clean, crisp display. A shame it is available only in a 220V version, though.

@bobweiram6321

2 жыл бұрын

Easy to convert. Buy a cheap 120V/24V 75W transformer, or salvage it from a cheap soldering station. You can buy them on eBay for next to nothing. If it doesn't have a 5V or 9V rail, you can add a small ac-dc converter.

@MindFlareRetro

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobweiram6321 I might give this a go. Thanks for the suggestion.

Hello..do you know where to buy ONLY stand?

Can we use jbc tip for toor t12 11

The iron plugs into the stand so you can put the station far back and away on your desk. Nice! But then the on/off switch is found recessed on the back of the station. Put a lot of thought into the design… ?

so you rectify voltage from the secondary . . . got it..

A friend told me that the arm and head of the jbc t210 and sugon t26 are working on it, is this correct please reply؟ And Sugon a9 t210 or t12-11 jamper ic?

Does jbc hand cultivation work on iron and t210 tips

How fast does the tip heat up? Heating speed is one of JBC’s strengths. What about thermal capacity?

@tookitogo

4 жыл бұрын

Frédéric Boivin The thermal capacity is determined by the tips, and the tips are the real JBC ones. With that said, that’s a blessing and a curse: JBC tips perform very well (it’s what I have at work), but they’re not super durable, and they’re very expensive. Pace ADS200 tips would be a really nice alternative, as they perform nearly as well, but last longer and cost far less. (The Pace tips use thicker iron plating, which slightly reduces thermal performance, but massively improves tip life.)

@ceejay_gaming9636

3 жыл бұрын

@@tookitogo link to the tips please

Halo bro my toor T12-11 power on but problem low temperature cant burn anything if I set 350c can't burn seem like 100c and if I set 500c seems like i set 250c burn slow slow still low temperature i try new handle form another toor still problem but my hand works good on onother host problem is my Host I dont know inside machine got problem

@pakiisam6075

16 күн бұрын

Did you get it fixed? I have one with a similar issue.

Steve, great video again. You have confused people - this is a good review, but then the BEST one was a good review. I have a Metcal Mx500 and about 40 different tips. But as you note you cannot change the temp of the tips. My tips were bought before Lead-free came out and so don't work very well. Which is the better soldering station this one or the best? or something else? Soldering stations tend to be one-off purchases for years so would like to get the best one now for the next 10-15 years.... keep well

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jack, Very little in terms of performance between the two stations. I think these work well because they mainly rely on the good performance of the C245 tips. If you're used to the Metcal, I'd get the MX-5200 series

@jackbuechler

4 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics many thanks. I will take your advice.

With postage AND taxes to Finland, this would be more than 220$... yeah... quite steep even if it'll look cheap as chips on the surface. :(

Hello friend, I have a device like this that has a heat error sometimes it doesn't, can you help me?

What desoldering tool you recommend for professionals?

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

The Metcal desoldering gun is probably the best out there when combined with the MX-5200 type power supplies. Pricey though.

@gassanali8667

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Does it require any other device to get it running. I watched your review of MX-5200 and I remember that you mentioned it requires shop air. How is shop air used? Do I have to buy a seperate compressor to make it work?

would the handle work with a real JBC. I have T210 handle and I have been wanting to get a t245 handle but they aren't cheap. That can be said about anything JBC lol

@lycanlycans7548

3 жыл бұрын

Fixed Until Broken your answer is here ! YES AND YES AND YES ! YOU can use original JBC tips ! The JBC tips are a little bit shorter then the from t12-11 toor soldering station but is working very nicely ! Best regards,

@juangizirian9810

Жыл бұрын

@@lycanlycans7548 Yesterday I bought 2 C245 tips from relife shorter like you said. But I was mad, measured with thermocouple and can't go above 350-360c . Are the tips damaged , or they work differently as opposed to the Toor default ones?. I calibrated to 25-26mv incresed temp to 400-450. but somehow it's like thje tips are capped somehow.

@lechugasoy

11 ай бұрын

@@juangizirian9810 Same problem, also with relife t245, and also from Argentina! I guess they don't use the same resistance... Honestly disappointed... I'm thinking whether to buy a jbc tip or try the axium...

DC heater supply, is that normal. Don't they often regulate the A/C direct

@tookitogo

4 жыл бұрын

Justin Richards Both systems are common. (Makes no difference to heating performance, since a resistive heater simply doesn’t care,)

She's doing a t26 arm on it or not.

Hi, I bought the same a few days ago ... it's not like everything in the video, I don't know which station you tested. For my part it does not heat up enough the tip sticks on the card and the tin does not stay caught on the tip. I do not strongly recommend it

@relicboxing

3 жыл бұрын

Can you please elaborate because I want to buy this station,does it heat up as well as t12 tips? Do you know you can buy tips specifically made for this for $10 each? Thanks for your help in advance

How would you rate it compared to the KSGER t12?

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

It's certainly more professional and better built. The C245 cartridges fit perfectly, but come at a price.

@joshm264

4 жыл бұрын

My t12 station will still be my daily driver for the foreseeable future, and I'm waiting on the SMD rework Station as well

@IanScottJohnston

4 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics Tell me about it.....Just bought a JBC and a collection of 12 C245 cartridges!

@juangizirian9810

Жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics Greetings from argentina, excellent video. I bought couple days ago this unit, withj it's default tips works beautifully. Then I tried some C245 tips from relife, as I needed a larger K type. To my surprise it doesn''t above 350-360C . Tried calibrating pushing 25-26Mv under calibration . Same thing. Are these relife tips damaged. Can't understand.

Do genuine JBC C245 tips fit in the handle ok. I have heard about problems with JBC clones, where the genuine tips don't fit in snugly and make proper contact, or in the worst case, cause a short circuit

Nice video. Thank you. I completely agree, those tips are useless. Watching people explain how good a conical tip is, while they struggle to get heat into a through hole, is comical. The chisel tip is the nicest to work with, 99.9% of the time, for my purpose.

I got one of these the other day and it does work well. But my copy does not work with JBC tips. I got a C245931 and it will heat up but does not regulate. It will go to 480C and the the display will go from "Working" to "Burnout" and the tip will go cold. If anyone has ran into this and knows a fix please let me know. It there is not a fix this is a fail to me as having to get tip from china all the time is a big negative to me.

@sdgelectronics

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like the contacts on the JBC tip might not be making good contact with the handpiece. I didn't have issues with genuine JBC tips though on my unit strangely

@chefbink61

3 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics I'll check that.. Thanks Steve!!

@chefbink61

3 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics Just did some checking. It seems that the center contacts on the tip are not the same length. The overall length is the same, the center contact on the JBC is 10.68mm with a 2.3 mm indent. The tips it came with have a center contact that is 12.96 mm with a 1.5 mm indent at the end of the contact. So it seems to me that you are right and my handle is not working with the JBC tips. I am going to check the JBC tips spec sheets to see which tips may work. Thanks again!!

Is there anyway to change from Chinese to english?

@sdgelectronics

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think so. I donated the unit to a school so I can't check now.

How are you dear?

Boycotting all chinese-made stuff. Suggest others consider doing likewise.

@Raiment57

4 жыл бұрын

Why?

So it's only 20v max, pity it's not 24v, but it looks very nice.