I'm back!

@Dodoid

5 жыл бұрын

4 AM here :)

@superniall9995

5 жыл бұрын

It's been a while...

@mapesdhs597

5 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing for me, breakfast telly. :D

@tnaxpw

5 жыл бұрын

10am vid nice :)

@mbe102

5 жыл бұрын

I just saw the notification in my e-mail and thought, "Oh nice, the SGI dude is back!" By the way, 20 minutes is relatively short. I've watched your SGI videos over and over, countless times, and in fact, after this, I'll probably head back and watch it again! Keep it up dude! You were missed.

He had to sell all his furniture and his shoes to pay for it.

@NEWCASTLE.UNITED.

5 жыл бұрын

Jordan Wharton , 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@joshuahuman1

5 жыл бұрын

Nice

@RozzmanLists

5 жыл бұрын

hilarious :D

@frechjo

5 жыл бұрын

Those shoes sold for 250k$ in the 90's

@jordanwharton6273

5 жыл бұрын

fede Those some big purple shoes, lol.

Wow.. that's a lot of computing power for 1993. Most machines were running around 25 to 66 mhz around that time with a single CPU.

@thechosenone8808

5 жыл бұрын

And graphical power compared to XGA or even VGA graphics of the time

@AShifter

5 жыл бұрын

Hey, neat to see you here.

@TrueMathSquare

5 жыл бұрын

I know. In today terms what graphics cards would compare with the power it had?

@Dodoid

5 жыл бұрын

Hi there! Yep, there's a reason it cost that much. It's a beast of a machine. I love your channel, by the way. Let me know if you ever want to do anything SGI-related in one of your videos. I'd be glad to help.

@Gun4Freedom

5 жыл бұрын

Mathcubes, that is actually not the easiest question to answer. The system is not just a graphics card equivalent. It would be a lot more comparable to a pc as a whole. The difficulty of comparing it to modern systems is that the chip architecture itself, and the way the parts and silicon are layed out on those pcb's, along with the os and software, are so much different than a pc. There are many chips on those boards that have been absorbed into other chips, or gotten rid of altogether. You can look at the storage, the ram, the speed and ipc of the processors, the different graphics processing engines, the caching schemes, the rasterization boards, and understand that they have all been condensed, miniaturized, and integrated into modern components. You would have to look up all those details in any given modern component, which can be hard to find sometimes, and then add up all the differences between them. Plus, many of the components that machine used, are not even used anymore, due to people figuring out simpler ways to do things with code.

"What kind of computer do you use?" "A desk." "A desktop?" "No, a desk computer."

@craigjensen6853

2 жыл бұрын

Technically it was a "deskside". You could wheel a desk up next to it to "extend your desktop".

I worked for SGI in the mid 90s at their Salford Quays office (Manchester UK). Best job I ever had. We all had an Indy on our desk and we had a very early email system called Z-Mail. It was the coolest place to work at the time and I was very lucky to get a job in pre-sales there. OpenGL, VRML, early HTML editor called Cosmo, we were years ahead. I still remember the day we got Quake running on an Onyx thanks to John Carmack's special port. We couldn't believe the smoothness and resolution. Then Nvidia came along.... Ah well it was fantastic whilst it lasted.

Wow what a crazy machine! Also, 16GB of RAM??? In 1993?? Holy balls...

@azmanabdula

5 жыл бұрын

Thats what i have XD Amazing isnt it I remember having around 300 mb of Ram

@bakedpotato1238

5 жыл бұрын

My gaming rig only has 8, I feel inferior ;-(

@marcopasta6274

5 жыл бұрын

I only got 8 lol

@annacondasnakes

5 жыл бұрын

8gb ddr3 or ddr4 is far superior to even 32 gb of the ram of that time

@cerebraldreams4738

5 жыл бұрын

When buying a computer to last the next five years isn't good enough, and you want a machine that will last for the next twenty. :-P

16 gb ram in the 90's is like sticking rocket boosters to a tricycle.

@BillAnt

5 жыл бұрын

Lol... great analogy xD ... been there done it... in '92 I have even installed a 1-Gigabyte ($2,000) full height HD monstrosity to my tricycle, it was like a huge gas tank with afterburners... he-he

@YAP_1776

5 жыл бұрын

Not with that SGI. You just saw the Demo's

@stanleyperry

5 жыл бұрын

i dont got 16 gb or ram on my 5k imac

@dboy4ever

5 жыл бұрын

In 1993 my PC (my first one, a 80386) had 640KB of RAM and 20MB of harddrive.

@kenrickeason

5 жыл бұрын

Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!

I used this in work to design oil rigs in the 90s and produce one of the first fly through movies. Took a weekend to compile all of the frames. Brought back memories. Thank you.

@Gregory.allo77

3 жыл бұрын

yea back then it was a time restrictor,....but today my 6yo could do it on his nerf tablet in aboult 5min

@GrandMasterKai

2 жыл бұрын

sure nice made up story 😂 just trying to get likes, how sad

@trashyraccoon2615

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrandMasterKai It’s a pretty plausible story. How the heck do you know?

@larrybethune3909

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love that compile time.

@thejhonnie

2 жыл бұрын

@@GrandMasterKai damn man you're so smart. Must suck knowing you know best all the time!

"What did it cost?" "Everything"

@robertohaaij9157

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaha

@Hud_Adnan

5 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha funny one

@terrymartin4234

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/l5yX0sGleZipccY.html&t=55

You know your pc is serious when you need a key to boot

@nikitapisek2901

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@thetedmang

5 жыл бұрын

You know the OP is a millennial when he doesn't know that ALL computers had keys at one time.

@ghostjaeger4326

5 жыл бұрын

thetedmang its a Joke bro

@nickypass861

5 жыл бұрын

@@ghostjaeger4326 Shut the fuck up

@southpakrules

5 жыл бұрын

@@ghostjaeger4326 We live in a post joke society now grandpa

That moment when a computer from 1993 has twice as much ram as your pc from 2017

@loganbarcelos7193

5 жыл бұрын

Emufasar but prob Cost like 249,500 more

@ashtenlastname4045

5 жыл бұрын

you wrote that in 2k18...

@pomponi0

5 жыл бұрын

@@ashtenlastname4045 He probably built/bought his PC in 2017

@emufasar1789

5 жыл бұрын

Pomponivs Archibald yes I built it in 2017

@pimpmyllama1

5 жыл бұрын

That's over 400k with inflation so I don't doubt it lol

SGI's were awesome in their day! As an artist & animator, not only did the 64-bit processor 's kick the shit out of Intel/Windows 32-bit options at the time, but the whole SGI Operating System was designed for artists to work in a specialized graphics-oriented environment. The File Manager was basically an image management application in its own right. Still, having to run several of these (not to mention the refrigerator-sized Onyx Reality Engine series) was way to expensive for anything except feature film work or scientific visualization.

Man, this takes me back. Working at SGI was the most fun job I ever had.

@moabt.frican7163

2 жыл бұрын

Any cool stories/memories from your time there? That's so cool... :)

As an SGI tech support employee from 1997 to 1999, I was trained on the hardware and software side of these systems and their kin, some of which could fill an entire server room. The owners of SGI machines were primarily Hollywood studios, game developers, University research centers, NASA and the U.S. national laboratories. They did run games (BZFLAG) and VR (DACTYL NIGHTMARE), all of which are primitive by today's standards. OpenGL (gfx api) and Irix (OS) were as ahead of their time as the hardware itself. SGI also owned Cray, who's supercomputers were liquid cooled, and exponentially more expensive. In 1999 I showed the 640x480, $200 Sega Dreamcast to one of my SGI engineers (also the first person to excitedly show me Google) and his complaint was that it didn't do Anti-Aliasing. Granted the Onyx was leaps and bounds ahead of anything else graphically, but the price to performance ratio eventually caught up to SGI, and the company didn't change fast enough to stay ahead of the market. RIP. Google now occupies the former SGI HQ.

@RRSYSinfo

5 жыл бұрын

Epic, info David, what where you most recently working on.

@RadiaUmbra

5 жыл бұрын

You know since the biggest tech companies live in Silicon Valley, I aways wondered what happened to Silicon Graphics and I think I know now

@jeremybevington7304

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I used to work in one of the old SGI buildings that had super low cable trays... SGI definitely didn't think that server racks/rooms would get as tall as they have.

@Stratomacaster

5 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh the gool ol' days. We used to eat lunch in the lab (when no one was around of course), sitting on our really expensive "red couch" (Y-MP8) updating UNICOS by hand and sometimes dragging over an Indigo workstation and marveling at the ability to "spin the corvette" in real time or watch the paper airplane demo everyone was so fascinated by. I miss those days. I printed one of those Cray Y-MP mini cases for one of my Raspberry Pi Zero's. Fitting, considering the computing power of both. Cool, but at the same time sad.

@mapesdhs597

5 жыл бұрын

David H., I remember your name. :D Spot on about the guy's comment re lack of AA on the Dreamcast, ironically I didn't like the PS1 for the same reason (terrible textures and wobbly geometry); I loved the N64, even though the AA still wasn't there, but the mipmapping was way better. However, the fact that the guy's immediate response was to note the lack of fidelity kinda foreshadowed where SGI went wrong eventually, they focused so much on image quality while ignoring demands for better basic raw performance.

I don't know how I got here and why I watched the whole thing but it was very interesting and I don't regret it.

@user-zg4bk6rv1q

5 жыл бұрын

Son Goku So you've cheated on Chichi with Kefla

@Jademyheart

5 жыл бұрын

It's very interesting, hard to believe this was a commercial machine, way back then

@SilentTakeox

5 жыл бұрын

Sane here

15:50 That “thick pink paper “ is anti-grounding insulation. Helps prevent static grounding in case of a close contact.

@ianf123

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, SGI used that in several systems. In early versions of the Power Indigo 2 (R8000 version), it got so hot that the paper would smoulder. They had to respin the processor module to fix this. But that was SGI: already releasing hardware before it was actually finished. "Throw it over the wall, let support fix it."

@JohnDoe-mv4ks

4 жыл бұрын

@@ianf123 Vulcanized paper.

imagine how powerful a 250,000 dollar supercomputer would be in 2020...

@nossy232323

5 жыл бұрын

That's probably just the price of an Nvidia videocard, the way things are going.

@alikhalid724

5 жыл бұрын

@@nossy232323 rtx 6900 with 10% more performance for 200% more dollars = ez profit = super improved now play 4k at 70 fps not 60. Oh yea and raytracing with 12 fps cuz human eye cant see games that support raytracing.

@nat0106951

5 жыл бұрын

quantum computer 😅

@tymcadara6629

5 жыл бұрын

They are called Cisco computers lol. The motherboards they operate can support up to 2 terabytes of ram...

@Boneless_Water

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Imray you could probably hack the government with that thing

Imagine a 250.000$ computer today. It would have 16 TB Ram

@provsalt

5 жыл бұрын

sry 3tb for 250k maybe 250k for 16tb will be a great deal before 2018 end r/dreamer

@MNB730

5 жыл бұрын

@Nederlandse Uploads open chrome with 10 tabs maybe

@bace1000

5 жыл бұрын

@@Chrixio that's not how it works......

@LogNote

5 жыл бұрын

Chrixio are you being serious?

@LogNote

5 жыл бұрын

Chrixio that’s not how it works...

Imagine spending $250,000 on a Computer and not being able to play Crysis.

@ahgagf9902

5 жыл бұрын

İbne Piçin Tekiyim That’s because crysis came out in 2007

@drumspleasefab

5 жыл бұрын

@@ahgagf9902 HOLY SHIT! SERIOUSLY?

@siralfrednobel

5 жыл бұрын

try something new and creative.

@drumspleasefab

5 жыл бұрын

@@siralfrednobel Your wish is my command!

@drumspleasefab

5 жыл бұрын

@@kos4225 go learn some fucking English before you correct someone.

5:58 What I really admire about the Oynx is how quiet it is. I'd only slightly notice it when practising the drums in a small reflective room along to Megadeth booming from my Rokit 5s at 110dB.

I was 17 years old working as a level designer using this machine to build N64 games in 1996. From Dpaint to this was amazing. Happy days. Thanks for the great video. X

so like 25 years from now they are gonna look back at our quantum computer prototypes and laugh while watching the video on their quantum smartphones with 16TB ram

@hasanzainul10

5 жыл бұрын

@@kentinousss6 man that's crazy 😂

@pinaxl2

5 жыл бұрын

@@kentinousss6 something like this kzread.info/dash/bejne/i36bkpSiprzgg9Y.html

@godofentity

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, we're going to go down in personal computing power, and moving towards faster internet, using cloud servers for computing power. Kind of a shame if you ask me.

@cestarianinhabitant5898

5 жыл бұрын

there won't be RAM, there will just be storage. Non-volatile memory is the future, and what better way to do it than make the entire storage device double as memory?

@rinne409

5 жыл бұрын

16TB RAM? wtf lol

I worked with this machine and its relatives back in the late 80s and early 90s. Actually took a week long maintenance class at the SGI facility in Mountain View, CA. I have had that front ramp down so many times I hate to count. And usually had several people breathing down my neck asking how much longer it would be. Mostly, the machine just ran. Too bad SGI stopped innovating. I really liked their stuff. Thanks for the video. I am amazed at how much you know about this thing. It brought back a lot of memories.

@davjaxify

5 жыл бұрын

.

@ryanirvine50

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure the repair bill was expensive lol

@BillAnt

5 жыл бұрын

Back in the late 80's early 90's the Commodore Amiga had similar graphics capabilities for a fraction of the cost... ahhh the good 'ol days.. :)

@benbaselet2026

5 жыл бұрын

The Amiga was definitely ahead of it's time and a great machine but the capabilities of AGA versus this is really not much a comparison, for obvious reasons.

@BillAnt

5 жыл бұрын

Well yeah, but the Amiga's price was just a fraction of an SGI, and while a stock machine couldn't do hi-res real-time ray-tracing, there were programs which took overnight to render it. Later on they had a bunch of turbo-cards and AAA (Amiga Advanced Architecture) graphics which were able to do it in real-time. They were obviously in different leagues (including price), but the Amiga was the closest competitor to SGI, while the PC couldn't even touch it at that time... sure that has changed too by the mid 90's ;)

Thanks for bringing back old memories! I used all sorts of SGIs in those times for computer animation and I loved them. System administration on IRIX was a joy compared to Windows nowadays and even if everything was slower than now, we had much more fun at work. It's great to see that here are still enthusiasts keeping these machines alive!

@aseerose5684

5 жыл бұрын

I used to go to Comdex and stand at the SGI booth with an aching heart. Years later when companies were unloading them, I got my own Indigo with software. It has been idle for a while but I am putting it back into commission. It will be so sweet to hear the startup chimes again.

Is there a word for someone who feels nostalgia for something before their time? This guy is doing great things.

That's not a computer. That's a space station.

@guyincognito7771

5 жыл бұрын

what do you mean, it's to big to be a space..……...

@BillAnt

5 жыл бұрын

But space itself is big... reeealy big ;)

@Jixejo

5 жыл бұрын

and yet, it just pales in comparison to my £1300 2017 gaming pc..... its just so many leagues behind

@BillAnt

5 жыл бұрын

@jolena auvuya < Your 2017 system may be more powerful, but this was 25 years ago when the internet was in its infancy, that's the whole point of this video.

@gideonkloosterman

5 жыл бұрын

This is actually quite funny, the first space flights had on-board computers comparable to pocket calculators!

Dang he legit sold everything in his house to buy the pc.

@crisbowman

5 жыл бұрын

Quality commenting 👌

@nickypass861

5 жыл бұрын

200000$ in house decorations means you are beyond rich. Maybe a billionaire. Most people don't even have 100000$ so 250000$ in decorations would be insane. Most people also only have 2000 - 5000$ of furniture in their house

@Esskay_

5 жыл бұрын

@@nickypass861 whoooosh

@khenudae1158

5 жыл бұрын

Esskay you would expect someone with the suicide emoji to be funny ;-;

@chinowolf3767

5 жыл бұрын

poor guy even lost his socks :)

That logo takes me back. My last CRT monitor was a 21" Silicon Graphics tube.

Pretty mind-blowing, thanks for letting us check it out.

I love how it basically has a startup sequence, like a dragster.

@Gigachadsson69

5 жыл бұрын

The Obsolete Geek Its nice see you in here

@Semparo

5 жыл бұрын

More like a Jet if you Account for the Sound! lol

@metsrock15

5 жыл бұрын

Obsolete Geek Nice to see you

@MMedic23

5 жыл бұрын

Don't all computers have a startup sequence?

@Semparo

5 жыл бұрын

@@MMedic23 Yea, it's just not as apparent as it is in older hardware like this. Some server computers still start in similar fashion. Such as a lcd with post messages and such. Otherwise most computers start up so quickly now days it's as if they no longer have a startup sequence!

I actually used one of these when they first came out. The company that I worked for bought it to do analysis on plastic parts. The spinning jet and the buttons brought back a lot of old memories!

@joythought

5 жыл бұрын

I used one as well for special effects in a post production studio. Was state of the art in its day and the suite was something like $750 per hour to clients...

That was a real serious monster of a machine in 1993. Well done for picking one up and looking after it!

Your video was really good, It was a time machine back to the days of the computing super expensive devices. Thank you for all the efforts.

On the thumbnail: Oh, it’s just a little box. 0:11 : Awe sheeet!

@darrenpearsall4523

5 жыл бұрын

I thought it was something like a Gamecube.... until the guy walked on with it! 😂

@bruperina

5 жыл бұрын

Darren Pearsall exactly 😂😂😂

@Easyguy5DoesGaming

5 жыл бұрын

It has more ram than my computer, and the graphics aren't the worst I've seen.

Hey bro let's do a lan party! "Sure man, lemme grab a uhaul!"

@fierrza1845

5 жыл бұрын

Flatl1ne you could always portfoward : ]

@SkeeveMagick

4 жыл бұрын

Fun thing is: I did lan parties with SGI machines. in the 1990s I worked for SGI Germany and every now and then friends and I met in the office to play some rounds of BZFlag.

I think this video singlehandedly made a lot of people realize how cool SGI's workstations actually are.

Thank you so much for the time stamps. I wish more people did this, so helpful.

Fun Fact: This exact workstation was used to create Nintendo 64 games when Silicon Graphics partnered up with Nintendo.

@Tinnesa

5 жыл бұрын

Know if it created OoT?

@michaelopnv634

5 жыл бұрын

The Onyx was much more powerful than the N64, meaning most games had to be downgraded in order to run on it. Some games like Mario 64 were made on their Indie workstation, which closely matched the N64's power.

@5kulld

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelopnv634 i'm saying n64 games were designed using the onyx

@5kulld

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tinnesa i'm not sure, but the most popular game it created was super mario 64 and also pilot wings

@4strokeperro949

5 жыл бұрын

He literally said that in the video -.-

16 GB of RAM. In the 1990s. h o l y s h - -

@WoodysAR

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I remember being very excited about upgrading from 2 to 4 MB of RAM! Running 3D Studio for DOS! Being amazed the first time I pusged open on a CD drawer! LOL

@outsideworld76

5 жыл бұрын

In those days my AMD 486DX ran at 66MHz and only had 4Mbyte of RAM and a wooping 210Mbyte hard drive.

@TheMustafa0815

5 жыл бұрын

and 12 years later in 2005 my pc had 64mb ram while this one can have 16gb...

@Krisztian5HUN

5 жыл бұрын

thats RAD dude!!!

@TheValentineEnemy

5 жыл бұрын

Even my laptop has half the RAM....so unfair...

don't worry, that pc is big enough for him to move into if need be.

Holy cow man the amount of nostalgia the intro gave me was insane !

But can it run Crysis?

@QuantumLM

5 жыл бұрын

But can it run Crysis?

@mitchmanexe243

5 жыл бұрын

Can it run it Crysis 2?

@user-hb7nz9cl2h

5 жыл бұрын

But can it djent?

@ivanayala1877

5 жыл бұрын

But.

@BillAnt

5 жыл бұрын

But wait, can it run Fortnite?? lol

Little known fact. Terminator Two was done on a SGi machine. The famous scene where the liquid terminator morphs out of the floor.

@mapesdhs597

5 жыл бұрын

Most movies from that era used SGIs, it was the main platform for IFFFS apps. Star Trek VI, The Abyss, The English Patient, Jurassic Park, the list is very long. Personally, I helped a bit with the productions for JP2 Lost World and SW Ep. II.

@Manueljlin

5 жыл бұрын

mapesdhs Oh wow, that is so cool Man I LOVE these machines!

@louistournas120

5 жыл бұрын

+angjoysnow: They probably film the scene, import it to the SGI computer. Then design the 3D models. Add the textures. Do the animation. Render the animation on top of the film and export it back out to VHS or something. I heard that for Jurassic Park, the modelling software used was SoftImage. They call such software CAM = Computer Aided Modeling.

@sir_john_hammond

5 жыл бұрын

Whoosh.

@HipsterBlackMetalOfficial

5 жыл бұрын

Its a widely known fact lmao. Jurassic Park as well. Hell Donkey Kong Country sprites were made on this thing, then pre rendered for the SNES to handle.

thank you for all the efford showing us this awesome machine from the past.

If they could do that in 1993, imagine what we could do now for the same price in 2019. Now that’s something to think about.

@canyousub8255

5 жыл бұрын

Nasa pc

@HitPointG

4 жыл бұрын

Engineering + time = money?

@sberryscake

4 жыл бұрын

pixar... thats what we do in 2019

@dnebdal

4 жыл бұрын

The boring answer is probably that you'd buy a decent enough workstation for < $10k and spend the rest on rendering servers. A rack full of high-spec x86-64 servers isn't as _cool_, but it's a lot of computing power.

Back in the day i used to talk to my friend about how 500Mhz PC's were going to be to much to handle for humans

@SangheiliSpecOp

5 жыл бұрын

Turns out you were right

@Ellis-rq6oz

5 жыл бұрын

Cyka blyat 8ghz

@lightningboof9796

5 жыл бұрын

LMFAOOOO

@moses4188

5 жыл бұрын

640kb is enough for everyone 😉

@CpCubeR

5 жыл бұрын

Watches on phone with over 2 ghz

Really enjoyed that thank you, what an absolute beast that is, looking forward to more of your videos

6:10 Apple: "Let's do that, but worse."

Thanks for making this Dodoid! You're understanding of "how we got here" will give you a great perspective on today's technology. I sold many of these and Onyx 2's - Larger systems to run simulators and VR Caves. A few systems were in the millions - I worked at Apple in 1988-1993 and then to SGI. It was a great place! IRIX and MIPS forever!

*Here I am in 2019, still using an 2nd gen core2duo with 2GB ddr3 ram. Never felt so poor before.*

@iCore7Gaming

5 жыл бұрын

Lol that's worth like £10

@nvdss9599

5 жыл бұрын

Hey man, i feel you. Im in the same boots and i feel you.

@deepakkumarshaw8958

5 жыл бұрын

@@deadpixel_1614 That's still pretty good man. You should upgrade to core2quad. If possible upgrade to a lga775 g43 motherboard which supports ddr3 ram. DDR2 is too slow for gaming, it limits the total performance.

@inderawahyudi2182

5 жыл бұрын

Just patiently save money bit by bit, you can upgrade it eventually

@mipa3948

5 жыл бұрын

I've got a core2quad Q6600,3gb ddr2 and Gt 710

I feel like this dude watches Doug DeMuro

@Dodoid

5 жыл бұрын

*T H I S*

@farmerdave33

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe. He's at least 1 t-shirt short.

@MSProductionsT

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha. I thought the same thing

@LoonaticOrbit

5 жыл бұрын

Wheres the doug score though

@whoismarkjones9283

5 жыл бұрын

Why is doug everywhere i go lmfao

Good to see new blood with so much enthusiasm towards really geeky stuff. Thanks for finally bringing me up to speed on Silicon graphics, three decades after we used it as a milestone in computing in our vocabulary as little geeks.

@barrywilliams991

4 жыл бұрын

Milestone then . . . Millstone now!

Legend has it he's now paying off he's parents credit card in 2019.

@furryballsploppedmenacingl8534

5 жыл бұрын

Replacing all the furniture he sold too

When I was getting my CS degree I saw these machines and at the time it was incredible. I hope you appreciate what you've got there and how jealous I am. To me it's one of the coolest things to see young people appreciating old school tech, especially sgi, which was absolutely unreal at the time. You do a great job on these videos but you dish out info like a machine gun. Amazing work. Even though an Onyx is completely impractical, I would love to have one to play with. Glad you got one and an can fathom what it meant to people like myself at the time. I would like to see a video of how you repaired it and got it running, you're an amazing kid to even want to do that.

the T-Rex from Jurassic Park loves this video

@kyle-9203

5 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same.

@TheUngoliant

5 жыл бұрын

Arcadio? eres tú xD?

@ark333

5 жыл бұрын

Fernando? XD

@LuizPessoa777

5 жыл бұрын

That´s where the T-Rex was made! IoI

@solarstrike33

5 жыл бұрын

Makes sense since SGI machines assisted with the VFX of that movie. (you can see a Crimson in the movie itself!)

Brilliant vid, a rare insight into some very unusual i/o configurations

Great video. I love those old SGI systems and had the good fortune to work on them for part of my career.

@mapesdhs597

3 жыл бұрын

What did you use them for? Always on the lookout for unusual historical uses of SGIs.

@adam872

3 жыл бұрын

@@mapesdhs597 A few things, such as visualising seismic data and reservoir simulation (basically, computational fluid dynamics).

@mapesdhs597

3 жыл бұрын

@@adam872 Excellent stuff! I helped sell an Onyx & Challenge rack set to a GIS company in Glasgow for exactly that kind of work. Years earlier I talked a fair bit with some oil company guys about such things, BP I think it was, also with Chevron in Nigeria (they had a POWER Onyx). Did you ever move up to the Origin type systems? Their better memory arch gave a big boost for CFD and similar codes. Hmm, are any of the SPECfp95 codes similar to CFD calculations? My SPEC95 comparison using the same CPU in different SGIs is here: www.sgidepot.co.uk/r10kcomp.html

@adam872

3 жыл бұрын

@@mapesdhs597 yep, definitely used Origin systems. We had one for running our software builds, as well as similar work to what I mentioned before. They were beasts for their time.

@mapesdhs597

3 жыл бұрын

@@adam872 Certainly were! It's a shame though the CPU design density had been set for the TDP of IA64 (so SGI told me) as that meant a rack only took 16 CPUs; they didn't fix that until O3000 when it was finally the 128 per rack it should have been for MIPS. I bought an Onyx3800 in 2008 from SPI in CA, that was a laugh, though terrible timing re the effect of the economic splat on shipping costs (because everything was defined in USD): gainos.org/~elf/sgi/nekonomicon/forum/3/16720350/1.html

16 gigabytes of RAM In 1993 My PC has half of that

@theskeletonboi

5 жыл бұрын

It's incredibly slow RAM though.

@nonenothingnull

5 жыл бұрын

Baffled

@zackburkhart6521

5 жыл бұрын

skeletonboi faster than what you have

@maxheim3802

5 жыл бұрын

@Zack Burkhart nope. Current standart for ddr3 is 1600MHz and 2666MHz for DDR4. DDR4 is coming up right now with >4000MHz. Back these days the ram was at a few 10 or 100 of MHz but i dont hv Numbers.

@dageek1000

5 жыл бұрын

was it SDRAM?

I was in my 30s in the 90s. I was a programmer for companies like Control Data and Scientific Games. I remember SGI had a stellar reputation for graphics, and I think they also did some custom rendering for movies, too. Also, after I saw Super Mario 64 running on the display Nintendo 64 at Target, I had to have one. Pretty neat how SGI more or less introduced 3D super-computing power to the masses. Very nice video! You have an impressive knowledge of this machine. I'm glad someone like you is around to look after it. I have subscribed. All good wishes.

@liffei420

5 жыл бұрын

I think SGI Workstations were the PRIMARY systems for CG in movies during the 90's, until the move to more proprietary systems.

@tehf00n

5 жыл бұрын

Did you make any slot games at Scientific Games or were they into other things back then?

@antonnym214

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, Tehf. I misspoke. I meant to say Software Sciences International. I confused the two because the were in buildings close to each other and in my memory, I just picked the wrong one. It's been a long time. At ssi, we programmed in 8080 assembly language for projects like Hospital supply inventories. I have a friend who works at Scientific Games now, and it's mostly slot machines and video gambling machines. I don't know what else they do.

An excellent review video. I’m very impressed with your presentation style. Keep up the good work!

I would absolutely love seeing more of that cyberastronomy demo it just looks so cool

The year this came out my family got our first computer. It was a 33mhz processor 486 with a 250mb hard drive and 2mb of ram. You had to bypass the windows 3.1 startup to play DOOM. My mom saw it on TV and bought it for $2,000 because they had the Britannica eycyclopedia CD and showed 144p videos of whales on it. Gas was only 78 cents a gallon that summer. Freakin birthday cards these days have chips with more processing power in them.

@DaVillen

5 жыл бұрын

Haha same here, I had the 25 mhz 386 and I ran doom on it.

@BillAnt

5 жыл бұрын

I actually had a 100Mhz overclocked CPU back in '93, with a ton of heat-sink on top of it, and an Orchid "high-end" video card... I remember it cost me a fortune. xD

@Iconoclast0w

5 жыл бұрын

My first machine was a 486 dx 33 too xD Forgot how much RAM it had or storage (obviously not a lot by today's standards) but I do remember it having a 1mb cirrus logic video card too xD

@Rudizel

5 жыл бұрын

lmao 144p video.

@MICHAELJD6

5 жыл бұрын

You needed 4 mb of RAM to play Doom.

90s 16gb ram? I want to know 2018 supercomputer, is it has terabyte ram?

@thomaswilson7990

5 жыл бұрын

A cray XC50 can squeeze up to 256GB per machine.

@vankuscarce5496

5 жыл бұрын

Actually yes about 3 to 12 terabytes

@diegoteclas

5 жыл бұрын

A common server with Xeon CPUs with the size a bit bigger than gaming PC, can have 2tb of ram, 8 graphic cards, and lots of hard disks.

@davaymyaso7816

5 жыл бұрын

Currently, the fastest PC in the world "OLCF-4" has 10,000 terabytes of DDR4 RAM or just 10 petabytes

@dainodawg3160

5 жыл бұрын

@@davaymyaso7816 what process could utilize anything near that?

The thing is so big, you can even use it as your desk xD

@arinroday302

5 жыл бұрын

Hebis using it to keep is cathode ray monitor though

@pardonthedank

3 жыл бұрын

he can use it as a space heater as well

@annonymousghostdetector8425

2 ай бұрын

or it can be use for breakfast table

The best video I have seen yet on an SGI workstation - especially taking it apart and showing how vastly proprietary that system really was - the good ol days of computers - you know, when they were fun. SGI blazed the paths for CGI that’s so commonly used today.

Silicon Graphics were THE dream machines back in the early 90's! They were years ahead of the pack. The first one I ever came across was in the Glasgow University physics department where my mate was given one for for his biophysics degree, for his research into 3D mapping of a fly's brain!

@DanielPembrink

5 жыл бұрын

I would love to see that work, do you still have access to those files? What sofwaware will I need to even read those files? Since the computer is 25 years old

18:12 when pluto was still a planet. RIP

@clashwithbat2283

5 жыл бұрын

it is still a planet

@symphony137

5 жыл бұрын

@@clashwithbat2283 It's a dwarf planet, which by definition is not the same as planet.

@lil_weasel219

5 жыл бұрын

It is a planet right now

@lil_weasel219

5 жыл бұрын

@@symphony137 no. It was brought back into the cathegory of planets

@freeaudiobooks7469

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck space. Waste of time

Fantastic video! I had the chance to closely see two Onyx stations in Monte-Carlo around cca 1996 and see one unassembled for troubleshooting. I was 16 at the time and still have the photos of me proudly posing next to the various system cards :)

fantastic clip, thank You!!

Couple of extra points worth noting: - The rack system supports up to three gfx pipes (adding a 3rd requires an additional card cage and 3-phase power), for a total of up to 18 output channels. - The Challenge server model, not having gfx, could support more CPUs, up to 36. The Onyx/Challenge racks I bought both had 24x R10K/195MHz (2MB). - Performance of RE2 depends very much on the number of RMs installed, as do various features such as available pixel depths and video formats. Dodoid's system appears to have up to 2 RM4s, the range being 1, 2 or 4 per pipe, using either RM4 boards (4MB texture memory) or RM5s (16MB TRAM). The TRAM does not combine between RMs, whereas the VRAM does, which is 40MB per board. - The default SCSI disks are HVD (High Voltage Differential, 20MB/sec), though the buses can be altered to run SE at 10MB/sec. Be very careful when working with such systems not to connect the wrong type of disk, or to the wrong connector.

The paper is a non-conductive barrier to prevent an accidental misalignment of a card, a component outside of spec, or conductive dust from contacting and shorting the card to the metal case. It's basically because the specs for the cards allow for components to possibly go all the way to the edge, and well, adding more to the case is way more then expensive then a sheet of "fish paper". These and the bigger cabinet systems were pretty fun to play with and work on back in the 90's they powered a lot early VR research tools. And although annoying the keyboard design wasn't a big issue as most of the time you ran them headless, and just used the serial port to do base of tasks until networking was up.

1.5m views and only 20k subscribers. you deserver more!

@rndmcmmnt

4 жыл бұрын

Because the title is appealing and the vid is not so great.

@SuperSerNiko97

4 жыл бұрын

He doesn't

Awesome video, dude! You are very articulate and you clearly know your hardware.

I'm a 40's architectural illustrator and i remember those really well, nobody could afford them unless you work for universal studios. lol. my humble setups were voodoo video cards from 3dfx Interactive, later Nvidia, running 3dmax from kinetics later Autodesk, nice video.

@BillAnt

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, in the late 80's, early 90's I had a $5,000usd fully tricked out custom PC with an Orchid video card, 16MB DIMM ram, 1GB hard drive one of those full height 5.25' monstrosities which cost $2,500usd basically half price of the entire pc. Just imagine what would $5K buy you today ;) Nowadays we have 64GB to 256GB SDCards on smartphones in our pockets... talk about tech advancements.

@Dmckdnsmssnsns

5 жыл бұрын

How are you still alive?

@acheronlv-4268

5 жыл бұрын

soft drugs and beer wont kill you until you are in the 90's, long time to go yet.

@ShiroZ31

5 жыл бұрын

My office had at least two onyx's that I remember, I used to use an O2 for my work and there were several indigos(?) and SunSparcs around too. The maintenance contracts for these things were 10s of thousands of dollars every year as well.

@acheronlv-4268

5 жыл бұрын

did own one. i restored her and sold her, plus, every time that i took it for a ride, park and walk away from it, when i was back, 10 guys taking selfies lying on top of the hood or begging for a ride. i have really bad social skills, you know....

I was always amused by SGI's system designs. Very colorful for the time when everything else was mainly beige or black.

Got recommended this video randomly and ended up watching (and enjoying) several of your videos so had to hit the subscribe button; hope to see more from you soon!

Thx for the info, in fact it was good general knowledge, to share about your ónix

That's a Desk Side Onyx, they only came with 2-4 cpus. Full size Onyx looked like a refrigerator and had up to 24 cpus. I worked on both of these, including the Crimson when I was an intern at a VFX studio in 1995. Later that year, we beta-tested SoftImage 3D (owned by Microsoft at that point) which had just been released a Windows NT version. The PC of choice was from a company called Intergraph which had one of the most powerful graphics cards available for Windows NT at the time. Side by side render speed comparison, the Intergraph machine was MUCH faster than the Crimson we had in the studio. This was the beginning of the end for SGI, they never took the PC threat seriously and ended up coming to the PC market several years later with an expensive, unreliable workstation which I ended up using at another studio for a time. Within 10 years, SGIs disappeared from all the studios except for use with Flame, Inferno and Smoke. Which are high end compositing and VFX applications that relied on the SGIs hardware and super fast throughput. Eventually, they too migrated away from the SGIs and now run on souped up PC workstations instead.

@basj1970

5 жыл бұрын

This is indeed how the story went. We had a lot of Indy's , Challenges and later O2s in the office. I used to work for the european distributor of SGI so I got my hands on lots of thoses machines. Even had one at home. I used Newtek's Lightwave on it to try go get into 3D modelling.

@basj1970

5 жыл бұрын

I have no SGIs but I do regret selling my Indy. Never got into 3D professionally. But I am doing some modelling using Blender though on a Macbook Pro. It sucks at rendering though. Cool that you still own all those machines. I don't think my wife would have these lingering in the house ;-)

@ericlampi2696

5 жыл бұрын

@@marander512 I started on the Amiga, first Imagine 3d, then Lightwave 1.0. I didn't even know they made an Irix version of Lightwave. Such an odd platform to port to at that time.

@calc2377

5 жыл бұрын

Also, SGI proprietry hardware doesn't help either. Where as you can run out to buy a generic mouse for the intergraph, you need to get back to the dealer to buy a simple mouse. Poweranimator was also the software of choice for these machines. Amazing that a Nvidia GTX now has more computing power on a PCIe bus than this behemoth. I was starting out with 3d and back then, 3dstudio ver 4 on ms dos was the main option for smaller studios.

@pants8029

5 жыл бұрын

Ah this brings back memories. I used to work at an oil company with a full size Onyx. It was used to load seismic data which was then projected onto a 180 degree screen. The geologists would manipulate the huge chunks of data to look for oil. At lunch, though, we would play Doom.

I remember my friends and I being amazed at these things back in college in the mid 90s. The things they were claiming with these bordered on witchcraft at that time. So glad people like you are keeping the spirit of SGI alive.

Great effort: congratulations and thanks for the wonderful video

1996. We had one of these and some sgi workstations in college for a VR class. Fun stuff.

No wonder people at the time thought VR was just around the corner with machines like this, unfortunately they would have to wait another 25 years to get it. I remember 93, we just got 14k internet for the first time on AOL, I was 6. The only games our computer could run were things like tank wars on floppy disk.

@Stuntzii1

5 жыл бұрын

lols tank wars. took 10 seconds to update the screen

@user-tu2gg6dl9j

5 жыл бұрын

Omg lol AOL... memories

@MartinAston00

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah... lol.. it was around... we’ve played... and it was pretty decent given when I played it was 98’

@user-tu2gg6dl9j

5 жыл бұрын

Doom 3 Quake 4 i think

@CigsInABlanket

5 жыл бұрын

How many people in 93 actually knew this existed though? Not only that, when I hear the price of 250000$, I know it has a long way to go before becoming mainstream. P.S VR still isn't here. I do not consider wearing goggles with screens in them and joy sticks/motion sensors in your hands to be VR.

Oh man! I remember when I was so fascinated by everything SGI had on offer! This was a dream back then when ILM used to render Terminator 2 on such monsters... thanks for the video and memories! Subbed👍

@user-nb3xu8yw6h

2 жыл бұрын

Terminator 2 1991 😅

I would love a full series of this, going through the most powerful computer from every few years, like the most powerful computer in 1996, 1999, and so on

Wow, great teardown video. Thanks!

@loveplane737

Жыл бұрын

you're welcome

Ahh. Memories :) This was my development machine back then - we were doing a 4 channel sim with motion base. The price isnt quite right: Thats the "base" model. Depending on what cards you purchased. You could buy: RM Cards (Render Managers) GU Cards (Graphics Units) - these were like GPUs but you needed good RMs to have good performance. Memory Cards And some video specialist cards (video in/out and channel managers/mixers). Cards generally cost between 25-50K _each_ And with a decent setup you could have 250K of just cards :) The SGI guys I dealt with here in Aus, were generally useless - they sold us very shit RM's and GU's and basically had a machine that was very poor in 3D performance for the machines abilities. Once we replaced the RMs and received some great assistance from the US tech support, we were rocking. It was my first ever development in shaders (I wrote some rain, and snow shaders for the train sim) and posted solutions for particle rendering on Performer. Good times. Fond memories. Thanks for the video - its a very clean/nice example of a great machine. Btw. Their memory and processor system actually became the industry standard, and is still used by Intel and AMD today :) .. The crossbar system was crazy, and awesome :)

@jbondhus

5 жыл бұрын

How far ahead of consumer machines were these things? Assuming that the architecture was compatible, would you be able to run something with similar graphical fidelity to half life 2, from 2004, on it? The demos obviously aren't stretching the capabilities of the hardware, so I'm really curious what $250k would get you in 1993.

@freddyli5356

5 жыл бұрын

Do you still working on CGI today?

@anjhindul

5 жыл бұрын

You didn't watch the video did you?

@GroverAU

5 жыл бұрын

@@freddyli5356 yes still working with simulators in defence and AR and VR systems as well. Its been around 25years of electronics, PLC programming, games programming and simulation architecture. Some awesome experiences especially with SGI and the Onyx's bigger brother the Origin 3000 series. Good times :)

@TruMoist

5 жыл бұрын

David Lannan yet you weren’t even born when this came out kid hahah

Nice electric radiator for cold winter days. Adequate settings. I used to work on SGI workstation back in the days when 3D animation was = to Softimage and the Onyx was always set alone in a large room where 'the expensive stuff no one had the right to touch' used to stand. It's funny to see a kid (no offence) playing around with that very same stuff a few years later. I still have a piece of SGI harware though : the screwdriver they used to pack with the Indy's optional extension board. Very handy screwdriver. Still usefull as day one when the rest of the hardware is now just crap.

@Asdayasman

5 жыл бұрын

That's not a great deal of time.

@srfrg9707

5 жыл бұрын

Joaquín Nuñez That's kind of rude! 😉

Nicely done man.

Why is this video so... comforting?

It's a UNIX system... I know this!

@cupcakethesabertooth6802

4 жыл бұрын

Alan: *The door locks! Ellie boot up the door locks!*

@Teddy_Bass

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Hansen Im going to check this out now

@vanchuvega3696

4 жыл бұрын

You got the like!!! Jajaja

@panwarhappy9368

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen indigo running same OS

@henderstech

3 жыл бұрын

Clever girl.

Duuude, you went far and beyond with research and documentation of this particular hardware, I must say. Wow, just wow. Keep up the good work, subbed!

Good video man, that's quite the machine!

Great video, dude. Go ahead!

Had no idea Doug Demuro reviewed computers too

@scope81

5 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed the quirks and features of this machine.

@roryparrish4200

5 жыл бұрын

Christian Mcmillan haha I wish i didn’t get that or think it was funny

@samspace81

5 жыл бұрын

no one knows me :(

@HomerPimpson911

5 жыл бұрын

But he doesnt look like Doug to me

@viewer54322

5 жыл бұрын

Better than hoovie

Keep doing your thing. I always appreciate a thorough, detailed, and honest breakdown/review of anything, and you did a solid job.

what an interesting computer man, thnx for the effort to show everyone :)

Dude!!! I would tell people stories of how my mom's work had SGI stuff! I was a little kid amazed with this... I had a 1992 IBM/ps2 with a 25mhz at home and this was just magic!

That was a really great and informative video! I worked on an SGI Indy back in 1996 (Yes, I am old!) when I was a Animation student. I never knew what it looked like inside (Obviously, they were not going to let students peek inside such an expensive system.) At the time we used Soft Image as the 3D software. It was a great learning experience and I now teach 3D graphics and game development. Excellent work, I wish you much success with your channel, keep it up!

Excellent job explaining this machine. I wish all KZreadrs were as good at getting to the point as this guy is.

Nice job with your video. Thanks for sharing.