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@death_parade

18 күн бұрын

This submarine was supposed to be the low-end of Indian submarine fleet. The high end was supposed to be P-75I class. That project still hasn't taken off yet. Or should I say, it has had multiple starts and restarts, just never reaches a contract signing stage. Now, even the Navy seems to have given up on this and is going to give it one last try after the elections and if it doesn't work, they'll simply move on to P-76 class submarines, which are meant to be completely Indian designed and built. Navy was keen on P-75I because P-75I would have allowed India to absorb tech from literally the best diesel-electric boat money can buy, and then use it for P-76 class. Anyways. At least the P-75A class SSN project is underway independent of all this B.S. on the diesel electric side of the fleet. Frankly, Indian surface fleet is already massive, more massive (in terms of tonnage) than Russian or Royal Navies. And getting close to JMSDF. Will surpass them by next decade, with only PLAN and USN still ahead. But underwater, the picture is pretty bleak for the Indian fleet. Will take more than a decade to reach JMSDF levels, forget Russians.

Indian navy Operate six submarine Scorpne class And discuss more 3 Buying scorpne plus class submarine

@enzohumeau8864

Ай бұрын

Greatings from France =)

@death_parade

18 күн бұрын

Will be 9 Scorpene class in few more years. Frankly, the Navy should have ordered those sooner.

An interesting perspective on air-independent propulsion systems. Good video anyway.

Thank you 🙏 ( weapon detective) channel for sharing this remarkable video about Scorpene classes submarines without AIP . Designed commissions by French and Spain for several countries.

@teddy2738

Ай бұрын

DISEÑADO X FRANCIA y co-fabricado con España ( de hecho el SCORPENE 2000 es un diseño CONVENCIONAL de un Submarino Nuclear de ataque clase Ametyste Francés ).Fue una Co-Fabricación pensando que España compraria el diseño para fabricar 4 o 6 unidades para su Armada y al final fue la ACH la que los compró en 1997 , siendo el 1er. cliente del Scorpene 2000 CM

Um ótimo vídeo parabéns toda equipe da Weapon detective

Thank you for the information👍👍👍From Malaysia 🇲🇾

A video on South korea's kss III submarine 🙏

As often said, it is good enough to do the job. More importantly, it does the job at a lower cost than the alternatives.

Indonesia choose Full Lithium ion battery version for its future submarine.

I think on the general characteristics each type of Scorpene has a different engine. for example, Scorpene evolved Li-ion Indonesia will use an MTU 4000 engine.

There's a mistake, the Chilean Navy did use the Scorpene and the Type 209 for ocean patrols, at least in the EEZ, specially with the chinese fishing fleet

Indonesia has not yet operated this submarine.Indonesia just signed the purchase contract on April 2 yesterday.It's just been made yet. How can it operate??

@WeaponDetective

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your interest. When we loaded the video, we learned the news. There was no time for re-reading. As you may notice, we noted four user nations in the introduction section, not five. So, we had already mentioned Indonesia in the conclusion section. We cut it and pasted it to the users section, which includes both current and future operators.

@javierbrito4436

Ай бұрын

Chilean Navy, as the first customer of the then all new and untested Scorpène, as a prize for it's confidence in Navantia&DCN's project, gets around 1.5 US$M per each new submarine sold.

Phosphoric acid sounds like an accident just waiting to happen.

@louismechler4338

Ай бұрын

Why ?

@death_parade

18 күн бұрын

Does nuclear submarine propulsion sound like an accident waiting to happen? Curb your bias. PAFC fuel cells are even used in some buses in USA and Japan.

Riachuelo class 🇧🇷🇧🇷

JAI HIND 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 Very nice and informative video..

nuclear > lithium ion > aip NL specified no AIP in their requirements and chose Blacksword Barracuda PS: the 2nd nuclear powered Barracuda, the "Duguay-Trouin", entered active service today

@jojoanggono3229

Ай бұрын

What you said is over generalisation. Aip and battery power is supreme in coastal defense. Where nuclear is supreme in blue ocean scenario. In coastal scenario you need a smaller, agile, and extremely quiet platform. In blue ocean scenario you need propulsion power and endurance of nuclear platform. I imagine nuclear platform is mainly for offense whereas aip or battery better suited to defense.

@passantNL

Ай бұрын

@@jojoanggono3229A nuclear platform is for those who can afford it. NL wanted a blue ocean platform without the expense of nuclear propulsion. It’s really a compromise between capability and price.

@regarded9702

28 күн бұрын

​@@jojoanggono3229 I believe nuclear subs ability to avoid surfacing at all puts them leagues ahead of all non-nuclear boats. In the age of satellites and algorithms (and possibly AI) capable of combing through images of entire oceans, once you surface you have been found.

@death_parade

18 күн бұрын

@@regarded9702 Lithium ion boats also don't need to surface, do they?

@regarded9702

18 күн бұрын

@@death_parade it is my understanding that they can go 1 to 2 months without surfacing. Better than traditional diesel electric submarines but still nowhere near nuclear ones.

Japan, which was all big about AIP, is also returning to batteries. New batteries are far more interesting than aip.

Indonesia not already operator of scorpene yet.. Chile,Malaysia,India n Brazil is current operator..

The AIP system is actually like a nuclear reactor but with electrical energy It is a system that increases the autonomy of the submarine when submerged. But it has a disadvantage because its recharging period is twice as slow as compared to the electric Disel submarine without the AIP. The submarine S-80 and S-81, which is the Scorpene, but the Spanish do not admit this, they use the AIP, the French Scorpene also has the AIP system in some units, and today there are several types of AIP, depending on the form But wide Yes, the AIP system is expensive depending on the model you subscribe to. Brazil, India are the only ones besides Spain and France to produce the Scorpene under license, however there are differences between these submarines The Chilean and Malaysian Scorpene are the first original Scorpene produced Malaysia and Chile did not join the AIP due to cost and also because it was not necessary Even because the autonomy of the Scorpene Original is already an absurd autonomy compared to the U-212 and the same level as the U-214 Or if not even superior in some aspects of autonomy This without AIP As for the Indian and Brazilian Scorpene, modified Scorpene are different from the original in what sense They were designed again according to the needs of each navy in the case of Brazil it is the Scorpene Class Riachuelo in the Indian case it is the Scorpene Class INKS What's different about them compared to Scorpene The Indian Scorpene is slightly smaller in relation to Brazil's Riachuelo and obtains capable weapons systems to fire the BHRAMOS hypersonic anti-ship missile But it maintains its autonomy similar to Riachuelo The Scorpene Class Riachuelo from Brazil is larger and different from the INKS, its battery shell is like a second layer of lithium and ion batteries replacing the AIP Thus, Riachuelo remains 4 more days submerged and 6 more days at sea Totaling 24 days submerged compared to 20 days in INKS and 70 days at sea compared to 64 days in INKS Under construction, the Riachuelo Class Scorpene also obtains Brazilian weapons systems such as the MANSUP anti-ship missiles In relation to the original Scorpene from Chile and Malaysia, these numbers and capacities are limited Making it clear that the Scorpene Original's capabilities are superior to the U-212 and to match the Scorpene it was necessary to develop the U-214, which is basically an upgrade. The Modified or Upgrade Scorpene are more advanced submarines than the U-214 and its only rival today is the U-218 Regarding projects in each country Initially Spain and France in the development of Scorpene Original France acquired and made its class of Scorpene, and Spain made its class being S-80 and S-81 Chile developed studies and projects to purchase submarines and ended up acquiring the Original Scorpene Malaysia purchased its Original Scorpene due to the issue of replacing its old submarines India developed studies and projects along the same lines as Brazil India would have support from France in the development of a new nuclear-powered submarine, but due to some disagreements on the part of the French and Indians, the Indians chose the British To support them in their nuclear-powered submarine And finally, Brazil developed a submarine production project aiming to replace the U-206 and U-209 with U-212 due to the experience that Brazil had in building these submarines under license.But as France was a nuclear power and as Brazil wanted to develop a nuclear-powered submarine, France was chosen as a partner for support in the submarine. Brazilian Nuclear Propulsion Reminding many of you that Nuclear technology in the military area is not shared with any other country for obvious security reasons, not only for your country, which has this technology and capability, But also in geopolitical issues India does not have its own nuclear-powered submarine, its nuclear-powered submarine was rented from Russia When the Indians developed their nuclear-powered submarine, the hull and the reactor were basically under license from Russia. And why doesn't India develop its nuclear-powered submarine soon? This is exactly what India is doing now with the British, the submarine's nuclear reactor being Indian in the same mold as Brazil Brazil, unlike India, which does not have nuclear weapons, aims to have submarines of this size due to its very open sea in the Atlantic of the southern hemisphere. Diesel electric submarines, no matter how many there are, cannot do the job without mentioning that Brazil has its interests in the African continent and the Middle East Brazil is a decade away from fixing bugs and errors from a German civil nuclear reactor from the 70s-80s and converting it into a military nuclear reactor For your nuclear-powered submarine I will explain about the civil and military nuclear reactor: Civil nuclear reactor: aims to use nuclear knowledge in civil areas, such as medicine, cancer treatment, etc... Means used in several countries, mainly in Europe, I highlight Switzerland has 4 nuclear power plants for civil purposes And your sales of nuclear reactors are allowed as long as you follow the rules Military nuclear reactor: it is the prohibited area where you use Nuclear energy for military purposes, from submarines, nuclear weapons, aircraft carriers, etc... It is basically civil nuclear technology completely Aimed at the military sphere and this airline cannot be sold, it does not hurt and you need to fight against countries with these capabilities and even for security reasons, interrupt the UN inspection For you to obtain your complete development in the military nuclear area So how are the United Kingdom and France helping Brazil and India if military nuclear technology is not sold? India is already a nuclear power, it is evident that that country, in the same way that it obtained its nuclear weapons through British engineers, would be able to develop a reactor of this size, detail UK supporting The support from the United Kingdom is not very different from that of France, with Brazil only teaching how the nuclear reactor is assembled and how it fits into the submarine. France, in turn, is the same thing, just observation support where the nuclear reactor needs to be assembled So much so that the first hull of Brazil's Nuclear submarine containing the nuclear reactor was produced a few months ago But doesn't this imply the relationship between nuclear powers? Yes, it implies in the case of India the excuse was China This left the North American government, which authorized the United Kingdom to provide support Brazil already involved the French government a lot, but today Brazil has a good excuse Look what is happening in Africa in relation to Russia and France, French uranium comes from one of the French colonies in Africa And what does this have to do with Brazil and France and Brazil's nuclear submarine? Brazil has a huge amount of uranium, if France loses in Africa, it gains in South America, with Brazil providing this uranium in exchange, Brazil's nuclear submarine is completed without any French government's commitment to Brazil's nuclear submarine

@studytime2570

24 күн бұрын

lol appreciate the effort where did you receive info that 🇮🇳 got its nukes from the brits?

@studytime2570

24 күн бұрын

heads would've rolled in there if it were the case. Nobody gives you that. One has to develop it.

@paulo.s.kennedy

24 күн бұрын

@@studytime2570 Didn't receive it from the British, it was through British and Indian engineers At that time, from the 50s to the 60s, to the 70s, it was common for British engineers who were part of the Manhattan program to spread throughout the world as civil engineers and were illegally hired for construction. Nuclear weapons, this was one of the reasons that led to the NPT treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons in the world, it wasn't just British engineers, it was North American Soviets French and even Dutch and Germans, maybe in my comment you may have noticed that I said Germany That was common at that time. India was the last country in the world to develop nuclear weapons within this framework of British and Indian engineering. Pakistao did the same, joining British engineers in the 80s and 90s, but was blocked by the United States and soon after succeeded despite strong embargoes. As far as I know, India does not have embargoes in this area, which further justifies the fact that India was the last country among the United States, Russia, China, and the United Kingdom to obtain these weapons. Passively Another thing was that it wasn't just India that had engineers from abroad at the time China USSR United States France also had due to the Manhattan program On the American continent, Brazil and Argentina joined these capabilities through Germany and France, in which Argentina obtained the Franco-German joint reactor and Brazil a reactor of German origin. In which Brazil suffered major setbacks

@paulo.s.kennedy

24 күн бұрын

@@studytime2570 Yes, that's precisely why I said that military nuclear technology is not shared Today, any country that tries to develop these weapons will need to work hard. But at that time it was common for these capabilities to be passed on confidentially but at the same time leaving questions in the air. It was the case of Pakistan Iraq North Korea Israel now who knows Iran and everyone knows that Iran with these weapons will change the entire scenario in the Middle East An example of how the issue of Brazil's nuclear-powered submarine is so complex that AUKUS is using Brazil's program as a smokescreen for Australia to have its nuclear submarines In other words, when the international community is so committed to trying to take down Brazil's submarine program, Australia just needs to use the China argument that Australia has a free pass Furthermore, the nuclear-powered submarine is renamed the Conventionally Armed Nuclear-Propelled Submarine precisely to avoid further problems. And this is a nuisance

@danielch6662

10 күн бұрын

Neither the MESMA AIP nor the DRDO developed PAFC Fuel Cell AIP on the Indian Scorpenes are like batteries. They are NOT rechargeable. MESMA is a steam-powered AIP, with the steam generated by burning alcohol with oxygen stored at 60 atmospheres. Once the alcohol and oxygen are consumed, there is no way to un-burn them. You go back to port and reload with more ethanol and oxygen. PAFC Fuel Cells are, well, fuel cells. The fuel is hydrogen and oxygen, and combined into power, generating electricity. Again, the reaction is one way. Theoretically, the water can be split back into hydrogen and oxygen. Nuclear subs do that. But on an AIP sub, you don't have any fuel to do this. So again. You go back to port to reload with more hydrogen and oxygen. Subs can be replenished at sea. Even the diesel. But I imagine it would be rather difficult to do the same with pressurized oxygen or hydrogen, or LOX.

The news of detection of scorpene Indian submarine by Pakistan was false. They even published photo of floating submarine. Anyone can see a submarine out for snorkeling 😂

@death_parade

18 күн бұрын

Pakistan is the same country whose Air Force inaugurated a "war memorial" for the 2019 Air Skirmishes with India. In that war memorial, PAF had put two vertical fins on display. One they claimed was of an Indian MiG-21 they shot down (which is true because nobody ever disputed that fact) and the other vertical fin was of an Indian Su-30 MKI (which is weird because Pakistan never showed the crash site, or any other part of the plane and Indian Air Force obviously made it amply clear that no Su-30 MKI ever got shot down). Here comes the punchline: The Su-30 MKI vertical fin the Pakistanis displayed was of the same height as the vertical fin of the MiG-21. In case you still don't get it, google an image of a MiG-21 standing next to a Su-30 MKI and look at the difference in their size, especially difference in size of their vertical fins. With Pakistan, the jokes write themselves.

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they take women on Submarines ?

@erdiakarsu4945

Ай бұрын

It helps when crew become horny? I dunno.

@jospi2

Ай бұрын

Somebody has to do the laundry.

@easygroove

Ай бұрын

@@jospi2😁😆

The most recent Japanese submarines use en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taigei-class_submarine lithium-ion batteries