Hey there! I hope you liked this video, and if you did, consider becoming my patron! There's an alternate version of this video on there with some different takes, and I talk a bit about a video that I couldn't talk about on here, because the video was taken down for being NSFW lol. Anyhow here's the link! www.patreon.com/bigjoel Also, do check out that footnote about modern architecture if you're interested! I think I could have made my point a bit better in a few ways (the cost of doing it on the spot, I guess). But if I make another video about School of Life, I'll get more into. The video is honestly worse than I suggested, and I wish I'd gotten into the more complicated reasons why more.

@leaf2522

3 жыл бұрын

Pog

@grmpEqweer

3 жыл бұрын

I adore you and your work, but jeebus h crispy, Joel, that is the ugliest sweater I have ever seen! That looks like something a thrift store vomited out because it was too hideous to go on the rack. It's scorching my eyeballs. URGHHHH.

@MegaBizk

3 жыл бұрын

In case you’re wondering where all this BS comes from, it’s all Neofreudian psychology (someone who took a class from a Neofreudian professor)

@ashfox7498

3 жыл бұрын

This video was a rancid waste of time, I love you bby, talk to me about it

@Nobody_Special310

3 жыл бұрын

The reason you don't like The School of Life is that your parents fulfilled all of your KZread content needs when you were a baby.

Pro Tip: If someone with a British accent says something that sounds potentially profound, repeat it to yourself in an American accent just to double-check.

@DoctorPhileasFragg

3 жыл бұрын

It's like using Google Translate!

@mariebourgot4949

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the laugh. ^^

@snitterdog7276

3 жыл бұрын

when you live in the UK and are used to accents like this sounding off about the falling quality of supermarket own-brand baked beans it tends to lessen the effect massively

@kaitlyn__L

3 жыл бұрын

@@snitterdog7276 hahaha yeah same

@kaitlyn__L

3 жыл бұрын

@@snitterdog7276 also there's the innate hatred of poshness thanks to the class system :D

School of Dude Trust Me

@ruth078

3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@yoavsnake

3 жыл бұрын

+

@animeking17

3 жыл бұрын

Lel

@Stormthorn67

3 жыл бұрын

I took a psych class in school once. And I'm British.

@carolyntalbot947

3 жыл бұрын

😅

The worst thing about School of Life is the way it's framed like advice from a therapist or academic of some kind but it's just like... some guy's mediocre thoughts. It should be called, "Some stuff I think about I guess, by Alain Boton (some guy)". It would still be bad, but less manipulative at least.

@Bustermachine

Жыл бұрын

That's youtube in a nutshell though. Ultimately, youtube is just the video version of a 'blog' but with higher production values, and for people who can't, or don't have the time, to read. Almost everyone posting on KZread, with a few exceptions, has no real qualifications for the opinions they're spouting beyond personal anecdote. Some channels are reasonably well researched, while many are not. Heck, some channels are all but automated rehashes of other, more successful, channels. And this is only going to get worse with new voice recognition, parsing, and voice synthesis software turning the process of creating these videos into an entirely automated affair.

@L4wr3nc3810

Жыл бұрын

@Harrison Fross Spot on!!!!

@NoOne-tg9tk

11 ай бұрын

That some guy is a Great Philosopher you Cretin

@troycambo

11 ай бұрын

Facts

@fisharepeopletoo9653

11 ай бұрын

​@@BustermachineYeah people tend to forget the only thing you need to make a KZread channel is a valid email

This dude’s projection is so powerful, he should open a movie theater.

@thevioletbee5879

2 жыл бұрын

More like a couple dozen IMAXes.

@anonymouslearner2454

2 жыл бұрын

which meaning of projection is implied here?

@josephoyek6574

2 жыл бұрын

*Bruh*

@AA-sn9lz

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymouslearner2454 yes

@jack_rabid

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymouslearner2454 both. That's what a play on words is.

Is no one going to talk about Big Joel’s three identical, but differently-sized paintings

@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to bring it up but I was afraid I'd missed a joke somewhere

@Jammermaker

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t even notice til I read your comment lmao

@waterloggeddoggo

3 жыл бұрын

Its just that much of a fantastic picture i don't see the problem here.

@mintyartsy4346

3 жыл бұрын

Samuel Miriello we do not speak of them

@Gloomdrake

3 жыл бұрын

Not identical, one is faded

Luckily, my childhood was terrible, so all my adult relationships are completely satisfying.

@truther249

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, we did it boys, bad relationships are no more, because I had a shitty childhood and we are totally pleased with whatever relationship we have because at least it's better than what we had, because our standards will always remain the same as our childhood as we never learn from it

@zw6201

3 жыл бұрын

You will live until you die

@tinygypsy3707

3 жыл бұрын

SeashellAmerican don’t tell me what to do

@zw6201

3 жыл бұрын

@@tinygypsy3707 bitch you're already dead i can't do shit

@turquoisecrow4513

3 жыл бұрын

SeashellAmerican yeah well what if I’m not dead or alive huh? What if I’m an abiotic object? What if I’m just an igneous rock? Ever thought of that huh?

As a teenager who struggles with chronic depression, your section about adolescents felt very validating. Many people dismiss my feelings as just "teen angst" and I admit I do have some of that, but I also have feelings that need to be accepted. Thanks for not dismissing kids like me.

@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you have someone in your life who will truly listen to you and that you can work through your personal challenges in due time. Being depressed at that age is not easy, for the exact reason identified.

@00RoxPink

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 21 which isnt old obviously but i have a passion in how much i hate that people treat kids and teens like an all around joke of a human being. I think that often when it comes in the form of adults being condescending towards younger people or minors it's due to wanting to feel superior... "You think YOU know anything about the world?" "You think YOUR problems are bad?" Some adults dont recieve respect from people their age so it feels good to atleast imagine themselves as better than some 16 year old.

@ChristopherSadlowski

Жыл бұрын

I hope you're doing better, as I came across your comment 5 months after you posted it. Your feelings are real, simply for the fact that you feel them. I'm glad you recognize your normal "teenage angst"; you'll be able to separate those out from the feelings that you find truly concerning. Adults fucking suck sometimes. If you have access to any adult who is committed to mental health, be it a psychologist, your school counselor, or even a family friend or neighbor who will sit and actively listen about your feelings and opinions, I urge you to take advantage of their time. Especially if you can access a licenced psychologist; if you're parents have the resources to send you to see one, impress upon them how much you need their services. Also, everything you say to your psychologist is protected information. They can only tell your parents if they think you're about to hurt yourself or others and what they recommend they do to prevent that from happening. As someone with clinical depression (among other things) I also urge you to take medicine if it's recommended. It can take a few weeks to kick in, so if it doesn't work immediately give it time. If there's side effects bring then up immediately, even if they don't seem worth mentioning. And if something doesn't work, say so and try something else. I hope you can avoid all that though! You're a bright kid so I have a feeling you'll navigate your way through this. You deserve to be happy and comfortable. We all do.

@morbidsearch

Жыл бұрын

​@@00RoxPink This is the foundation of why so many people are dismissive of trans teens (not that most of them give a shit about trans adults either)

@starchaser777

Жыл бұрын

@@morbidsearch "you don't even know yourself yet!" bro and YOU, a literal SEPARATE HUMAN BEING from me knows me more than myself? and how can you know when i'll "truly know myself", then? what if i already know what i want or am while also being a teenager? lmao i can't handle these people

This guy just took every experience in his life and said "this must be universal"

school of life: You're sad because there's a disconnect between your adult life and your happy childhood. *everyone who had a horrible childhood: ??*

@Trinity-bb7vy

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, apparently it's important that you had a horrible childhood lmao, lucky you!

@AstraIVagabond

3 жыл бұрын

*Four attachment styles:* Allow us to introduce ourselves.

@overworkedcna412

3 жыл бұрын

@@AstraIVagabond *[Assertive communication and healthy boundaries have left the chat]*

I feel like the American perceived authority of a British accent is doing a lot of work for that channel

@dog-ez2nu

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. It is a fact that most TERFs have a Standard Pronunciation South-east English accent. Just don't call it British, you wouldn't understand a Glaswegian, let alone think they're talking sense.

@TheMarshmelloKing

3 жыл бұрын

Add a large dose of typical british cynicism and you can do some real damage

@DrORRB-qm7fl

3 жыл бұрын

It’s English- not british. As a person who is both Irish and Welsh I have a strong urge to remind everyone of that.

@slyrax4154

3 жыл бұрын

Okay, as I guess I'm going to keep on getting more pedantic responses, I feel like I need to specify that when I said "British accent" that I was using the American colloquial definition which generally refers to English accents, and specifically only those that are intelligible to American ears. Apologies for the Yank-o-Centrism.

@DrORRB-qm7fl

3 жыл бұрын

slyrax Fair enough. I just don’t like people treating all of britain as if it’s merely an extension of England. I hope that I didn’t make anyone feel bad.

"Nice people can be scary because we aren't used to it" damn School of Life who hurt you

This dude's literally making contradictory claims: - your childhood was SO GOOD and your parents were SO NICE to you, that now no other relationship can live up to your expectations - the only reason, why anyone would start a family is because your parents were BAD and made lots of mistakes and you want to try being a better parent like wat?

Everything old was better, girls dont talk to me, im smarter than everyone.

@alisaurus4224

3 жыл бұрын

Mmmm you sound sexy

@djknit

3 жыл бұрын

And probably it's because you're smarter than everyone that girls don't talk to you. Also you're just too nice.

@tyler9004

3 жыл бұрын

You’re probably too good for the girls besides

@mikehudgins8545

3 жыл бұрын

Genkai spitting facts

@krombopulos_michael

3 жыл бұрын

I was pretty much like this as a teenager, and I guess a lot of others are too, but still clinging onto this as an adult is really sad.

As someone who grew up in an abusive home, "You're unhappy in your relationships because your parents were so nice to you" is the WILDEST, most sheltered take I've heard in a while lol

@melm4251

3 жыл бұрын

yeah... that one really stuck out to me even in a video full of ignorant generalisations

@shadowpicaro

3 жыл бұрын

He probably had a fight with someone about him being an asshole and thought he was still in the right because their parents were good and his weren't

@calamitynatalie8590

3 жыл бұрын

Maggie - He will blame them for their expectations being “too high”

@kaitlyn__L

3 жыл бұрын

Milka - indeed :| (tho I do blame it for my issues lol, that's just, yk, the opposite of what he said lol)

@nadalekene2446

3 жыл бұрын

same 😒 also as someone who’s had abusive friends (whom i was vulnerable to because of early psychological abuse), the “friends are better” nonsense made me roll my eyes so far back in my head i think i saw god

So this is what the 2% dislikes on a School of Life video look like. And I love it! You helped me understand the unexplained bad vibes I got from their videos.

@Scerttle

Жыл бұрын

Right? I stopped watching their stuff years ago cause they just felt off in some way. Now it's been put into words.

@noname420

Жыл бұрын

@@Scerttle same here, i used to watch them a lot but after a while it feels like there really is something odd about them. so glad that i can finally figure out what makes me feel odd about watching 1 of their videos

@justshoby3374

11 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@troycambo

11 ай бұрын

This guy nailed it. Always felt queasy watching that pompous stuff but this video put it into a rational form

Me at 14 living in an abusive household: “Gee, I wish I didn’t feel like shit all the time” TSOL adolescent video: “Actually that’s completely normal and good and actually you should be grateful for this bad bad time you are currently having” Me: Oh. Cool I guess.

@pipzog389

Жыл бұрын

Everyone at 14 feel like shit all the time. 💀

@liiiiaaaaaa

Жыл бұрын

i hope you’re better now

@P-nk-m-na

Жыл бұрын

​​@@pipzog389 seems you missed the "abusive household" part theres normal feeling like shit and theres the shit you feel like when your parents/guardians are actively making your life hell

@MrSqueamishJam

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure what u watched had nothing to do w abuse..

@lambsauce5312

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrSqueamishJam i'm pretty sure you don't have a concept on what abuse is

School of Life really forgot about orphans, kids in abusive households, kids who live with neglectful parents, homeless kids, and immigrant kids

@grmpEqweer

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have PTSD from my dad. ....TBH, feeling happy, close and secure in a relationship feels too weird to me.

@joshme3659

3 жыл бұрын

Not even that. Many good parents express the difficultys they are under to their kids. And lots of people have unhappy childhoods for reasons outside of their parents. My parents are the most loving and wonderful people in the world but due to a medical condition i had my early childhood was mostly spent in a fair bit of pain. They forget about most people i would say. They idealise childhood well telling everybody to stop idealising adulthood. But neither should be idealised

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

3 жыл бұрын

Its super on brand for the channel. Like, they’ve made videos saying that suicidal tendencies result from a lack of imagination.

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

3 жыл бұрын

straw beary Well, then that’s just even MORE proof that the channel is intellectually insincere. Like, if they already had or went on to make videos where they acknowledge that abusive or unhappy childhoods not only exist, but have a HUGE impact on a person’s emotional development, then why would they make an entire video that relies on the premise of that not being a factor in somebody’s life?

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

3 жыл бұрын

straw beary Nah. Pseudointellectual at best, damaging at worst.

I would just like to add, my girlfriend is an animator and she has animated two school of life videos. What they do is that they get animators just out of university and hire them to do videos, but they give them a very short timeline, not much money and don’t give them much credit. They also for some reason don’t like animators using their work for their portfolios. A lot of her university friends have done a video and had the same experience. They kinda take advantage of newly graduated students and underpay them. That’s why people tend to do one video for them and then move on to hopefully better things.

@Bee-nw6df

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes. If anything, some of the animations are the best parts of SoL >.

@Dante3214

3 жыл бұрын

wow thank you for sharing this, not only are their videos bad (apparently) but now they are starting to seem like bad people

@user-account-not-found

3 жыл бұрын

You just described every job where you as a talent produce something.

@lacadam

3 жыл бұрын

Ryan R not really, not all freelance jobs involve bad pay, short workaround time and an employer who gets weird and defensive about putting your own work on your resume. They are not the worst employers by a long shot but they are not great either and for not real justifiable reason. Especially considering what they actually preach.

@randomtube2476

3 жыл бұрын

From a business perspective why would they pay more when they know people will continue accepting the job offer. So what happens if they put it on their portfolio. They send a hitman out to kill them or what. If they created the animation i dont see how they could stop you from putting it on there.

This whole "REALLY social people don't even like parties" sounds like some "I'm a sigma male and lone wolf, so I'm actually not an unsocial loser beta or a Chad alpha male, I'm just as good" incel copium. This whole echochamber of "don't change yourself, you're actually not flawed" is so weird. We're literally all flawed, we have self doubts, failed relationships, varying degrees of social competence, etc. What you're supposed to do is work on parts of yourself you think you could improve. I get that some people with self hate might need a nudge from a motivational video or something telling them they shouldn't feel helpless, but that should never substitute making a personal effort to improve yourself.

@bdstudios6088

2 жыл бұрын

The whole channel screams copium energy, in a pretentious way lol. As Joel pointed out, some of these explanations about life are so BS you have to wonder how he came up with them, yet Alain says them like they’re truth.

@NarcissistMargarine

2 жыл бұрын

@@bdstudios6088 it really seems like a demonstration of how anything, said with confidence against a well edited video, can convince some people to think the way they do.

@viktorthevictor6240

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with not liking parties though. Just throwing it in there

@NarcissistMargarine

2 жыл бұрын

@@viktorthevictor6240 oh yeah totally, I agree. I'm just saying that for someone who is totally socially inept they might interpret that point as validating to their lack of social skills as a whole. Like, it's okay to not like parties, and it's okay to be an introvert. But if you're the sort of person watching these kinda videos it's likely you're questioning your own social ability. Those sort of people often have social anxiety, and while it's completely valid not liking parties the implied notion that it's okay to be unsocial as a whole is backwards. The real kicker being that it's not only "okay" to avoid large social gatherings, but actually better and is indicative of you being "superior" to those who do. Idk the whole thing just breathes an undercurrent of appealing to a crowd of socially incapable people who harbour some self resentment and even jealousy towards the socially capable, and it's intentions really seem to be to direct that anger towards the latter, which is just mindless ignorance to a person's own flaws as well as being a very poor way to live. I've met many people who judge their own self worth by weighing themselves against their peers and it's always bad, when you have to put down others to feel better about yourself it's always fucked.

@thenamesianna

Ай бұрын

Incredible how this "sigma male" echochamber is like the "fat acceptance" echochamber but for boys

The other problem I would identify with the "romantic relationships are bad" argument is that it seems premised on "if we only judged romantic relationships by their worst possible effects, we would not want them," which is an incredibly empty argument because (1) it's true of anything, and (2) why would it be productive to try and actually understand anything by looking only at its worst possible qualities?

@leaffinite3828

2 жыл бұрын

Right, like if i ignore everything about pizza except that one time i burnt my tongue on a hot slizza then yeah fuck pizza but why on earth would anyone do that

@apollo1573

Жыл бұрын

@@leaffinite3828 this is a stupidly good analogy lmfao

@tartas1995

Жыл бұрын

​@@leaffinite3828i think your apology is great but i think it is missing 1 thing. You burning your tongue was an experience that you would have had. Their argument doesn't make their point with experiences that you had but the potential negative experiences. so it would be you loving pizza but rejecting it because you could maybe make the experience of burning your tongue.

@RickJaeger

Ай бұрын

Old comment to reply to, but I wanted to say with regards to number two, that you would be doing that out of abundance of precaution. If your overriding goal is to avoid negative experiences, rather than to seek out positive experiences, then it makes perfect sense to judge things by their worst possible outcomes.

@TheatreofPhil

Ай бұрын

@@RickJaeger I recognize that sometimes people do, in reality, think this way. But it actually doesn't make perfect sense, because it ignores the possibility/likelihood that being lonely because one avoided relationships could also be a negative experience. I suppose one could argue that the worst possible outcome of a relationship would be worse than the worst possible outcome of being lonely, but even this calculation doesn't help one "actually understand" the two things, as I originally wrote.

School of life: youre dissatisfied with your relationship because of your nurturing relationship with your parents Me, who was abused by my parents: 👁👄👁

@Oldschool747

3 жыл бұрын

How does it feel to never be dissatisfied with your relationship?

@TKUA11

3 жыл бұрын

You’ve got a point here. Maybe that’s why this Joel guy hates their channel too? Why else would someone hate such a wholesome channel?

@AliceDiableaux

3 жыл бұрын

My aromantic and thus extremely happily single ass who was severely emotionally neglected by my parents: ??????

@jits8767

3 жыл бұрын

@@TKUA11 because the videos make outlandish claims that are unsupported, did you even watch the video?

@urmomisurdad5422

3 жыл бұрын

Jits Fingers Nah he’s probably just as flippantly contrarian as school of life

Big Joel's unscripted videos are just like his scripted videos, just with more sass

@tomdavis6118

3 жыл бұрын

Sassy!

@lilgorgo

3 жыл бұрын

Vibey, chillin 😎

@Gloomy_Ghost_Grave

3 жыл бұрын

*_sassy_*

@hagarzertal8024

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

The thing about parties was so obnoxious and pretentious 😭 Straight up sounds like something a teenager would make up to feel better abt not being invited to their crush‘s birthday partx or smth

Personally think a friendship is a lot like a romantic relationship just without the romantic part.

@grantking2880

2 жыл бұрын

Totally. The only way I can comprehend the perspective SOL presents is if I try to imagine only ever having toxic romantic relationships and very shallow friendships. If you really get close with someone, it is hard to accept the idea that it is possible to avoid normal relationship growing pains.

@williamoldaker5348

Жыл бұрын

I struggle with plutonic relationships.

@peachesandapricots5010

Жыл бұрын

i hope that as i grow i’ll be able to have strong friendships, bc i feel like those connections are needed most

@supermagma

Жыл бұрын

romance is friendship+

@thenamesianna

Ай бұрын

Yup, you nailed it

Kind of reminds me of prager u. They are saying something with such a tone of claim authority that your subconscious accepts it as fact until the rest of your mind catches up and says “wait no, fuck that.” It’s like if the gps of your car told you to turn right into a field, your brain initially accepts that at first and then realizes that the gps is bullshit when you see what’s around you.

@isthisshit4real

3 жыл бұрын

Whenever we went out, my tech obsessed ex-bf INSISTED on following the GPS cuz, u know, "oh, I trust it," instead of letting me guide him back to our house the fastest way. Dude I've lived here since 1968 - I KNOW this place better than your DAMN computer!! I don't like depending on tech to get stuff done when I don't HAVE to. Yes, it's convenient, but I'd rather get a picture of where I'm going in my mind - then fall back on the tech if I have a problem. I didn't even have roaming/data on my phone until a couple of months ago. I'm an introvert, why would I need it (actually, I did when I was driving back and forth to see my ex...)? Damn, I don't need no tech if I'm going anywhere in my area, or within several surrounding counties. Even into the next state I'm good, that's where my ex is, so I got used to travelling back and forth on the freeway. No way, man. Not taking the download. We live in the damn Matrix. Can't see the bad guys ("sentinels" but you know who does bad stuff) yet - but I know this place ain't real. Figure reality has shifted a few times now. Some people figured it out some are still stuck on red/blue. There ain't no red/blue. There is only purple = HUMANITY = we are one. No. I do NOT mean QANON. Lol! I mean all humans have value - ALL of us are spirits having a human experience. We are starseeds. We are children of the Creator - the Universe.

@christianschmidt2915

3 жыл бұрын

"Damn, I don't need no tech if I'm going anywhere in my area, or within several surrounding counties. Even into the next state I'm good, that's where my ex is, so I got used to travelling back and forth on the freeway. " You drive a CAR but don't need "tech" while doing so? I guess you didn't think that through.

@Aplesedjr

3 жыл бұрын

Christian Schmidt many people don’t understand what technology actually is before they start ranting about how they don’t need it or it’s nothing but pure evil. A chair is technically technology, but you don’t see anyone complaining that they don’t need chairs.

@jemolk8945

3 жыл бұрын

@@christianschmidt2915 It's an inaccurate use of the term, but honestly, it's not that big a deal. We can still get the idea, yes? And quite frankly, it's probably a good idea to avoid overreliance on things like a GPS, or any other closed-source code. Not to the point of paranoia, sure, but if you can get away with not using corporate programs without too much difficulty, do it. I mean, unless you _want_ to be manipulated into buying stuff you don't need and can't use by ad companies that use harvested data for very targeted ad campaigns. Because you can never trust closed-source corporate programs not to harvest your data without consent.

@christianschmidt2915

3 жыл бұрын

@@jemolk8945 Not that I don't agree with you on privacy concerns and the reliance on digital gadgets, but that is not my point. Cars are a good example, as they shape our habits, social structures, cities, the way we do commerce, our social networks, the political landscape, power structures and natural environment in profound and, more often than not, harmful ways. But they are not part of "the Matrix" the commenter is concerned about. They are just a fact of life for them, while "Tech", which means digital networking technologies and the necessary user devices, I get that, is evil in and of itself, it seems. That is not thinking critical about technology, that is Just superstition. Also, the stuff about red, blue, purple and god doesn't help their case, but that's just my opinion, I guess.

So we start families because our childhoods weren’t good but then we feel unfulfilled in our relationships because our childhoods were good actually? Did I get that right?

@mltiago

3 жыл бұрын

Bad childhood makes things worth.

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

3 жыл бұрын

Read that twice and still feel weird about it lol. I think ill just say... hang out with people that like you...

@carolyntalbot947

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, you've got it down. You're ready to start your own channel, and spread this wisdom to the masses.

@postmodernityarmageddon

3 жыл бұрын

I caught that too

@lilyk3734

3 жыл бұрын

You had a good bad childhood, I guess

I remember watching one of his videos on why sexless relationships are inherently flawed and as an asexual, it was painful. But then I saw a video on why the oedipus complex should be brought into your sex life and I brushed off any invalidation immediately.

@tonyisnotdead

8 ай бұрын

i don't understand why that's painful. it would make sense for an uncommon condition such as asexuality to be bad for relationships. just like narcissism and psychopathy

@jackmclean4120

8 ай бұрын

​@@tonyisnotdeadAsexuality isn't a 'condition', though. It's a sexuality.

@friedtea9969

7 ай бұрын

​@@tonyisnotdead yes because relationships at their core are about sex 😒 you know how shallow that sounds?

@tonyisnotdead

7 ай бұрын

@@jackmclean4120 are the two mutually exclusive?

@tonyisnotdead

7 ай бұрын

@@friedtea9969 it really isn't shallow. sex is one of our most primal desires. replace sex with love or respect and you'll see the stupidity of your comment

6:40 It’s just such a narrow definition of “party”. Imagine if someone said “truly athletic people hate sports, because you spend most of your time either sitting in the dugout or standing around in the outfield hoping that a ball comes your way”. Or “real film buffs hate movies because they’re nothing but car chases and endless fight scenes, punctuated by the occasional implausible explosion.” And I don’t know how the speaker has any idea what is “average” or “typical” for a party, but I’d bet that “have a dozen friends over for BBQ and a movie” or “have 6 friends over for boardgames” are at least as common as “Animal House”. Maybe SoL’s observations are valid for the sort of party where it’s too loud to converse and everyone is drunk and high-but that’s not every party.

@Mari-rg9ov

19 күн бұрын

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@Mari-rg9ov

19 күн бұрын

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@Mari-rg9ov

19 күн бұрын

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Nice things to comment on the internet: "I had a very nice time" "Thank you" "I like the colour of your hair"

@sabrinadebos4113

3 жыл бұрын

I also like the colour of your hair

@josephfoster1987

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@sharkknight9564

3 жыл бұрын

I like to look at you while you're sleeping.

@AnimeFan9833

3 жыл бұрын

I had a very nice time reading this comment last night

@dvffy_dotcom

3 жыл бұрын

I like the color of your hair, I don't know it but I think it's pleasant

"We are sad later in life because our parents were so nice to us." But also: "We only start families because our parents were so terrible." Wow much thought, very smartness.

@americantoastman7296

3 жыл бұрын

"now thats a deep thought, innit??"

@IMakeVeryDumbVids

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, that makes sense if you accept both claims, right? People with nice upbringings may be unhappy about their relationships, and people who are unhappy with their relationships are less likely to have longterm relationships that lead to children, so most people who have children did not have very happy upbringings. The claims aren't true but they're not contradictory either

@juliocbp9389

3 жыл бұрын

It's the same technique psychics use. They would say: "You're an introvert person... but you sometimes feel the need to look for relationships" or "You're an extrovert... but sometimes you feel like being on your own". And suckers will say "OMG, how did he know??"

@NineSeptims

3 жыл бұрын

@@americantoastman7296 I'm british and I hate the fucker too

@TKUA11

3 жыл бұрын

Why so salty? Can’t you let people put their ideas on KZread?

honestly i got into watching School of Life in a pretty vulnerable state in my personal life and at the time it was genuinely hard to think critically and differentiate fact from opinion, its almost shocking to look back and imagine myself absorbing this shit and it having actual harmful effects on my mental health, thanks for the video

“Its normal for teens to experience agony so they are more satisfied with their next 6 or more decades” is making me sit here, shaking my head with my PTSD, chronic depression, and personality disorder. The statement sounds like someone who did struggle with mental health a little, and I do not want to fully discount that experience, but I cannot imagine myself or any of my friends who have had extreme mental health issues ever saying that. Its horribly ignorant, full stop.

@joevaghn457

10 ай бұрын

How would that be ignorance if they experienced it and gave that sentiment? Makes no sense to me.

@infernoglass_

8 ай бұрын

​​@@joevaghn457​@joevaghn457 it is ignorant to valorize suffering for many reasons but i think most of all because it "redeems" the suffering or even endows it with a "meaning" (i.e. "suffering builds character"). It seems obviously questionablr to me to tell people who endured contingent suffering and or cruelty and who are still suffering from the psychological consequences that "their trauma is good actually". This becomes obvious in extreme cases, people who end up severly ill or otherwise debilitated obviously do not benefit from that. imagine telling a holocaust survivor that their suffering actually served them becoming a "better" more "resilient" person.

@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel

7 ай бұрын

​​​@@joevaghn457"this sounds like someone who did struggle with mental health *a little*" Who coulda guessed, the guy who confidently proclaims that 99% of the comments are unreasonable also repeatedly misunderstands comments and tries to blame the OPs for it. I couldn't write something funnier if I tried.

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

6 ай бұрын

Does he know that the next 6 decades aren't exactly sunshine and rainbows either? Oh, of course he knows, he'd just blame it on us being "weak" and "lazy" instead of the system screwing us over.

"why truly sociable people don't like partying" sounds like something your mother would say when trying to convince you not to go to a high school house party when you were a teenager.

@braden_m

3 жыл бұрын

I feel bad but honestly I just couldn't stop thinking "dude must have never been invited to a party and is now salty about it"

@screamingcactus1753

3 жыл бұрын

@@braden_m Or he went to one, didn't like it and decided that was everyone else's problem. His videos seem to have a theme of taking an entirely subjective opinion and turning it into this profound objective truth that's only contradicted when something goes wrong.

@sorryifoldcomment8596

3 жыл бұрын

And how can you prove that you are actually "sociable"...if you never interact with other people. The word simply doesn't apply. Words need to have meaning. Not interacting with society is not compatible with the label "sociable." In the current English language, at least.

@sorryifoldcomment8596

3 жыл бұрын

^referring to how "School of Life" misuses the English language. It drives me crazy.

@eduardoribeiro6734

3 жыл бұрын

@@screamingcactus1753 i see a lot of it actually, some people that i know avoid social interactions and parties because they consider the masses to be "shallow" and "futile" while them themselves are not that interesting, intelligent and deep as they think themselves to be. I mean, i like to have deep conversations and to talk about philosophy, history and similar topics, but sometimes all i want to do is to sit down on an easy chair, drink, smoke and talk rubbish... Conservatives are too cocky.

We can’t keep letting British people and their alluring accents get away with this.

@jjjorp

3 жыл бұрын

British "people"

@lionguardant5468

3 жыл бұрын

alain de botton is swiss i think

@Phantom_Mountain_Art

3 жыл бұрын

"alluring" lol they're not, though. Also, this guy is not even British.

@thevastwastes6314

3 жыл бұрын

I'm 90% convinced that the only reason Sargon of Akaad's gotten as far as he has is because his accent obscures how wildly ignorant he is about literally every subject.

@totorosdad965

3 жыл бұрын

妖魔白骨精 everyone from Europe is British to me

“Sometimes people get sad, and that can get caused by a lot of things” would actually be very comforting to hear from a channel revealing itself as a mental health channel

I have an attachment disorder (among other things) because of childhood neglect. I constantly have issues with feeling like my needs aren’t being met because I have incredibly high and low expectations depending on what it is. I was never shielded from “the burden” my parents took by raising me. If anything, it’s been proven that having a healthy childhood makes your adulthood relationships more stable. That is much more believable

That theory of "parenthood makes us disappointed for romantic love" sounds extremely Freudian

@romankotas448

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not a Freudian slip, it’s a Freudian titanic

@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't even make a lick of sense, when presented as matter of fact and absolutist. If everybody, throughout history, has gone through this process of having a happy childhood with loving caring parents, then grow up and find themselves on a spiral of unhappiness and disappointing relationships, the how, how is it possible for the parents to had had a healthy relationship when raising the person to begin with? Are parents not people? are they thise magical entity that exist just to breed unhappy incels? Make it make sense!

@delusionnnnn

2 жыл бұрын

The animation clips seem very Freudian and suggestively Oedipal. I'm sure the SoL anti-party genius knows his Myers-Briggs type, being a card-carrying Jungian pseudoscientist.

@saiashwin26

2 жыл бұрын

And psychoanalysis has been refuted many times.

@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse

2 жыл бұрын

@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 the probably when people try to psychoanalyze without a shred of psychological education is you end up with comments like these which aim to discredit things they dont understand for the convenience of simplicity and familiarity of self assurance that what you know is all you need to know and the world of the unknown is unnecessary or misguided. Theres a reason why these topics require years of dedicated research that a short 20 minute dismissal wont provide. It also requires a certain degree of openness to appreciate what you can learn with also the humility to acknowledge the valid criticisms that might not make us feel very comfortable to acknowledge.

Sounds like the guy who says he's not a feminist but an egalitarian.

@delve_

3 жыл бұрын

The chuds who say that kind of stuff never consider that they can be a feminist AND an egalitarian at the same time.

@blarg2429

3 жыл бұрын

I used to be that guy. Then I grew up.

@coldestshark4310

3 жыл бұрын

blarg2429 same lol

@gyz9599

3 жыл бұрын

blarg2429 for real. that was me circa age thirteen

@jvniprbrry

3 жыл бұрын

@@gyz9599 lmao same here

I've never heard of this channel before, but based on what you've presented here, it sounds like it's entirely devoted to explaining away this guy's personal failings. "I'm not a selfish and inattentive boyfriend, romantic relationships are just supposed to be harmful."

Someone *hurt * this man, also this is just proof that you can smuggle right wing talking points into the main stream as long as you make it seem non-ideological and sound soothing while saying it

@keto0303

4 ай бұрын

You are really crazy. Get help!

I also hate how unnecessarily verbose it is, it’s annoying as hell. Like instead of saying “bagels are good” they’ll be like “these Jewish bread treats are delectably simplistic in all their toasty soft glory.”

@SuperKaBlooey

3 жыл бұрын

Part of me kind of likes the second way you phrased your praise of bagels, especially "toasty soft glory." XD

@aujeanrhee4171

3 жыл бұрын

I think you are missing the point by making the second sentence sounds good

@alanamontero4743

3 жыл бұрын

I imagine that all born-to-the-upper-class Europeans like Alain talk like this, though I could be wrong. Not exactly my circles lol.

@johnl9361

3 жыл бұрын

If you deliver it with British accent, it will hypnotize Americans

@inflorire

3 жыл бұрын

The second one is more poetic and playful- I enjoy it. It conveys not only the idea that “bagels are good” but also conveys the texture, warmth, and heritage of freshly toasted bagels.

Everything The School of Life says has the same energy of the guy who told me "You dress nice. Would you like to go on a non platonic outing with me?" In junior year physics class

@suryatejaaddanki4649

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh Yes totally non platonic

@kiyote437

3 жыл бұрын

"Greetings, milady. Dost thou desire engagement in a courtship ritual with myself?"

@andrewboyko8304

3 жыл бұрын

I read this and immediately pictured in as a scene from Big Bang theory 🤢

@Shyguy5104

3 жыл бұрын

So you think that guy was a terrible pseudo-intellectual because of that one phrase? yeah okay first impressions are eveyrthing I guess

@takethewordss

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shyguy5104 If someone said that to me and they were serious, yes. Yes I would assume that about them, sorry. lol

I was one looking for a short video about friendship for an ESL class and used one of theirs because I couldn't find anything else under 7 minutes. It was so individualistic, I decided to make a "watch the video and say why you disagree with it" activity. And even before I gave the students leading questions to say why they disagreed with it, they were already saying it was dumb.

that last video was such a pity party "someone left a mean comment on one of my videos and it hurt my feelings. please don't do again i might cry"

that sweater is FRESH. king

@madhatt3r93

3 жыл бұрын

All of his sweaters are tbh :o

@rotisseriepossum

3 жыл бұрын

he saw Alan from The Santa Clause and said ‘Yes.’ We have no choice but to stan 👑👑👑

@choronos

3 жыл бұрын

It's a remarkable sweater. I wish I knew where he found it, and if there are more like it.

@TheMicroMotion

3 жыл бұрын

choronos by my eye its a coogi sweater, or at least inspired by the coogi sweater. biggie smalls famously wore them, so its only natural big joel has one too 😛

@choronos

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMicroMotion Google confirms that you're certainly correct! Thanks!

The worst thing of all is they call all of their KZread videos "films."

@jacky9575

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, their animations are good

@eoincampbell1584

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacky9575 So is the narrator, but those aspects just amplify the illusion of good information and well constructed arguments that they want to put out.

@UkuleleVillain

3 жыл бұрын

yikes

@MethCrystal666

3 жыл бұрын

John Maclean does that, but he makes it work

@bagandtag4391

3 жыл бұрын

cringe

I can’t believe my suspicions on School of Life’s advice being bullshit were true. I watched their video “Are You Difficult to Love?”, and all it did was put me in a depressive state and make me believe I wasn’t worthy of love and that people were just putting up with me to be nice. I still have issues with feeling like a burden, and I can’t say that video is what caused it, but it definitely contributed if only a little bit. Edit: In retrospect, this comment doesn't get my point across. I was writing this from a place of spite, similar to how I vent, and that anger was unnecessary as being upset over a video likely wouldn't aid the strength of my argument. If I had to reword what I was trying to express, I'd say that self-help videos in general are meant to be useful to the most people they can, which means making sure to consider the variability of one's experiences and accommodating for as many as possible. Personally, School of Life failed me in that aspect, but that doesn't necessarily invalidate the people it did help. I don't want to put anyone at fault, but I do want to draw attention to that potential issue.

@eduardochavacano

11 ай бұрын

It is not BS. But if are not well read on philosophy and paychology it can be dangerous. On a creative level, the videos are excellent and very powerful. It aint fair to call it BS. Because their are other channels that are super cringe. The channel is great. But its mainly for the masses.

@condensed_sam

11 ай бұрын

@@eduardochavacano I see your point. When you make videos, you have to cater to a wide audience. Then again, what one considers a “wide audience” is up to them, and from what I’ve seen, the channel’s idea of a wide audience seems to leave out those who’ve had trauma or are suffering from certain mental illness. It feels worth it to be considerate about how one’s advice is worded, since a channel that people may supposedly go to for self improvement may draw in people who might not be in the soundest mental place, and a video entirely explaining how one’s struggles in love is an issue on their part may not be healthy advice for all. School of Life’s advice can be helpful, but I think Joel’s point is that a blanket statement shouldn’t be put over a topic as complex as mental health. I just wanted to express how I was one of those people at the time, and how I agreed with his point. I admit, though, that I may have worded it strongly, and I’m sorry for that.

@Noise_floorxx

11 ай бұрын

Boy go to therapy! A single video not made directly about you shouldnt be able to do this to you. This is not the videos fault.

@MoonchildDontCry

10 ай бұрын

Maybe you are a little bit difficult to love. And that's okay. We are trying our best and people who have gone through some sht in life will always be more difficult to love than someone conventionally attractive with a good childhood.

@condensed_sam

10 ай бұрын

@@Noise_floorxx yeah idk what's wrong with me. I can't get therapy rn, but I want to eventually just to know how I'm screwing myself over.

I was honestly shocked to see you made a video on this channel. I have a strong personal attachment to this channel because it’s videos on past philosophers and writers got me back into reading. I never really watched his other videos though. I think school of life has a sense of self confidence in his ideas that probably stems from personal experience and philosophies that he personally likes. It probably wouldn’t be so problematic if all this stuff wasn’t about self improvement and mental health. Because of the gravity of these topics, he has a responsibility to be correct.

All of School of Life videos in a nutshell: “you’re single...mommy issues...yeah you’re depressed!”

@flux.aeterna

3 жыл бұрын

Tl;dr: TSOL is a diary into the whining mind of sheltered ~special~ boi who needs therapy...and a wake up call

@chaodan3029

3 жыл бұрын

Waot when did Sigmund Freud get a youtube channel?

@lynackhilou4865

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaodan3029 was gonna say the exact same thing , lmao

@wordart_guian

3 жыл бұрын

he's basically a psychanalist then

Other people had an embarassing emo phase, I had an embarassing School of Life phase

@Lemonnitenite

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@ShutItKyle

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

@zacharysmith5049

3 жыл бұрын

There's nothing embarrassing about an emo phase.

@bingbongjoel6581

3 жыл бұрын

Lib&ccio We’ve all had our incel phase, right? I can make that claim and it will broadly include everyone, right?

@yuekuzekurosawa2729

3 жыл бұрын

Hey my emo 'phase' just evolved and now im a goth trans UwU

Big Joel I usually love your videos but this was a rancid waste of my time. Could you talk to me about that? Could you explain to me a random internet person why the video wasn't a waste of my time? I respect you muchly and eagerly await your response.

Saying parties are misanthropic is some real “I don’t have any friends” shit

@Tretas.

Ай бұрын

Sounds like Alain wasn't invited to bday parties as a kid and has been coping ever since.

Another case of a soothing well enunciated voice tricking us into thinking an argument is good

@shitlordflytrap1078

3 жыл бұрын

It's too true. At least they showcase good artists in their video.

@BobardeZanzibar

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you talk that way about Big Joel.

@scarymonsterzz

3 жыл бұрын

B-but...he’s BRITISH! That means he MUST be smart, right? /s

@suburbanweekend

3 жыл бұрын

Nelson Thangjam oh you know it helps if they use big words and unnecessary adjectives!

@The5lacker

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, the anti-Hbomberguy approach.

Alain de Boitton is the world's most divorced man

@Tavera12

3 жыл бұрын

This comment is wonderfully perfect LOL

@DrewShotwell

3 жыл бұрын

That's a oof from me captain

@localgrandparent1007

3 жыл бұрын

Poor sad white man doesn't like buildings hah

@melm4251

3 жыл бұрын

perfect summary as always, Olly

@asuka_the_void_witch

3 жыл бұрын

like really?

That bit about the "viciousness of the insults" that happen when you love someone tells me that the person who wrote that script has never loved someone in their entire life. They talk about an abusive relationship like it's love. I feel for that person and hope their life gets better, but judging by the way they talk about other humans, and the way they seem to think their preferences and opinions have to be objectively right, the prognosis isn't great. Edit: And it gets so SPECIFIC, assuming their individual, weird hangups are universal to the human experience. "You know how we all decided to become parents when we were 14 1/2 so we could to Dad that we could do it better!?" but without the "no? Just me?" And I don't know what I was expecting from the Internet comments vid, but it sure wasn't "want to grouse? Use a thesaurus to look more polite when you whine!" Not "point out specifically what you didn't like, give constructive feedback, suggest ways to improve," but "tell them they suck in a quasi-intellectual way and demand an explanation" is actually more of a waste of time than the shorter complaint for writer and reader.

This is amazing, dude's making a whole channel trying to explain his terrible life and resentment towards others away with pseudo-psychology and trying to make it sound "smart" by saying it with a soft british voice.

Jesus Christ, every day it passes the more I realise how close I was to being an actual and proper incel. It's terrifying how easy it us to fall for that kind of stuff and how hard it is to get out. I honestly believe the only thing that kept me out of it was having a significant amount of female friends

@alanhegewisch4486

3 жыл бұрын

A while ago, while I was going through a tough time, I started watching Jordan Peterson videos. They sort of made sense and resonated with me. I then told my (female) best friend about them and I felt so foolish. Not only did I have a hard time actually explaining WHAT they were about, the implications of so many of them were so insidious. I then realized JP has no concrete points but oh boy does he love alluding to creepy shit.

@user-yq3jg9kr3t

3 жыл бұрын

I can relate to that, but instead of being an incel I was so gaslight by their videos i began to push away people i considered my second family and began to have a toxic outlook on human relationships I already had. It wasn't until I really went to my therapist to talk about this i saw how flawed the channel is.

@mctuna7058

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that a few of his videos seemed down to earth and more of a cup half full type of thing but than again I’ve only watched like 3 videos every couple years lol

@alanhegewisch4486

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanj2106 I'm really glad you made it out too. I feel the same way about him, it's sad how effective his pseudo-intellectual-talk-about-nothing is to make you feel like life is simple and you're just doing it wrong, hence why things are not going your way.

@KaylaNoelle1

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on avoiding that vicious cult. They say they are looking for friendship and support but then once they are thoroughly brainwashed they sit there laughing about their online "friend's" suicides. All they really want are misery and destruction.

This sounds like someone trying to extrapolate his experiences onto everyone.

@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540

3 жыл бұрын

The one about girls only going for assholes sounds like he went through a nasty break up

@dougthedonkey1805

3 жыл бұрын

His perceived experiences, you mean

@WobblesandBean

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's exactly it. He's saying "my experiences are universal, my subjective ideas are objective fact and they apply to everyone". It's the epitome of arrogance.

@turquoisecrow4513

3 жыл бұрын

Just Beyond The Corner Productions Incel philosophy

@hangukhiphop

3 жыл бұрын

@@WobblesandBean tbf I've been following the channel for a while and I've noticed that most topics have near duplicate videos that cover a variety of independent lines of thinking. I'm pretty sure that the Alan guy who runs this channel only writes a fraction of these and only narrates full-time.

Ah yes, the fabled "happy childhood". I wonder what the rest of us are supposed to do.

In regards to the first video you mentioned… The first thing I thought of are oppressed and impoverished people who grow up in awful situations: abused, neglected, no secure attachment to an adult that loves them. There is ample evidence that these people struggle more in their adult relationships than people who grow up with happy childhoods. Secure attachment in childhood to an adult who loves us is practically a prerequisite to happy adult relationships. It is the foundation, the framework for relationships in general. It shows us what we should expect from people who love us. It allows us to expect and demand it. It’s not that people who grow up without that happy childhood can’t ever have a happy relationship, but they will have a harder time of it. The truth is literally the opposite of what the video said.

My ex husband loved Alain de Botton. I'd never seen anything but a few tweets from him before this video. Really appreciating my divorce in a new way today.

@WobblesandBean

3 жыл бұрын

It's a blessing you got away from that.

@SerebiiWarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Alain de Botton is the word 'stilted' personified.

@nitehunter91

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I hope you and your ex have become happier people, then

Imagine thinking Skyscrappers look the way they do because an evil guy wanted to make it look ugly and not because it is the cheapest way to build a building this tall.

@bloodywonder16238

3 жыл бұрын

LOL Quite the leap of logic. The first thought that came to my mind when thinking about buildings is efficiency. To state that there are people out there who design buildings solely for the sake of making them ugly and getting away with it because “beauty is subjective” is pretty strange.

@busessuck1

3 жыл бұрын

Yah... Imagine thinking arguing for taste and cohesiveness when it comes to buildings... Wacky stuff

@shineymcshine

3 жыл бұрын

@@busessuck1 See that's not the argument being had here at all. Congrats.

@TheWinterscoming

3 жыл бұрын

Well people argue that the fact that pyramids exist in multiple cultures must be aliens instead of just "Well if you make a big pile of rocks it won't fall over or burn down so lets do that" Being the easiest precursor to large scale architecture.

@martinramirez21

3 жыл бұрын

There was art deco fashion at the beginning of modernism, and it continued into the fifties. I like it more than most present-day architecture. But TSOL ommitted these facts from its video.

to be fair I only go to SOL for their philosophy/literary explanations, mostly because they're accurate and easy to remember. Self-help in general always makes me a little skeptical because it feels like the persons that promoting the message often has an agenda or reason beyond wanting to help. So yeah, SOL is pretty decent when you go for their more objective analyses/informational dives on prominent thinkers and philosophies.

@thatsdisco

2 жыл бұрын

the architecture video was utter shite though, Functionalism as an Architectural Movement existed because they needed to save on costs after the war. So, it was more important to house people than to make it look pretty and extravagant. But yeah, their legit philosophy videos are pretty okay

@TupolevTu16

Жыл бұрын

​@@thatsdisco And I personally think it's not that ugly, it's kind of like what happened to brutalist blocks, when painted and adding some green areas around they can look pretty good!

@joshuamlnarik5942

Ай бұрын

I'd argue that all their videos are of the same shit caliber; the shitty thoughts of a shitty person with shitty ideas and enough resources to flesh them out via shitty animations on a platform that's wildly profitable and incentivized because people are fucking stupid and impressionable and will like subscribe and comment on even the lowest caliber shit. It panders to all things low-hanging-fruit. Don't twist into a pretzel being an apologist for a dumb assholes echo chamber of diarrhea.

@nicolaiqbal6823

10 күн бұрын

​@@thatsdisco Great to meet another 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿Scottish person on KZread - only Scottish people use the phrase "utter shite" with such passion! And yes, a lot of the postwar functionalist brutalist housing built in Scotland did turn out to be utter shite!

what happened to this guy at exactly 14 and a half

So what happens to people born without their parents support? They just have fantastic relationships? Damn I'm so unlucky. Lol.

@nukiradio

3 жыл бұрын

The deeper subtext is "If you're sad in your relationship, just lower your standards"

@takethewordss

3 жыл бұрын

Right? I had a shit upbringing so by that logic I should only have amazing relationsh - Oh, wait.

@matthewstephenson5781

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but then they go on to never have any children or get married, because they've got nobody to beat in that area

@user-nw1je1ur6t

3 жыл бұрын

Yhes, thats what they always say "dont avoid partners with bad family relationships" right?

@Hayden_Cat

3 жыл бұрын

takethewordss this 1000%

the duality of man: "thank you. I love the color of your hair" and "unsubbed, wanker"

To be fair, we do have sensical scientific support for childhood attachment types being indicative of certain expectations towards romantic relationships in later life (starting with Hazan & Shaver 1987). School of Life's approach to it is very rudimentary, but as a psychologist I feel like I kind of understand maybe what they've read and tried to summarise terribly.

@katyajovich2308

21 күн бұрын

But what he said goes against attachment theory. He describes a securely attached relationship with parents (all needs are met, child feels 100% safe and understood/attuned to) and then claims *that* would correlate to becoming an adult with low relationship satisfaction… ? As you’ll know, the opposite is the case within attachment theory.

7:35 the title “the advantages of being just good friends” made me think of the concept in sociology of the ‘strength of weak ties’ where weaker social ties with someone can bring you more opportunities. It would’ve been an actually cool video if it was about that.

The worst thing about this channel is they hire really talented animators and I love the animation styles they use. How dare they.

@slothymfer

3 жыл бұрын

I was the 69th like, nice.

@heliumtrapeze69

3 жыл бұрын

Agree entirely yes I couldn’t stop thinking that as I watched!!!

@GrausamerKerberos

3 жыл бұрын

It's the worst because they don't need to make such bold and swallow statements to attract viewers. The creator must be really determined to share his weird world view.

@muyou6589

3 жыл бұрын

I also really like the narrator...

@skippykay599

3 жыл бұрын

And the narrator’s voice is really soothing too?

Okay but TSOL genuinely harmed my psychological state as a young teenager and older. They had all these videos about how you shouldn't break up with people because nobody is perfect and you probably won't be able to find anyone better, and it made me feel like I was a terrible person for ending relationships that weren't working out, to the level where I stayed in an abusive relationship despite the fact I could tell something was very off and I didn't want to be with this person. TSOL seriously warped my mindset around my relationships in a really misogynistic and just terrible way. PSA to any young people reading this: dump them. If it feels wrong, if they just aren't what you're looking for, if they treat you weird, leave their asses because ultimately the most important relationship you can have is with yourself, and you break your own trust and individuality by staying with the wrong people.

@macmcmullan3675

3 жыл бұрын

Coming back to this because I thought of something else: all the videos about relationships make it feel like relationship problems are always your personal fault for being psychologically damaged by uuuuh Freud stuff, but like, spousal abuse is extremely common and that message is a terrible thing for people in that situation to hear??? Not only is spousal abuse common, but so are relationships that are just not working or fulfilling enough. No-one needs to blame themselves more for relationship problems unless they are actively creating those problems by being a dick.

@vonnegut6108

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the sort of channel that sounds like it’s being backed up by some psychological study, but when you actually look into it, it’s just out their ass

@cuckoophendula8211

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'm really sorry you had to go through something like that and that you've found yourself in a better place now. Abusive relationships are no joke especially when it gets to the point when you lie to yourself about how things are going. And while I don't know a lot of their videos, but this whole "most important relationship you can have is with yourself" ironically sounds like a video that they would make.

@chokinonashes61

3 жыл бұрын

@@macmcmullan3675 🤗

@OurBrainHurtsALot

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they're not a good channel, I also used to watch them as a teenager but I don't think they did that much damage to me, because I think I dropped them quickly. Alain has this morbid freudian fascination that we all want to fuck our moms and that made me stop taking him seriously. I'm thankful for them for the fact that they introduced me to the stoics. After that, I actually started reading stoicism and attending stoic lectures from phds in philosophy and then, I went back to the SOL video where they introduce stoicism and I realized it was a terrible video that completely misrepresents stoicism. I figured all their other content is like that. Pop physolophy that misrepresents actual philosophy. However, their self-help stuff seems to be even more toxic.

I’m obsessed with this sweater. Sometimes I just watch the videos where he wears this sweater for the sweater itself

Hey Big Joel, I'm puzzled because I generally very much admire you, and I don't entirely see the point of what you seem to be doing. It would be lovely if you could explain things from your no doubt very legitimate perspective.

As a person who’s studied architecture for undergrad purposes, hearing the guy describe modern architecture as “suddenly the capitalist elite decide how things look” is such a flawed understanding. Architecture is and always has been ruled and controlled by those with money.

@theapplechapel

3 жыл бұрын

The point he's making is that those with money and power bought into the idea of subjective beauty which allowed objectively ugly buildings to be built. It's a kind of emperors new clothes situation where no one thinks the new design trends look good but they all agree that they look good. Property developers profit off this because the new buildings are cheaper to make. Meanwhile a large portion of regular people who have not bought these ideas continue to think the buildings are ugly but have no say.

@nitehunter91

3 жыл бұрын

@@theapplechapel What's your sollution to change this?

@weareallbornmad410

3 жыл бұрын

@@theapplechapel That's not really true, though. There were no property developers back in "palace times". The very fact that that's who builds modern cities represents a giant change in architecture, and is (one of) the basic reason(s) why said cities are built cheaply and quickly... and end up looking the way they look, whether we like it or not.

@marccolten9801

3 жыл бұрын

Even the pyramids?

@damiendonahue2812

3 жыл бұрын

theapplechapel but that’s kinda ridiculous. Throughout all of history we’ve tried to balance function, cost and beauty and that’s what we’re doing now. If you don’t like it that’s fine but all that means is... you don’t like. That’s just your opinion and that’s good but people can like things that you don’t because beauty IS subjective. It’s not some evil cabal. It’s just fashion combined with necessity.

If a fourth painting of that girl in the red dress with the cat appears I’m gonna loose my mind

we were in absolute hysterics at "i like the color of your hair" like, that's a fair comment to make if someone's dyed their hair a cool color, but like, after sex with someone who has a seemingly normal hair color seems a bit weird??

@rayafoxr3

Жыл бұрын

I don’t see why it’s so weird?? It’s delivered awkwardly but it’s sweet

I had an amazing time watching this video, I love the colour of your hair.

the whole “we have families because of our shitty parents” completely undermines the theory that we are unhappy in relationships because our childhoods were good and our parents shielded us

@Madhatter1781

3 жыл бұрын

Our boy playing both Engelbert and Charlemagne today!

@AliceDiableaux

3 жыл бұрын

Also in my personal experience and what I see from many friends around me is that if you were abused or neglected by your parents you are much _less_ inclined to start a family. If you know that you never had anything resembling a good example of parenthood and also still carry deep-seated traumas and unhealthy coping mechanism with you that you will never quite be able to shake the rest of your life, then you're much more likely to say: 'Fuck this shit, abusive parenting and trauma has been echoing through the generations of my family for far too long, I'm breaking the damn chain and remaining childless.' For me personally that's a big factor in why I'm never having kids.

@rickstarz

3 жыл бұрын

Weirdly I think they did actually cover this back when I was subscribed: "How To Be a Good Parent" or something. The channel is a mess and each video contradicts the next.

@tirone7520

3 жыл бұрын

@@AliceDiableaux same

Love the circular logic of “it’s good to have bad parents because that will make us start families because we want to be good parents” - like, doesn’t that imply that wanting to be a good parent is a selfish way to treat your child?

@d.w952

3 жыл бұрын

Then because you were a good parent and that makes you selfish, you're actually a bad parent, and thus the cycle renews

@Coeurlarme

3 жыл бұрын

Well no. See the highest state of human existence is to not create anymore humans, as life itself is flawed and pain. We are good parents, thus giving our children a happy childhood and teenagehood, and if we’re good enough parents we can break the cycle of life, bringing our bloodline to its ultimate state: extinction. (joke btw)

@scaper8

3 жыл бұрын

@@Coeurlarme I'd say that they have some interesting, if highly flawed, nihilistic philosophies. But let's be real, jokers like this "School of Life" guy or the ones who actually talk like your comment aren't smart enough to even make a decent self-destructive nihilistic argument.

@jasper3706

3 жыл бұрын

It also implies that parents shod be deeply offended when their kids have kids which is a fun new spin on reality and how all that works

@abhyudaykrishna9714

3 жыл бұрын

Being an anti-natalist myself, I don't think it's necessary to think that all life is pain and misery, to be an anti natalist.

As an architect, who has studied history of architecture, "traditional" and "modern" to be reductionist, that is not how things happened, and that's not why they are the way they are

I’m puzzled because I generally very much admire you and don’t entirely see the point of what you’re doing now. It would be lovely if you could perhaps explain things from your, no doubt, very legitimate perspective.

the voice-over guy in those videos sounds like he's gonna lecture us on why "nice guys finish last"

@prageruwu69

3 жыл бұрын

@Ah Bee yup

@kickinit7881

3 жыл бұрын

i’m an idiot so when i saw your comment my brain immediately went “he’s gonna lecture us on the green day song?”

@prageruwu69

3 жыл бұрын

@@kickinit7881 honestly that would be way better

@carolyntalbot947

3 жыл бұрын

Your name is such an excellent troll. 💪

@prageruwu69

3 жыл бұрын

@@carolyntalbot947 thank you

i think the “not quite conservative, but definitely weirdly stubborn and very pseudoscientific” vibe you’re picking up on is because the school of life is neo-freudian in their principals and a lot their theories. it feels like incel shit because they’re drawing influence from the biggest incel ever to grace the psychology field

@JamesFTW1

3 жыл бұрын

virgin peterson vs extra virgin olive freud

@smy3486

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesFTW1 this comment killed me and my children

@Crabby-Abby

3 жыл бұрын

"The biggest incel ever to grace the psychology field" is genuinely the best description of Freud I have ever heard thank you lol

@cuckoophendula8211

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh neo-Freudian, which makes sense since the basis most of Freud's theories hinge on ad hoc fallacies.

@Big Joel I'm puzzled because I generally very much admire you and I don't entirely see the point of what you seem to be doing now. It would be lovely if you could perhaps explain things from your, no doubt, very legitimate perspective.

@uny3231

10 ай бұрын

🤓

Unfortunately this is quite standard in therapy; they will assume you have an unhealthy fault pattern rather than you have an actual valid reason to be upset

This guy really did make a whole channel just to tell on himself

@rmj8905

3 жыл бұрын

I mean that's kind of all of social media really. Everyone telling on themselves.

Everyone's pointing out the inconsistency of the childhood comments, but no one mentions the inconsistency of: "Nobody likes kind people. Kindness sucks." "Friendship is the best social relationship because it allows us to be, above all, kind."

@alexsmith2910

3 жыл бұрын

Good point.

@sottosopravoce

3 жыл бұрын

Or, "We're unsatisfied in romantic relationships because they can't live up to our parents, whose flaws and failings prompt us to seek out romantic partners. "

@poopsmith890

3 жыл бұрын

Wait sorry where is the quote "Nobody likes kind people. Kindness sucks." from?

@fz_dracohart1255

3 жыл бұрын

@@poopsmith890 it's from the section of "why girls are scared of nice guys"

@erasmus9511

3 жыл бұрын

I understand what Alain said about friendship tho. It’s not necessarily the “best” but compared to romantic relationship, friendship is more filtered. We show our romantic partner our darker side, which is true. But there are definitely external factors on why that’s the case.

A sophisticated accent, serious tone, minimalistic animation... MuSt Be TrUe

brb putting "known man" on my business cards

Saying friendships don't have any of the problems romantic or sexual relationships do is like saying Macs can't get viruses, only PCs can.

@StardustLegend

3 жыл бұрын

this analogy works oddly well tbh

@ralison23

3 жыл бұрын

The “mostly, kind” tells me this guy has upset his partner, and didn’t like their negative reaction. He doesn’t get he probably has absolutely upset his friends, but because a friendship can be less serious than a relationship, it’s easier to just react nicely and move on, especially if you realize you can distance yourself from him later. Dude’s damn delusional with how much he really thinks he knows the world.

@NadDew

3 жыл бұрын

you know any person who say friendships doesn't have any problems, either didn't have friends or he is a very shitty selfish friend himself who never do or give anything for their friends.

@SwogFrog

3 жыл бұрын

@@ralison23 Can you imagine being in a relationship, becoming close with your partner, and on encountering a vulnerable moment where things don’t go well- Instead of taking time to process and take ownership of one’s own actions and grow, just be like “That woman has no self control, indeed what an illness that she would allow her feelings to ever get the better of her!! This whole ‘love’ thing is indeed an illness! A GOOD person should never acknowledge their feelings and act like everything is perfect until the world is perfect” in this dude’s condescending tones.

@razmiddle9410

3 жыл бұрын

Are you saying that both can get viruses, but PCs are significantly more likely to get viruses because the design of Macs simply doesn't give users the freedom to do things that would likely cause viruses?

I hate the name School of Life. Here in Finland people who despise education say they went to ”School of Life”. As if life hasn’t taught all of use no matter the education level.

@takethewordss

3 жыл бұрын

You see it on dating apps a lot under education. lmao "The School of Hard Knocks", I get it you're a tough boy.

@MethCrystal666

3 жыл бұрын

That's pretty much what it means in the UK, too. Which means it's odd coming from Alain de Boton, BA MPhil.

@j.malo-roper4050

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man you'll hear that in the particularly rural corners of North America too. Unfortunately I think it's generally a result of people not being able to afford education, here, rather than an active choice not to go.

@bluishwolf

3 жыл бұрын

Yet if you don't have a college degree, companies will act like you are incapable of learning anything.

@medes5597

3 жыл бұрын

That's a common English phrase everywhere, that's where the name is from.

i hate it when i agree with something like hell yeah parties suck i dont like going to them i get anxiety and overstimulated not a fan of that, but then they put in some pretenious way, oh no i just dont like parties, i am morally righteous for not liking parties

@skeetsmcgrew3282

Жыл бұрын

I've found the most convincing evidence that I'm wrong is when somebody I agree with says something clearly dickish and outrageous. Like "aw damn is that what I sound like?! Welp, time to reconsider my entire existence" 😅

I wanna build a biography of this dude's life by how transparently he projects to the audience

This sounds like someone who's gone through some really awful relationships, starting with his parents and only continuing through life, and he's putting in a lot of effort to not recognize that he's got a lot of issues

@Theo_Caro

3 жыл бұрын

One of the videos looked at here suggests that we are sometimes unhappy in are relationships because our relationship with our parents was so good when we were young we unrealistic expectations of our partners. This goes against your analysis.

@CommanderKatelyn

3 жыл бұрын

Theo_Caro yeah, i think it’s more likely it’s a guy who had a virtually perfect childhood but struggles with socialising and relationships nowadays and wants, somehow, to still blame his parents for the fact that his social skills aren’t great despite the fact they were fine parents. It’s very easy for people like this to point the finger at others in their life when things go wrong for them, especially for men directed at their mothers.

Bro, he’s literally showing Dadaist art in the “functionalist” slide. School of life doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

@sylvassasalladsbestick1342

3 жыл бұрын

I also found that strange! And I feel like he glossed over the fact that a ton of working class people got better housing because of functionalism. Where I live, functionalism introduced things like running water, central heating and bathrooms at an affordable price, which meant more people got access to it. My city literally has an area called "the child houses" that was built in the 30s to provide poor families with good housing. It's still owned and run by the city, and it's still giving low income families a place to live without having to spend their entire income on rent. Functionalism prioritized daylight and hygiene in a time when kids still got rickets because poor housing conditions (lack of sunlight) caused vitamin D deficiency. Sometimes the beauty of things lies in the intent behind them, rather than in superficial decor.

@Magnet_Chaos

3 жыл бұрын

His thought process was probably "Urinals have a function. So clearly it is must be Functionalism!"

Honestly I remember going through a rough break up and watching these videos to help overcome those feelings. I think the video that drew me in was about life. It was good for me at the time but it was SOOOO off putting how everything was about childhood. I definitely got over that phase in my life

@alexxx4434

10 ай бұрын

Isn't it more off-putting that on a societal level we are supposed to block off and forget our childhoods? Kind of like, "Whay happens in childhood stays in the childhood". But unfortunately it doesn't work like that: unresovled childhood issues tend to inevitably and uncosciously follow us for the rest our lives.

Thanks for making this video. I discovered School of Life when KZread stuck one into my recommended feed; I don't remember what it was called, but it was a fairy tale about not fulfilling your potential. As someone who's struggled with this sort of thing-and being the sort of nerd who's susceptible to anything with a medieval fantasy patina-I watched it, wondering how it was going to play out and see if it had any useful advice to impart. What followed was a fable that essentially taught the moral lesson "You spend all your time watching movies and internet porn and that's why you're a fat ugly failure in life." While there was certainly a kernel of truth in that stance, I felt it was a bit of a simplification as well as placing blame on the individual without taking into account societal pressures and expectations, the pervasive nature of entertainment in our era, neurodiversity and how that clashes with the expectations we're given regarding ourselves and how society works, and so on. It made me angry, and I had to make myself sit with that anger for a while to determine whether it was because I was offended by a hard truth or if there was something else going on. Your description of School of Life videos as "incel shit" is pretty damn accurate. There were red flags in the video I watched, details which immediately alerted me to the possibility that this video may have been written or sponsored by a conservative entity like Prager University or some other reactionary organization. While the fairy tale in the video spoke about the protagonist being lulled into a state of inactivity and weakness by basically watching a crystal ball that could show him anything-living vicariously through the people he watched instead of going out and accomplishing things himself in real life-the fact that it visually kept returning to him watching naked women on the crystal ball (and the climax of the tale revealing the crystal ball was a demon in disguise who had planned to foil the protagonist from accomplishing his destiny all along) sent a particularly anti-porn, anti-sex work puritanical message that my conservative Evangelical upbringing made quite familiar. As I mentioned before, the blame for the protagonist's failure in life was placed squarely on his shoulders without ever identifying other contributing factors such as limitations placed by disability, economics, or even the fact that entertainment and advertising corporations have had a century to master ways of pinging our brains. Ultimately, the self-help aura that drew me in made me a potentially receptive audience to the arguments you see espoused by fascist organizations like the Proud Boys with their anti-masturbation dogma. In the end, the video felt like it was intended to act as soft propaganda meant to onboard viewers into embracing and accepting a reactionary philosophy whose end goal is conversion to fascism. Whether that's the intention of School of Life is unknown to me. I'd like to learn more about the creator of the videos to see if they have any ties to conservative organizations, since the animation and presentation quality suggests there's money behind it. It honestly wouldn't surprise me to learn they were getting funding from groups with a reactionary political agenda.

It’s a all Neofreudian, as someone who took a class with a Neofreudian professor.

@Dorian_sapiens

3 жыл бұрын

Since you've taken at least one more class with a Neofreudian professor than I have, I'm inclined to take your word for it. But that channel's ideas strike me as not even grounded in any academic theory, just homebrewed junk that sounds plausible to someone who hasn't studied any psychology or philosophy.

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

3 жыл бұрын

Oh definitely. Sigmund Freud populated the Seymour Skinner Meme brand of human psychological study.

@shugaku2461

3 жыл бұрын

not even that, it's just trash. i don't think freud or lacan would agree to such an analysis of anything really

@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick

3 жыл бұрын

shugaku Freud wouldn’t project his own incredibly specific experiences onto all of humanity? Have you read Freud?

@ruth078

3 жыл бұрын

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick thank you, I wanted to say the exact same thing

didn't realize how susceptible i was to Soothing British Voice™ until now.

@truther249

3 жыл бұрын

The story of my life

@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy I'm Irish

@beverycarefuljohn586

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. What a fool i was

@caijon123

3 жыл бұрын

oof

Gotta say, even if this is a "bad channel" it really helped me with my last minute panic preppibg for my philosophy marticulation exams and gave me confidence. The history of western philosophy is the only series of theirs I've watched tho so can't say about the other stuff