It's OK to dislike Elsecallers, mainly because they just don't care what you think.

@yomanyo327

4 ай бұрын

**signature look of superiority**

@connorduval3977

4 ай бұрын

Not true~! I care what you think, I'm just not going to change my mind about what I'm doing, unless I decide to change my mind but thats my choice

@aldeayeah

4 ай бұрын

It's OK to eat Elsecallers, 'cause they don't have any feelings.

@rainhunter5546

4 ай бұрын

I care what you think of me. If you dislike me that changes the correct way to interact with you.

@UvaroviteKing

4 ай бұрын

Can confirm. I don’t care what someone who doesn’t like me thinks.

“Is it bad to say I don’t like a Radiant Order?” Me, remembering the sheer sass of the Windrunner video: Oh Storms no friend, please spill the tea! And I say that as someone who likes both Windrunners and Elsecallers

The opening line is hilarious given the insane levels of sass in the Windrunner and Skybreaker videos.

The day I was waiting for!!! At long last, our turn has come!!!

@DarkMatter946

4 ай бұрын

🎉

I took the radiant test and was placed as an Elsecaller. I've gotta say that this might be the most accurate personality quizz of all time... I might have cried a little reading that first oath.

I can't believe just HOW WELL the Elsecallers' description fits with me. My most important value, the thing I focus on with all aspects of my life, is constant improvement. Humans are imperfect, and mistakes WILL be made. But what truly matters is that you do better each time. This, more than anything, is the key to success. And success I sure seek to achive, for I am, as any other Elsecaller, very ambitious -- as well as polite, careful, cautious and, so people say, wise. As such, bear witness fellow radiants: today, I formally take the oath. I will reach my potential.

@Afronautsays

4 ай бұрын

These words are accepted

Gosh, the artwork in all of these videos is just *chefs kiss

Elsecallers have an actual destination, but reaching gives rise to the need to find a new destination.

@DistractedRogue

4 ай бұрын

Thus each destination becomes rest points in a ever growing journey

ELSECALLER GANG

1:12 This picture looks amazing! Definitely inspired by the original cover of the Eye of the World.

Finally, I'm here! Thank you Dan & thank you Brandon & the team!

I find some a sort of peace in the fact that Senne doesn't like my most preferred order. It's nice when a feeling is mutual and clearly defined.

Elsecaller gang FTW, I got them on my test and damn, do they fit like a well tailored glove!

@leira_elmira

4 ай бұрын

I just can't believe how well it fits with me, too! Glad to meet you, fellow Elsecaller!

@theyodanesss

4 ай бұрын

Dare I ask what the glove is made of?

@leira_elmira

4 ай бұрын

@@theyodanesss Shardplate, obviously 🙃

Yay Elsecallers! I will reach my potential. 🥰💪🏼🤓

"Okay fine, I do not like, and do not trust Jasnah Kholin" - Senne, probably

@HSuper_Lee

4 ай бұрын

Not liking or trusting Jasnah Kholin is the logical position. She doesn't like or trust you either.

ALL MY FELLOW ELSECALLERS RISE UP!

My people

@danielmacdougall797

4 ай бұрын

Same! Doesn’t matter how many times I do the quiz, this streaks ahead 🙏

@bruceh9780

4 ай бұрын

I remember doing the radiant quiz, quite confident in getting Stoneward, then, BOOM - 80% Elsecaller. A quick read and ooooh yeh, that's me.

@danielmacdougall797

4 ай бұрын

@@bruceh9780 love that haha! my friend who doesn’t know anything about the cosmere read through the description and was like “yeah that’s you”

I tested as an edgedancer, but this description seems to fit me better. Always striving to improve: in action, caring, performance, learning, teaching...

@joshuaharper372

3 ай бұрын

Though if an "ends justify the means" is a requirement for this order, I might see why I never test into it.

Sometime, when I was thinking about the 5th ideals, I thought about Elsecallers. My current thought about their fifth oath is, "I will never reach my potential".

@Amie13Hussain

2 ай бұрын

I could see that

I always thought out of all the orders I’d be an Elsecaller🎉

Another Elsecaller here!!!

Brandon, I hope you're pitching a Stormlight MMO. The world, the lore, and the class distinction would make for an amazing game.

@radagastwiz

4 ай бұрын

There's a TTRPG in the works (should be out by the end of the year), so hopefully that's the next step.

@PhilRezanow

4 ай бұрын

​@radagastwiz I really hope the game mechanics are ok. I'm all for the lore, so if the mechanics are bad, I'll port the lore to my game of choice. But, I'd rather not have to do that. I really want it so I can better understand the lesser talked about things on Roshar. The things the history books ignore. The things that make the world come alive at my table. I'm so excited for this TTRPG!

@jasco666

4 ай бұрын

@@radagastwiz The physical books/pdf will be out or the Kickstarter/Backerkit for it will be out this year?

@itmefalco

4 ай бұрын

​@@jasco666 Both, "Stormlight Role Playing Game will be funded through a Kickstarter campaign scheduled for 2024, with a digital release that same year. A hardcover version of the game will arrive at retail in 2025." - From the polygon article.

Still holding my breath for that Stoneward video...

I'm usually neck and neck Elsecaller/Skybreaker.

@JSephH76

4 ай бұрын

Elsecaller has always been my #1 result, but skybreaker was a close second for me as well... Until I did LSD. No, not a joke. As stereotypical as this is, I got really into philosophy and history after tripping, and now my number 2 is Truthwatcher and skybreaker has fallen to like number 6. Still definitely an elsecaller though.

No love for the Elsecallers. 😮‍💨

@leira_elmira

4 ай бұрын

It's alright, we'll show the world how great our Order is through our actions! Love or not, you can't easily dismiss an Elsecaller 🔥

Seeing this video really solidifies my thinking that getting this order on the quiz was accurate lol

I really like that when spoken, "Elsecallers" has the word "scholars" in it. I wonder if that was intentional

@FirstOfTheMagi

4 ай бұрын

L Scholars

As a fellow Elsecaller, I have to disagree with the confusingly dejected comments from members of my Order. People are often intimidated by competence and achievement. Have you not experienced these feelings directed at you before? Is it any wonder that the words of an outsider to our Order express both admiration and fear? The easiest path in the world is to be guided by one's intuition and emotion. As we know, this is also, often, an incredibly incompetent way to go through life. And yet, many people (again, guided by those same emotions) fear and distrust those who use logic and reason for their decision making, to arrive at the best course of action. Take note of the feelings of others, at their emotional distrust, and factor it into your communications and mannerisms when it is desirable to counteract it. This message could not have been more helpful at seeing ourselves through the eyes of others. It is often necessary to deal with these irrational biases and it is best for us to be aware of them. There are objectively problematic shortcomings of the paths mentioned (tyrant, thief, criminal mastermind) that would hinder one's progress. However, people are often emotionally disturbed when you point out that the reasons not to follow these paths are logical, as if that was not the strongest and surest way to take the moral or ethical path. They do this because they have been conditioned to believe that their feelings, their "gut instinct" should guide them. We can pity this while working to demonstrate, through our achievements, that they are incorrect. Seize your potential comrades, and utilize every insight to aid you in your progress. Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. Edit: Corrected an unintentional emphasis through the use of capitalization.

@yomanyo327

4 ай бұрын

Beauty shames the ugly, strength shames weakness, competence shames incompetence through merely existing, people trying to improve themselves put other peoples faults in sharper focus. The best are often hated by those that know they could be better if they worked on themselves. Nothing new under the sun, really.

@Sarcastic_Sophist

4 ай бұрын

Very interesting exploration of that radiant order. One I find very interesting as someone frequently between lightweaver and elsecaller.

@foodsupply5071

4 ай бұрын

What are those problematic shortcomings of those paths that hinder progress ?

@leira_elmira

4 ай бұрын

I couldn't have said it better; these are some words of wisdom indeed. There is no need to feel intimidated by others' dislike. Actions speak louder than words, and our own self-confidence is what should define us.

@leira_elmira

4 ай бұрын

@@foodsupply5071 People care about emotions. Logic encompasses all, even these. If you become a tyrant, you work against the world. You cut yourself away from the wisdom and ideas of others. If you become a thief or a criminal mastermind, you isolate youself from society and its opportunities. Moral is an important factor in rational decision-making. What is success, if to achieve it you trample on everyone else? That is not success, it is stealing. Instead of creating resources and bringing progress, you destroy the world that created you. Self-improvement isn't selfish, for -- I think -- success is measured by how much joy, hapiness and progress it can bring to yourself as well as others. Emotions aren't HOW you should take a decisions but rather WHY you take it.

My order!

❤

Elsecallers

I would totally be an Elsecaller.

I will reach my potential

Willshapers next week!!!

There needs to be a book made about the history of the radiants and Roshar. Something similar to a world of ice and fire by GRRM

I feel like this didn't tell me anything about the order.

Yeah, havent been able to escape the elsecaller order in the official quiz. Just wanted to have a different powerset. Guess I'll have to settle with pulling a Hoid and gather powers from other worlds.

@FirstOfTheMagi

4 ай бұрын

Transforming matter is pretty tight

Laughs in Elsecaller. Yes, that's exactly how we are.

Elsecaller grindset.

Seems like they're implying there will be more elsecallers soon

Ah yes, Elsecaller, one of the two radiant orders I am caught between. Sad to say, I am still uncertain where I stand between this and lightweaver.

@ottayK

4 ай бұрын

If you are uncertain, you are a lightweaver. lol

@Sarcastic_Sophist

4 ай бұрын

@@ottayK I can live with that, Illusions is one of my favorite powersets anyway.

….as someone who specifically identifies with the elsecaller and Windrunner orders (both subjectively and according to the official test), I question how well the narrator and I would be able to coexist…. Mostly on their side.

is Jasnah the only Elsecaller we know of? Or there is another we read about? I can´t remember

@amicaaranearum

4 ай бұрын

She is the only Elsecaller in the modern era, as the other Inkspren are unwilling to risk a bond.

@FirstOfTheMagi

4 ай бұрын

@@amicaaranearum Which means all we Elsecallers would be unbonded or whatever our second option/selection was

@joshyaash

3 ай бұрын

@@FirstOfTheMagi Well, no, you'd be unbonded because you live on Earth, not Roshar

Test may say Lightweaver, but I'm an Elsecaller. Wish there were more in-book examples.

0:15 didnt you already trash the windrunners, and skybreakers

Isn't Brandon an Elsecaller? Is this just Dan roasting Brandon?

@purefucknmetal

4 ай бұрын

I thought Brandon was a bondsmith?

@MobBossBobRoss

4 ай бұрын

Brandon said he's close to Lightweaver and another (can't remember)

@x265_hevc5

4 ай бұрын

@@MobBossBobRoss Of course a master storyteller would be a Lightweaver!

@avwillis5269

4 ай бұрын

Sounds more like she has a problem with Jasnah.

Elsecallers sound off!! 🙋‍♂️🙌🙌

@yomanyo327

4 ай бұрын

Here!

As an elsecaller, infj, I love this video

The embodiment of Vorinism.

bro why did Dan do Elsecallers dirty like that 💀

Elsecallers and Dustbringers would do really well working together, I think, based on both their powers and their attitudes. But I don't think they are going to get along at all lol

Man, Elsecallers getting ragged on.

They are one of the few orders who believe the ends justify the means. I agree with that philosophy (within reason).

woot

Adoooonalsium

Was that supposed to be Adolin?? Is my crackpot theory correct? Lol

I think I found mine…

I find it absolutely wild that they don't trust Elsecallers, but have zero issues with Willshapers. Yeah, be whoever you want to be, regardless of what anyone else thinks, disregarding laws even, but god forbid you want to improve yourself.

You know, I admire a lot about Elsecallers. The drive to better oneself is commendable, and is important to me personally. However, I don’t like the “ends justifies the means” attitude. Achieving your goals even if it is at the expense of others is not right. Well… I guess that’s what makes me an Edgedancer.

@ReadyPlayerPiano

4 ай бұрын

I believe you misunderstand. A frank assessment of the available means as a method of assessing the path of least harm does not mean the ends justify the means. Sometimes there are no good options, so we must choose the least bad.

@foodsupply5071

4 ай бұрын

@@ReadyPlayerPianobut they can completely disregard life if they see it as progress toward something and that is my main problem with it. Windrunners at least always save people. Edgedancers remember people. Truthwatchers always seek truth. They are bound by their Oath to at least try to do something good Elsecallers could be bad people as long as it is seen as progress toward their own potential. Their Oath does not have this

@leira_elmira

4 ай бұрын

Here is what I answered to another person asking why an Elsecaller would not want to become some of the exemples given in the video: People care about emotions. Logic encompasses all, even these. If you become a tyrant, you work against the world. You cut yourself away from the wisdom and ideas of others. If you become a thief or a criminal mastermind, you isolate youself from society and its opportunities. Moral is an important factor in rational decision-making. What is success, if to achieve it you trample on everyone else? That is not success, it is stealing. Instead of creating resources and bringing progress, you destroy the world that created you. Self-improvement isn't selfish, for -- I think -- success is measured by how much joy, hapiness and progress it can bring to yourself as well as others. Emotions aren't HOW you should take a decisions but rather WHY you take it.

@foodsupply5071

4 ай бұрын

@@leira_elmira That is your definition of success however. Success is a label that is defined by your values. It’s great that you would think it to be irrational but other people might disagree and they probably will. It’s about the progress of the elsecaller and not the world. What is success indeed. The elsecaller can decide that for himself because it’s his own potential.

@annmoore321

4 ай бұрын

@@foodsupply5071you explain it better than I do.

Anyone else just learn something important about themselves?

I keep hearing Elf Caller. Elf Caller you are caller number 19....

Mr Sanderson, will you give us ANY Rithmalist update? It's being so many years since the first book release

I TOLD YA’LL JASNAH WAS SUS! (Spoilers for the Lost Metal and Rhythm of War) . . . . . SHE IS PERFECTLY POISED AND MENTALLY READY TO TAKE UP THE AVATAR OF AUTONOMY

@argentaegis

4 ай бұрын

She's definitely up to something, and expects everyone to know that. Does that count as "sus"? She expects everyone to be "up to something" and is generally disappointed when people aren't (wasted potential). Don't tell the Elsecaller you're bored unless you want a job, or a door in the face...could go either way.

...Is this foreshadowing?

Ah yes, the most overrepresented order of the fandom. I too, dont hate Elsecallers, but I also see them as basically just relativist Truthwatchers. I'm keeping my eye on you, ambitious ones.

Can you please finish george rr martins GOT series?

@yomanyo327

4 ай бұрын

GRRM doesn't want anyone else to finish his series if he dies, but, his family might be persuaded after his death.

@Dominknows

4 ай бұрын

@@yomanyo327 sando could easily finish it

@yomanyo327

4 ай бұрын

@@Dominknows Of course he could, but would he be allowed to? Someone would have to convince the family to go against GRRMs wishes.

I have this theory that has no evidence behind it. Kaladin is going to become the avatar for Honor This revelation came to me while i was taking a dump

@finalplot8773

4 ай бұрын

The one place where all good theories come from

shallan voice comes through so hard in these commentaries

i get why u dont like them...they are the guys who would sent a guy back to braize after 4000years...not exactly considerate i would say.

@ReadyPlayerPiano

4 ай бұрын

1. Assessing an option does not mean committing an act. 2. It has a demonstrated track record of success as a method to buy time. 3. It is unlikely he would become more broken than he is already. 4. He chose the pact.

@richardsrichards2984

4 ай бұрын

yes..but a windrunner would have sacrificed himself to take his place.. thats honor i would say.i like logic and jasnah bt you guys are too close to the skybreakers with their manic ideas abt laws

@ReadyPlayerPiano

4 ай бұрын

@@richardsrichards2984 when the mechanism for taking the place of a herald (which may well involve destroying them) is properly understood, then I'm certain that option too will be considered. Until then, this amounts to typical Windrunner daydreams and bravado.

Please rewrite Rhythms of Bore so I can enjoy the series again? It's a truly awful book.