So happy you guys compared these ..I really feel Saucony and new balance been stepping it up last 18 months

Another one of your famous versus videos! Jokes aside, love your videos guys.

@TheRunTesters

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Cheers Chris

Great video as always! Iam looking forward to Novablast 3 in channel. I have tried them and they are much more nimble and light than their predecessors. For me they are a good competitor to Endorphin Speed 3

@runlifedak

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I am constantly raving about the Nova 3 to my friend who's also a runner. There isn't a daily trainer like it on the market, imo. I just ordered the Speed 3 because I have to see how it rides, but having tried plated shoes in the past, I'm not sure I need the Speed 3. The Nova 3 is fantastic. I will throw in the fact that I am very slow (former sprinter and college football player), so my perspective certainly won't be that of the vast majority of runners. I'm buying two more pair of Nova 3's, without question.

Fully agreed! at 1st look, the SuperComp Trainer seems good for long run but eventually I found it 's tired to run on its for over an hour. Not sure it is because of its weight or the design of this shoes.

I like the speed 3 after over 100km of use but i do not like the upper or the heel counter. The platform is indeed wider but the upper just doesn't work well with my feet for some reason. Would like to try the wide version. That being said outside of that it is a great ride.

NB Trainer is a difficult shoe to accommodate in a rotation. You don't need a carbon plated shoe for daily short easy or recovery runs plus it is pretty expensive for that purpose and for long runs it is heavy and it adds up over miles. It is also a heavy shoe for speed work. So, it is a very limited use case shoe. On the other hand, Endorphin Speed is a great daily trainer, decent shoe for long runs, can be used for HM or Marathon racing and can also be used for speed interval work though I would rather pick up something else (PUMA Liberate, Adidas Takumi Sen 8, etc.) for that purpose.

Interesting thoughts now that we've seen a preview of the SC Trainer v2, which seems like a more versatile shoe.

Hi Tom and Nick! So what are the ultimate long run shoes if the SC Trainer is too stressful and the Speed 3's are a bit too geared for speedwork? Thanks again for these videos, they're so fun to watch :)

@runlifedak

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Novablast 3 is one I find worth consideration. I haven't enjoyed a daily trainer this much, ever.

Does the SuperComp offer anything that the Prime X doesn’t? Likewise I have the Pro 3 so does the Speed 2 offer anything else other than a little more durability?

Great review. Two questions: 1. Sizing? I had to go a full size up in the Pro 1 and 2. Would you say the length about the same for the Speed 3? 2. Clydesdale factor: Which is better for your larger followers?

@Strizzle81

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Same for me ..I wear a size 13 novablast 2 and new balance more v3. I tried the speed 3 size 13 and it was too short. Tried a size 14 because they don't make 13.5 and it was too big.

Great review, I think that the new Shift 3 will be better then the NB SC trainer.

@mrsatter5575

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If the shift 3 is gonna ride like a nicely broken in ride 15 it’s gonna be a winner. Pretty sure it’s gonna be the same midsole n insole.

The problem I find with the SC Trainer or these super high stack stiff shoes like the Prime X is that they really force a heavy "hip strategy" and my quads end up getting quite tired out because it does shift all the work up the legs. Definitely have that problem with the Metaspeed Sky+ and Alphafly 2 to some extent (moreso than 1) too though. They don't allow for much toeoff or "ankle strategy" and I seem to do well with some more of that in the mix. Shoes like the Speed 3 or Vaporfly or many other supershoes seem to have a better balance between the two that works better for my stride.

How do you compete it with novablast3 or nimbus 25 ?????

Thoughts on this Saucony rotation: Triumph 20 for Easy days, Speed 3 for Tempo/Threshold/Intervals, and Pro 3 for Race?

@HI-pi1er

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Clifton 8 for easy days ! 👌

@kalvin.

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If sticking with one brand, yes! Other options for each would be Easy: NB More V4, Invincible Tempo: Mach 5, Novablast 3 Race: VF, Metaspeeds

@dbo4506

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@@HI-pi1er I was a staunch Clifton 7 user. Got the 8 and threw them in the bin. Nowhere near as good as the 7. I replaced them with the triumph 20 and they’re in a different planet to the Clifton’s.

They’re not in the same category. Would make more sense to do speed 3 vs fuelcell rebel v3. And supercom vs triumph 20.

Which one would last longer?

I wanted to like the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 in wide but the toe box was uncomfortably tight on my toes, it’s gathering dust. I have the SC trainer in wide as well and they are great, they feel great for my HR zone 2 running for distances between 5-13 miles. Why does every reviewer complain about stability? It’s super stable. Do more weight training to build strength instead of just running.

Would you recommend using the speed 3 on compacted trails and canal paths? Grateful for your thoughts.

@TheRunTesters

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It’s been fine for me (Nick) on those kind of terrains across all three generations of the Speed. Not the best grip if those surfaces get slick though

@davidstreet2863

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRunTesters Thanks Nick, much appreciated. Just didn’t want to run on that type of surface if the outsole wasn’t up to it.

@phagami61219

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I've heard the Speed 3's traction is better than the previous versions, is that true?

@phagami61219

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@@TheRunTesters I've heard the traction is better on Speed 3 than it's previous versions, is that true?

@skobodabaws8946

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it's doing amazing job on the trail, I'm enjoying it ,I feel d propulsion as I go up hill,fun to use on the trail!

Hi Nick, 22 miles @ “pretty relaxed pace” was 6.20 min/miles ? it is below 4 min/km that's "pretty fast", can´t do 5k in this pace, imagine 22 miles... not very relaxing....🙂

SC Trainer almost seems a one trick pony where the Speed 3 just have so much to offer at most paces and then the price difference! Speed 3 for most of my training (love the Streakfly for 200m & 400m reps) and the then Vaporfly/Alphafly or Pro 3 for racing (just got Pro 3 today and will be doing 10k and half marathon races in the next month)

I have the New Balance SuperComp Trainer v1 and absolutely love how much bounce it has on landing and it is so kind on my legs on my hour long slow runs. I tried the Speed 3 in a shop and it felt loose on my feet and didn't seem to have much bounce. @TheRunTesters is there anything in the current line up that is as comfortable and has as much bounce especially for slow runs?

Wait. In some ways, they are in the same category, a testament to the speed3's ,versatility. The Spee3 is regarded as a great all-rounder shoe for longer runs, speed work, daily runs and even racing. So it might work as a longer training shoe and daily teainer cshoe much like the purpose of the SC trainer. Someone looking for a do it all shoe like the speed 3 could be interested in how it compares to other long run shoes. And the prices are close.

I bought the super comps without an pervious research, and it’s the worst shoe I’ve ever bought. Super hard to run in them for anything longer than 3 miles. Worst part I threw away the box and can return them 😢. Do not buy the super comps.

@iDanceMyButtOff

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what size? ill buy if size 10 and in good condition

Still calculating how you exchange $ to £ 🤔

Why? Apples and oranges. This comparison makes zero sense.

You guys are so sensitive. The trainer has such an incredible blend of cushion and stability. Never felt anything like it. Yes, it's not a speed shoe, but the energy turn and preserving your legs is unrivaled.