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Sam should be running Lucas films

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

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@matthiasravencroft

4 ай бұрын

Sam and Dave Filoni, they both get it

@transgirltalks1140

4 ай бұрын

It's not Lucas films. It's Disney and they do not care

@rawleigh729

4 ай бұрын

@@transgirltalks1140 it’s Lucas films and Disney Kathleen is the president of Lucas films if Sam was the president I guarantee the movies and shows would be 1000 percent better

@unknowns765

3 ай бұрын

How is there a clone trooper on your username?

He was so respectfully dissing the plot of the last films and I loved it

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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@macmaasi79

2 ай бұрын

he couldn't be harsher because he's still an employee for them...

Watched the original trilogy hundreds of time . Prequels hundreds of times . Sequels once

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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@lucero3945

2 ай бұрын

Same.

@pedrolerma5952

2 ай бұрын

Still haven't seem the last one

@JannisMT

2 ай бұрын

I stopped after Force Awakens already. Was already to stupid for me, it hurt watching

@greyjedi6430

2 ай бұрын

@@JannisMT feel ur pain 😭😭😭

A sound argument indeed. Luke's justification for him trying to kill Kylo because he sensed darkness in him was laughable compared to Luke saving Darth Vader and the atrocities Vader committed.

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

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@darth_ow8024

4 ай бұрын

And the stakes where infinitely higher in Return of the Jedi.

@joeclaridy

4 ай бұрын

@@darth_ow8024 just ask the good people of Alderan

@Kriggs187

4 ай бұрын

It's because Rian Johnson wasn't a Star Wars fan and neither was Jar Jar Abrams. They didn't have any respect for the property they were trusted with.

@mrmacwayne6046

3 ай бұрын

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Hated seeing Luke as a quitter.

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

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@saz4310

3 ай бұрын

True and when I watched it I basically summed it up to, he just got old. He focused so much on being the Jedi he thought he should be that he forgot what got him there. Faced another (possible) darth vader and panicked.

@jathan254

3 ай бұрын

​@@saz4310he's not that old... Unless Human Jedi Masters just get old at 50... I mean I guess Obi wan did so maybe?

@magicbrownie1357

3 ай бұрын

He fought right up to the end.

@jathan254

3 ай бұрын

@@magicbrownie1357 ....no he didnt... Ray "brought him out of retirement" to screw with Kylo Ren from across the galaxy but Luke had given up. He didnt care what happened, he didnt want to know about the news of the galaxy...

I’m sorry but I did not need to see my childhood hero just give up. These characters were larger than life. They could be what I couldn’t be. We Had 35 years of books comics and video games that continued their stories. We got to see them grow up mature have kids. The kids grew up went tree their own problems. Then Disney buys it. Says that 35 years of history didn’t happen. So what were they actually doing in that time? Apparently nothing. Han got divorced and went back to doing the dumb stuff he did as a younger man. Leia just stayed a general in a never ending war. And Luke just gave up to go sit on a rock. Then they all died. Because that’s so much better than what we’ve had before. Disney Star Wars is the most soulless cash grab. There’s no romance anymore. Everyone’s platonic, no one flirts with each other. They’re not allowed to have Han Solos or Dash Rendars anymore. Everyone has to be nice to droids now. Lightsabers don’t even cut limbs off anymore. It’s just not even fun anymore. It honestly baffles me that people still eat this stuff up. Like all it takes is a character cameo to get people excited.

@dbPopRocks

2 ай бұрын

Damn this is so spot on to how I feel about star wars now 😢

Since this interview they really muzzled him it's such a shame

@stormcutter59

2 ай бұрын

His own damn fault for muzzling himself. These people don't control you. You LET them control you. Weak people let themselves be controlled

Even mark Hamill hated this version of luke

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

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@jakubgodyn7413

4 ай бұрын

Not true. He was not a fan at first but when he wwbt deeper into it he understood it

@fedemonzon9494

3 ай бұрын

​lol this is not true, he hates that version of his character and he's very vocal about it 😂

@ichiban308

3 ай бұрын

That's Jake Skywalker 😅😅

@darklorddysart

3 ай бұрын

George loves it

I think if Disney let Sam direct a Star wars history, it's going to be amazing.

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

Yes!

@rumblefish9

Ай бұрын

Just because he has a valid opinion doesn't mean he can do it.

The professional way of saying TLJ is a truck of 💩

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

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While not a fix to Luke's arc, i always felt that there should have been a vision Luke sees, what made him pick up his saber to strike down Kylo Ren. A vision where he sees Ben kill Han Solo, perhaps. Then we can understand the guilt Luke carries with him, knowing that ultkmately he caused this. That when he goes to 'visit' Leia later, there's also an element of asking for forgiveness. But overall, there's just so much that didn't work.

Him trying to kill his nephew cause of bad dreams was the dumbest thing they ever did to Luke,

@starwarssith66

2 ай бұрын

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@JnEricsonx

2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile, back in 2017, Im in shock when a couple times at NYCC Mark pops up and does a bunch of free selfies, I near had a stroke. A couple months later, I see the movie and I'm like... "Ohhhh...."

Am I right that sam was the face for starkiller in the force unleashed games

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

💯 yes!

@Darth_Sheepus_the_wise

4 ай бұрын

And the voice for Maul in clone wars and rebels

@shoopmahboop1374

2 ай бұрын

And also Palpatine and The Son​@@Darth_Sheepus_the_wise

Someone fire Kathleen Kennedy and make this guy the head of Disney Star Wars right now. This is exactly how most fans felt when they saw TLJ. That crap never should have happened

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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@wasserperson

3 ай бұрын

🤦🏻‍♂️. Witwer is a performer with as far as I can't tell absolutely zero experience on the production side - contracts, financing, compliance, advertising, ... Be as salty or betrayed or despondent or whatever about the plot choices you don't like, hey ok. Confuse that for know-how on the rest of the industry? 🤦🏻‍♂️

@johncampbell9107

3 ай бұрын

@@wasserperson I think a five year old can manage star wars better than KK. Experience or not I believe Sam would do a better job. He actually understands SW and has a passion for the story. He also has very good friends like Jon F and Dave F to help him out. I stand with my original comment.

@wasserperson

3 ай бұрын

​@@johncampbell9107 🤔🧐🤦🏻‍♂️. You hate the recent Star wars product, ok, fine, you've clearly got plenty of company. But you can't hate or love or even see product that never gets made at all. Kennedy gets movies, shows, etc made. Filoni and Favreau? Same thing. They get stuff made. Witwicker? He's a performer. He's only about 3 years younger than Filoni. Go look up their IMDb pages. Has Whistler even tried any behind the camera work?

@ajfite1277

3 ай бұрын

@@wasserpersonhave you heard of this thing called learning? Some people do this to acquire skills some would say are… unnatural

I love how he resoects both sides and not spreading hate. He is truly a jedi and will bring peace and balance to this fandom.

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

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@therobustempyrean1436

3 ай бұрын

Nah, even better, he's a Grey Jedi. Not truly for one side or the other, just someone who sees valid uses for both sides.

@criticalcommenter

3 ай бұрын

Because he is paid to praise this crap

@justinamenta7241

3 ай бұрын

He's doesn't respect that pile of shit movie lol he's being diplomatic because he's an employee.

I would really like to see him write and star in a star wars movie either past or future time frame.

Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, and Sam Witwer working on a RE-Sequel would be unbeatable.

Seconds before he throws down his lightsaber he’s about to kill his dad cause of a petty taunt about his sister who he’s only really known was his sister for maybe a day or two. The difference between Luke nearly killing his dad and nearly killing his nephew is that even though he stopped himself the damage had already been done.

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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@tiffanyroberts6460

3 ай бұрын

@@caleb281 the last Jedi definitely has problems in the writing, the execution and the fact it’s an incredibly boring movie but a lot of the things people say about Luke comes more from them reading the EU where Luke is essentially space Jesus. This video is fans not actually examining the canon and recognising Luke was always flawed, he truly was a Jedi like his father before him both for better and for worse.

@xrphoenix7194

3 ай бұрын

He's fighting the most powerful duelist in the galaxy, one of the most horrific and feared men in the galaxy who is taunting him about killing him and forcing his sister to join him. No shit he loses his temper, but when he had the opportunity to kill him he doesn't. Yet he gets what amounts to a bad vibe from his nephews dream and IGNITES HIS FUCKING LIGHTSABER TO KILL HIM. These two things are NOT the same. Quit trying to excuse bad writing.

@tiffanyroberts6460

3 ай бұрын

@@xrphoenix7194 no, it’s nothing to do with who Vader is that he loses control he loses control cause of the idea that his friends are threatened just as he ran away from finishing his training in Empire, same reason he took up his lightsaber against Ben. It’s also not a vibe, he essentially got the same premonition that he got in empire when he saw Han and Leia being tortured but now it was showing they’d die cause of Ben. Stop trying to act like Luke is perfect, his heart has always been his greatest strength and weakness just like Anakin.

@tiffanyroberts6460

3 ай бұрын

@@xrphoenix7194 only bad writing is this argument.

My problem with that character path for Like is him making the decision to kill his nephew. It just not Luke... And they, the writers, just expect us to accept this fundamental change in a beloved character off screen. What they should have done is included a back story in Force Awakens that shows Bens decent into the dark side, and Like driven by his past to prevent it... And insteading of trying to kill Ben in his sleep we see Luke get a vision of Ben bleeding his number crystal and his saber starting to flicker red... Luke sneaks into Bens quarters at night in an attempt to inspect the blade and crystal... And sensing that the crystal has been "tortured" by Ben, pulls out his saber on instinct. This is when Ben wakes up, sees Like standing over him, saber hilt in hand... And reacts with violence. A brief though destructive fight ensues, and when Luke seems to have won, Ben laying in the ground, beaten and disarmed... He recalls his saber with the force and finally, with all his rage and hatred, ignited a red blade. Luke, shocked by the sunned surge of power and fear, is easily beaten and seemingly buried under the building the not Kylo brings down on him. This is when the rest of the Knights of Ren show up, and under Kylos guidence, slaughter the rest of the students. Luke survived. But in true Jedi fashion, exiles himself out of guilt for failing. Had that been the end of TFA, that lead into part 2, it would have made for a much better Luke story.

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

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@joeclaridy

4 ай бұрын

That's still a stretch but slighty more believable than what we got in the Last Jedi.

@idbadgeman5943

2 ай бұрын

Luke never was going to kill Kyle, if you watched the movie, you could hear Luke say that he changed his mind, but then Kyle happened to wake up

@johncrowley3322

2 ай бұрын

​@@idbadgeman5943Luke would never even contemplate ending a youngling let alone his nephew. He would pass in meditation fighting the fear within himself. Literally the whole point of his character arc is overcoming fear and the response to fear that causes immoral actions.

@idbadgeman5943

2 ай бұрын

@@johncrowley3322 Dude… if this child is essentially evil itself, he would contemplate killing it. Also, it’s been a long time since he faced evil, and if something could destroy what he spent building for years in only a second. I would think he might be a bit conflicted.

Sam's exactly right! This is exactly what I'm saying bro!

Thats a very diplomatic way of saying that New star wars are a pile of shyt

Personally I didn't have a problem with that scene; I saw it more of an instinctive response to a sudden and powerful Dark Side presence. People tend to get wrapped up too much in the fact that the scene started that way instead of focusing more on how it ended. What Sam mentions here in this short FOLLOWED Luke's moment of anger and mounting rage. Luke absolutely WAS letting his emotions get the better of him in the fight with Vader and that moment of clarity resulted in the scene Sam mentions. Older Luke had that instinctive response to that Dark Side presence (which keep in mind he did not expect), but then found the clarity to snap out of it. Unfortunately, Ben didn't see it that way and gave rise to the two differing perspectives. It's the least egregious thing to happen in that movie as far as I'm concerned.

@johncrowley3322

2 ай бұрын

Thatd be reasonable if the most important lesson he learned was to conquer his fear. Yoda literally based his training on overcoming fear and trusting the force. The fact he even becomes fearful after defeating palpatine and vader is hilariously bad. Luke would never contemplate ending his nephew hed search out the fear within himself like he was taught. It's just bad writing

Easy fix to that whole situation is that unknown to him, the island they were on was actually strong in the dark side of the force and manipulated itself to appear as if it were strong in the light side. Over the course of the years training shadows began to seep into Luke's mind and one night he had visions of demonic assassins and took it upon himself to defend his students. He killed one or two and went to kill what he thought was the leader but froze as his mind started to clear as he was able to identify his nephew through the haze, but by then Kylo had seen what Luke had done, was frightened for his life and fought back before Luke could say anything and was overpowered as Kylo and the remaining students fleed to safety. The students became the knights of Ren. Kylo, also infested with dark shadows from his time on the island turned to the only other source of the force in his life, his grandfather, or rather what he thought his grandfather truly was. And from there he was manipulated into who he became under Snoke's guidance. Luke became reclusive as he was ashamed of what he had done. Now, either a) he stayed on the island which is where Rey comes and finds him, and together they uncover the source of the dark side in the island and purge it and Luke is able to come back from the trapped state he was in. Or b) Luke went in hiding to another island and when Rey discovers him they travel back to the island and find the source of the dark side and purge it together and Luke is able to understand why he attacked his nephew and why he no longer should be reclusive and needs to step up to save his nephew like how he saved his father.

I was literally just talking about this in a comment I left on a Retney’s Holocron vid lol

@starwarssith66

4 ай бұрын

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If they knew going into the Last Jedi that Palpatine was returning, they could of had Palpatine already trying to get to Ben Solo and if Palpatine was able to hide his presence, he would have tried to get to Luke, which Luke would detect at the wrong time making it look like he was going to murder Ben when he was convinced he was seeing some sort of threat instead and Ben would see his master attacking him, and after Ben left, Luke would have to go and find out what this threat is and being that Palpatine is hiding himself Luke would have to figure out how to uncover this new threat. This isn't perfect but i do think given the right adjustments, the sequel trilogy could technically turn out the same way with the biggest adjustment being Luke actually showing up when they reach Leia in TFA and the ripple effect of doing that could mean alot for how his part of the story would of had to play out.

AMEN!

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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Sam should run Disney.

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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Man I wish they had done a film introducing Galen Marek AKA starkiller into the Star wars series in my opinion there needed to be at least two movies before Rogue Squadron and the script for the Force unleashed could have been those two movies. That would have given us two full movies with Anakin as Darth Vader and you know that's what we wanted a full movie as the main character being Darth Vader a full Darth Vader

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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What interview is this from????

Now imagine a Trawn-trilogy (i personally would love to see the original trilogy by Zahn) with Sam`s expertise and knowledge about the star wars universe.....i would LOVE that!

@JnEricsonx

2 ай бұрын

::holds up Heir to the Empire signed by Zahn:::

@christophert91

2 ай бұрын

@@JnEricsonx Oh wish i had the chance to get one too, im very happy for you tho :)

Love this explanation

This man understands Star Wars more than any Disney executive or director ever could.

It just seems like a lot of the issues people have with Lukes character is just not recognizing that he’s not supposed to be this legend, he’s not supposed to be perfectly right at all time, he’s human. Regardless of if you actually like what they did or not, regardless of if you think it was well executed or not. it is a perfectly reasonable route to take him considering the other options people proposed have already been done with him or with other characters. It would be lame if he was just another yoda. It is hypocritical given that the main thing we dislike the force awakens for is that it’s just a new hope again. I think a lapse in judgment with Kylo is perfectly reasonable for an aging man, I think his unwillingness to come back is perfectly reasonable given that he is this godlike legend that can single handedly save the resistance, just like he wasn’t the godlike legend that single handedly killed the empire. There’s no way to keep him the same old guy without completely dehumanizing him. Granted I don’t even like the execution that much. I think we should have seen his decent, we should have seen what happened. It’s like just having the clones in attack of the clones without ever having a clone wars to make them real people. I just think it’s a little pathetic to disregard the concept of him being more flawed as a concept considering Rey’s lack of flaws is what made her so hated, yet some of you guys are applying a double standard here. Which is it, do you want flawed characters or not. Especially when we wouldn’t have had the clone wars and bad batch, some of the best Star Wars has to offer if we disregarded the prequels after they came out for being shit.

Well… he didn’t make Darth Vader, he made Kylo Ren, it was portrayed poorly in the movies, but I see what this message is, i personally didn’t need to see his character like this, but I still know what the message is, he didn’t have children, I don’t think, but he still took his padawans in with love and care, and when he almost struck him down, he didn’t want to have to go and deal with it, what if he pushed them down a deeper hole?

Loving the Atari tee there 👌🏻

@starwarssith66

2 ай бұрын

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Though I didn't expect it, I thought Luke wanting to end the Jedi order was logical. The ONLY way Anikin or Luke could've brought TRUE balance to the force was to end both the Sith and the Jedi. It's an extension of Anikin's purpose under the prophecy. It's more realistic than the good guys winning every time, which gets old REALLY fast.

@thehobbyist7275

3 ай бұрын

While not actually canon(even though the material is great enough to be imo), Star Wars Legends does address this to some capacity. Luke temporarily takes on the powers of the Dark Side when Palpatine returns due to cloning, but his Jedi Order as Grandmaster allows for Jedi to have attachments to others. Even Luke gets married and has children. He allows Jedi to embrace all their emotions but holds them not to let them consume them, which just makes sense in general. That's why, in the past, Jedi, who turned to the Dark side, were generally stronger than those who were raised to be Sith without any other training: someone who explodes with a different set of emotions is gonna react stronger than someone raised in it. That's why Maul and Assaji Ventress wouldn't ever get stronger than Dooku or Vader(in addition to who trained them, of course) . Hell, even if you talk Old Republic, excluding the founder of the Brotherhood of Darkness Darth Bane- which is the Sith Order today, you had Darth Revan who literally was the strongest force user at one time who truly mastered both the light and dark sides of the force. He was essentially Master Yoda and Sidious in one body in terms of power and expertise in the force

You have to explain the gap that created the first order without killing Luke. Age and experience can change you. Think of all the boomer hippies who fought to change the world and where they are now.

Sam would enjoy the Tales of the Jedi comics, KOTOR comics and books, and Legacy comics and books. Luke defeats Abeloth.

He's the one who should be lead on the star wars projects

Just give Sam full creative control already. He is the only one who understands what we need

That wasn't Luke, that was some twisted bizarro version of Luke.

Mark Hamill disagreed with what they did to his character.

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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The degree to which Disney failed Star Wars is unfathomable to me. It's a shame Dave Filoni, the man who restored mysticism to the Force, only gained heavy influence after Disney drove Star Wars into the floor.

Yeah, my favourite thing about people is that their personalities and behaviours solidify in their 20s and then literally never change no matter how much time has passed lol

@johncrowley3322

2 ай бұрын

And ppl develop telekinesis from training with a 800yo goblin. I'm sure you'll be just as sarcastic in 30years. Lighten up

Why is it such a strange idea that characters should change? That Luke, after a hiatus of several decades, should lose the ideals that he once embodied?? And of course everybody somehow misses the fact that he regains those ideals by the end of TLJ! That's not ruining his character, that's called a character arc! It's what makes characters relatable.

The Last Jedi didn't happen in my head, never watched the third film in the latest trilogy, I'll keep my childhood heroes in my head as they are

Man. I did not expect Doomsday to have this empathetic and compassionate take on Luke Skywalker. ..... but yeah he's absolutely right.

Preach!!

It would have been legitimate if we had seen Luke's dark night of the soul while still being himself. I agree with his destitution of spirit over losing Ben Solo. I agree with his being inclined to pull away from training Jedi. But I don't see it believable that he'd spend the REST of his life in self exile.

I saw it as a life filled with HORRIFIC PTSD, and not wanting to be in that position again. I see it as very human. Because the Jedi were about becoming inhuman in their emotions.

Sequel Trilogy was a ship without a captain. No direction, no leadership. Rian Johnson was the one with the dagger who killed the golden goose, but Kathleen Kennedy let him do it.

I agree with Sam. I don't necessarily need to see a broken Luke Skywalker, but I absolutely have no problem with a story about a Broken Luke Skywalker. If the sequel Trilogy was about the Breaking of, Lowest point of and finally the redemption of Luke Skywalker I wouldn't have a problem with that, but whoever makes that story needs to have a plan and have a team focused on bringing that plan out to the best of their writing ability. Reason being not only that it's star wars, but because if you're gonna break Luke Skywalker, you're gonna have people saying what Sam is saying who see Luke as the compassionate hero who saved Darth Vader, so to get them to accept his breaking and lowest point the story needs to be as close to being perfectly written (For Star Wars) as it can possibly be.

Luke never fell to the dark side as someone who had a drug addict father I always looked up to Luke as a father figure he went through the hardest trials and still didn’t fall perfect righting.Kathleen is a monster for making him look weak I didn’t need to see Luke like that I needed to se him do what gorge intended

Give this Guy lucasfilm

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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While I didnt like the sequels. I think it is unfair to be like "he saved Vader, how could he give up on Kylo". As if there isnt years and years of struggling to reform the Jedi, basically alone between those 2 points. He was old and tired and saw a repeating cycle of powerful force users and potential jedi slipping towards the dark side despite his efforts and was terrified he was creating the next Vader rather than preventing one.

And Mark feels the same way.. Its not his Luke.. his luke isnt a coward..

Watched the originals at the cinema, bought the tapes etc, watched the prequels again in the 90's at the cinema, and took my son to watch TFA and then we stopped at TLJ...killed my son's interest and mine...

I do like TLJ but Sam does have a very good point

But I found Luke to be an almost never seen action example of peaceful resistance guiding two warriors simultaneously without spilling a drop of blood

This is who you should have spoken too DISNEY!! PEOPLE LIKE WITWER, a real fan. Go somewhere knew star wars doesnt do REPEATS well at all. Lucas never repeated ANYTHING. Told part of the story then moved on to something knew to tell the rest, if he couldnt bring something knew? Then what was the point.

I hated the movie but the idea is not bad in my opinion. The level of responsibility Luke has towards Kylo as his master is a completely different thing from the relationship he has to Darth Vader. So yeah him having a moment of weakness makes sense. He had that with Vader aswell. And he's a human being aswell so having a hard time coming back from that is totally relatable. Done in a good movie with a great redemption could have worked much better.

@ReyemNeirda

2 ай бұрын

I might agree but he already had and conquer his arc. So doing it again but kinda failing and going depressed was not interesting and takes off a lot to his previous accomplishments

@gamespsych1177

2 ай бұрын

The problem with Luke in the new Trilogy was this: Rey was being trained at a comically absurd rate. I don't care if she is palpatine's grand daughter or if she was bastilla shan herself... No one masters the way of the force without the struggles. Not Vader, Not Palpatine, Not Luke, and most CERTAINLY not Rey who literally lived most of her life unaware of the force powers within her while on Jakku. At some point, it just stops being star wars and is clearly just a superficial cash grab at the expense of the old franchise. The writers were asleep at the wheel or they had some big shot insert their 'SJW' agendas into it forcefully. Or maybe because everything "Disney" ever touched turns into absolute dog shit. Or perhaps all of the above. Major companies like Marvel and Disney have outlived their prime and forgotten what made them what they are today.

Well said

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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Ever since I saw Cinema Therapy's video on Luke Skywalker I've actually learned to tolerate TLJ Luke

I think after heard Adam Driver talk about what they had planned for Kylo Ren, that it makes a lot of sense why they made Luke that way. Vader was Savable, especially by Luke. But when your vision to Kylo Ren is for him to go from a insecure kid, to being the most committed to the dark side a character has ever been, then obviously Luke wouldn’t be able to save him you know. Now obviously that changed and that didn’t happen so that’s why it’s ass, but I never liked the “perfect” characters it’s why I hate Superman, I am one of the people that needed to see Luke have a flaw, make a mistake, it doesn’t make him a bad character it just shows us he’s a person and that he’s not some perfect being.

THE LAST SKYWALKER,ONLY PART I LIKED WAS KYLO WREN.

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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Luke tried to Kill Vader in Return, the way Star Wars fans try to rewrite these movies is embarassing.

Vader killed many people. He was responsible for the death of millions. Luke says there's still good in him and refuses to kill him. Luke has one bad dream about ben solo being kylo, and goes to murder him in his sleep. Disney luke is not my luke.

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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@darklorddysart

3 ай бұрын

Except it wasn’t just a bad dream

@JoeyMulvaney

3 ай бұрын

@@darklorddysart at that point, it was. It came true due to him trying to prevent it. That was the same exact issue Anakin had.. When the force visions came, the more he tried to prevent them, the faster they started to come true. But yes, at that point, a dream was all it was.

It’s not my Luke skywalker. But that’s okay. I’m sure my kids kids will love them. Just like my son fucking loves the prequels. To him that is the true Star Wars.

I don’t get the hate. Luke had nothing at risk if Vader never turned, the Death Star would’ve been destroyed anyways. Luke in this moment, was about to lose the entire Jedi order that he tried to rebuild. Of course he would be in such a panicked state to try to do whatever it takes to stop this from happening. He even changed his mind last second, but Kylo ended up waking up.

i'm sorry but that just isn't luke skywalker, that was character murder

If you want to see a character like that don’t ruin a pre established character. Make a new one. That’s the issue. The issue is they altered the most empathetic, sympathetic and respectful character in the universe and turned him into an embittered childish old man on an island who through everything away because he got a little scared. Make a new character for that hell, if you made that reys actual story arc how she got scared gave into darkness to defeat her enemies and she had to redeem herself to return to good that’s an amazing character arc, but doing that with Luke is beyond crap.

@starwarssith66

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People who needed to see Luke quit were not fans of star wars.

People not seeing how they wrote Lukes parts because of his race and gender not fitting the role Disney wanted is crazy.

the OT characters shouldnt have been a part of the sequel trilogy at all. JJ walked directly into the same trap he smartly avoided in the star trek reboots

It was a way more interesting Luke in TLJ - I never cared for the boring zen Luke from ROTJ… he didn’t feel like the same character at all. I prefer my Luke to be an actual human - a guy who makes mistakes, a guy who lets his emotions take over sometimes which we saw him do countless times in the OT. Luke is a flawed character and always has been… if he saw a vision of Ben destroying every single thing he had worked so hard to build your damn right he would wanna prevent that! And before people say, ‘he would never try kill his nephew’ he never once tried to kill his nephew. All he did was turn his lightsaber on… he didn’t raise it, he just turned it on after seeing all the horrors that he saw. Like a knee jerk reaction - as any rational human would have. Literally within half a second he realised what he had done and how awful it was and regretted it instantly. Unfortunately he was too late and in doing so created the exact thing that he wanted to prevent - and that is fucking good writing!

if the jedi order had acted like luke did and threw down their weapons instead of joining in a war they wouldve survived

Similar to what mark hamill himself said

Coincidentally, you, Mark Hamill himself, the rest of the fandom and anyone with at least two functioning brain cells all share the same opinion. Crazy, right?

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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Saving the father you barely knew, a full grown man with more life experiences than most, who caused the death of your mother -- his wife -- trying to save her by learning the darkside ONLY for the power to save her (morally light-gray at worst), whose been trying to bring you into the family business to overthrow the emperor and bring stability to the empire... ...or your nephew that you trained personally as a jedi, son of your sister and best friend, that woke up to you about to cut him down in his sleep with a lightsaber because you feared what he might become. And barely more than a boy when you did so Yeahno, I think it was far easier to bring a former JEDI-TEMPLE-OBI-WAN-TRAINED force user back to the light than it would be to bring the man-boy you nearly killed because of a premonition back.

Agreed. They destroyed the character. Kylie Ren looked up to Darth Vader. So how could he suddenly lose all that progress?

Last jedi luke is an almost perfect character with 1 major flaw that completely breaks the character. It's the fact that he's luke. Everything about him would make sense if he was someone else, cause those things are out of character for luke.

@ARC117Studios

4 ай бұрын

No. Nearly murdering your nephew, a kid, over fear--only to then abandon not only your nephew, but ALL of your friends and family to go and hide? No. There's nothing perfect about that. I could understand if he truly lost it all, but he had friends and actual family that were COUNTING on him. He turned his back on them all, and hid away for years as a coward. Then, instead of coming HIMSELF to face his mistakes and be the person everyone (including himself) needed him to be, he makes a fucking force "projection" and dies? No. Just fucking no. Giving him some flaws to overcome would have been one thing, that's what they did with Han, which made perfect sense; but not Luke. Having any character do something like that is just ridiculous. You can't say it makes for the perfect character if it wasn't Luke because no other character has the context that Luke does. Your argument is redundant and completely collapses on itself.

No one should have seen LS like that. The greatest shame that has EVER been done to a character

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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Luke was willing to DIE to save his father. Refused to kill him, knowing it would be easy. Laid down his weapon and chose peace and love and sacrifice, to save the greatest villain of all time. Then tries to kill his nephew in his sleeo because hes having bad thoughts. Thats shit writing. They didnt know the character. Just hearing Sam talk about working on shows for star wars shows me how far gone most people are from source material.

Jake Skywalker is not perfectly legitimate. Mark Hamill had to pretend he was playing a different character. That is a failure of the director first and foremost

Disney killed the skywalker bloodline

I would argue that failing two apprentices would change you and with one being , tops, a decade removed , and not only that, your family, i feel you would lose a lot of the hope and compassion that you had. Especially since in ep. 6 he was like barely early mid 20's. While i dont agree with everything ep.8 did i still do like that we see a , potentially, realistic adaptation of luke and even hammil said he didnt agree with what they did at first, but, after hed seen the film he said i understand now. Plus i really wish they'd gone for the round of the grey jedi, but that was just my hopeful wishes

Assassinated Luke’s character #notcanon

@starwarssith66

3 ай бұрын

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Any clip with Sam shows what star wars could have been without the greed of George Lucas

@starwarssith66

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I need to see prime Legends Luke Skywalker. Waited 40 years to see him be the man only to have KK and Disney decide that luke is to white and male to be a role model. Give me a break .

@starwarssith66

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Who tf needed to see that version of Luke? 💀

Let go of all your fear to lose.

Sam Witwer was that skinny nerd in highschool who aged well only to became the perfect Blend of a Chad and a Star Wars fan😂

@JnEricsonx

2 ай бұрын

See also Henry Cavill.

luke was trying to kill vader and almost did, then came to his senses. He did the same thing but didnt act on it with ren. People miss the point of his character and that is, being his naivety ràshness at times. Evrryone seemed on board with what force awakens presented, it was clear to me. Last jedi just didnt exentuate it enough.

Sam Witwer is like the Chad Ubermensch of the army of angry Star Wars fans. 😂 The people’s champion.

It's almost like the people who wrote the story didn't even like Star Wars.

Luke wasn't a quitter! He was dealing with one of his fatal flaws, his major weakness. HE'S SCARED. In RotJ, he flips out before throwing his weapon down. In TLJ, he ignites his blade for a second and then regrets it immediately. There's growth there! Luke is human. Humans do stupid things. People expect him to be perfect, but he's not.

@60wattmoon

3 ай бұрын

That part. Or did they think Luke was swinging his lightsaber at Vader in a friendly way? lmao The revisionism is so funny

That’s the point though isn’t it. The same way Vader is not Anakin, tlj Luke is not rotj Luke, and that’s what people don’t understand. Is it out of character? Absolutely! That’s the whole point, he’s grown and changed and gotten to become a far worse person the same way Anakin did as a kid.

Legends Luke is the 5hit

Luke was afraid of Kylo possibly falling to the dark side. That fear nearly drove HIM to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger to hate, hate to suffering. I think it's actually a really interesting take on Skywalker's legacy. Isn't it playing it a little too safe to have Luke be this paragon of light side energy or whatever? Isn't it more daring to ask what a Luke Skywalker, plagued by fear and doubt, would look like? I honestly think that in 10, maybe 20 years, people might come around and see what I and others see here.