as a t r a n s person i think the caller needs to make this call to TYT, Sam carries a lot of water for us and he's not the guy to yell at

@losspol_3466

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more, Idk why he called Sam TWICE about this

@brandoncameron2686

Жыл бұрын

Sam Seder channel has done an incredible amount of trans videos over the past year. Sometimes I think they do too much. So I don’t know what that callers problem was. No other big named progressive KZread channel does as many trans videos as the Sam Seder channel.

@septimaserpent

Жыл бұрын

Honestly; The _One Point_ That Was Made That I *_Whole-Heartedly Agreed With_* & *_Really_* Made Me *Side-Eye The Majority Report* (Or *_At Least_* The Mods) Is When He Said He Specifically *_Tried Informing People_* Of *What The Contents Of The Tweets Ana Had Been Liking Were* & The Mods *_BLOCKED HIM_* For Doing So. *_That's_* *Grimey.*

@AshiwiZuni

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, sam and emma really are allies. The only thing that made me feel weird was the whole thing about mods in the KZread chat being dumb. Ive seen that kind of thing in alot of spaces, where a creators moderators basically just bar any and all criticism, but thats not necessarily Sams problem.

@Cancellator5000

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think people who are too wrapped up in online politics just aren't aware how normal what Ana said is even amongst liberals and isn't necessarily a grift. It's unfortunate, but it's not MRs job to take down or epically own TYT even if that was possible. The best they can do is cover it and state their opinion, which they did.

Imagine saying “I called you out on Twitter” to a show with 1.25 million subscribers and thinking they’d be aware of it.

@Commenter5651

Жыл бұрын

Yep. I already knew what kind of call it was going to be after that line. He isnt any better than the dozens of libertarian callers that Sam has debated over the years.

@ripztubig4457

Жыл бұрын

Attention seekers

@mosesoftheblock2311

Жыл бұрын

He should have hung up after he said ut. Anyone who thinks their one tweet with no response is worthy of being remembered is an idiot.

@SpeakingJargon

Жыл бұрын

strong Karen/"do you know who I am??" energy

@Walczyk

Жыл бұрын

@@Commenter5651 it was so cringey lol

This is what you get when you're terminally online. You start to confuse Twitter and KZread for reality.

@Weeping_Somnambulist

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's really quite sad. Twitter is a fucking joke and if you live your life on there, you need to get out more.

@JoeDirtisawsome

Жыл бұрын

You don't think that the stuff that people say online affects the real world? You don't think that Trump's tweets had any negative impacts on our society? You don't think that Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, and Steven crowders channel affect the real world? If KZread and Twitter isn't real life, why does the Majority Report talk about right wing KZreadrs all the time?

@idontwantahandlethough

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeDirtisawsome Jesus christ. Stop. Nobody said any of that. Of course it affects the real world! It's just simultaneously true that being on twitter too much makes it really, really difficult for human beings to put emphasis where it would actually be productive instead of just screaming into the void.

@UndertheNeedle282

Жыл бұрын

I'm on KZread all day and I would never 😂

@UndertheNeedle282

Жыл бұрын

​@@JoeDirtisawsome no one is saying that. But if you are perpetually online, you can lose perspective of the big picture by hyperfocusing on a small issue that appears bigger online than it is irl.

Caller gave me such parasocial vibes, they totally think that they get to decide what you do because they are the audience

@ihsahnakerfeldt9280

4 ай бұрын

I think his point was why spend so much time covering this issue without addressing the "elephant in the room" that is TYT's take on this? (I know it's only an elephant in the room when it comes to hyperonline leftist circles).

"I also had a business call, and it was with you... you just didn't answer." One of Sam's best lines ever.

@w0ody16

Жыл бұрын

Sam's form of humor is underrated.

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

Can The Majority Report please provide a report on the recent changes to legislation in Sweden regarding 'trans' children? Thanks in advance.

@greggreg1948

Жыл бұрын

@@alabamaman5994 why?

@rubymeaddle

Жыл бұрын

​@@alabamaman5994 TMR has a business email: send your requests there without spamming the comments

@BoringTroublemaker

Жыл бұрын

@@alabamaman5994 why do you keep putting trans in quotes, Alabama “Man”?

That caller is terminally online. Seriously log off.

I know you guys covered this petty twitter argument 3 times already, but the way you covered it wasn't terminally online enough for my tastes.

@somniatic

Жыл бұрын

💯

@MingWLee

Жыл бұрын

That's fair but at least you didn't demand Sam to monitor TYT, that's a huge different story.

@w0ody16

Жыл бұрын

@@MingWLee they're making fun of how absurd the caller was 😅

@andresabourin2423

Жыл бұрын

People desperately need to log off for their own health.

@vgaportauthority9932

Жыл бұрын

@@andresabourin2423 Either that, or just learn how to use the internet... Get off twitter, get off everything META owns, get off TikTok. These are hotbeds for idiocy, short inflammatory posts and trolling.. The only place on the internet where you can actually curate your own feed in a way that doesn't expose you to vermin is Reddit. You can absolutely destroy your mind with Reddit as well, but you can also filter out all the insane subs. That's not possible on twitter, instagram, toktok etc. You're just fed what your mind is triggered by on those platforms. KZread took a HORRIBLE turn for the worse with the shorts section. Absolutely destroyed the algo.

That caller was unhealthily parasocial. The audacity one would have to suggest you operate your business in the way that they see fit.

@hughquigley5337

Жыл бұрын

Bullseye. I totally agree

@hughhundo1996

Жыл бұрын

@Illhan Omar's Brother lmao 😂

@Toughmittens

Жыл бұрын

That’s how these concern trolls function. They don’t like someone so they jump at the opportunity to ostracize that person. They will fight tooth and nail until that person is left with nothing. For what? For calling misogynistic language out for what it is? This energy would be more useful elsewhere

@tomekgulash

Жыл бұрын

it't not about being parasocial. it's about journalist due diligence. Sam didn't want to listen to caller (and/or they weren't very clear about what they want to say) who clearly didn't want to change what Sam is talking about or his job on the show. It is in fact business (it's another point of Sam's misinterpretation of caller opinion) and Sam has people working on it. Every news and subject they are talking about can be (and should be) prepared with due diligence. That's how you suppose to talk about things that happen. Give background information, present facts, give opportunity to all sides of the subject to be presented (but without unhealthy "all sides are equal") and then give your opinion. That way its not only opinion pice but also normal and factual program. That's all.

@harrytan5579

Жыл бұрын

@@tomekgulash Asking someone to read the KZread comment section is being kind of parasocial.

Didn't Emma address this? She's the one with links to Ana and TYT. And she basically went over the whole issue and called out her friends, even though she obviously had a hard time doing it. Not sure why people keep giving oxygen to this issue. What more do you want them to say?

@t_ylr

Жыл бұрын

Multiple videos lol

@sullen2420

Жыл бұрын

Treat Ana like the Karen she is. She is actually a terrible person who has been this way for a long time. It's about time people see her for who she is and stop coddling her.

@xangelmoonx

Жыл бұрын

@@zartanicus Nobody wants that.

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

Жыл бұрын

Emma handled it perfectly. Ana and them are all friends. We know Ana has a near perfect record on trans issues, she just fudged the wording and got all lib white karen about it lolz. She's clearly got some work to do lol. But she's alright. No one's perfect : ) That being said. I think TYT is weak sauce compared to shows like MR hehehe.

@SpeakingJargon

Жыл бұрын

​@@zartanicus your strawman is leaking

If this guy has a problem with what Ana Kasparian said, let him take it up with her.

@Zeropointill

Жыл бұрын

This guy wants Sam to be his personal army.

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

Can The Majority Report please provide a report on the recent changes to legislation in Sweden regarding 'trans' children? Thanks in advance.

@maggierioux6501

Жыл бұрын

​@@Zeropointill I saw it as a failed interview to be Sam's producer, lol.

@TheFamousMockingbird

Жыл бұрын

she doesn't talk to regular every day folks like sam does, thats below her.

@HEllis-qu5nn

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!

At this point it’s giving Karen vibes. Taking your anger out on the wrong person. Over inflated ego. Beating a dead horse. We’re exhausted caller.

@wethepeople2023

Жыл бұрын

“We”

Lol at this guy. Though I can only speak for myself, as a trans woman, I think you all are doing a pretty good job covering trans issues and defending trans people. The idea that you should have to spend excess time covering the bad takes of hosts from another network is weird and unproductive.

@ObsidianLife

Жыл бұрын

This may be the best comment and best understanding of this whole issue on this entire thread.

@armondtanz

Жыл бұрын

Newsflash: the left eating each other offered whos offending who : grabs popcorn.

@jamesmcmillan2656

Жыл бұрын

Spot on

@estivel15

Жыл бұрын

Also, Ana and TYT are the biggest supporters of trans people. They cover all their issues. It's just too stupid to cancel them based on a different opinion.

@KyleCorvus

Жыл бұрын

Spending excess time covering bad takes of hosts is literally TYTs business model at this point and I hate it.

Can we just ban Twitter from life already. I just lose interest when I here something happened on Twitter.

@radioactivetrees9626

Жыл бұрын

Try something else.

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

Can The Majority Report please provide a report on the recent changes to legislation in Sweden regarding 'trans' children? Thanks in advance.

@AwesometownUSA

Жыл бұрын

@@alabamaman5994 good ass point! why hasn’t Sam provided the aforementioned report already?? SHAME on sam, for not doing the thing!

@Qorelin

Жыл бұрын

Elon is trying his hardest. Just give it some time.

@Zatzzo

Жыл бұрын

thx, i thought i was the only one.

>I called you out on twitter ngl, i'd laugh at that almost immediately. Kudos on Sam for controlling himself as that line was uttered.

@tab1907

Жыл бұрын

This guy has some importance complex "sorry Sam, I was on a BUSINESS call." 😂

@sarahtiferet598

Жыл бұрын

@@tab1907 LOL! yeah right there exposed him as a Man/ Baby who needs attention to feed that childish ego = poor thing

@sebastianwei7721

Жыл бұрын

Well social media banks on giving us the illusion that we‘ll be heard and can enter the discussion on the same level as any expert/media professional/whatever. So understandably somebody will be disillusioned sometimes. Also Sam speaks to anybody on the show, the lack of elitism suggests you can engage him pretty directly. (as the person did here) Expecting Sam to daily scan Twitter for at least hundreds of mentions/comments/reactions a day is a bit funny ofc.

@grimlicentia

Жыл бұрын

​@Harvey Kent touch grass

@vgaportauthority9932

Жыл бұрын

@Harvey Kent Here's how this works: When someone says something ultra dumb on twitter, Sam will be told by people he actually listens to. "Look at what this clown just replied to your tweet." When you have a massive community, a discord and generally just have a whole crew connected to the internet, you'll get most of the tweets worth reading without ever even reading anything on twitter. Not hard to grasp. Not saying he's never reading tweets, but it's not like he's there reading all the tweets and call outs. It's 95% noise, you grow tired of that shit PRETTY QUICK.

Caller proves why he's never invited to dinner parties.😅

@redlightmax

Жыл бұрын

1:01 John, while standing alone in the corner: "I called you out on Twitter, I imagine you saw that."

This caller is embarrassing, living 24/7 on twitter drama

@chidorirasenganz

Жыл бұрын

Except it’s not drama when a big purported left commentator makes terf statements and then you do a half assed reply to it

@theaviationist.5719

Жыл бұрын

@@chidorirasenganz Left wing commentator does not mean just telling us all what we want to hear. Where in the Leftist commentator manifesto does it require any leftist commentator to 100% agree with each and every other leftist on every issue? You guys need to get off Twitter and start living in the real world where rationality and maturity is key. People get themselves so worked up and have this Entitlement complex on nearly each and every issue. If you don’t 100% agree with me on each and every issue then you are not a Leftist or you are a grifter.. Grow up you adult babies. 🤦‍♂️

@cradio52

Жыл бұрын

@@chidorirasenganz Exactly. This wasn’t “drama.” This was a prominent left wing figure using their substantial platform to add yet MORE fuel to the raging fire trans people are dealing with right now. This is quite literally life and death sh*t. The last thing trans people needed at this time was what Ana did here, and it wasn’t just about her one single tweet - it was the tweets she was liking (she literally liked a tweet saying “people won’t stand for this anymore, the revolt against TRANSTHINK is growing!”) and the unhinged, angry, overly defensive and dismissive response her and Cenk made on their show. She even went so far as to say she never wants to work with another leftist ever again! Like wtf! Again, this all may have the veneer of “internet Twitter drama” but we’re talking about real, actual trans lives that are under attack from every angle on a daily basis. And then to see how Sam was equally as dismissive and defensive of the caller in this clip was just crazy to me. I really would have thought he’d be way more open to criticism and critique but he IMMEDIATELY just went off on this person and barely let them get full sentences out, portraying them as a terminally online loser who was dragging Sam for not monitoring Ana’s tweets on a daily basis. All the caller was trying to do was give them additional information that Sam & co. clearly don’t have, so they could get a fuller picture of what Ana was doing and THEN respond to it.

@elkeve2742

Жыл бұрын

@@chidorirasenganz No reply short of WE DENOUNCE ALL THIS TYT would have been enough. And while the left is infighting, transphobic laws are destroying a lot more lives.

@Takobella

Жыл бұрын

@@chidorirasenganzit’s is drama because her Twitter comments clowning on dumb terms is irrelevant on the grand scale of things. She constantly advocates against the bills passed against trans people, but she doesn’t need to agree with everything trans activists promote

How is it Sam and Emma's responsibility to deal with what Ana did...??? Its ANA's responsibility to deal with it.

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

But they brought it up. The reason this caller confronting Sam about this matter is because Emma made a video weeks ago, and she played defense for Ana, despite how bad Ana sounded.

@ObsidianLife

Жыл бұрын

@@barbiquearea Did you WATCH the video??? Emma said she's friends with Ana, Ana has her point of view and that it made her uncomfortable to talk about it. She also implied that Cenk attacked her (I've haven't looked at the Twitter thread). She NEVER defended what Ana said...

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

@@ObsidianLife But she didn't call Ana out. She could have been harsher in her criticism but alas it seemed like she hasn't forgotten her past stint on TYT before moving to host TMR. There is a difference between the way she addressed Ana's tweets compared to say David Pakman or the Humanist Report, who were far more critical of her.

@ObsidianLife

Жыл бұрын

@@barbiquearea ...why would she??? She did what she was comfortable doing. It's not her job to police Ana. You've NEVER had a friend do something you weren't ok with??? Did you call them out and publicly disavow them???

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

@@ObsidianLife I've never had a friend who has done something this egregious so no. But Emma and Sam have in the past made their concerns known very clearly and strongly when it comes to J.K Rowling's tweets. Well Ana's tweets were honestly not that different. Why are they treating Ana with kid gloves, while going down harder on Rowling just as TYT did?

Thank you for hanging up on this guy! If Ana made a mistake or said something wrong, then call her!

@BlueEyedBrunette

Жыл бұрын

TYT doesn't do calls do they?

@KittyJacque_

Жыл бұрын

@@BlueEyedBrunette are phones the only way they can be reached?

@DagmarSLNY

Жыл бұрын

@@BlueEyedBrunette So what?

@BlueEyedBrunette

Жыл бұрын

@@KittyJacque_ I mean yes take the issue to the person responsable not Sam. But I don't know if TYT has public comments/IMs/calls to be called out by.

@chidorirasenganz

Жыл бұрын

Nah it was a bad call on their point. Sam should have heard him out as he never let him finish his statement. Which is they did a half ass attempt at covering it

Sam is completely right in this, and he's legit doing what he can. Like a month ago somene called in and said sam's not doing enough to highlight the Ethiopian conflict. He said he would look Into it and he did, hes brought several ppl on since.

@bryanmack4054

Жыл бұрын

People are so damn whiny

@cmbsoldja

Жыл бұрын

​@@bryanmack4054 Can never please the Left.

@gourdguru

Жыл бұрын

yeah, they're pretty good about that stuff. while i think the caller is too hyperfocused, i do, to a degree, agree with his base point though. the drama with Ana lately wasn't just a single tweet, it was multiple statements on the show and was a huge discussion between multiple tyt members and other leftist personalities online that got pretty divisive, and the root of all of it is that Ana, either intentionally or unintentionally, is pretty fervently parroting and defending anti-trans TERF talking points. the caller is whiny, but sam's also being reductive by focusing on his complaint as a bickering over not being terminally on twitter, when i think the caller came off as abrasive but the overall point the caller has is valid: TYT and Majority Report are two of the largest most visible left outlets, if one of them's co-hosts start strangely pushing rightwing talking points repeatedly over this one issue with weak justification/rationale without real pushback from the rest of the network, we SHOULD be more attentive about that and try to keep our own house in order, so to speak. we are not immune to propaganda, and there are rightwing elements masquerading as left explicitly to influence the narrative, kneejerk reactionary politic isn't just a rightwing thing, just because she has a show doesn't mean she can't be taken as a fool. it does mean she can inadvertantly take others for a fool with her though due to her prominence/visibility. but ultimately Sam's not at fault, with how much horrible junk happens in a news day in today's political hellscape, he can't waste excessive time on what one peer is doing/saying on social media when he has 5 fascists doing fascisms to cover, and no one wants to have to be the heavy and critique a friend/ally, something we all need to get better at when it matters, i think.

@TheNewblade1

Жыл бұрын

@@gourdguru all very true. Ive chalked it up to them being relatively main stream, they have a cable channel. But Ana has been problematic over and over and the only defense we ever here "bro, it's tyt, there not right wing, come on bro"

The best was 1:01 when he said “I called you out on Twitter, I imagine you saw that” and Sam just makes a face and said “I did not”. Priceless

That caller is everything I hate about the left. Imagine if he put all that energy into some of the issues he claims to support instead of whatever this break down was.

@andresabourin2423

Жыл бұрын

Story as old as time! A constant problem on the left, unfortunately.

@Lalaphive

Жыл бұрын

You say this as if the right doesn't have the same issues or any large group of people for that matter. Infighting is a thing that happens with humans.

@Whoeverheardof

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Let me quibble about this one thing I can manage because significant issues are too overwhelming and hard for me.

@ONLYFACT_X

Жыл бұрын

this person is NOT the left. they most likely are an a la carte "leftist"

@bmslhs

Жыл бұрын

​@@Lalaphive at the end of the day the right stick together and get the things they want while the left argue over which words are appropriate to use.

As a trans person, I think you all are doing a great job covering news, including trans issues, as most are not doing so..especially, politely. Forget this dweeb caller! Thank you all & solidarity!✊

@esco819

Жыл бұрын

What a disgusting thing. Typical abnormal pos

@littlewingmyoho

Жыл бұрын

My son's name is Ben ....sending some love Ben ❤

@esco819

Жыл бұрын

@@littlewingmyoho that poor kid

@littlewingmyoho

Жыл бұрын

@@esco819 now why would that be esco

@esco819

Жыл бұрын

@@littlewingmyoho because you support those abnormal things confused about their gender and you kid will pick up on that. I actually feel sorry for him lol

Thank you Sam for not being on Twitter all the time. We need more Leftists off of Twitter and out of the useless drama that goes on there.

I think a lot of people (including the caller) just wants to see a catfight between TYT and other KZreadrs. I don't give a shit about internet drama and I applaud the Majority Report for not engaging.

I came out trans over 35yrs ago. Sam is my age. Seriously, only my besties fight harder on the issue of trans rights. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND, SAM. YOU'RE AS DADDY AS A CIS/HET MAN CAN BE ON THIS ISSUE! IDK what this caller's issue is but you're gold Sam.

@itsallgoodman4108

8 ай бұрын

As “daddy” as you cann get? God trans lexicon is cringe bullshit

In my opinion, Emma had the last word on this situation, and Sam is right, MR isn't the police of TYT. There's clearly a reason Emma no longer works there.

@Etherchannel

Жыл бұрын

Emma is prolly the most remedial person on the show.

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

Жыл бұрын

Emma is not working there because she will never take over Ana’s job. Emma has better opportunities in MR. Emma is good friends with Ana. What are you on about? 😂 Tyt isn’t your enemy. It’s ok to disagree on some issues. We aren’t lemmings.

@GeteMachine

Жыл бұрын

@jcorb But they didnt stay out of it. They already addressed it.

That caller lives a very small life! He thinks the world revolves around Twitter. It really doesn't.

@puckerings

Жыл бұрын

The phrase is 'terminally online.' It's a very real phenomenon.

purity testing on the left has been its downfall a lot of time

@evil_seagull

Жыл бұрын

purity testing should be left to the right wing

*Dooode thinks the universe revolves around Ana's tweets and his little world!!!*

I love the MR show. I think this guy is being overly critical. You all make me feel a little more sane while I endure Oklahoma. Almost ready to graduate and promptly move.

@theguilloriousmind5832

Жыл бұрын

Hang in there And congratulations 🎉

@BlueEyedBrunette

Жыл бұрын

Hello, fellow lefty Okie. Sorry to see you and your vote go but also don't blame you. In the meantime, solidarity. There are dozens of us!

@idontwantahandlethough

Жыл бұрын

aye congrats dude :)

@greenlime1997

Жыл бұрын

Probably a good idea to leave that backward state that seems to be stuck in 1850.

@BlueEyedBrunette

Жыл бұрын

@@greenlime1997 As with everywhere, it's a urban/rural divide. So yeah it's awful but it's like...there are always going to be purple and blue spots even in the reddest states. Like the caller from Tennessee said, just because the state is red don't forget about us.

It seems like audiences on the left are expecting the same standard of tailored reporting, style, and vocabulary that right wingers demand from their pundits. Don’t get captured by the audience. You’re not crazy, it is not apparent that you have misreported or covered up the story about Anna’s controversial statements. Thanks for the show.

@johnquinones9669

2 ай бұрын

Ana represents us disaffected liberals.

Emma's follow up last week was wonderful given all the dynamics. Attacking Sam and MR over this again is just comical.

There's NO WAY this caller actually listens to the words on the show when they make the false accusations about TMR not defending the use of inclusive language. The caller is so disingenuous that it almost seems like trolling.

@yeikes

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he was just a giant douche? His scoffs and talk overing was unbearable. Imagine working with that guy

@GeteMachine

Жыл бұрын

I doubted. Emma literally did defend it.

@w0ody16

Жыл бұрын

@@GeteMachine they have a YT video where she calls it out you clown

Hey sorry I had a business call come in, meant to reply earlier. Caller is an absolute dork.

Caller’s got some nerve lmfao

@davidchidester5463

Жыл бұрын

Your mods blocked me for spamming so I'm gonna do it irl.

Sams willingness to debate his critics makes him the GOAT RIP Michael brooks

@zeeone4492

Жыл бұрын

He obviously picks who he airs

@davelebowski2859

Жыл бұрын

No you are thinking about your boy crowder. Sam lives to debate, why don't you call him and whine? I dnt have the patience

The conversation begins with a caller criticizing the speakers for not addressing a controversial tweet by The Young Turks' (TYT) Anna Kasparian and the subsequent online backlash. They argue that the speakers, particularly Emma, should have been more vocal about the issue, and they question whether the speakers are doing enough to fight against transphobia. Sam responds by explaining that they believe Emma tackled the substance of the issue multiple times, and they reject the idea that she shouldn't have said anything, as she would have been criticized either way. Sam and the other speakers then discuss their openness to critique and their efforts to pay more attention to relevant legislation and concerns related to trans rights. The conversation also touches upon accusations that TYT is a right-wing project, which the speakers dismiss as absurd. They emphasize the limitations of their platform and their focus on the most significant issues, acknowledging that they may not cover every detail or aspect that the audience would like them to.

@adamrisch

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the cliffs, I'm definitely not interested in watching the video, I've seen more than enough about this topic already and don't need to rehash it yet again. At least not until the next time Cenk or Ana sticks their foot in their mouth bad enough for me to hear about it lol. As a very vocal critic of both of them myself, I would like to say that I certainly do not think it's accurate to view TYT as a "right-wing" project, but at the same time I think it's equally naive to view them as a genuinely progressive project. The main show is a vanity project for Cenk and Ana, and a capitalist project for them and their investors - and I'm not talking about the ordinary people they dupe into giving them money.

@doom2060

Жыл бұрын

I would say a portion of the callers critique is a blind spot saying when weighing in on topics related to Ana they need to do the similar kind of dive. Sam said he only say one tweet and didn’t bother reading into what she said more. When commenting on an issue, like they do with Dore, it should be incumbent on them to provide a full accounting of their comments

@paulhammond6978

Жыл бұрын

@@adamrisch I agree with you. It's been discussed enough. People talked about it. Emma talked about it. Ana got something wrong, isn't backing down on it. I mean, there's not much more to say about it is there?

@CortexNewsService

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhammond6978 And Emma and Sam have addressed it more than once even though it was difficult because they do know Cenk and Ana as people. Emma actually worked for them. The definition of an ally is speaking out even when it is hard. MR and Emma especially have done that. Would I like them to do more? Yeah. But as a member of the LGBTQ community, I can't find fault with how they've dealt with it.

@kevinbradley8613

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhammond6978 it is ALL there is to talk about. They were thinking about this issue for several weeks. In my opinion, TMR and Emma covered this perfectly already. It just wasn’t enough for this caller…

I really wished twitter had failed and died, because the left gets bogged down in shitty tweets and petty shit so much. Like I would understand if someone was like "Ana is against X legislation for trans people and said it on the show" vs "she doesn't like talking in this language on twitter". There's only so much energy, and using it like this is incredibly stupid.

@MrJoester19

Жыл бұрын

Well that’s not the argument the argument was that all of the facts about her also liking terf shit was just ignored let’s not act like she’s innocent and then they immediately did a story about how trans people should actually be protesting like that isn’t shitty. Like I don’t agree with telling a contact creator what they should and shouldn’t talk about but if you do talk about something I feel like you can be called out for what you leave out and if you do leave that stuff out did you really do a good job is a fair question

@techsupport891

Жыл бұрын

​@@MrJoester19 ​@MrJoester19 That's the problem and what most people are missing. @jawanddough is 100% correct. This is a language issue.

@paulhammond6978

Жыл бұрын

It is true that it's crazy getting all worked up about this "person said something on twitter" crap when you actually have state legislatures trying to enact bans on trans health care or establish lists of trans people, like borderline fascist stuff is literally happening and people are still obsessing about one person's stupid tweet about something that doesn't really happen.

@CabVideoz

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhammond6978 The problem I see is that her dumb tweet then gets passed around by the ppl pushing the shitty bills to say, "See even the lefties hate trans people!"

@MrJoester19

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhammond6978 but that’s their point as well it doesn’t happen so why bring it up when you’re predominant and you get so many likes and just embolden the audience for those laws the people who agree with that and then to run on TYT how trans people actually should protest against transphobia video for a bonus episode. I don’t think she’s trans phobic but I do think she’s playing into their hands with that shit it is important to bring up because of their audience that’s the point it’s not a rando. I feel like if you talk about that enough people were bringing up that behavior you should also see that, like I didn’t know but that sucks she’s doing that she shouldn’t that’s all it takes.

I am incredibly saddened that Sam isn’t personally reviewing every youtube comment.

The caller really just wanted Sam to cancel TYT and go full nuclear attacking them. It's pretty obvious nothing less would be enough for that person.

@proto7310

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, Ana made a dumb tweet and never apologized for it. Ana has pride and doesn't admit she was wrong, but we can't hold her on a stake for a dumb thing she said. It's time to just move on.

@alphabetpeople2902

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what TYT deserves.

@coladict

Жыл бұрын

@@alphabetpeople2902 you are a the problem with the left. You are why we keep losing when we have majority support on all the issues.

@alin81-82

Ай бұрын

He must be a vanguard fan, they do that constantly.

It seems to me that the caller should just do a video essay on Kasparian and TYT and publish it on yt himself. His critique of TMR is largely that Sam and Emma aren't doing the exact show that he wants to see.

@ard45387

Жыл бұрын

Spot on. There are plenty of unlikeable terminally online dossier collectors doing unhinged half hour rants on KZread, but at least they put in the work. This dude can't even do that, so he's gotta hijack someone else's show.

Good lord, TMR had the best coverage of the Ana thing (which I probably wouldn't have even covered in their position), and they're still getting this unpleasantness.

@woodenspoon6222

Жыл бұрын

I always tell people I actually like that we on the left have so many disagreements. But yeah, I think sometimes it gets a bit silly. Still, at least people seem to mostly be earnest in their concerns and not just flaming.

@ard45387

Жыл бұрын

​@@woodenspoon6222yep, MR and TYT both seem earnest. Ana may have a bugaboo about the term "birthing person" but as a whole is pro trans. Certainly not a grifter. Or if she is, I'm not sure where the grift is going, so on the very slim chance it's a grift, it's a very poor one. I certainly can't say with the caller's amount of confidence that TYT is a right wing grift. I have zero evidence of that, and I'm very familiar with their show.

I hope the caller has the time and inclination to read all of these comments. 🔥

I am just offended that Sam has never referred to a single KZread comment of mine. I’ve made hundreds!

@hughquigley5337

Жыл бұрын

*slams hand on desk* THATS WHAT IM SAYING!

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

@@taranullius9221 it must eat you up inside knowing he desperately wants to talk to me and I just ghost him. Now dance for me.

@ard45387

Жыл бұрын

Hey Sam. Read this comment on your next show. Purple monkey dishwasher. I demand it.

@Junebug89

11 ай бұрын

@@alabamaman5994 Why would he even know who you are lmao

Sam has the patience of a saint.

@LegoWarFims

Жыл бұрын

@jcorb who wouldn’t after talking about with the same shit and getting interrupted.

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

Not for Jimmy Dore. That guy has a special pace in Sam's heart, and its not a good place.

@JoshuaWillis89

Жыл бұрын

Sam is completely full of shit here and cut the guy off right as he was illustrating just how full of shit he is. MR will actually put effort into calling out Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin, etc., but can’t be bothered to give Ana the same treatment? I like MR, and I appreciate that they usually do put the effort in.

@davidm1926

Жыл бұрын

@@barbiquearea Good.

@Raherin

Жыл бұрын

Saint Seder

If you think The Majority Report is not vocal enough about transphobia at this point, you either are not watching the show or you are just looking for pointless drama and conflict, like this caller

I simply cannot imagine: A) the saga around this tweet getting as much airtime from TMR as it has B) someone being so upset about the tweet that they call into the show to complain about it C) doing all this months after the actual incident

Berating and guilt tripping people to make them think the way you think is not productive at all

@thedj3319

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Kinda like berating right wingers for not using a language you want them to use 😂 soo close at realizing, yet so far.

@docmalthus

Жыл бұрын

@@willow5571 It's not "aloud". It's "allowed". You're welcome.

@cctomcat321

Жыл бұрын

​@@thedj3319 ..."don't hit people also means don't defend yourself if hit". That's the big brain argument you're making. As annoying as this ish is, I can always count on one of you to be more obnoxious and fragile than a triggered lib.

@pcoleman1971

Жыл бұрын

@@willow5571 I have yet to understand how a cis woman not wanting to be called a birthing person is transphobic. Intent is important. When conservatives use language to discriminate, and promote policies which hurt minority groups, than yes, we should focus on what they are saying. If Ana is transphobic, prove it. Where is her statement supporting the de-funding or banning of gender affirming care? Where is her statement calling for trans women to not be allowed to use a woman's washroom? Is there any transphobic policy she is on record of supporting?

@letsgobrandon9867

Жыл бұрын

@@willow5571 what was transphobic?

Pardon my cynicism, but it has become impossible to discern whether a person is disappointed that a wrong wasn't righted, or if they simply feel slighted that they missed a chance to have their dogpile addiction fed. Watching KZreadrs go at each other is a bloodsport for far too many.

@polferiferus1938

Жыл бұрын

TBH I don’t even think said disappointed ppl know which a lot of the time. Society has perhaps become far more reactionary and less contemplative than is productive-to the extant that watching people watching ('reacting to') movies has become a phenomenon (in spite of this comment, I myself cop to enjoying some of them.) I say ‘perhaps’ because, as someone in their late 50s, I’ve never seen so much societal (and thus political) leftward progress in the last 5+ years than I have my whole lifetime. Of course, this is driving the center-right to attempt a desperate correction. Either way, TMR is doing a pretty good job, I think, especially when compared with other outlets, of remaining thoughtful and balancing the varying tasks they’ve set for themselves. The left is currently fending off targeted stabs from every angle imaginable!

When they first addressed the issue I had no clue what they were talking about and I had to google the tweet.

How could you not devote all your time to a single, acerbic tweet by an ally when the nation is an election away from outright fascism?

Sam was very diplomatic here. He was trying very hard to politely say I disagree with Anna and he explained why and, now we move on cause this is a nothing burger when it comes to the overall picture in fighting for the trans community and their rights.

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

If it was a nothing burger yall wouldn't be making videos about it a month later, son.

@MsTMarie83

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.. what's the point of arguing? Keep dividing the democratic vote like we did in 2016..

@Steve_Smith_OFB

Жыл бұрын

@@alabamaman5994 just cause you make a video about an issue does not mean it is an issue..........

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

@@Steve_Smith_OFB I not the one making videos about it. Y'all are. You understand that, right?

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

Its not a nothing burger. Ana's tweets were used by right wing sectors on the internet to reinforce their bigotry. I for one am disappointed in Ana for these statements because she and the rest of TYT have dunked on J.K Rowling in the past for making similar opinions about defining women. Her hypocrisy is shameful, and I wish Sam and Emma would address that.

Ima progressive I’m respectful and try to use the proper terms and pronouns I just feel like these members in our tent are the most whiny and annoying and they always seem like you can never make them happy … nothing is black & white Sam covers more than enough amazing topics that nobody else covers I do t mind that he’s not on twitter combing through comments to be your white knight

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but Ana's tweets has gotten a lot of people on the left stupefied and upset that other left wing outlets like the Humanity Report and David Pakman have called Ana out for it. So why can't the team on the Majority Report do the same? Maybe its because they're good friends. That's the issues I have.

@Baasudei

Жыл бұрын

@@barbiquearea But they did? Sam said at the beginning it was a transphobic act, Emma had that whole call recently. If you want them to do "more", then whatever you want I guess, but they clearly called it out.

@barbiquearea

Жыл бұрын

@@Baasudei If this was Steven Crowder or Jimmy Dore making such statements, I bet you Sam would have brought down the hammer on them. But with Ana Kasperian, both he and Emma have held back their criticism. They haven't criticized her personally, just pointed out they disagree with what she said. I doubt they would have addressed anybody else with such kid gloves.

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

OK, if it doesn't matter that much why don't y'all stop saying it?

@hughquigley5337

Жыл бұрын

Barbiquera… if Steven Crowder said what Ana said, it would have been just another day that ends in the letter “y”. And Jimmy Dore does this shit too because he constantly panders to the audience he’s garnered. That mf (Crowder) is transphobic as hell!!!! What are you talking about?

Smart independent thinkers should not have to think alike on every topic like sheeps. So if Ms. Kasparian doesn't want to be called a birthing person, why can't people respect that. There are far more important issues plaguing the trans community than one woman that doesn't want to be called something she objects. How is Ana not wanting to be called a birthing person taking away the rights of trans people ? These idiot callers itching for a fight between TYT and MR because Ana said something they disagree with. Where does it say every leftist media have to have the same opinion on everything ? Grow up people.

Calling one person to complain about a beef with another person is really kind of lame. This guy needs to keep off Twitter. In fact, everyone should!

I've often thought Sam's biggest shortcoming is that he allocates far too much of his time touching grass. If he's not reading every tweet by Ana, then what next? Not reading all of _my_ tweets?! I mean, could you imagine? I certainly can't.

The guy had like half a point, but he took it way overboard when he started accusing them of their intentions being bad

@septimaserpent

Жыл бұрын

Honestly; The _One Point_ That Was Made That I *_Whole-Heartedly Agreed With_* & *_Really_* Made Me *Side-Eye The Majority Report* (Or *_At Least_* The Mods) Is When He Said He Specifically *_Tried Informing People_* Of *What The Contents Of The Tweets Ana Had Been Liking Were* & The Mods *_BLOCKED HIM_* For Doing So. *_That's_* *Grimey.*

@soulife8383

Жыл бұрын

He definitely went out of his way to make a bad look out of himself

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

I said it here 2 years ago... Ana will be right wing. She is too pretty and too high T to be a progressive.

@cameronmcleod8419

Жыл бұрын

​@Alabama Man She's not going to peg you Aaron, even if you ask real polite

@Southboundpachyderm

Жыл бұрын

@@alabamaman5994 weird fetish dude.

When I saw the title of this video, I literally thought that it would come from a mainstream liberal being angry at Sam for criticizing Ana’s Tweets. This? I didn’t expect. Is the issue that he didn’t call it out with enough intensity? He literally agreed with the caller. This is so weird.

@ObsidianLife

Жыл бұрын

ok, but he also said he hadn't really followed it or been involved. What SHOULD he say???

@Darksoul9669

Жыл бұрын

The issue is literally that Ana's twitter use isn't like some main source of contention right now or being covered. I mean I think Ana's tweets were fucking stupid and doubling down on them even more so. Which seems to be the general consensus. So I assume the caller's main point of contention is that every time TYT has doubled down on these statements that MR hasn't specifically pushed back against TYT every single time.

@alphabetpeople2902

Жыл бұрын

Mainstream liberals don't grift to the right only lefty class reductionist a55holes do, and my God, the lefty class reductionist TYT has produced many such grifters over the years. Socialists are fascists in disguise and always have been: Stalin, Mao, and even Jesus.

@interdimensionalsteve8172

Жыл бұрын

Caller needs to get off the internet for a few days. Go get a sandwich, maybe a coffee with a girl. Get outside, go for a walk in a park, maybe spend some time to organize his priorities.

@alphabetpeople2902

Жыл бұрын

@@interdimensionalsteve8172 And Ana needs to be cancelled. If she's wanna be like that, it's fine. Just leave the left first.

Caller just wanted to scream and be outraged

People who want outrage media should look elsewhere. Millions of subscribers and you don’t read all comments? Ha ha how could they? Sam isn’t soaking every second about every kernel of controversy for likes. That’s why we listen to him. To be informed. To laugh a little at people we can’t stand.He’s Independent media for a reason and very successful doing so.

@alin81-82

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@jamesmcmillan2656

Жыл бұрын

Outrage is so addictive it’s the one ingredient that makes Murdoch billions. I never feel outrage when listening to this program just informed.

@ard45387

Жыл бұрын

When I listen to MR, it's because I specifically *don't* want outrage media. I want calm, nuanced discussion of real issues.

He basically called for Sam to bash Ana for the whole show

I think Emma covered this as well as she could, and was honest about how difficult it was to do so. Was surprised that the caller suggested not tackling the subject at all - that would have been worse, surely.

@piggsquigg983

Жыл бұрын

yeah that felt like an extremely dishonest complaint to me too

@matthewmayton1845

Жыл бұрын

If MR didn't cover this issue, they would get called out on it, and this caller would complain why MR refused to call out TYT

@Vynjira-chan

Жыл бұрын

I do think Emma's response was a bit too defensive of Ana (just singing Ana's praises while saying she did disagree with Ana's tweet, but never said the Tweet was Transphobic), and the original title of the Video played into that more. THAT having been said.. Emma and Ana are/were close friends, so it's understandable.. I never honestly expected Emma to be Ana's harshest critic on this.. but I should probably come back to this after talking about Sam's response because there is a lot more context here.. Sam's take was slightly better, making sure everyone knew what was said was Transphobic.. but he doesn't have any reason to believe based on past commentary that they are Anti-Trans.. (it didn't help that Emma tried to minimize the comparison to JK Rowling, and that Emma also tried to defend Ana on the claim that no one has called her "Birthing Person" etc.. The fact that Emma did not call it Transphobic, and seemed to downplay it, while simultaneously overselling Ana's record on Trans issues as being kind of laughable to suggest Ana could even be Anti-Trans.. really didn't help the situation.) When the original title stating definitively that Ana wasn't Anti-Trans, Emma's really defensive comments, it did make it seem like Sam was walking on Eggshells a bit more.. _____________________________ Now it's very important to note.. this is not where the story ended.. ALL OF THIS was before Emma called out Cenk on Twitter.. and this is where Emma clearly put a lot of emotional energy trying to get her friends back on track, and was severely burned for her efforts. This is HONESTLY where a lot of people who have been strong Advocates for Trans people, give up and prioritize their Friendship and abandon the Trans Community. So to see Emma put in that kind of Emotional Labor and be willing to get burned by friends.. says so much about her as a Human Being shows that she really cares about Trans people and will not abandon them. ________________________________________ Which I should mention, if you see Trans people getting heated over these issues.. try to remember they're under constant attacks, and a good portion of them have been abandoned by people they thought were there friends, or their allies, and even family members.. so many times.. that their perspective is going to be very different from someone who is not experiencing this on the daily. _________________________________________________ Ultimately, while I do think they could of done better, to say they shouldn't of covered it at all.. is wild to me, I'm very glad Sam called it Transphobic.. and even tho Emma was defensive up front and I do wish she would retract her defense of Ana.. because Ana's personal track record on Trans issues... is actually quite bad.. and it has been for some time.. I do think it was actually very important for people to see Close Friends siding with Trans people... and it showed how much credit people were giving Ana, and to watch how Ana tried to turn these people into hateful Demons trying to destroy her.

@ValerianDare5658

Жыл бұрын

who fucking cares how hard it was for her? Ya'lll are the parasocial ones, it's embarrassing. My folks are being made illegal in multiple states and y'all still can't stop running interference for soft cis women who don't fight for us until we BEG

@chidorirasenganz

Жыл бұрын

I think the biggest issue is that they did an incomplete job of covering the tweet and inadvertently ended up downplaying the tweet and it’s effects as well as her and cenk’s troubleing remarks that were made later.

This guy needs to realise that posting is neither politics nor activism, and that what's going on on Twitter isn't what's important.

As someone who works manufacturing in Sacramento, CA the Twitter world seems so disconnected from the real world

@hughquigley5337

Жыл бұрын

My dude I’m a college student that listens to a lot of left KZread videos and let me just say that this is too terminally online for me as well. Yeah there are updates to the situation but unless it’s something really major then I think it’s ridiculous to expect everyone to make a comment about it

"I've had a lot of thoughts in the last few weeks" Citation needed.

~"You didn't criticise it in the exact way I wanted you to."~ Sam has more patience than me. Twitter is full of people like this. They're either disingenuous or not all there.

@barexampasser

Жыл бұрын

They’re the average leftist

Not every channel can or should be all things to all people. The pundits have personal interests and areas of expertise which naturally will get the majority of their focus. Democracy Now has their focus, TYT has their focus, TMR has their focus. Everyone can focus on what they want. Seems pitiful to complain that people doing the good deeds have not done enough to solve every problem. Doing ANYTHING positive in this age should be cause for praise.

@techsupport891

Жыл бұрын

💯

@GeteMachine

Жыл бұрын

People shouldn't want left wing media to be centralized. We should want different topics spread out, but networked so all the focus of an issue can stay on a channel that specializes in it. I suggest people watch Breakthrough News and Good Politics Guy if they want a similar channel to TMR but focused on foreign affairs. I don't assume TMR can do everything.

@grod805

Жыл бұрын

I'm so with you. I'm over this mess. I am a fan of TYT and I agree with Ana on this particular issue. All other left leaning shows don't have to agree with each other

@Regenmacher175

Жыл бұрын

@@grod805 I mean...until the day Ana only talks to people like Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro, at which point you're either not going to react at all because you were on their side to begin with (and in which case I'd say you are not a leftist) or you're going to be horrified to discover what far-right nonsense you let slide just so people could stop fighting in the moment.

@ValerianDare5658

Жыл бұрын

what a stupid complaint this is. this is why trans folks can't trust cis people. You'll abandon us for fucking peanuts.

ugh I can't believe how serious people take youtube/twitter culture babble when they're ultimately so unimportant.

@sullen2420

Жыл бұрын

Did you say this EVERY time MR rips on Rubin or Dore? Why do you think it's "unimportant" to call out Karen-in-chief, Ana?

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

Жыл бұрын

@@sullen2420 I think it's all kind of important. Dimmy doron and rave doobin inspire hatred and stupidity. Countering it is smart. Ana worded stuff poorly and has too much of a ego to admit it. Annoying behavior as it just makes you unpleasant to be around and it's important that ana looks good so we get more leftists seeing a person like her make progressive points. She's great... she just screwed up this one time lolz. And a few other times haha but hey she's like 90% good haha. But I do agree there are more important issues. Economy... climate... war...

@sullen2420

Жыл бұрын

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 No, she isn't great. She is a hateful Karen. You can see the hatred in her eyes when she is rightly ridiculed for her garbage positions. "Im not working with leftists anymore waaaaauughh!" is what she last said. It's not just about her being anti-trans, anti-union in practice, but also her wanting to arrest all homeless people, double down on saying no defunding police departments, openly hoping the Dem lost L.A. mayoral race to that billionaire capitalist....this is a pattern wit her. She in NO WAY is a role model for people on the left. She needs to be ridiculed just like the other grifters.

@docmalthus

Жыл бұрын

@@sullen2420 Rubin and Dore are the very definition of "unimportant". You don't think so? Well fine. That's you, whatever you are.

@sullen2420

Жыл бұрын

@@docmalthus It's important to highlight people's bullshit, yes. Even if it's someone you like, get over your bias.

So you addressed a tweet, but not every single tweet, or every single aspect of a tweet, or every single like that the tweeter then committed, or every single tweet about the like that the tweeter committed, or every single tweet, about each tweet, about each like... How dare you! Also how dare Emma! How do I stomp off of this chat thing?

Wow….this was dismissive from the start and he barely let the man speak before summing up his whole “mindset” FOR him….kinda cringe

This whole situation sucks and I just want it to be over

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

That's not how it works.

@JoshuaWillis89

Жыл бұрын

Ostrich mentality

@tylerhackner9731

Жыл бұрын

Same

@jeffpro8

Жыл бұрын

Me too

@str8delco589

Жыл бұрын

I hope it continues

“Hi, Sam, it’s John from Indiana….you’re wrong bc, bc I’m John from Indiana.”

Did that guy say TYT has been running a Right Wing grift for 3 years now?? If so, wtf is he talking about?

@vivahernando1

Жыл бұрын

Not agreeing with 100% of his version of modern progressive secular humanism means you are a grifter

@alin81-82

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I wouldn't agree w that. They've been having bad takes using rightwing talking points, but it's not for 3 or 4 years.

I'm Autistic. I am an advocate for Autistic people. But my own COMMUNITY has sometimes been their own worst enemies. Because they get lost in energetic POLICING of their ALLIES, instead of building unity in the face of the real enemy. Ive told other Neurodiverse people, "You are an army who shoots their own soldiers."

Sam can get prickly when a caller critiques with "you're not giving enough attention to X" even when X is a real issue like some conflict going on overseas... And this guy thought he'd be receptive to "you don't pay enough attention to your youtube comments and online twitter drama threads"?

@OG-zr3bw

Жыл бұрын

This is what happens when someone is terminally online, they can only see the world through the lens of twitter and other social media.

@Cenyon

Жыл бұрын

@Harvey Kent Lmao. You know everyone can call in, right?

@KingJT80

Жыл бұрын

@jcorb That's the issue You think that being a debate bro is going to be better for people people don't give a shit about that most normies don't give a crap about a 3-hour debate Vausch has This is really online very very specific stuff you're talking about The only people that are watching it or people that are highly political and highly in tune with this stuff most normal people are not going to watch that.... This may be better for your opinions to form, but it's not better for anybody else and in general This channel does a good job at talking to people who are on the left or maybe progressive and even more normal people that are liberals

@empanada223

Жыл бұрын

@@KingJT80 I mean, I keep up with politics and current events online myself and I'm not sitting there for no damn fuckin' three hour debate! I got shit to do lmao!

@psymaira

Жыл бұрын

Let's be honest you can't have a decent debate when you start critiquing how that person is not reading your Twitter comments or YT comments... It will never end well

Why when we interact with the Trans community we are to use their preferred pronouns but when we say we dont want to be called CIS or Birthing Person , this is a problem?

The fact that MR did spend so much time covering this YET didn't mention Ana Kasparian's tweets is the point. It is indeed disingenuous to paint this as simply a lack of ability to cover every single thing which the caller wasn't criticizing the show for.

Honestly it sounds like John from Indiana wants TMR to be a lot more like TYT, which is to say that it should be emotionally charged and mired in drama. I used to listen to TYT every day and left for practical reasons (could no longer watch a video feed and TMR's podcast feed isn't a clusterfuck like TYT's). One of the things I appreciate about TMR is how I don't have to listen to Cenk get all emotional about something and have some argument riddled with misunderstandings with Ana. I think it's pretty rich to call TYT grifters or right wing. That seems pretty goofy, they have different politics (Cenk specifically) and a different approach to what should be done to make the country better. Yes it is more centrist, or less ideological, Cenk is into electoralism very strongly, which is what backed him into this odd and stupid position. He succumbed to Carville-brain. I don't think there's anything productive to be had shouting down TYT, nothing in a tweet or show discourse will change their mind, they will just double down. The only thing valuable would be for people like Emma to maintain a relationship with Ana and exist as someone who disagrees with that position, and normalizes the correct positions.

@GeteMachine

Жыл бұрын

Which is funny, because that is what makes TYT's main channel reactionary and being reactionary is what lead to this, and why reactionaries will change their stances on things depending on what they are emotionally reacting to or against. TMR tends to have better takes because they sound more thought out, where as Cenk and Ana are very ego-driven and are morally influenced by just what bothers them personally, moreso Ana. You can see what makes them reactionary just by their overall content. Like Ana's rant against the abortion ban is no different than her rant now against Birthing People. Its the same energy. Different topic. She doesnt like what she doesnt like. Its why she can be hypocritical a lot of the time, more recently.

Who gives a shit? I like that Sam doesn't get involved with the stupid online drama.

@Dc0sby

Жыл бұрын

Pakman too

@alabamaman5994

Жыл бұрын

Tim Pool. Jimmy Dore. Glenn Greenwald. Dave Rubin. Matt Taibbi....

I understand this caller's frustration, but they are being unreasonable.

@amberwilliams8240

Жыл бұрын

Right. They're frustrated with the wrong people.

What a narcissistic caller. Hall monitor types like that caller are super annoying.

Good on Sam for not folding to that guy

@Tesla_Death_Ray

Жыл бұрын

He still thinks Ana has to fold to new language she finds offensive as a woman, just because it's trans orthodoxy.

@falconeshield

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Sam's lived through the analog times before the digital era. He knows there's a world beyond social media.

@andresabourin2423

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@@Tesla_Death_Ray It is not trans orthodoxy to say that. Most people aren't terminally online

@Tesla_Death_Ray

Жыл бұрын

@Andre Sabourin then why is it a huge scandal for a liberal not to play along? Emma is in tears trying to reconcile being friends with her. As if Ana has committed a war crime against a baby. Honestly of all the queer movements, the trans community is the most hysterical.

It’s Not Your Job to Follow someone down the Rabbit Hole of endless thoughts for weeks. The Caller is Not your Producer. He has No Clarification, He is Falling Down Big Time. STOP! Go your own direction. Your Right.

All Sam had to say about Twitter is that it's totally toxic and not really worth his or anyone's time. Any time spent there is 99% frivolous and should be tweated as such. ;)

If Sam was defending Ana's tweet that would be one thing, but I'm pretty sure Sam agreed that inclusive language is preferable, so this just comes off as unhinged.

Oh no, not again. Please, this whole situation has been a sh*tshow from beginning to end. Can we just move on?

@will_the_warlord8913

Жыл бұрын

no

@onalos1271

Жыл бұрын

Agree. This is the perfect example of how some people expect everyone to have perfect takes every time. It's impossible. Anna had a bad take. Move on.

@numskul

Жыл бұрын

@jetr nah. We have to find a way to triage our concerns.

@techsupport891

Жыл бұрын

​@jetr Not the argument. All parties involved are pro tran. Anna was referring to herself, but in a way that was dismissive of trans people whom she is an ally to. Ultimately Anna should apologize and then everyone can move on to this.

@flamemasterelan

Жыл бұрын

@jetr What do you think this is solving for the trans community? Ana was wrong to say what she said. Her argument that the comfort of the majority should be weighed against the inclusion of the minority was exactly the sort of thinking that MLK railed against. She also fed a lot of transphobes with her comment. Even if she didn't intend to come across as transphobic, she encouraged it. And she's since gone on to like some quite transphobic tweets that agree with her. Very much a J.K. Rowling turn. We should obviously denounce her. But that's all that can be done. She's dug her feet in, and there's no point in arguing with her anymore. Just cut ties and move forward. Stop giving her oxygen.

This is one of reasons why progressive progress in the US is so difficult, he's nitpicking from some weird moral high ground

Sam kinda just became indignant. I don't think the caller ever even said what his point was. So not even saying it was valid just that Sam went nuclear defence. There is like 8 mins left in the video and his voice is still shrieking.

in the last clip posted, Emma (and whoever is off-screen in this clip) made sure to talk about how "birthing person" is cringe and clumsy before moving onto the bulk of their argument. Sam ends this clip with a call to action on making the full context known, when the caller was seemingly muted from the YT chat for making said context known. i think it's just that, at the end of the day, someone really close to y'all was transphobic, is still being transphobic, and is getting support from others at TYT for their transphobia. Based on all the clips it feels like pulling teeth to try to get y'all to give Ana the same treatment you'd give someone like Dore, and then when multiple people walk on the eggshells to bring it up to y'all you get upset there were any expectations of the show or the hosts at all.

@johnsushi2007

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I’m feeling like I’m taking crazy pills. I don’t want them to address this 40 times; I think It only needed addressed twice (the first time Ana did it and the second fiasco she dragged it up). The second one proved beyond a doubt that the first one wasn’t a fluke, and no one at Majority Report has spoken about this issue contextually, which is the kind of analysis I come to a show like this for.

@MrLinkster7

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsushi2007 As someone who doesn't even know the full context it's clear they are much more hesitant than usual to dig into something here. It's awkward watching sam miss the point entirely and go on about it not being his job to see everything everywhere. Like yeah, that's fine but now that we have brought it to your attention maybe comment on it? No one is saying or demanding he see everything. It's disappointing seeing him use such an obvious straw man.

When you hear this caller, you have to take into account what Ana might be hearing or taking too seriously from the fringe poking and prodding her and it can explain her actions a lot, whether you agree or disagree with them.

@paulhammond6978

Жыл бұрын

I guess, that is actually a fair point.

@furiousapplesack

Жыл бұрын

Well, yeah. But she should know better, she's been at this for a very long time, and TYT knows better than anyone that a massive portion of their viewcount is from hatewatchers.

@somniatic

Жыл бұрын

That tends to happen to Hasan as well and it drives me bananas when they give in to the troll. Don’t fall for the bait. Let them dance- focus on your work. Twitter is not RL

You can't please everyone, Sam. Don't stress.

It's really simple. Caller wanted you to fully cover the TYT story instead of mention in passing. Cover left wing grifts like you cover right wing tweets

Of progressive shows, TMR probably talk about trans issues the most often. I feel like Emma says something about trans rights every show. Callers like this are ridiculous. Get off of Twitter. That's the problem with so many people. You live on Twitter and you make these things bigger deals than they are. How much effing coverage do you want of TWEETS? It's absurd. It's a terrible form of communication, and yet, people are putting a microscope on it as if there is something deep there to decipher.

Something I don’t understand is on the left we always say that people can identity they way anyone wants to. Anna literally asked to be called a woman not a birthing person, which I can see why that could be offensive because she is not just a baby making machine. Why are we attacking an ally to the trans community, Anna has fought for your rights and this is extremely discouraging to see.

Caller (and ppl who agree with the caller) needs to go outside and touch grass.

I think they're looking at certain poll results and taking those stances for whatever reason, while not exactly explaining why they're doing it. Cenk has changed to being against defund the police, where he said he was for it before. Now, Ana is doing the same against pregnant people. I'm not sure why since she never intends to be pregnant. It's bizarre to me!

@LMYS5697

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If she keeps pushing bad politics she may end up pregnant whether she wants to be or not. Fascist movements tend to see women the way terfs do, as a walking uterus. Their end goal is slightly different tho, use the breedmares to reproduce boy soldiers for the state. This is entirely the purpose of the BDM in NAZI Germany. Raise the girls to fulfill their primary purpose of being barefoot, naked, and pregnant in the kitchen.

@Ratchetonater

Жыл бұрын

They’re basically playing electoral politics. I’d they don’t see it as a winning issue, they’ll advise or somewhat speak out against it. They believe that if you have no power in government, you can’t get the changes you want. Many might disagree with that approach, but they see where they are coming from.

I'm detecting some strong terminally online para-social activity here and it's annoying AF.

The reality is, no matter how much you do, it’s never enough. I’ve been told by people on KZread and Twitter that if I’m not willing to put myself literally in harms way for them, I’m not really an ally. Doesn’t matter how much I call people out, or try to change people’s minds. If I’m not willing to throw myself in front of a bullet, I’m not an ally. Just today I saw Vi La Bianca (formerly of Talk Heathen) say that we shouldn’t say anything positive about someone changing their mind and being accepting of Trans people because it took them too long to do it. I guess they had had trans people in their life for 9 years and it took them that long to deconstruct their beliefs. Apparently some trans people don’t really want people to change their mind unless it happens fast enough. There is a lot of self destructive behavior within that community that is NOT helping the cause.

WHY DON"T YOU DEVOTE YOUR ENTIRE SHOW TO THE LEFT CANNIBALIZING ITSELF AND MY PET ISSUES!!!!!!!WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank goodness you hung up ! That guy is insane