Captains checklist 1. 4' waves breaking, check. 2. Surfers seaward riding waves, check. 3. Full sails, check. 4. No anchorage allowed area, check. 5. Charts depicting shallow reefs, check. 6. Full steam ahead, check.

@davidbrayshaw3529

3 ай бұрын

You forgot "Full compliment of passengers for which I am solely responsible".

@frederickmfarias3109

3 ай бұрын

Charts depicting shallow waters.

@testtube9423

3 ай бұрын

I live right there in that literally is the scene. You nailed it.

@nightwaves3203

3 ай бұрын

@@davidbrayshaw3529 Yah thought about that too and crown of thorns directly ahead ramming speed but I like to limit myself to 4 lines.

@jasemnz

3 ай бұрын

Sails show offshore breeze to, so an amazing effort to fuck that up so badly.

I used to live there. That water is shallow for a good way out. There was no reason for that ship to have attempted to get that close to that beach. Aside from being too shallow, it was also unsafe due to the number of people that tend to be in the water there. Operator error is an understatement.

@heaven-is-real

3 ай бұрын

how could they be that stupid

@snowgorilla9789

3 ай бұрын

​@@heaven-is-realmy bet say owner skipper ( Concordia) ring a bell, trying to impress someone in a thong

@anitajerkin

3 ай бұрын

But but, how else could they be showing off to the folks on the shore at Waikiki?

@blueabattoir

3 ай бұрын

anitajerkin It was just to get the precious selfies.

What a senseless loss of a beautiful yacht.

@cwired9407

3 ай бұрын

And the locals are still cleaning up the pieces…

note to self - don't go surfing in a yacht.

@TAZAR_II

3 ай бұрын

Go for a sail but find yourself surfing.

@virtual2152

3 ай бұрын

actually, not good surfing technique, either.

Absolutely, operator error is an understatement. There was an off shore breeze, so she was steered into the reef amongst the swimmers. What a waste.

That wasn’t operator error, that was nothing but stupidity! Trying to sail between surfers and the beach? Into breaking waves?

It's a hint when you're boating inside the line of people surfing.

Why they didn't kedge it off the reef before it was destroyed is bizarre. I love sailing and this just brakes my heart. Whoever was at the helm or was the officer of the watch needs to be held accountable. I mean the idiots were still at full sail and didn't even attempt to reduce sail as it hit the reef...smh

@chuckaddison5134

3 ай бұрын

I doubt that 10% of people driving sailboats today have ever heard of Kedging, much less how to go about it.

@emspera

3 ай бұрын

@@chuckaddison5134 agree, should have dropped the anchor 200 yards before!

@ottifantiwaalkes9289

3 ай бұрын

Dlnr is incompetent.

@davidbrayshaw3529

3 ай бұрын

Kedging off the main halyard and they might have stood half a chance. They had a Jet ski sitting there that they could have run the anchor out on.

@ottifantiwaalkes9289

3 ай бұрын

@@davidbrayshaw3529 two masts is great for keeping it heeled while dragging back out to sea..

Wow what incompetence 😮

@logohigh1

3 ай бұрын

Or insurance job

Whoa! Such a gorgeous sailing vessel. Operator error for damn sure. 😳

@jeanettenorman7052

3 ай бұрын

Oh boy - what a fool who was in command.

I crewed on this vessel in 1990-91 when it was named JADA II. I had a 50 ton auxiliary sail master license at the time, and applied as skipper, but owner Phil Weal said I looked too young to be a captain in his operation. He hired a friend who had a little bit of gray around the edges. (Sadly gray hair may instill reassurance amounng passengers, but didn't help those poor souls aboard TITANIC). In 1999 I hired the sons the owner of CRITERION at the time to crew with me in Chignik Lagoon Alaska operating the salmon tender ALEUTIAN VENTURE. One of the brothers I had earlier hired to clean the bottom of my 60' Ketch NESIKA at Keehi Marine Center. I sailed off Diamond Head in February 2013 on CRITERION and it was a great sailing yawl. We were making 9 knots under sail in 10' seas. I last sailed on her in at the Friday night races in early 2017 I think. So sad to see this beautiful Alden destroyed, but at least no one was seriously injured (other than the pride of whoever was at the helm).

@brettmiller8306

3 ай бұрын

Damn, I thought it looked like an Alden, that's really sad. Years ago I used to sail on Maitai off of Waikiki, so I'm somewhat familiar with the waters; blows my mind how this boat ended up where it did.

@PaulMcEvoyGuitars

3 ай бұрын

is that 90'? It looks like 70 maybe.

The dlnr is known to wait until an accident turns into a disaster. Things like this happen every year several times in hawaiian waters. Skippers error to ground and dlnr late respond makes it a disaster. Within a very short time and i mean an hour or so, emergency respond has to be ready for a situation like this. Where is the hawaii team? Why does the dlnr not respond asap? When a boat grounds it is most likely in water close to it's draft. Meaning at the next flood tide the boat will be lifted by the tide several feet. That could be starting an hour later or 6 hours later. However this is the crucial time action has to be taken. After the water starts to rise the boat will be washed further into shallow water by the waves pushing on the side of the boat. Every wave that passes will lift push and drop boat further and further inwards into shallower water. if not held in place or towed out into deeper water when the time is crucial boat ends up in to shallow of water to still be dragged out into deeper water. Again. Skippers fault for grounding and late dlnr response turned this boat into a wreck.

@christianfournier6862

3 ай бұрын

@ottifantiwaa|ke59289 = Sad about Criterion. To pursue upon your remark : "[...] most likely [...] at the next flood tide the boat will be lifted by the tide several feet. [...] After the water starts to rise the boat will be washed further into shallow water". My query is : Would it have been possible to lower the tender (e.g. a rubber dinghy) and drop seaward two anchors (on cables) as far as could be? While waiting for DLNR assistance, and if water was actually rising, it would maybe have been possible to haul the vessel away from the shore by winching lines with bump knots on the anchor cables; and if this could not free the vessel, at least it would have set her bow to the waves, lessening the risk of hull dislocation. But I don't know what were the circumstances and if self-hauling was possible.

@ottifantiwaalkes9289

3 ай бұрын

@@christianfournier6862 excactly as I wrote. If boat is not towed out to sea or held in place by anchors and than winched in towards anchors and open water the boat gets lifted and dropped by each passing wave lifting the boat into shallower water. The more and bigger the waves are as well as wind is determining the speed that happens. He had offshore winds but waves were going towards shallower water. The water has a much greater force on the grounded boat than the wind. As boat gets towed by another vessel out to sea the boat has the nose or bow towards the waves. Same goes for pulling the boat of with own anchor winch. The anchors of course should be set acordingly since waves might be not parrarel to shore or reef. The DLNR should know this and take action accordingly. I'm a search and rescue diver. I think skipper kept sails up hoping boat keeps heeling and so having less draft. I have rescued grounded boats by setting anchors and hoisting sails to induce heel to free keel from reef. But not easy if at all possible with a fullkeel heavy and loaded with passengers boat. With good timing of the incoming waves and rising tide a boat can be set free little by little. Worst is if boat gets stuck at high tide. Even worse is if daily tides lower from there on. And rocks and reef will distroy many boats. I have saved boats of of sandbars with zero damage even if it was there for 2 weeks cause of decreasing tides.

@seandelaney1700

3 ай бұрын

This is my thinking anytime I see these minor wrecks ignored until they become complete wrecks...along with damaging the reef.

There are some countries that if you do not have insurance for salvage will not let you in on a yacht. I think this is a very good thing.

I have personally seen 2 smaller sloops do a similar thing and end up on the beach. I am amazed to see such a large ship like that could be piloted so poorly as that and end up completely destroyed

i would boldly suggest that on the sailing school exam they should ask about a ship's required draft and what a depth gauge is. Throw in whats a chart and what do the colours mean for a bonus.

@RiverWoods111

3 ай бұрын

Unless the vessel is being operated commercially, there is no licensing board or requirements. This SV looks like it is probably big enough to require any captain that is hired to be licensed, but if it is personally operated I am not sure. The rules are different.

@AquaMarine1000

3 ай бұрын

​@RiverWoods111 Correct me if I am wrong. A vessel that size private or commercial is required to have a ships master with a rating for that type of vessel.

@davidbrayshaw3529

3 ай бұрын

@@AquaMarine1000 A quick Google search suggests that in US waters anything over 80' requires formal qualifications, commercial or otherwise.

@AquaMarine1000

3 ай бұрын

@davidbrayshaw3529 Thanks. In Australia, forty nine foot is the limit for a recreational boat licence. Cheers 'S

@davidbrayshaw3529

3 ай бұрын

@@AquaMarine1000 Are you sure? I didn't think we had a limit for recreational vessels in Australia, only commercial.

Several things to say here. 1: It’s your home waters. How does a tour boat operator not have a chart of where his captains can and cannot take the boat? As a captain, how do you not know your home waters like the back of your hand? 2: It appears there was a urinating contest between the powers that be and the operator as to who was responsible for dealing with the grounded boat. The Coast Guard should have called a Sea Tow company, I’m sure they weren’t very far away, put a line on that boat and gotten it off the reef and into a marina saving a massive clean up operation. Sent the tow bill to the operator who can argue it later with his insurance company. Instead, the public is left with this debris washing ashore for quite some time. If anyone from that area has info on why the boat wasn’t towed off the reef, let me know. I’d be interested to hear it. Heck, I might even learn something.

The operator wanted to get close to the shore so that he could wave to people. An Italian cruise ship captain ship did the same thing a few years ago.

@rykehuss3435

3 ай бұрын

That italian captain was doing a maneuver that everyone else does too (safely), its just that he lost positional awareness

He cut towards Diamond Head way too early and should’ve been outside of the break & the surfers. There’s a break out there called “Threes” because a wave can break 3 times if conditions are right.

@sailtradition-1928

3 ай бұрын

oh, it was on the way out!?... dang. thats a bad move

@sailtradition-1928

3 ай бұрын

that make sense- dude... that makes me kinda angry. Ive warned about that too many times

Chart education is a must. Those I learned told me how to read the water around you, look at a chart and think first. I am the first to say I am not a sailor but I can keep out of trouble and back a trailer.

@wendygerrish4964

3 ай бұрын

Tides.

@roscoejones4515

3 ай бұрын

Charts are great unless you're focused on a chart while your helmsman is steering you between the shore and a lineup of surfers.

@brettmiller8306

3 ай бұрын

Having sailed off of Waikiki many times, I don't think a chart had anything to do with this, any more than reading a road map incorrectly would cause you to drive onto someone's lawn. It is extremely obvious that the reef extends at least a couple hundred yards offshore with breaking waves and surfers. The helmsman must have not been paying attention.

Likely scenario: 1) having sailed that same area just a few yards east of the Ala Wai small boat harbor channel entrance, many make the left turn to port, heading towards Diamondhead. Few make this turn before the outer most red buoy channel marker. This sailboat probably did this short cut. 2) that’s not a bad move, but puts your vessel closer to the reefs where the surfer frolic. The mizzen sail maybe sheeted in to tight? Making the boats steering to starboard difficult because of sail balance between the 3 sails? 3) That vessel is a full keeler. I don’t have much experience with such a small rudder that the vessel has got. I suppose steering on the vessel became sluggish & drifted, it has, towards port into the shallows where the surfers catch the waves. This general area is called the Ala Moana bows surf spot.

Rank incompetence - doesn’t matter who was helm - skipper - this is on you.

Omg, what a disaster. The passengers must have been terrified.

@johnrhodes5914

3 ай бұрын

Why would they be terrified???? There were people swimming all around the boat. What would there be to be afraid of?????

@AthelstanEngland

3 ай бұрын

@@johnrhodes5914 hundreds of feet from shore, in normal clothes, probably had a few drinks, possibly being ripped apart by the reef, being hit by the yacht itself, perhaps not being able to swim ... how about that for a start?

Seems like this was preventable…

@malekodesouza7255

3 ай бұрын

Ya think? 😉

what the hell were they doing that close to shore?

@kurthenze2900

3 ай бұрын

@@dobbo7690 That's what came too my mind Or Maui Wowie

@PhilbyFavourites

3 ай бұрын

The standard one is “let’s show the poor people on the beach how wonderful we are…”

Skipper!!! What do you want Gilligan? Skipper, I think we're in trouble.

I live in Honolulu. I saw the wreck. What a mess!

The trick I use is to stay on the ocean side of the guys on surfboards!

They could have got airbags on that thing and floated It Off The Reef Within a few hours. I will agree with operator error you never get that close to shore with that much sail and that many people on the boat

@MrDavfit

3 ай бұрын

guess they don't have those in Hawaii!

@chuckaddison5134

3 ай бұрын

They didn't even need airbags. There is a way to do it without them.

@davidbrayshaw3529

3 ай бұрын

kedge it off using an anchor fastened to the main halyard. He had a jet ski sitting there that could have run the anchor out and he might well have been able to pull it off with a winch.

@brettmiller8306

3 ай бұрын

@@davidbrayshaw3529My thoughts exactly, this was hard to watch.

@chrisgrill6302

3 ай бұрын

Well... not really. Airbags are good for lifting submerged vessels but it's really hard to attach them low enough on the boat so that you can raise the gunwhales just above the surface and start pumping. This boat was well up in the air and being beaten back and forth by waves so attaching bags to it anywhere useful would be effectively impossible. But as another person said pulling it off by the halyards might work - at least if there weren't already coral heads sticking through the hull by the time someone arrived.

Makes my heart ache

We Cruise there all the time. They literally must have allowed themselves to be right up on the break with the Surfers. Notice the amount of life preservers that the passengers are wearing as well. This guy should never be able to be on the water again.

No one injured and the yacht will be replaced I would think that would apply to the captain/skipper as well.

@joesprague1464

3 ай бұрын

Easy come,easy go.

The teeth to that law is taking boats away...... How about criminal charges. It's negligence to yacht without 1mil clean up coverage. Pure and simple.

@obsidianjane4413

3 ай бұрын

Which accomplishes the same thing of taking boating away from more people because the higher the coverage requirements the higher insurance costs.

Why was it under full sail even after running aground?

Criterion was only about 68' LOA. Bad day for the Skipper. It'll be the end on an era.

@jean-pierredeclemy7032

3 ай бұрын

It looks similar to the old Ocean Youth club sailing vessels in the UK

Captains interview: "So it says you like spam sandwiches" 'Yep" "Congratulations on becoming the new captain"

@dancarter482

3 ай бұрын

Probably stuffs them in without chewing - always chokes and doesn't know why.

@johnmartlew5897

3 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t blame the owners as poor interviewing. The skipper’s CV could have been clean and references checked. What happened in the skippers mind between cast off and grounding is unknown.

@echtogammut

3 ай бұрын

It could also be a skipper who was being pressured by the passengers and owner for them to have a good time and pushed in closer than he knew he should have. Running that kind of operation means you have to be able to say no to your boss and clients.@@johnmartlew5897

We seem to have an ever increasing level of professional incompetence and recklessness on land, sea and in the air these days.

@marysaltlife1427

3 ай бұрын

I think it is all the experience we are losing as the baby boomers are now retiring from these fields. Scary stuff.

Did you cover the ore carrier Stellar Banner sinking?

Some comments here suggest that only professional mariners could avoid such incidents. Given how many pleasure boats are maneuvering around and inside the reefs of tropical islands worldwide, and how rarely things like this happen, that is obviously not the case. Using charts, being careful near reefs or the beach and so on is a matter of course even for pleasure sailors who have any kind of license or at least some common sense.

Bummer that!!…. You’d think the captain would now where the shallow reefs where ffs🙄🤔

Every time there’s high winds there’s a fresh boat aground in the lagoon between sand island and the airport, usually about every two-three months. I can go outside right now and take a picture of about 6-7, one has been there almost a year now, a nice ketch that could’ve been saved but just sat getting battered until the masts broke

oops. rich people and charter companies have yachts. regulation needs to be in place so they pay for damages and cleanup, amazed it isn't already in place. everywhere actually.

@dough9512

3 ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY!!!

It doesn't seem like a salvage operation. It looks more like just rounding up the pieces and hauling them to the trash.

@dancarter482

3 ай бұрын

Sunday morning beach clean.

@willythemailboy2

3 ай бұрын

Cleaning up the debris is still considered "salvage". It doesn't imply the boat being salvaged is every going to be more than scrap. For instance that ship in the Red Sea that sank due to missile hits will also be called a salvage operation, although the ship will likely have to be cut up in place.

crazy negligence

Oh my, that went over so easily. Land is feeling pretty good at the moment.

@davidbrayshaw3529

3 ай бұрын

He was on land! It didn't feel too good to him, I bet.

A speedy executed towing of the ship would have saved it from gettin mangled on the reef and would Have been mutch than cleaning up and removing all that debree after it was ripped apart ,long keeled sailing vessel( like this look like to be) can actually handle hard grounding without gettin there keel ripped of . Compared to a short /fin keeled wessel that often lose the keel imiditly when running ground / hitting stuff or get mayor "keel plank "keel bolt damage ,and folowing leaking. If the mast /sail boom is weighed down the keel lifts up and the wessel can be pulled out to deeper water . When you see the pictures off it laying abandoned its masts is actually quite plum /upright ,to me this indicates its not filled with water and not laying on it side on the reef . Sutch a waste anyway...

The Captain (and crew ?) Ignored all the warnings (breaking waves, surfers nearby, change in colour of the water, etc) and still tried to sail through the area. This is not an accident. Either the captain is brain dead stupid, or he was drunk / stoned out of his mind, or this he did this on purpose. If I was the insurer, I would definitely not pay out a cent for this "accident".

natural selection is AWESOME

What an absolute shame! Being a sailor myself I can see how this happened but it's sad to see such a nice boat destroyed

This indicates such a colossal level of incompetence that one has to suspect insurance fraud.

@chad1755

3 ай бұрын

Except that insurance isn't covering it apparently... so I guess they lose, haha

Its a nice place for ordinary people to enjoy a bit of luxury. Today, they got a free show too. Nice boat. I would have thought a boat like that would be captained by a pro.

Sad to see a lovely yacht flounder and break up. 😞👎🙏🇦🇺🦘

What the heck is with all of the accidents in Hawaii over the last year or so? It's crazy.😮😮

Once they saw this was going all wrong, why didn't the crew hand out life preservers? Were they waiting for someone to drown first?

I sailed on this sailboat back in 2017 and experienced a sail that shredded under sail. We swapped out the sail and kept going. She was a fine vessel RIP.

Wow we had same view in Marina Rubicon

A sad thing to see. A fine boat lost.

Omg, upon 2nd look- sheet in that head sail ! See how lose that jib/headsail is? That mizzen is pretty fluffed up, putting pressure to steer to port. Because, likely they took short cut + large vessels take longer to respond, any crew has to react fast to compensate for slower response of larger vessel.

Redunkulous, that’s a beach for surfing and swimming!

There is a couple of videos out there featuring yachts surfing out of control into Ala Moana on large waves with guests on board. One of them looks like this boat.

A beautiful Yacht ripped a part. What a sad sad Story! and having put All those Passengers at Risk!

As a licensed charter boat skipper myself, what the hell was that skipper thinking. No more jobs on the water for him unless perhaps leading a kayak tour. Unbelievable stupidity!

How many of these will occur until `Captains` have to have qualifications? Here in the UK we do require skippers to be competent, and for boats to have insurance for at least third party liability... This crew was utterly knob-like, too close to shore and reefs, and broadside on to waves. They should ALL be arrested and charged..!

That lovely sailboat was murdered by idiots.

Hawaii should tighten the criteria specific to the islands for crew and captains who want to sail/ cruise around the islands.

Some here may argue...A pleasure yacht's mandatory contribution to sea safety and environmental care should rise exponentially on its value. If those who can afford it don't make a valued contribution to ocean preservation, then being out on the water is parasitical to others. It may also encourage them to take more care in yacht staff recruitment.

Hawaii seems to be becoming somewhat accident prone of late.

Why didn't they pull her off the reef with another boat or tug is beyond me. They just left her there overnight to be destroyed. Such a shame.

Hard to believe a captain capable of operating this vessel makes such a rookie mistake.

At one point it looked as if it could be saved but no attempts was made

I just don't know what to say!! But, it was nice to see the condo tower where I lived in the background, and my beach.

eSysman: Thank You for knowing there is no "L" in the word "Founder"!

@Blaidd7542

3 ай бұрын

Flounder is also a word that could apply to this situation.

Absolutely heartbreaking

I would have to say this seems suspicious.

The key is in the owner's comment. Not it was the captain's mistake but operator error as if you were talking about any piece of equipment. Anyone in charge of a vessel at sea needs to be sober, reliable and competent.

"You need a captain for your sailboat today? I'm your man." "Of course I know how to sail, just watch me."

What a beautiful sailboat destroyed

Tack Jibe Hard-a-lee hold my beer

So sad!

Wow !!

What a shame looked like a nice vessel. That captain probably needs a different line of work now.

What a pity such a smart yacht , i don’t understand what the captain was thinking going in such shallow water with known reefs , he must have had the same mindset as the costa concordia captain

I think the back stop should be the country the boat is registered With. As they should be responsible for recovery and getting cost back from an insurer or owner. If they don’t start recovery with in a set time massive fines .

Was it insured and for how much......?.🤔 Just wondering......

GREAT.

WHy would such a large vessel attempt sailing there, in the midst of swimmers etc?

Wow, a NON click bait title . it really was "ripped apart " . 👍

Someone was drunk or stupid. 🇦🇺 😊

@beachbum77979

3 ай бұрын

In this case I think it took a combination. Drunk, stupid and blind.

If they paid for an insurance, how can to insurance company just run away from the bill? I think that insurance must pay up and then charge the owner / operator for the cost. In my country they wouldn't get away and leave the bill to others.

@willythemailboy2

3 ай бұрын

It's more that there's a cap on most insurance policies. In this case the insurance policy probably covers the replacement cost of the boat, while the cost of cleanup will be considerably more expensive than that. The insurance company is only liable for the maximum value listed in the policy. Anything beyond that the state will have to recover from the owner themselves. That's part of the reason the state is calling for additional insurance on such boats, to require them to be insured for the cost of a likely cleanup as well as just the value of the boat.

Standards of Training, Certification, and Watchkeeping: Yes

In Beaulieu yacht trashing into the mud sheet in lean over and sail off

WHY??? couldnt they see the island

Heavy

I wouldn’t blame the owners as poor interviewers. Hired crews more often come from agencies. My cousin crewed out of one for some of the big famous yachts. The skipper’s CV could have been clean and references checked. What happened in the skippers mind between cast off and grounding is unknown. Whatever it was, it wasn’t good. Crying shame that boat was lost. No one hurt though.

Gosh... They sailed close-hauled onto the reef. The skipper must have been incapacitated and nobody else knew how to sail. They could have dumped the sails out (sheeting out, and allow the sails to flog), allowing the bow to swing down-wind and away from the rocks.

Hard to imagine or catalog all the information this captain did not take aboard prior to setting sail, and still while underway... with paying customers! Am at a loss. This is just absurd.

It doesn't seem that any insurance covers grounding.

A shame, that's for sure and I'm no salvage operator, but I'd have liked to see more of the attempts at salvage. I would think/hope that putting a weight on the mast to tip the boat on it's side, lifting the keel, and then trying to tow it off would have been the way to go.

that's why you only go exploring in sketchy areas at LOW tide!

That yacht could have been saved all it needed was lines from top of mast all hatches closed and lines from the bow pull the lines from the mast so she heals right over then pull from the front at the same time would have been worth a shot with help from other boats or even jet skis

That is Waikiki Beach in the winter. Small surf, definitely not 4', more like flat. Put up more sail, take a halyard and run it out to a jet ski, keep the wind on the beam and tip it on it's side and let it blow its self offshore. Kedging.. NO. It has to be on its side. Like the boat at H-bay.. people that should know, don't.