Franz Stigler's commanding officer had told him and his pilots that if he were to ever hear of them shooting at a pilot in a parachute he would kill them himself. When Franz came upon the wounded B-17 he needed just one more shoot down to get the Knights Cross (hence the lyrics "Saying goodbye to the cross he deserved" line), but seeing the plane in the condition it was in and the crew in bad shape he viewed this as being no different than a helpless pilot in a parachute and would not fire. Instead he tried to get them to land and when they refused he decided to escort the B-17 over the coast preventing the AA guns from firing on them.

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

that's great history right there.

@bernardtuinenburg8746

Жыл бұрын

I had the honor to meet both Charly Brown and Franz Stigler in 1993 and I let Franz know that he was a true hero to me

@dennisburkle4276

Жыл бұрын

@@JammersMetalMischief Franz wrote a book about that "A Higher call" is the name of it and i would totaly recomment to read it

"Fictitious license?" Sabaton always researches about the events they sing about, before writing their songs. There is nothing "fictitious" about any song they sing.

@donovanwaters9403

2 жыл бұрын

There song Camouflage is somewhat fictitious although based on real war

@pollin522

2 жыл бұрын

@@donovanwaters9403 camouflage is a bonus track from the Last Stand album, and is a cover of the Stan Ridgeway song by the same name.

@samnemeth-smyth6109

2 жыл бұрын

I think he's referring to the animation as no one can perfectly recreate the actual events of that day

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

when i noted that i hadn't yet realized this was about one true instance-there are many stories of enemies honorably assisting each other, or at least taking pity on each other, and it was not yet evident to me that this was not just a genericized example of that. i never look into a song or band before listening so that whatever reaction i have-appropriate, accurate, insightful, or none of the above-is genuine

@globus9710

Жыл бұрын

Lot of things they sing about are more of a myth. Like Battle of Wizna where exactly 18 germans were killed and what stop them for 3 days was actually a traffic jam

This one always gets me. My first reaction was very much like yours. If you want one that hits you right in the gut try the official Sabaton video for The Christmas Truce. One of the coolest war stories ever and oh boy did Sabaton do it justice. Cheers!

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

that one is on the way!

"I don't think this kind of thing is as common as this guy is trying to make it." It's the fact that occurrences like this are so UNCOMMON, that Sabaton thinks it deserves more recognition.

@grimm516

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree with your point kinda, I would sat it was more common that pilots in ww1&2 spared enemy pilots from their own guns, but in this case it's probably the only situation where a Luftwaffe pilots activity helped an enemy by escorting them sparing the b-17 from the AAguns of the Atlantic wall

@JammersMetalMischief

Жыл бұрын

i was merely noting that in media, books, movies, etc, i've seen a LOT of scenes depicting such honorable chivalry-i was jsut sayin' it wasn't common.

thank you for your comments

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

I'm terribly sorry, I only just realized who you were! your father displayed immense courage and honor and i am humbled to have heard his story

@jovitatheren-stigler304

2 жыл бұрын

@@JammersMetalMischief We appreciate all the kind comments, thank yiou

Franz Stigler said this regarding Canadians calling him a nazi and Germans calling him a traitor after they found out what exactly happened in 1943, "They will never understand"......

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

some people won't , completely true. A true soldier, whether American dogface or Deutche Soldat, must always stay true to their conscience.

The drummer for Sabaton Hannes Van Dahl his wife sings in a band called Nightwish from Finland you should check out a song of there’s called Ghost Love Score live at Wacken 2013. But watch out for the Nightwish Army lol

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

that very song is on the schedule! I've heard such warning before about other groups :-) largely, the fans have been pretty nice!

6:25 the line "he risked his live two times that day" was for the German Pilot because he flyed beside the B-17 so the B17 wasnt shot by German Anit Aircraft Fire, but that could lead to getting shot by, by the B-17 Crew and also if someone Reported him he would be sentenced as Deserter and be killed by the Nazis...

@JammersMetalMischief

Жыл бұрын

ah yes, that clarification was brought to me, but thank you! and thanks for watching!

If you like "oooh ooho" you need to check Sabaton - Swedish Pagans

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

i will!!!

Another reactor going down the sabaton rabbit hole. Welcome to a world of war history. You will probably learn more now than you have ever done in school. Recommedations: night witches (also done by yarnhub full animated) christmas truce (you need to see the official sabaton fist then you can Watch the yarnhub animated to get some more info. Bismark, en livstid i krig (live from gothenburg, it’s in swedish so enable captions)

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! everything but bismark has either been released (die nachthexen) or has been produced and is awaiting it's turn at release. so bismark goes on the list!

I've been checking out a bunch of Sabaton reactions, especially to this one because it is such a powerful production (and story). Your's is one of the best - mostly because you didn't quite know what to expect, slowly realized its awesomeness, didn't see the twist coming but reacted in a way so as I was looking forward to your coming reaction :) Great stuff, will check future Sabaton reactions here for sure. As an American I recommend you check out "Lost battalion", "Screaming eagles" and "Primo Victoria". As a history buff check out "Last stand", "40:1", "Rorkes drift", "The Attack of the Dead Men", "Uprising", "Aces in excile"... hell, do 'em all!

@JammersMetalMischief

Жыл бұрын

thanks very much! more sabaton is *always* coming, im trying to do one a week. thanks very much for the recs!

Others sabaton songs to react: BISMARCK, the BEST Song, the best clip of SABATON group ! : kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYqLp8RmcdeeqcY.html - "Fields of Verdun" (official clip, very powerful, deep voice): kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoRsqY-Fp7q0npM.html - The Red Baron, the most famous ace of all time. No clip but a fan made a video with the music and a movie which is about the same story : kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6NllqpvltTUppc.html -"Sparta !" Here, there is no clip, but a Fanmade with the movie 300 did the job: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qY2l2NaHmseyeLg.html - "Shiroyama", the last stand of the Samurai. Very emmotiannal but here, there is no clip too. A fan made a very accurate video with the movie "the last samurai": kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2FtwbaOoLyuksY.html - "Rise of Evil", Hitler's rise to power: Again, no clip but a fan use somes extract from the movie "Rise of Evil" on the same event, so it's very very accurate to take his music vidéo: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6VllJKsesjPo7w.html It's a very good selection with very good video clips because I LOVE that Group !

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

wow! thanks for watching and all the great recs! im actually making bismarck TODAY, and the rest will go on the schedule.

Woho thing! It wakes your feelings of belonging in somekind of brotherhood or beeing with likeminded people. That share your point of view in certain things.

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

it does my man, it really does.

Nice reaction, but I think you're missing half the story points when you stop the video mid-sentence and explain what you think is going on, also not backing up before you start again. E.g. the line "Risked his life, two times that day" was not about the bombing runs, but the fact that 1) Stigler escorted the enemy (risk of being reported for treason) and 2) they passed the German coastal air defense line (and he could have been shot down himself), before he saluted and left the B-17 when they were safe. Sabaton have their own History channel here on KZread as well, where they explain each song and the history of the events they portray further. All Sabaton songs are based on actual historical events, nothing is made up. You should react to "Bismarck" and "En livstid i krig" (a lifetime of war) in Swedish, Live from Gothenburg and "Christmas Truce". Make sure you always have captions on and watch the entire videos. Greetings from Sweden! (Btw, Sabaton never block reactors!) 🤘😎🤘

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

thanks very much for watching. yes, i've been known to make mistakes, but that's how you know it's genuine. a scripted "reaction" (like i see in many movie reacters) would be perfect and make accurate predictions. Bismarck is being produced TODAY, actually, and En Livstig i Krig is just waiting it's turn on release. if you watch it, forgive me for my mistakes THERE as well! Christmas truce is on the schedule. as a side note, sabaton has never *blocked* me, but they do claim any ad revenue from the videos. so while i get immense joy from making sabaton videos, and get lots of views, that's about it.

You should check out the book "A Higher Call" it tells the story this song is about.

You HAVE to react to ''En livstid i krig live from gothenburg'' by Sabaton WITH captions ON! it's their best song!

@JammersMetalMischief

Жыл бұрын

i have! it's coming 15 september!

No bullet fly is an Familie story . You see to the end of the Animatet Video a young Man listen to Sabatons No Bulet Fly . This Young nMan is Franz Stickler s Grand Son

@JammersMetalMischief

Жыл бұрын

i found out some really interesting things about this later

Thank you very much for your reaction ! If i may recommand you "To Hell And Back" (Official Music Video) about Audie Murphy : one of the most decorated soliders of WW2, "Smocking Snakes" and "40:1" I would gladly recommand other songs but others bellow or above has already recommand them ^^ Bye ~

@JammersMetalMischief

Жыл бұрын

thanks very much for watching! 40:1 is coming (not soon, but coming)

So I do like watching reactions to sabiton songs. I really believe this story needs to be remembered - shared a to that end the book a higher call is the full story that this song Oh and the sabiton history channel has a more in-depth explanation Anyway safe travels

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

thanks very much for being here! more sabaton is always coming.

If you love songs with "woa woa Oh oh" you should listen to Swedish Pagans

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

do you have a specific song or two? i'll give it a go!

@donovanwaters9403

2 жыл бұрын

@@JammersMetalMischief swedish pagans by Sabaton

I dont beleive they are saying any of this was common, thats why they made a song about one of the rare events

@JammersMetalMischief

Жыл бұрын

well sabaton isn't, but i've consumed a lot of media over the years that portrays such situations quite frequently.

Well there is a reason the military kept this a secret for like 40 years, they sure did not want this to be common.

Love it ... "5 full Ronnie's" ... don't get much more metal than Ronnie..

@JammersMetalMischief

2 жыл бұрын

no it doesn't baby!

Not sure if you knew before you started the video, that this was a true story. So it looks a bit...bad, when you make jokes about their situation. This actually happened. Not really a laughing matter, there's no jokes anywhere in the story. Not sure if you continued to make light of the fate and the war, because I stopped watching before the (great) song even started. Kinda got my impression that this channel aint taking serious matters...serious. But at least you managed to stay serious with the usual plug "dont forget to subscribe, and there's also patreon, and everything else that can make me money by doing no original content myself" ..sigh.. Well, best of luck to ya bud. Do remember that these people were at least indirectly responsible for the life you're having today, so again, you still find War and death a joking matter? Just ask yourself, I dont care for the answer. I already heard enough.

@JammersMetalMischief

Жыл бұрын

What are you even talking about? You concerned me so i went back to the video, which was recorded months ago-and there's no aspect of making fun of anything. My exclamation of "Charlie Brown!"? This one story is true, yes, but a lot of media try to make it out like every battle had these situations. You're the only person of about 50 that said anything like that, who remotely saw that in the video. Some said how inaccurate they thought i was, but no one but YOU got the impression you did. If you'd bothered putting away your ire, and self importance, you'd have seen that i acknowledged all that and gave both pilots their due. You'd have seen i was a soldier and understood. You didn't know i was myself a soldier. Soldiers make fun of anything and everything. Its understood. It's a given. It's what's done. Where's *your* DD214? If you'd had gotten over yourself and finished the video you'd have seen Joyita Theren-Stigler and my reaction to her praising Sabaton, and if you'd looked in any of the comments instead of stalking off like a fucking baby, you'd have seen that THEREN-STIGLER HERSELF COMMENTED AND THANKED ME FOR WHAT I SAID. So fuck off, be well, and don't fuckin come back.