Back when Homelander and Ryan were getting along 👀 kzread.info/dash/bejne/n2mNrdxmm5PPdcY.html

I think Ryan will be the Superman of this universe, no matter what happens. He will find the right path eventually.

@kakashihatake6052

Ай бұрын

There's star man

@aakashmishra6153

Ай бұрын

waiting in the sky

@SatoruGojothehonoured1

Ай бұрын

In the sky

@dylanrankin-df7ku

Ай бұрын

He'd like to come and meet us

@spdrdrip2887

Ай бұрын

he'd like to come and meet us

So there is actually a hope for an actual superman to exist in this universe

@Afanof1

Ай бұрын

Maybe just maybe

@readthiscomment6748

Ай бұрын

From what ive heard. Hes more down an anti hero path more than anything. Similar to butcher but less unhinged.

@Areaninetyone

Ай бұрын

He has no reason to be an anti hero lmao​@@readthiscomment6748

@destiny6080

Ай бұрын

@@readthiscomment6748 He will probably go back to his origin judging by this scene, so back to the ways of his mother, so close to superman

@Urkurrymuncher

Ай бұрын

i could see gim becoming like hancock ngl

Bro the parallel between Homelanders speech in season 3 and Ryans Speech now in season 4.

@Wes_Bradley-Taubner

Ай бұрын

“Don’t you dare stop rolling Roger” vs “No don’t go to commercial. Keep rolling, please” I was thinking the exact same thing. Just the way Homelander and Ryan requested to have them keep rolling shows such a difference

@dacyberman0929

Ай бұрын

Ryan can’t and won’t be like his father great character and glad you pointed that out never noticed it.

@garydorsey4243

Ай бұрын

​@@Wes_Bradley-Taubnerhomelanders was a demand, ryans was a request

@Afanof1

Ай бұрын

​@@garydorsey4243and he didn't have to ask

@dhrutikpatel1929

Ай бұрын

Ryan asks with respect, don't go to commercial,keep rolling please

This was Ryan's "Starlight lied to you just now" moment

@Deadlyvoltage3

Ай бұрын

Obviously

@TheFunnyGuy9000

Ай бұрын

“Homelander just lied to you just now”

@gj9157

Ай бұрын

"Don't cut to commercial" "Don't you dare stop rolling rodger"

@plasmabeamgames

Ай бұрын

​@@gj9157 I think I said 'Don't you dare stop rolling, Roger!' out loud when I first saw this scene.

@MrAwesomeHero1

Ай бұрын

@@Deadlyvoltage3 bro thought he cooked by stating the obvious "obviously". Dude most people knows its obvious, but regardless people still state the obvious.

Homelander's gonna have to change his name to Billy now 😂

@-black-noir858

Ай бұрын

You win today 😂

@TheOnlyTraitor347

Ай бұрын

Homelander probably would do it

@kalvin187douglas

Ай бұрын

I don’t think people will think Ryan referred to his biological father, Homelander as “Billy”

@yourlonelyman

Ай бұрын

Naah vought has already come up with excuses that "The teleprompter malfunctioned and all the guys are fired now"

@Jerome18921

Ай бұрын

@@yourlonelymanlol I saw the community post

Seeing Ryan do this gives me hope that he'll thankfully turn out more like his mother than his biological father.

@MikeJoe-jy5kp

Ай бұрын

Actual Superman man chances

@DakshSingh-rq1rh

Ай бұрын

Why should anyone be like there weak emotional human mother when they can be like there supe father with absolute power

@patrick6210

Ай бұрын

Bruh, don’t go dictator mode on us man😅

@kalvin187douglas

Ай бұрын

I actually always figured as much

@Skiller131

Ай бұрын

​@@DakshSingh-rq1rh😂😂😂

i love how puppets dont drop the act when ryan says stop

@gentblue

Ай бұрын

Muppet puppeteers literally do this in real life.

@toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917

Ай бұрын

The show must go on for them

@105Leon

Ай бұрын

GOATed comment

@Ddon98801

Ай бұрын

think about it, theres no need for them to even show themselves, they could just keep the puppet up

@shanez1215

25 күн бұрын

Puppet Maeve and Deep looking at eachother with confusion sends me

When homelander did something like this in season 3 he made a speech about himself and how he is the real hero but with ryan he makes a speech about the importance of family and how they are the real heroes. The parallels are incredible

@TheFunnyGuy9000

Ай бұрын

Fr he even acknowledged his mom and Billy Butcher

@ErosSetAblaze

Ай бұрын

And it's true. Families either make or break their offspring and are the foundation for a healthy society.

That's pretty sure that Ryan loves his mother more than anything and once ryan gets to know what homelander did to his mom, Ryan will surely go against homelander. And Ryan being the son of Becca also makes him a human which ultimately shatters the lab rat's dream to raise Ryan as something more than a human.

@makokx7063

Ай бұрын

Homelander's mother was also human.

@YurinanAcquiline

Ай бұрын

*"lab rat"* Ouch

@archi8679

Ай бұрын

@@makokx7063she didn’t raise him

@Drifter1989

Ай бұрын

@@makokx7063All supes are human. And we don’t know if Homelander’s bio mom was a supe or not. The homeless girl that Vought hired only carried the embryo meaning someone else’s egg was used.

@ItachiUchiha-qd9mi

Ай бұрын

​@@makokx7063 Surrogate mother to be precise.

Ashley: Go to commercial! Homelander: Don't you DARE stop rolling, Roger! Ashley: Go to commercial! Ryan: No, don't go to commerical. Keep rolling, please. Such a vast difference between the two and I'm glad to see it

@SokarVision

Ай бұрын

One is basically a threat, the other is a desperate but nice plead. Mark my words, ryan will be the superman of this universe

@omarelmaghraby2548

Ай бұрын

​@@SokarVision i sense that hes more of the invincible of this universe

@ShadowKamehameha32

Ай бұрын

@@omarelmaghraby2548 Invincible is the Superman of his universe too. Many assume that Omni-Man is the Superman allegory, but he isn't.

@Birthday888

29 күн бұрын

​@@ShadowKamehameha32 He's the Zod parallel/allegory really.

Butcher grimly slumped over the bar counter while that ridiculous tune plays on the TV is a hilarious contrast.

Ryan.... literally the only character on the show who doesn't need redemption.

@pawehebda2583

Ай бұрын

Hughie

@bruceelliot1503

Ай бұрын

Hughie, Mothers Milk, im sure there’s a few others

@user-sm1bi5ix6l

Ай бұрын

@@pawehebda2583 hughie needs therapy at this point.

@comicalcosmonaut959

Ай бұрын

@@bruceelliot1503Annie, Becca

@rimuru5108

Ай бұрын

Next episode...

2:35 How proud & happy Butcher looks at Ryan 🙏🥲

@dragula9397

Ай бұрын

Then Butcher turning to his side and telling off Kessler was the finishing touch.

@DonValedinhoJr1o9

Ай бұрын

@@dragula9397 Fr ☝️

@shivelyfilms

29 күн бұрын

​@@dragula9397 Kessler disappeared too, Butcher found a New Hope

the heartwarming asides, the fact that ryan hinted that homelander SAed his mother by referencing butcher on live tv is hilarious

@jamnnjelly3102

Ай бұрын

Him saying that doesn't necessarily imply that

@featuringdantefromthedevil9749

Ай бұрын

Yeah that didn’t really imply that, it’s entirely possible people would just infer Becca and Homelander had an affair

@someguy9496

Ай бұрын

@@featuringdantefromthedevil9749or that homelander divorced from her

@shishirdewdrops224

Ай бұрын

he knows he's an illegitimate child?

@StuckonStupid84

Ай бұрын

​@@shishirdewdrops224 To an extent he does.

Ryan's "don't go to commercial" is such a great parallel to Homelander's "I'm stronger speech", really highlights the differences between them and who was raised properly.

I think people are really gonna question homelander for what ryan said about his being mother married to another man that's not homelander

@r3trobananas33

Ай бұрын

I dont think the public knows homelanders normal name is john, and the pr team can just say his real name was billy

@Kahhru

Ай бұрын

Homelander can say he didn't know Becca was married when he impregnated her (aka Becca lied about it).

@StuckonStupid84

Ай бұрын

Its still gonna raise red flags. Regardless of when Homelander or Vought says, people are gonna be curious about why Ryan said what he said the way he said it.

@fightingmedialounge519

Ай бұрын

The other issue is billy butcher is known to the public.

@jaybrewer3990

Ай бұрын

​@@fightingmedialounge519 Which is why Ryan didn't use Billy's last name.

In a world full of sociopathic and psychopathic supes. Ryan will stand out as truest and purest definition of a superhero.

Some people can say the writing regarding ryan isnt consistent when in reality it is. Remember what Volgumbaum said to HL? That if he was raised by a family and not scientists he wouldve turned out better? Ryan is the scenario in which that did happen. HL is trying so hard to makw ryan be a copy of him when in reality he isnt. Yes the behavior is there but hes more like Becca than HL. Ryan knows what right and whats wrong but the series is showing us that Ryan knows when its time to be ruthless and when its time to be sympathetic. Hes going to bend. But he will never break

@gabrielandjavierpinales3689

Ай бұрын

Ryan will be what his father would never be and what his grandfather tried to be. A real hero, that's why he'll be better by being a selfless protector.

@CreationSGame01

Ай бұрын

Actually I find his writing very consistent. He’s becoming a teen so I don’t expect his behavior to be one sided.

@Gojira-ri6rj

Ай бұрын

ryan’s a trooper

@witisf1t

Ай бұрын

Andddd just like Mark and Debbie Grayson from Invincible.

I like to think, in-universe, at least one of the people for the puppet show, probably a writer, was like "Hey guys, I looked up what indoctrinate means. I don't know, but I think we might be doing that. Are we the baddies?" and that person was immediately made disappear; either fired, "promoted and relocated", or worse.

@Deadlyvoltage3

Ай бұрын

Nah people like that , in the real world atleast, aren’t that self aware

@jaybrewer3990

Ай бұрын

Lasered by HL in the woods under a full moon.

@wellingtonafonsodecarvalho9842

Ай бұрын

​@@Deadlyvoltage3 well there could be at least one time where someone was that self-aware in vought

@argentdawn

29 күн бұрын

@@Deadlyvoltage3 I mean, there are still people who don't realize Homelander and everything wrong with him is based on Trump, lol

@momentaryretrospect5967

28 күн бұрын

Knowing the meaning of words doesnt make bad people recognize their actions

Butchers eyes showing hope and appreciation for Ryan is straight up the best moment of the season for me 🥹

You’re not the real hero Homelander. Ryan is.

@TheFunnyGuy9000

Ай бұрын

Ryan is stronger is smarter Ryan is smarter he is better he is better

@jianth

Ай бұрын

​@@TheFunnyGuy9000Homelander is the only one,who possibly can.

@AbrarAsif-lb3du

Ай бұрын

Ryan is half human and half homelandarian . si i dont think he is physically strong than homelander

@deepfriedchocobo

Ай бұрын

​@@AbrarAsif-lb3duhomelander is half soldier boy and a random woman and he is definitely stronger than soldier boy

@tylerhartley5031

Ай бұрын

​@@AbrarAsif-lb3duHe's the first naturally born sup that didn't come from a compound V injection or from a test tube. And he's not even a hybrid, he is still human just like every other sup is. Still human. Compound V doesn't change the fact they are still human

“Don’t u dare stop rolling roger😈” “Don’t cut to commercial🥺”

A Train becoming Flash and Ryan is becoming Superboy of this universe 🤌👌

This is like 90s family movie when dad doesn't show up for the kid's sport event or Christmas.

I love how the parallelism between how Homelander demanded the team to keep rolling, threatening them if they did otherwise, while Ryan starts by asking them that they don't, and furthermore even saying "Please", Ryan wasn't demanding them he was asking from the bottom of his heart because he genuinely had something he thought people needed to hear

Ryan could never end up like Homelander, his mama taught him love and compassion way longer than he knew Homelander. He even asked Ashley to please let it not go to commercial, unlike his father

Ryan could start a new generation of superheroes who ACTUALLY DO the right thing.

Butcher: "THAT'S MY BOI!"

That actually hurt homelander

I think they are so right to show this. In today's times we see family members fighting over ideological differences and even Falling apart.

@onelovechild1307

Ай бұрын

It's a tv show

@Caes3r_

Ай бұрын

@@onelovechild1307 which adresses real problems

@akirajkr

Ай бұрын

@@onelovechild1307 Doesn't make the message any less important.

@cass7448

Ай бұрын

@@onelovechild1307 A TV show intentionally jammed full of real-world references and analogies.

@FeeshCTRL

Ай бұрын

​@@onelovechild1307Media is often a reflection of real life situations. Use critical thinking skills, please.

and his next speech will be about justice

2:22 Homelander visibly acts like he got punched, you can tell hearing Ryan say “she loved her husband Billy.” and not say some lie on TV that “She loved my dad.” was DEVASTATING to Homelander. Reminds me of when he said “Why don’t you get him to be your dad.”

I love how Ryan doing like when Homelander spoke his mind about Vought. You know. The I'm STRONGER scene? Unlike his biological father, however, Ryan had more peaceful approach rather than pulling LOUDER-mean-BETTER way.

I swear Ryan and Annie (Starlight) will have this competition of who has the most protruding jawline in the boys universe...

@dylanrankin-df7ku

Ай бұрын

The Final battle of season 5.

@kingazuldiablo777

Ай бұрын

You're terrible 😂😂😂😂

@Paunch

Ай бұрын

None of them could compare to Dream's jawline

@micallbeard923

Ай бұрын

@@Paunch jerma

@Snailman0

Ай бұрын

Seeing child actors going through puberty is wild. I totally understand why adults around me acted the way they did when they didn’t see me for a few years.

It's incredible how in a similar situation Ryan is acting more mature than Homelander.

@megnus3rs

Ай бұрын

Being raised in a relatively stable environment instead of being raised as a lab rat helps a ton

2:52 classic butcher

This aged like milk in a short time.

The boys having an actual Superman is something that I thought was impossible.

I almost cried at Butcher being proud of Ryan.

Homelander realizing there might just be a superman to his Lex Luthor

@ItsTheRemixaa

Ай бұрын

I would say a superman to his general zod

@rageinternet9391

Ай бұрын

​​​@@ItsTheRemixaa I was thinking of Ultraman to fit more into the justice league aspect

Ryan's light, shining deep inside, just resurfaced

At least Ryan said "please," unlike his father.

What if, to save Billy's life and defeats Homelander, Ryan gives him Compound V?

@sharif47

Ай бұрын

Well... Billy tried that himself and ended up with V-ed tumor that's now Kessler.

@dimasfajartaufiqismail1643

Ай бұрын

@@sharif47 Sorry, what I mean is the ones that gives permanent power

@baseupp12

Ай бұрын

​@@dimasfajartaufiqismail1643that's what Billy used actual V he has the talk with Hughie

@joshmas9264

Ай бұрын

​@dimasfajartaufiqismail1643 Yes they already showed he tried the permanent one and it seemingly didn't work and suped up his tumour instead

@FreebirthBoccara

Ай бұрын

He did get permanent v... the tumor is just his super power and he doesnt know it yet. The people that he keeps talking to that arent there is the tumor, an extention of his own mind, communicating with him.

Congratulations Ryan you are a real hero

Ryan used empowered hearing

@cabbiecarmvp145

Ай бұрын

Yeah, just like Homelander did during his “I’m better” speech, they both heard the film crew about to cut and told them not to, in very similar yet also different ways

There will be a star man waiting in the sky.

One of the best things this show did was make Billy an actual character and person.

@kairi4640

Ай бұрын

Yeah, they really humanized him.

The most satisfying scene in the whole show.

I stopped the vedio when Ryan said stop and now he is not commanding me to resume

Hope his aunt Rachel saw it

@harshbhatti8670

Ай бұрын

Does she even know about him

@sarasmith2009

Ай бұрын

I don't think she'd know he's related to Becca, but she has to know him in a distant way, since he's something of a child celebrity in-universe.

@carminecioffi9770

Ай бұрын

@@harshbhatti8670 For now

@edenramos9686

Ай бұрын

I don't think Ryan has an Aunt

@obsidianwarrior5580

Ай бұрын

​@@edenramos9686He does, she's in season 1

He’s going to be the Superman of the boys Universe and I’m here for it! Remember the Vought scientists said his power could be limitless and if that’s true he’d essentially be Superman Becca would be so proud

@basilplushie2534

26 күн бұрын

Did you watched the finale?

@QuEsT_X

26 күн бұрын

@@basilplushie2534 I’m so disappointed 😔

@basilplushie2534

26 күн бұрын

@@QuEsT_X I'm so excited

We are just few moments away to finally make homelander snap out

The bit with Butcher at the end is such an awesome moment.

I'm so proud of you Ryan 😢😊

Butcher is so proud

Am I the only one hoping they make Ryan an Invincible-esque kind of superhero?

Butcher trying not to cry almost had me crying

2:35 Billy's smile brings me hope and chill

And there's our Superman fellas. I'm calling it now, It's setting up the premise for the final conflict. One way or another, Ryan WILL stand against Homelander. Not just physically but ideologically as well.

I can't believe nobody is realizing the puppets and puppeteers are a reference to Ave Q!!!!! Also, im pretty sure those are the actors doing a cameo.

Homelander told Ryan not to do something if he doesn’t want to, Ryan used his own fathers advice against him.

Scorched Earth, but with Homelander and his son? Or maybe Butchers tumor can give him the power to pull it off?

THERE’S A STAAAAARRRR MAAAANNNNNNNN

I love the parallels between Homelander and Ryan. Not only this scene is a great contrast between Homelander's speech with how he's "better" and "the real hero" but also Ryan's demeanor when it comes to doing what he wants Looking at the people on the set's reaction when Ryan stood up to speak the truth, they all looked terrified, like they were expecting for Ryan to act like Homelander, but instead his approach is...gentle, pleading instead of demanding to keep the cameras rolling. I live for these moments. Also, I also love how Homelander did a 180 in this episode, the past episode he was gaining Ryan's trust by telling him that he doesn't have to do anything that he doesn't want and that no one can convince hom otherwise and here he's telling him to just roll with it. He doesn't want anyone controlling Ryan but HIMSELF.

Billy was a proud dad here.

Here Ryan does what HL does by betraying the script for authenticity, but unlike Homelander in the times where he goes off the script, eg "I am better than you all", Ryan betrays it for something more heartfelt and genuine. Ryan and HL both have that bubbling authenticity that surfaces every now and then through the media facade, but it's clear that Ryan's authenticity is more in line with humanism, whereas Homelander just thinks he's better than everyone else.

I think Ryan used his super hearing when he heard Ashley say go to commercial, small detail

ryan switching sides every episode

Ryan could be the pivotal character that would end up being the ultimate equivalent to this universe's real Superman.

Now THAT is a hero

Loved Butchers little smile there, really was a proud step dad

Bad people don’t like being reminded they could have been better Ryan just did that to Ashley

2:35 he looks so proud

Homelander is the ultraman of this universe then Ryan will be Superman .

Homelander should've been grateful that Ryan was actually raised by a real family instead of trying to make Ryan like him

@kairi4640

Ай бұрын

He's far too spiteful and petty to have that empathy for letting someone else live a more fulfilled life. I get where he's coming from tbh. To see the younger generation getting things you wish you had growing up, can be really painful. Homelander also needs to justify his existence saying his way is the only way, to make him feel better about himself.

Justice for my man Rodger. All he wanna do is cut to commercial

Not many people get the reference between Ryan demanding Ashley to not switch to commercials, just as Homelander did. All in all, cool work by the team!

His mother raised him well.

In a way Homelander should be proud of Ryan. Because Ryan stood up for his beliefs despite others not wanting him to. And in doing so, isn't being controlled and not letting others control him. Something Homelander wanted/wants for himself and for his son Ryan.

Heres my theory. Ryan becomes this worlds version of a true Superman . He'll defeat homelander, and the supers that still support vought will be this worlds super villains that he fights to protect this world. The few heros that are innocent or defect from vought will get to have a chance at being real heros while the villain now have to feed their addictions and evil temptation without vought safety net.

I sure hope Ryan doesnt laser a random nurse and then laser Grace Mallory out of anger in the next episode...

@danieljliverslxxxix1164

Ай бұрын

If you know...

@xxgwxx570

Ай бұрын

tbf, even if it happens we don't know the full context

If Ryan becomes an actual superhero, what do you think his title or name would be? Nobody say Homeboy.

@ray5952

Ай бұрын

Supe boiii

There’s a star man moment

I hope a new Superman is born with this

Ryan is gonna go berserk when he finds out about what homelander “did” to Becca

I wonder how Rachel will react when she realizes that she has a nephew.

@MasterMcnyaw

Ай бұрын

She died

@electro8919

Ай бұрын

@@MasterMcnyaw What do you mean “she died”?

@usfmm

Ай бұрын

There's no proof that she died.

@samuel7909

Ай бұрын

What rachel ? Who is rachel again ?

@electro8919

Ай бұрын

@@samuel7909 Becca’s sister.

All Ryan needs to know is how he was conceived and he'll turn on homie instantly. I guarantee homie will say some crazy ish like "she came unto me," to Ryan and that's what's gonna set him off to take the first strike at his dad.

Ryan slowly turning on him now is gonna be the last thing to sever Homelander's sanity and restraint and set him on a wild rampage. At this point, I wouldn't put it past Homelander go tell Ryan the truth of how he was conceived purely out of spite.

Ryan dying first episode of season 5 would really be an acceleration to the ending

@gj9157

Ай бұрын

I'd hate that tbh

@PlumpsHubris

Ай бұрын

@@gj9157 you may hate it but at least it creates feeling

@znspyder

Ай бұрын

Tv butcher would just turn into comic book butcher at that point

@tranhoanghieu4576

Ай бұрын

he will be locked up is the more likely option

@clementchung919

Ай бұрын

@@znspyder I mean... the show is heading towards the Homelander tries to overtake the president route.

Also, instead of being absolute infuriated (at least until now), Homelander expressed conflict in him. Because just like Ryan, Homelander admired mother figure. Homelander himself had hard hard time to pick between being respected by others or having a mother alongside. I guess we at some point would think the same.

Aced that Talk-No-Jutsu 👏👏

I feel like his story will probably reflect or be similar to Mark from Invincible.

Ryans cooked

@sarasmith2009

Ай бұрын

he cooked, and is cooked. sending prayers his way

0:50 why are they playing a kids channel broadcast in the bar?

Could make a genuine hero outta Ryan yet

"a boy's best friend is his mother" - Norman bates

2:19 I might be over-analysising this but I love how when Ryan mentions Butcher, we're shown Homelander's reaction and ONLY his. It's a subtle way to convey how Homelander is so insecure and self-centered that he is offended by the thought that Ryan would deem him not important enough to mention while Butcher is, despite not being there for his son the entire holiday. And in contrast, Butcher, who actually sents a present to Ryan, didn't care if he was brought up or not. All he cared was Ryan's courage to speak up his mind on live TV. One of the few times Butcher genuinely feels happiness.

Finally Ryan doin the right thing he deserves better than Homelander

Oh snap! 😮 Ryan gonna tuen into superman 🦸‍♂️