Russian authorities reject reports of radioactive leakage into Tobol river | DW News
Flooding has devastated parts of southern Russian and Kazakhstan in recent weeks and tens of thousands of people have been displaced. But as water levels are sinking, scientists say a different crisis may be surfacing. Russian independent media and environmentalists say old uranium mines have been flooded, leaking radioactive material into the Tobol River. Alexei Shvarts, a Russian physicist and ecologist, warns that decaying uranium alpha-particles may cause cancer in humans. Russian nuclear energy authorities at state-owned Rosatom claim that the uranium mines are at no risk of flooding and that radioactive material has not been detected in water sources.
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They're rejecting reports? Must be true then
The ruzzian authorities also rejected there was a disaster at Chernobyl. When they reject - we know it's true.
Would russia lie to you? Absolutely
@kinngrimm
14 күн бұрын
well tbf not just russia Just last year it became public that for almost a year an incident in the US was equally kept secret by public officials and the energy company owning the power plant for almost a year. I might be wrong where it was in the US, but if i recall correctly(please double check) it was in Minnesota where radioactive waste water was flushed into a river.
@jakebhenry2228
14 күн бұрын
No, regardless if public officials keeps it quiet whistleblowers and independent verifiers would have discovered this already by now and in the US radioactive runoff doesn’t happen much at all. Also radiation can be tracked, there isn’t a cover up.
@kinngrimm
14 күн бұрын
@@jakebhenry2228 isn't that exactly what was reported? Equally now in russia though faster detected than the case in Minnesotta last year where they kept it quiet for about a year after the incident.
@kinngrimm
14 күн бұрын
@@bonnie7898 i guess we may have read different reports then
Not radioactive. It’s “special atomic operation.”
@samanthaw4955
14 күн бұрын
Said you…a nobody…😂
if russia is saying no than its probably yes. always take the opposite of ehat they say publicly.
@kjj26k
15 күн бұрын
"If Putin tells you snow's white, HE'S LYING!"
@RandomNooby
15 күн бұрын
I agree, and it applies equally to any superpower, as history has proven time and time again lol
@Nvk95729
15 күн бұрын
And it applies to west also 😂
@chienglao
15 күн бұрын
if us say there's wmd, what they really mean is oil.
@palar4195
15 күн бұрын
advice from Russia: do not eat yellow snow
Russia doesn't fear radiation, they even dug in at Chornobyl.
@gaborrajnai6213
15 күн бұрын
Ukrainians even worked at Chornobyl for more than 30 years. Some of them even climbed into the incriminated reactor, although I wouldnt advice thatone, but they didnt die instanlty.
@gluteusmaximus1657
14 күн бұрын
Plus the soldiers stole stuff that was contaminated as souvenirs! And they ate the carp fish that was held in bassins for studying the contamination of the leaked cooling water! All in one a big eff-up.
@foilhat1138
14 күн бұрын
@@gaborrajnai6213 Ukrainian's didn't recklessly dig into the soil in the red forest causing them to inhale radioactive dust.
@gaborrajnai6213
14 күн бұрын
As I told you, they climbed into the blown up reactor , which still contained some glowing fuel 10 years after the accident, do you think anyone can find anything more dangerous than that in the Red Forest? Theres a PBS Nova documentary about that survey. They wanted to know how much of the fuel remained in the reactor itself, and how much did seeped down into the basement, so they literally went through everywhere where it could be found. With a few decades passed the really nasty stuff has already gone. And thats only reactor block 4, the other 3 blocks remained operational producing electricity with thousands of workers working there every single day up to 2002 as far as I remember, when the powerplant was decommissioned.
@foilhat1138
14 күн бұрын
@@gaborrajnai6213 The whole reason we first learned about them digging in there was hospitals in Belarus reported treating Russian soldiers for acute radiation poisoning. You can believe whatever makes you feel fuzziest inside though.
It's 3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.
When Tchernobyl exploded in 1986, Moscow insisted for a week that no accident happened in the USSR... even when all of Europe was covered in radioactive particles from the USSR, Moscow insisted that it's not their fault, that nothing happened there...
@varoonnone7159
15 күн бұрын
France actually convinced its population that the nuclear cloud had stopped at its borders Rising cancer cases in Corsica prove otherwise
@gaborrajnai6213
15 күн бұрын
Well, not for a week. For a day...
@frankguz55
15 күн бұрын
@gaborrajnai6213 not true, please study history. For three days USSR completely denied any accident, despite Scandinavian countries setting alarms on radioactivity levels. Following Western pressures, USSR admitted that there have been a "minor" accident and that now "everything is under control". It took MORE THAN ONE WEEK for USSR to disclose the real scale of the disaster...
@gaborrajnai6213
14 күн бұрын
Yeah, those alarms went off in Sweden by the same morning, when the accident happened. By noun, the IAEA has already got the approximate location of the source from different readings from multiple measuring stations in Europe. Next day the CIA published a spy satellite image, which showed the open reactor, so from tha on there was no point of denying it.
@gluteusmaximus1657
14 күн бұрын
@@frankguz55 It was a state secret than. Even though the contamination was reported and monitored from several countries outside the USSR. This was too big to brush under the carpet.
They didn't care about their soldiers digging trenches at Chernobyl, why should they care about people out in the Russian countryside?
😂😂😂 What next.... Seriously what next!
@larsrons7937
14 күн бұрын
The next will be that the russians will claim that the West had created some genetically modified beavers that caused this radioactive leak (don't ask me how beavers would be supposed to have accomplished that).
@boardcertifiable
14 күн бұрын
Radioactive spiders probably.
@larsrons7937
14 күн бұрын
@@boardcertifiable Who. Boris the Spider.
How would it be possible to tell there was a radioactive leak? Isn’t the whole country radioactive?☢️
@icu17siberia
14 күн бұрын
it is possible for some nations to monitor and differentiate levels. Even better than when Chernobyl happened
This is terrible. There will probably be a lot more cancer in the next years to come from this water.😢
@WeeWeeJumbo
13 күн бұрын
people all over the comments are making jokes but i don’t think it’s funny
Completely normal phenomenon.
Blame the west for the radiation leak
@foilhat1138
14 күн бұрын
The radiation was seen fleeing towards Ukraine.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
14 күн бұрын
The radiation confessed that it was promised a million rubles by someone in Ukraine. Its ear also fell off.
@icu17siberia
14 күн бұрын
@@FalconAndTrident I for one got it...
😳 .. Gosh, I hope they didn’t just pollute millions of people’s water with radioactive waste .. that can’t be good literally or figuratively … and major PR problem
@JoeyBlogs007
15 күн бұрын
Umm I think they did.
Just get a geigercounter and monitor the region. Radioactivity is very easy to detect.
oh my god.....
A lot of people within the next couple of days will fall out of those awful bad Russian windows.
Of course there is no radioactive leakage, just like there was no radioactive leakage at Chernobyl. The people worry too much about things that no not concern them. All they need to do is work hard and the state will take care of them.
i’m not vicious enough to joke about this
Russia government would rather allow radiation to harm its people than acknowledge the problem. Accepting the problem in Putin's view is a weakness to them therefore lives in Russia mean not much
@icu17siberia
14 күн бұрын
or dismiss it by saying something like "in the west too..." to appease their citizens
If only there was some sort of device to see for sure if people were being exposed to radioactivity. A 'radiation detector', if you will.
They will soon make it illegal to possess a Geiger counter.
Need to report measurements or else it's all just hand waiving. And the comment "thousands of radio nucleotides" doesn't make any sense. Maybe he should be specific.
@JoeyBlogs007
15 күн бұрын
Translation error I suspect, however not certain. He might have meant a Bq ( becquerel ) reading of over 1000. Becquerels measure the rate of radioactive decay, indicating the number of radioactive disintegrations occurring per second within a given volume. If the concentration of uranium in the water is high enough to result in a measurement of 1000 Bq/L or more, it could indicate a significant level of radioactivity and potential health risks, especially if the exposure is prolonged or if the water is ingested. Ionizing radiation can damage nucleotides, being the building blocks of DNA and RNA molecules.
@jptrainor
15 күн бұрын
@@JoeyBlogs007That might explain it.
@meerkathero6032
15 күн бұрын
A physics knows such things. My guess is that the journalist is the source of error or inaccuracy.
@abrakkehakka1357
14 күн бұрын
It’s not only about the radiation, but the heavy metals. Uranium is a heavy metal too, and a lot of other heavy metals are deposited from the mining. The actual consequences can’t be estimated until international teams of scientists investigates all the ares where the water ends up (won’t ever happen). And until Russia allows factual information about the radioactive and poisonous deposits from the mining (they won’t, and likely they haven’t even bother to keep records on possible environmental hazards), so calculations can be made.
@jptrainor
14 күн бұрын
@@abrakkehakka1357 ok, buts what's being reported is a radiation concern and it's being done with the usual low-fact high-emotion approach that often is associated with nuclear reporting.
Karma 🤷🏻♂️
@estelleaustin9205
14 күн бұрын
consequences
1:14 Well, if the mines are above the river and water flows down hill... Well, now I know why Russia doesn't properly educate their people because anyone with a basic education should understand that water always flows downhill.
Mr😮P " Nyet. There is no radiation. I repeat no radiation! " 🤮🤢( ( ((😮)) ) )🤢🤮
This world is in a mess
I thought raw Uranium is harmless unless you concentrate it in a centrifuge or is the uranium there already really concentrated
@gaborrajnai6213
15 күн бұрын
Its harmless even if concentrated. There are different radionuclides, uranium is absolutely one of the most safe one.
@jptrainor
15 күн бұрын
It's mildly radioactive. Regular exposure to high concentration raw uranium can be a health hazard. Mine workers do need to be monitored. But overall, it's not terribly risky.
@kinngrimm
14 күн бұрын
Nope it is a matter of concentration, parts per million. Here in germany we used vertalizer comming from africa for 5 to 7 decades and meanwhile it is reported that this vertelizer also had uranium in it. Only now and onwards reaching the ground water, slowly being washed through the several levels of soil. It is expected that within the next 20 years therefor certain agrarian areas will have increased radiation levels of ground water as it takes a while for it all to reach the ground water and usage of that vertilizer over the decades only increased. edit: grammar
@Elo-hv3fw
14 күн бұрын
@@kinngrimm fertilizer ? ....such as nitrogen, phosphorus and potash ?
@kinngrimm
14 күн бұрын
@@Elo-hv3fw i can't remember what it consisted of in detail other than it included uranium in small dosage in parts per million scaling. Using this once or a couple of times would not have been a big deal, but as it was used regularly for decades the soil got more and more saturated and the rain water desolved it and washed it downwards. There is a nothern agrarian village where the groundwater already is undrinkable because of it. In other areas it will take longer as the structure of the soil is different everywhere. Still eventually it reaches groundwater. I might be mistaken but the report could have been by DW or maybe NRW. Also my intention is not to make you scared, the effects will still take decades to fully come to fruition and not everywhere equally. I would expect that the water treatment facilities here will do the same as in the 70s with the a-bomb testings worldwide, add jod to the water to mitigate. Maybe other ways will be viable too till then i am no expert.
So now what's your choice, Putin? The fire button or the eject button?
through 45 seconds anyway this physicist, or the translator, makes several errors. Alpha exposure as he describes will not cause cancer. Heavy metal radionuclides will. That is what they have. They emit aphas sometimes, but it is the beta and gamma modes that cause the problems.
Karma
@estelleaustin9205
14 күн бұрын
consequences
The ruzzians (Soviets) initially lied about Chernobyl, too.
Doesn't Russia also reject that they are at war with Ukraine?
Everything is okay.😂
Tobol mutants when?
Where are the Russian bots posting on this one???
While most natural uranium will get passed if it is accidentally ingested, some of it will get absorbed. The uranium that gets absorbed will replace calcium and can stay in the body for years or decades. That's also true for many of other radioisotopes that will be found around natural uranium as most lanthanides and actinides are similar enough to calcium from a chemical perspective for the body not to be able to tell them apart. Natural uranium isn't overly radioactive and isn't much worse than ingesting most other heavy metals. Even U-234 has a half-life of tens of thousands of years with U-235 being in the hundreds of millions and U-238 being in the billions. The real risk from this event will be from all the other radioisotopes that will be in the soil around the uranium that will have built up over the eons. Many of those will be much more radioactive, will stick around in the body for just as long if absorbed, and be more readily absorbed by the body.
Russkiy mir !
have a vindaloo you'll get a crash course 👍
Oh yeah, higher ground...... wster doesn't flow downhill....... oh wait.
RuSSians can email to their Chinese comrades and ask for lending them their geiger counters that were sold out when Fukushima was to release treated tritium waste into the sea. Chinese were hysterical and cried on their social media, how could Japan do it to them, refusing any sea food from Japan. That their own CCP was releasing far worse waste into Chinese waters, they didn't bother about that. There must be millions geiger counters in Chinese households.
Not great, not terrible.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces are testing American technologies using artificial intelligence that help detect potential targets on the battlefield using video footage from drones, The New York Times reported. The conflict in Ukraine, as many US officials acknowledge, has become a testing ground for some rapidly developing technologies. "At the end of the day, this is our laboratory now," said Lt. Gen. Christopher Donahue.
I already watched this show.
There will be terrible things surfacing after Z-Putin
Here in the US where I’m at that’s super common. In fact most people have to put radon systems to remove the radiation from their house.
@dlkdyscot
15 күн бұрын
And what substance produces it?
@meerkathero6032
15 күн бұрын
Builds his house on a radon source (wild guess: granite rock) and complains that he might have radon in the basement. That is a completely different issue and can ventilation solves most of these types of issues. The people at Tobol river will face a much worse situation if their main water source gets polluted by dissolved Uranium.
@chris7263
15 күн бұрын
Some people worry about radon gas, but to whatever extent it really is a problem it's a naturally occuring one, not something that escapes from Uranium mines and gets into the water. Radon is not Uranium, these are not he same problems at all.
@gaborrajnai6213
15 күн бұрын
Whats the difference between "natural" uranium and mined uranium? Besides uranium is an insoluble heavy metal, while radon is a gas which gets to your lungs, thatshy its a greater problem.@@chris7263
@kinngrimm
14 күн бұрын
@@meerkathero6032 there might be a few more reasons. Like vertelizer from africa that over decades is washing through levels of soil to eventually reach ground water.(Which is the case here in germany). It could also be because of fracking, where rock and soil is broken up with chemicals to retreave gas, but in the process these mircrofractures allow for rainwater to again wash through the levels of soil of which some may carry substances that are more or less radioactive. edit: or more direct like last year when the case of Minnesota came to be known where the energy plant owner equally to public officials kept it secret that radiated waste water spilled into a river