Just bought a gen 2 version (July 13 2024) of this rifle, and it cycles perfectly out of the box. The recoil also seems really gentle. It came set at gas setting 3, which seems to work really well. As for recoil, shooting 150 grain PMC, it felt like it was fighting me less than the average sawzall, which is great. I am also a small guy (170 lbs) and I had no shoulder bruises at all.

I believe ruger has fixed this issue with the newest of SFARs. Its mostly the 16 inch model that has gas problems. Either send it back or change the gasblock. I'm waiting for my 20 inch SFAR to get delivered to Sweden😊

Mortaring is that action of slamming the gun down while pulling the charging handle.

I have watched tons of videos on this Ruger SFAR and everyone that has trouble with it like this guy I have noticed something. They all have bought the 16" one and every one of them went and changed this and that. I've also watched videos of the 20" barrel SFAR too. And no issues. I have the 20" one and it runs beautifully, great.

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

Check out the comment by @mrdelaware8.

Once you find the ammo it likes it is a great rifle. Good luck with yours. Thanks for the video.

Mine was doing the exact same thing as yours, out of 220 rnds about 50 did not eject, I swapped gas block with aero precision, and I polished the chamber with a spent case and flitz and hit it a little more with a mop and flitz. Went out and ran it and now it ejects flawless, also take the bolt apart and clean under extractor, found alot of brass shavings in there 🤦🏽‍♂️ also for recoil I went with Precision armament HYPERTAP and waaaay better than the one that comes on it .

I have the 16" SFAR and I went with a H2 buffer and Tubbs flat 308 spring. Also gave it some time to break in. Also, make sure you clean that chamber well with a chamber brush. Mine runs well now.

@stephenkluz9733

6 ай бұрын

I had read about the same solution on a forum that addressed these problems. After a new gas regulator from Ruger and even a trip back to Ruger, it still failed to cycle properly. I found out about the Tubb flat wire spring and H2 buffer solution and have been fine ever since. At least 200-250 rounds later and not any problems.

Most of the time its manufacturing quality control and reliable brands or models are visible once it is broken down. I think light sanding and polishing friction areas always make a dramatic improvement if it's not an engineering flaw. If done right a little oil goes a long way. Looking forward to updates, best of luck!

I've talked multiple people out of this rifle. too many issues with the first generation to justify the price vs reliability. in my humble opinion, Ruger rushed the SFAR into production without sufficient R&D. i got lucky and picked up Ruger's SR762 just before they were discontinued. that rifle has been 100% reliable with anything I've shot.

@MrDan1509

7 ай бұрын

Buy a Rock River and be done...theres a reason Law Enforcement uses Rock River!

Thata good u invested money inti changing the parts and even in ur 2nd trip u bought more aftermarket parts and decided to keep a rifle that u have to lube the roundw in each mag to get it to cycle. Very good

I had adjusted my gas block to what I thought was 3 but it wouldn't eject the casing. Turns out Ruger doesn't number their gas block 0-1-2-3, it's numbered 1-2-3-0. So what I thought was 3 was actually zero. Now that I figured that out, it shoots good. Picked it up for $949 on sale and I'm impressed with the weight.

Any marks on the sides of the cases? Might be a tight chamber or rough chamber. I'm sure Ruger will get you taken care of regardless. Hope to have my SFAR out tomorrow. Still working through the gas setting issues that many folks have. Will be swapping out the gas block at some point if I can't run setting 1 suppressed and setting 2 unsuppressed.

I had the same problem in a 300 win mag , it was a problem with the brass i was using .

The stuck case issue is most likely an overgassed situation where the bcg is starting to cycle while there is still sufficient back pressure in the barrel to balloon the case in the chamber. I experienced this with some 175 gr otm 308 ammo...destroyed the case rim on the stuck rounds and bad case head swipe on the rounds that cycled. My solution was to swap the gas block to Aero with more settings, and buffer tuned with h and h2 buffers. I’ve got the rifle running all types of ammo that I currently have on either h or h2 buffers, I prefer the h2 for less recoil, better ejection pattern, and it seems to slow the bcg enough to prevent stuck cases. If you go the factory route, Ruger will likely have you send the rifle back( not a bad way to go... they’re probably getting real good at fixing these rifles). If you go with the updated gas regulator ( if Ruger will send you one) you can swap that out without the need of a gunsmith, gas regulator removal is standard cleaning procedure and Ruger has a video on how to do it. Anyways good luck, once you get it running right you’ll love it.

I have a 20" model and have had minimal issues. But why some many upgrades on a rifle that's not working properly?

Same problem with my 20". I called Ruger and they insisted to send it in. I did and they fixed it. It was back to me within 1 1/2 weeks. The description of what was done was brief. They either repaired the chamber or replaced the barrel. I suggest you send it back, they seemed to know what the problem was from my serial number.

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

I should have dropped it off to them instead of shipping it to them. Since I'm in Phoenix and time building in my plane. Could have flown it up to Prescott Airport and maybe convinced them to pick it up from me there. Oh well.

@MakoVette

7 ай бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself Ruger fixes them at their Mayodan NC facility, not Prescott. You will have to remove all the aftermarket parts and return it to as sold prior to shipping. Ruger replaced the bolt and gas adjuster on my 20", took about 10 days round trip. Cheers!

Everyone I've seen that is having similar issues to yours with the sfar, either send it back to Ruger and they replaced the gas block with an updated adjustable gas block or Ruger sends them a new gas block and has a gunsmith replace it.

Mine did the same . I cleaned it and oiled heavily. I was shooting 150 grain.. it came from gun store dry no oil anywhere and it was dirty … I greased the crap out of it … even the buffer spring also… I now have put 150 rounds and it seems to be ok

@stephenkluz9733

6 ай бұрын

Mine works best if it’s really well oiled.

I have the 16" SFAR & have run Sellier & Bellot 308win 124grs FMJ & had no problems the first 200 rds on setting 3....then changing to setting 2 & still no problems. However after say 100 rds of S&B....i tried a handfull off mil surplus 7.62 rds and that´s when i had the exact same failure to extract like you had....same damage to the casing/rim and after this happend i have not & will not run any 7.62 ammo in my SFAR. Continued to use 308win & have had no problems at all. Store bought 308 win ammo every day !

Break in and or polish the chamber / Feed ramps. The chamber is tight breaking it in will do it

I have the 20" version of SFAR. First time at the range, I tried 3 different brands of ammo, and I was surpriced how big difference it was between them. With one of the brands the rifle act overgassed, throwing brass 2 o'clock. Another (the best) ejected brass 4 o'clock. With the third brand it wouldn't cycle on setting 2 at first. I had to go to 3 for 10-15 rounds. Went back to setting 2, and it would cycle reliably, but not lock back on the last round Other than that I was on gas setting 2 the whole time, and I used the same magazine in the entire "test". My thoughts on it is that it might need 200 rounds through it to make a proper judgment, but it seems it's finnicky on ammo, the way this gas block is designed with the port holes. Depending on the actual drilled size of that holes, you could get a lemon or a rifle that runs well out of the box. It doesn't take much deviation in hole size for things to be crap. I will maybe exchange the gas block for a superlative arms or aero precision adjustable. Also the standar gasblock is in contact with the handguard on my sample, so it would be wrong to call the barrel free floating...the flex in the original handguard is also too big for my taste. I want a more rigid setup. ...but good that AR-15 handguards will fit on this thing. Lots of options to improve things🙂

That was very disappointing to see that type of performance. The SFAR seems to be the Fiat of firearms. Thanks for posting.

I went with a seekins .750 low pri gas block a new rifle length gas tube and pin for good measure and went with an H2 buffer tuned it in and got perfect 3 o clock ejection pattern and went a half turn more for gas for good measure no issuses with or without Suppressor the factory gas block is junk and buffer is to light also make sure the gas block is installed straight and is not making any contact with the handguard i had to grind some spots inside the handguard for clearance but nothing major

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

If I change the gas block, I'm going to go with a rifle speed. For the buffer, spikes tactical tungsten powder buffer. If I make any changes.

I have also seen where the buffer spring is slamming the bolt home so hard that the bullets are actually unseating and progressing forwad into the lands and grooves, which in turn makes almost impossible so extract.

@ICanDoItMyself

5 ай бұрын

That wouldn't be good. I'm planning on putting more rounds through it of varying brands and weights to see if that will break it in. If that doesn't work, then I'm guna send it back to Ruger. I know they'll get me sorted. Not terribly thrilled on the idea of changing handguard and Rifle Speed gasblock. But that's also not a bad option. Might also experiment with a Spikes Tactical Tungsten powder buffer.

It would seem that the chamber is undersized. The bcg didn't even attempt to cycle that means you either have zero gas, they forgot to put in gas rings or far more likely that brass is crazy stuck in the chamber. Its not a gas system problem its an out of tolerance problem. Send it back.

I wss about to buy an SFAR.....ill pass for now. These problems with the Ruger SFAR really surprised me.....

When you check to see if the gas block is tight, use a torque wrench to check the two screws on the bottom of the gas block. You should be able to access them without removing the handguard. The torque value is hard to find but I've seen anywhere from 25 to 35 in/lbs. Ruger has also been replacing the valve in the gas block with a redesigned one in some cases. Also, if you're only using the one magazine, try a different one. Good luck.

I'm about 100 rounds threw mine. I left mine on gas position 2. I'm not having any issues. I'm glad.

@ICanDoItMyself

4 ай бұрын

I'm guna get to 300. If I'm still having the same issue, I'll send it in then.

As much as I enjoyed your video about your upgrades, it would've been nice to see if it ran properly before upgrades. I'm not saying you did anything wrong but checking function before swapping/adding parts is a good idea. Watching your first 3 shots I have to wonder if adding the pdq might have added extra friction or something. I have heard about possible gas block issues but watching the bolt not move at all in slow motion makes me guess its either gas block or something the bolt is getting caught on. As for the cases getting stuck, I've seen brand new factory barrels that are just a hair out of spec in the throat or chamber that cause the case to stick like that.

@ICanDoItMyself

6 ай бұрын

I didn't mention it in the video, but when I took it to the range the second time and tested the recoil pad, I did not have the PDQ in at that point for testing. I experienced the same malfunction.

@DSK_Sean

6 ай бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself have you tried the original "boomer" brake or running your suppressor? I'm roughly the same frame as you just taller at 6'5" 200lbs and the original brake dealt with recoil really well. Watching your optics video now, hopefully things are smoothing out for you with the Sfar, I bought mine used and have never had an issue with it even out to 600 yards. It's truly a pleasure to shoot.

I have not idea what you are all doing to this rifle. I have never had an issue with mine. Groupings of less then 1inch at 100 yrds with PMC X-Tac Match 168gr. Have not had one failure to extract or cycle in over 1000 rds through, with using everything from 7.62 147gr to 308 175gr.

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

Not sure why you're accusing us of doing anything to cause a failure to extract. I bought the rifle, I took it out, I put rounds in it, it failed to extract. I'm not the only one to experience this. I never said in the video that it was a bad rifle or that I hated it either. Just gotta send it back to Ruger to have it ironed out.

@dive9495

7 ай бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself you cut into the upper for your bolt catch and release, changed the muzzle break, put an ambi safety on it and added anti walk trigger pins. So to say you did nothing is incorrect. Could that attribute to your issues?? I don’t know and neither do you because you didn’t take it out of the box and fire it before modifying it.

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

@dive9495 first, I did not cut into the upper. And, I can absolutely say that the modifications I made would not contribute to a failure to eject. That's either a gas system problem or chamber out of spec. Ruger wants me to send it in, which I plan to do this week.

@dive9495

7 ай бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself your right your it’s the lower I miss spoke. Regardless, why not try shooting it stock first before doing any modifications.

Makes permanent.. and non permanent modifications prior to even firing it... Eeeeh.... Pro tip.. check the gasblock make sure it's lined up .. n torqued to spec... Mine has ran flawlessly after the break in... Reason for changing handguard is because of issues with flex.. it hitting the regulator... That bipod is going to exasperate the issue... I plan to change mine just haven't decided with what.. the raptor was a must.. I did the same.. all others were specifically to reduce weight... Had the 3x prism but just went with a 1-6 to take advantage of the round... I'd suggest trying another mag.. and running some hotter ammo while breaking in.. id put a few more mags through n make sure everything is torqued down... Hope it works out.. I absolutely have fallen in love with mine..

Maybe keep the whole chamber oiled?

Did you not read the Manuel. It clearly says to start out at setting 3 and if there is problems put it up to setting 4.

@ICanDoItMyself

8 күн бұрын

@1918Camel so, you clearly did not read the manual, because there are only 3 settings. 3 is the highest, and that's where I started. The problem is a tolerance issue, not a gas issue.

@1918Camel

7 күн бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself My apologies you are correct. I was wrong. I was thinking about 1 being the same a 0.

@ICanDoItMyself

7 күн бұрын

@1918Camel if it was a gas problem, manually cycling the action would eject the spent case. The spent cases were really lodged in the chamber. Unfortunately, I haven't had to to even decide what I am going to do. It's either, buy a bunch of 308, like 300 rounds, to see if it'll break in. Or just send it back to Ruger. Probably the ladder, cuz 300 rounds of .308 just to break in be expensive.

@1918Camel

7 күн бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself You might be interested in this series as he goes through and looks at the various problems with the rifle. He dad problems with the gas tube and gas selector switch. kzread.info/head/PLq5Ba5NuNzd99M15wuGD1FqvtbkaijnAT&si=q6uyeR1J5cgm2Y_Z You might have to send it back and have a new barrel put on it. Also check the ejection pins to see if they both are working right. Good luck.

I have the 16 inch one coming, I'm hoping for something better lol. I've watched every video I can find and although I have seen a lot of failure to eject your issue is probably the worst I've seen they did end up changing the gas regulator on the newer rifles. I'm hoping they've worked out some of the problems , I guess I'll find out. It looks like to me you have a barrel problem it may be a problem for Ruger to take care of. It's supposed to be a softer shooter so that's telling me that there's something seriously off on your rifle. I hope you've worked it out I have high hopes for this rifle.

@ICanDoItMyself

21 күн бұрын

@ronnieboardman1673 I haven't taken care of it yet. My plan was to put ~300 rds through it to see if it would break in. But that's a lot of 308 just to break it in. If I send it to Ruger, I know they'll take care of it. Sorry for an update delay. Hasn't been high on the list of priorities.

I just bought the SFAR and I can’t even get through a whole mag on setting 3 or 2 without FTF or bolt over brass. That was using 168 hornady black and 168 sierra matchking. Contacting ruger tomorrow. Extremely frustrating and disappointed

@ICanDoItMyself

6 ай бұрын

While it sounds like Ruger takes care of customers, it seems like the QC might be a little lacking with the SFAR. Growing pains with a Gen1....?

@user-dt4gc3vi3m

6 ай бұрын

What did ruger do to your rifle once you sent it back? And did it fix it?

@ICanDoItMyself

6 ай бұрын

@user-dt4gc3vi3m ummm, soooo... I haven't called them to send it back yet. I remember when I can't call. When I do have time, I keep forgetting.

“Thou shall injest a bag of richards” 😂😂i caught that! Just another way of stating what you said.Rock on brother good luck with that rifle I hope you make out well.

Trigger pull is important too wanna make sure your pulling all the way thru

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

Trigger pull would have nothing to do with failure to eject. The fact that I had to use a cleaning rod to remove it means it was really stuck in the chamber. I'm not the only one to experience this type of malfunction on the SFAR. Ruger wants me to send it in. I'll be doing that this week.

I respect your honest reviews and you "frank" comments. As a fat and old bastard I applaud you.

Where you get the butpad

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

Magpul Buttpad: amzn.to/482yxEd

@TNTONTHEBEAT

7 ай бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself thanks

I would encourage anyone to save up for more premium brands/models. Yes, you will take a hit financially but the alternative of wasting time and the same amount of money just to get it to work is not a good feeling.

@nickdial8528

7 ай бұрын

That has nothing to do with it. SIG has had problems, POF has had problems, etc...Ruger is a well respected good quality manufacturer....

@frankopanklaric

7 ай бұрын

@@nickdial8528 There are lemons and there are endemic design flaws. The SFAR is the latter. You get what you pay for. Always.

The ruger worked great for me I had no problems you are on the break in of the gun match Ammo and leave gas setting on 2 for 200 rounds. Why try to make the gun look bad do a true review

@ICanDoItMyself

5 ай бұрын

I wasn't trying to make the gun look bad. It was an HONEST first shots experience. I currently have 90 rounds through it. When I can afford to purchase more ammo, I want to get that up to 300 or so rounds. If at that point the problem continues, I'll send it to Ruger for repairs. I'm pretty sure that I still said I like the rifle. Maybe you didn't watch to that point?

send it back

You love it?? Lol. Yeah right

that thing looks bad ass! too bad it sucked lol

That gun needs to go back. If you have to break in a gun for it to cycle. There a problem out the box.

Dude probably overstuffed it dropped bolt on a brand new full magazine

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

Incorrect. First, how do you "overstuff" a magazine? If you put 20 rounds into a 20 round magazine, is that "overstuffed?" Second, I only loaded 10 rounds at a time into a 20 round magazine.

Gas block

It's almost as if making modifications to the buffer or gas system of an AR10 pattern rifle will have negative effects on its reliability. This isn't an AR15. Take it back to factory and break the gun in first to make sure it's not a lemon and your mods haven't caused the problems. Common sense.

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

None of my accessories or modifications would induce this type of malfunction. It's common sense.

@nickdial8528

7 ай бұрын

changing out the buffer Spring absolutely could

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

@@nickdial8528 I did not change the buffer or spring

@nickdial8528

7 ай бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself I thought you said in the video you changed to a different buffer and Spring?

@ICanDoItMyself

7 ай бұрын

@@nickdial8528 I was considering a Spikes T2, but no, I did not change it. Ruger wants me to send it in to them.

Buy a cheap gun…expect cheap gun problems.

@ICanDoItMyself

4 күн бұрын

@broscience5876 it's funny how someone would think $1,000 is cheap. I think it would be more accurate to say, but a new design, expect new design problems. But I get it.

@broscience5876

4 күн бұрын

@@ICanDoItMyself better off saving up for the POF Rogue 13.75.

@ICanDoItMyself

4 күн бұрын

@@broscience5876 I dunno, the POF Rogue has issues as well. But with POF, it'd be easy to drop it off instead of shopping it. Honestly, not that I'm upset with my purchase even with the issues, but I wish I had purchased the Adams Arms P2 308. Oh well, I'm not against having more than 1.