Impressed with your 45-120 groups

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. The tang-mounted peep sights on that gun are a joy to aim with. Such a long sight radius.

That no flinch dry shot is amazing! I can hit things that most shooters only dream of but a dry shot with no flinch on a big gun is way more amazing!!!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

It's gratifying to hear that. Thanks.

NIce! Thanks, was cool to see how much the .45-120 bullet rocked the gong's frame back compared to the .30-30. Thanks for sharing!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

4 жыл бұрын

Heh. That's my favorite part too Joe.

A couple years ago i guided a aussie with a 40‐90 he took 7 different African plains game with one shot kills over various distances it looked like a replica of the Quigley it was one of the most enjoyable experiences of my career!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, that's neat to hear JJ. It's always seemed to me that family of cartridges could do very well in Africa. The rifle in Quigley Down Under was a .45-110, by the way. Very popular move among shooting enthusiasts.

@308dad8

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles wouldn’t mind getting a single shot 45-70. Did you say in another video that you took Moose with a 30-30?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

@@308dad8 oh yeah, I've taken a couple dozen moose with my .30-30. Perfectly sufficient to the task.

@308dad8

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles It’s amazing to hear you say that. I see people saying that 30-30 isn’t sufficient for deer past 35 yards and other crap but I’ve killed deer and coyotes at 200 yards and in with mine shooting 170gn bullets

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

@@308dad8 yeah, there's a lot of people who think they are experts but have no experience in the things they talk about. In the past, almost every moose killed by First Nations people was killed using .30-30's (and many still are). I cast 170 grain bullets for mine from tire wheel weights.

You can definitely see the difference in impact. Thanks for sharing

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, the slow-motion portion at the end especially helps make that clear.

So the shooter is using the "Modified Armchair Position." Interesting and comfortable.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. Yeah, I came upon that position quite by accident Patman. When tenting/hunting on crown land, my wife and I always like to take along a pair of foldable arm chairs. Later, when target shooting, I discovered that, by leaning way back into the chair and having my left leg crossed over my right thigh, I could get as steady an aim as from a properly set up shooting table. It works really well.

@tonycollinsworth7393

3 жыл бұрын

I would think that kick Would be worse leaning back like at the body can’t take any the punishment Just the shoulder

@tonycollinsworth7393

3 жыл бұрын

From the background I said he lives in Alaska

The .45-120 is one hell of a round. The biggest I have shot is a 45-70, kicked like a mule out of a marlin lever action. That Ruger is a nice rifle.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

The Ruger No. 1 I shoot it out of has a heavy barrel, so the weight of the rifle makes the recoil not too bad.

Good shooting some of the best i have seen in long while

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

Wow the gun has a lot of power and love the shooting of the subscribe button and the ads great video 👍🏽

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike. Yeah, that gun slings a big, heavy bullet pretty fast.

Well produced video, very nice.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Johnny!

Thats the kind of rifle that gets fired six times a year two for sighting in and four at game for the year

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. Actually, I put about a thousand rounds through it while developing my load for it (and still shoot it lots!)

Beautiful performance from a beautiful rifle.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jerry.

What you need is the Packmyer rifle soft pad, it really absorbs the recoil of the larger caliber, I use it on my 375 H&H Mag

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Something to consider! Thanks Chance.

My first time seeing your channel. Love the old big bores. I only range out to the .45-70 though.(Henry and single shot handy rifle). I do love my old .30-30 ‘s too to be honest I love the old cowboy guns lol. May you have a blessed New Year!!!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear from someone of like interests. Happy New Year to you as well Jerome.

@EPGunman

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles I am also loving the surroundings y’all are in. The terrain is nice from what I could see in the video!!

Nice rifle, Dang, That first shot made me flinch.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

Hah! Thanks John.

This video has a very cool vibe

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the compliment Mark.

First video. I subscribed. It makes the steel jump a little. 👍

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that! I plan on putting together more videos using that rifle in the future. Very satisfying, the way it smacks steel. Even though I pin the stand into the ground as good as I can, it still only takes a few shots before the stakes pull out of the ground and the whole thing flips over.

Beautiful - both rifles !

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Simon.

That 45-120 is a beast, good looking gun too

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pete. Yeah, I just love that rifle. Especially nice that it has sound, practical use as well as lookin' pretty.

I always thought the Ruger #1, #2 and #3 are beautiful rifles. My dream gun would be a Shiloh Sharps Express chambered for the 45/120 but I could never afford it but after watching you shoot your 45/120 I think that is more recoil than I want to deal with. I do own a Marlin 45/70 which is plenty big for anything around here. I like the history of the caliber as much as anything. Just looking at where you live that is God's country for sure so I would say you are a very lucky man.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

I can sure agree with your preferences in rifles. The .45-120 does give a healthy kick alright, but you can load it down a bit too. I use some filler because the smokeless powder doesn't fill the case. Lovin' it living in this country. We recently obtained a trapline, which gives us the right to build a log cabin on it. That will be this year's project.

@ryankiesow6559

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles could you load it up to the brim with powder instead of using filler could it be shot without the gun blowing up?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryankiesow6559 well, it always depends on the type of powder chosen but, in theory, that may be quite possible because the Ruger No. 1 action is capable of handling very extreme pressures. Should be possible to load it to equal (or exceed) the energy of a .458 Winchester Magnum. That said, don't take what I say as advice; I'm just speculating. Proper, safe load development techniques must be observed when doing such things and done by an experienced reloader.

The classics are classic for a reason.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeedy!

I have an original Winchester 1886 in .45-90,and with a crescent steel butt plate it leaves a lasting mark on my shoulder firing full loads.

@rj4590

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I said shoulder but it’s actually upper arm,otherwise the bottom point of the butt plate will dig in.It still leaves a mark.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@rj4590 The weight of the rifle makes a difference too. Because I have a heavy barrel on mine, it weighs in at about 11 lbs.

@rj4590

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles yes,of course.This ‘86 has a full octagon 26”barrel . It really doesn’t bother me that much as I am used to recoil.l’ve been shooting for over fifty five years and hand load over forty different cartridges.I’m a range officer and instructor at a pistol range,nice retirement job.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@rj4590 Cool!

@453421abcdefg12345

3 жыл бұрын

I think the crescent buttplate is a bit of a sadistic joke from Winchester, there are various theories about why it is shaped like that, but it is not a pleasant option for larger calibre rifles, I have an 1886 in 50/110 but that has the more sensible shotgun size buttplate, felt recoil is all about stock design, you can shoot a 577NE with a properly designed stock and not feel uncomfortable, but even a light calibre with a Winchester style stock can be uncomfortable to shoot, take care !

Nice video thank you!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it Dana!

That Ruger #1 rifle is gorgeous. I really want one in 45-70, with the idea that i could have it rechambered into 45-90 or 45-120. I've also considered a Ruger #3, which doesn't look as nice (to me anyway), but seems a lot more affordable

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say go for it! With smokeless powder (like I use), you might like to go with .45-90 instead of all the way up to .45-120 (I only use half the case capacity on mine). Agreed on the No. 3. I also much prefer the look of the No. 1. Cheers.

with the 45-120 you can face zombies, aliens and godzilla, greetings from patagonia

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that observation!

I was watching to see if you flinched. I ll give it to ya, you were steady as a rock.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Samuel. I watch for that in others' videos too. It's seems to me that every time I've seen an unanticipated non-fire recorded, there's a visible flinch, so it's quite common - even among experts. The majority of my shooting practice over the years has been with a .44 Magnum handgun, which I always left one or two cylinders empty on, to keep on checking myself. I think that has been very beneficial. It's far better to catch any flinching in its infancy, rather than let it become habit forming.

That 45-120 is a hammer. Nothing like big diameter and long bullets with a big case of powder. And a long barrel to burn all that powder effectively. Nice!!!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's a nice gun to shoot alright and very effective on the moose we have, here in Alberta. It's a Douglas barrel, measuring out to 29" with a 1:22 twist, making it well-suited for cast bullets.

That is one special rifle. Future family heirloom I bet. Where did you come by that tang sight? I know Renner used to sell something similar but no longer does.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yes, this one will be passed down the generations, I think. The tang sight can be fitted by a gunsmith, so long as you're willing to sacrifice the tang-mounted safety. It's a Lyman sight, so it shouldn't be too hard to get.

Sick of your videos! Started off fine with my gun collection. Now I must add a Ruger No. 1. Its been a gun i've always thought was cool, now i want it.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. Sorry! By the way, once you get that Ruger No. 1 let me know. Then I'll post some videos of this fine XP-100 I have, chambered for 7mm BR Remington. ;)

Awesome!!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Very nice!! I have a #1 in 243. I guess this is for when a 45-70 just won't do at longer ranges?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, that's the advantage of the .243 alright. Flat-shooting for longer ranges. I also have a No. 1 chambered for .243. Harvested many moose with that rifle.

That’s what I’m talking about. Obviously your No.1 is a custom but I would love to have one in a really interesting caliber instead of the popular or trending calibers they have been manufactured in lately. May I ask who did the barrel/chambering for 45-120 for you?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

That was done by Denny Hanel of Oregon. For more details on it (including the stock) you can check out this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qK2Z2KiHo7GYdKw.html

@redhawk449

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles thank you

I would say the 45-120 hits with a little bit more power then 3030

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. Just a teensy bit more!

That thing really puts a smack down on that target. 45-120 I mean.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah. Fun to watch. The moose don't know what's hit them.

Your good, I like all your KZread stuff We think the same on all things you have posted on KZread I have Winchester highwall 4590 Cast my own 550 Thu 330 gr Nothing like a single shot rifle Take care

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

Жыл бұрын

Well, glad to make your acquaintence Roget!

A match up with a 375 Win big bore would be a better comparison,250gn bullet instead of 170 at appx the same velocity.That 435gn bullet is hard for a 30 30 to compete with.

Nice rifle indeed. Myself I prefer my drilling in 10 gauge X 45-70 blackpowder cartridge. Only because it suits my own hunting needs. If i need a boomer i grab my FN Mauser in 458x2inch American. Be well

Dig your vest and irons love the old calibers n levers

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Roberta. If you like the vest, you may be interested in knowing my wife makes native crafts to order. More on that here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqqksJiKYs3IfcY.html

@robertayoder2063

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles thanks alot just discovered your channel

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertayoder2063 Great! I look forward to hearing more from you.

So did not see a lot of smoke on the Ruger, do you ever use Black Powder with paper patched bullets?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, smoking's prohibited for that rifle. Too much work put into the engraving, custom stock and gold inlay to mess it up with black (and, hence, no need for paper patch either). But I do take it hunting, so I load it with smokeless to get greater muzzle energies. I use my own 540 grain cast bullets (2% tin) with gas checks for muzzle velocities of 1,600 fps (never any leading). It brings down game (including moose) quite nicely.

I know this video is a year old BUT....a couple months ago I traded a beautiful Ruger No.1 in 25-06 for a really nice hex-barrelled Ruger No.1 in 45-120! I have yet to fire it and finding brass is brutal. The original owner included some brass and dies thank goodness otherwise I'd be S.O.L. I wanted to start with black powder and will probably stick with that since I have 45-70s and a No. 1 in 9.3x74r if I really want to punish my shoulder. I reloaded 2 rounds with 105-110grns of 2F as that was all I could cram in. I was wondering if you've tried 3F and if so how much is too much? Thanks in advance. I'm in Ontario BTW. Cheers!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Bubba. Looks like you got your hands on a nice rifle there! I wish I could help you out more with the black powder loads, but I only shoot smokeless. The action on a No. 1 is about the strongest in the industry though, if that helps. Don't take my word on it, but I don't think it's possible to blow it up using black powder.

@bubbathebubster7765

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles Hahaha, thanks. Yeah they're built like tanks for sure. I guess I'll just keep playing with BP for now until I get a feel for it. I may test smokeless loads in my other No. 1 (9.3x74R) in order to get a feel for max loads in that caliber before stretching out the 45-120. Love the videos my friend! Cheers.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 ай бұрын

Always something to keep in mind.

That is a very accurate rifle, for some reason people appear to be frightened of the 45/120, I think they read the theory rubbish written by "gun writers" about getting a broken shoulder, or worst, as demonstrated here there is very little of the broken shoulder recoil they read about, is there a reason you chambered your Ruger No1 in 45/120 rather than 450 Nitro Express ? My 45/120 is in a Sharps but I do have Farquharsons in 577NE and 475 No2 NE, and in an 8Lbs rifle, they do give a bit of a jolt, keep enjoying your rifle, it looks a good shooter! Chris B.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

To tell the truth, the reason it's chambered for .45-120 is because the previous owner had it custom-chambered for it. But, once I saw it, I knew it was going to be perfect for me (and not likely to draw high price from others, since it's so specialized in terms of reloading requirements). So I waited until the price came down (about a year) and then snapped it up. It's a great rifle alright and very accurate. Just a joy to shoot (and hunt with). Not that bad for recoil (about what a 7mm Mag will produce), even my wife shoots it occasionally.

Model 94 Winchester is a good choice for them 170gn cast bullets

How powerful would a theroretical 45-250 be

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

In theory, it can exceed what a .458 Winchester Magnum can provide.

45-120 wins me over once again

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it interesting Andrew.

Greetings! Can you tell me if 45-110 dies can be used to reload 45-120, if there are no 45-120 dies around? Thank you!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting question. I would suspect not because there's likely a very slight taper on the case that might differ between the two. Reloading manuals provide the dimensional specs, so you might want to check that out.

@hawknives

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles Thank you much for the answer back, Brother! I bought the Pedersoli 45-120, and need reloading dies. hard to find now days. I know where there is a set of 45-110 dies. Thank You again! Hawk.

@charlesboston1

Жыл бұрын

yes 45-110 dies will work . i use 45-70 dies for my 45-120 . if your not loading to magnum levels of pressure , you only need to neck size the brass , even 15 or 20 loadings later ...... if you are loading to magnum levels of pressure you will have more issue with primer pockets going loose than case expansion that needs to be resized

Ha a Ruger #1 Re-barreled and chambered for the .45 3 1/4 back in the late 70's when RCBS firs came out with the 3 1/4 case. I used 75 gr. of 4831 and latter a full case of 5010 powder with a Hoch 550 gr Paper patched bullet. Both slow burning and left unburn powder but they shot around 1 " at 100 yds. Recoil was also softer.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

You're the only other person I'm aware of who has a No. 1 chambered for .45-120! Those sound like some mighty hot loads you're describing. I use a gas-checked 535 grain bullet and keep mine to around 1,600 fps. To achieve that I use only 40.0 grains of Accurate 5744.

@garycorbier9123

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles Long time to reply, Actually the case full of 5010 does only around 1,300 fps. The powder is very slow burning. No longer own the rifle a friend of mine loaded some rounds with around 90 grs of 4350 and a 405 gr cast bullet for around 2,100 fps or so. An IDIOT thought it would be funny to pull the 405 gr and replace it with a 550 gr bullet. He did this with out my knowledge and gave the rifle to me to shoot. Like to knock my arm off... It put a bulge in the barrel and the case was firmly stuck. Told him to buy the rifle or everyone in the club would know about his stupidity. He bought it.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@garycorbier9123 sounds like you need a better class of friends! ;)

@garycorbier9123

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles He wasn't a friend just someone who knew a friend of mine.Don't know what ever happened top him

Thanks for the info. Beautiful gun. (My 450 Marlin carbine kicks harder than this beast (37ft/lbs. vs. 31)--I assume the heaviness of the Ruger mitigates the recoil & makes it manageable.)

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Your welcome and, yes, I think the weight of my rifle compared to your carbine is what makes the difference alright.

@dennistaylor6486

Жыл бұрын

Do you shoot a 435gn bullet in your 450 Marlin?

Is there a good reason to use 45-120 over 45-70? I'm thinking of buying a big "frig off" rifle one day, but this looks too powerful for me!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

In truth, I think the advantage over a 45-70 ends at about the 45-90 mark Lee. My rifle was chambered for .45-120 when I bought it (used), so that's what I run with. But, the way I load it (smokeless), it wouldn't make any difference if it was a .45-90, since my cases are only half full. That said, I can hurl a big, heavy bullet and pretty high velocities compared to .45-70 and do so with 1/2 or 1/3 the chamber pressure. I hunt moose with my gun and like to use my own cast bullets, so I want a fairly flat trajectory (within cast bullet limits), substituting bullet mass for velocity and caliber size for expansion to get high energy on target.

@roycesjourney37

3 жыл бұрын

That's something people don't consider. Big, heavy bullets going between 1200 and 1600 fps have insane straight line penetration. Very litte hydrostatic shock compared to higher velocities. Pokes a big hole through both lungs and any bones that get in the way. That is one bad ass rifle.

@leeham6230

3 жыл бұрын

@@roycesjourney37 Interesting. I didn't know this; I figured the more energy on target, the better. Now I see it is more complex than that.

@roycesjourney37

3 жыл бұрын

Lee Ham, Kieth Garrett of Garett Cartridges said he got the most penetration at those velocities. Two trains of thought in hunting. One) massive energy dump 2) slow, steady, proven penetration. Neithet is wrong, but you loose less meat with the slow and proven approach.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@roycesjourney37 Related to this is the issue of deflection when shooting through bush. I had often heard that slower, blunt bullets get through better, so I decided to test that claim. This video I made shows the results of that test: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3-Nt6l_hdWfpLw.html

Had a .50-140 years ago it beat the crap out of me . It was to big of a gun to do much hunting with 14 pounds with a 34 in barrel changed it to .40-65 . That .45-120 is a beautiful rifle.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yeah, there are limits to what the human body can take! Fortunately, by developing my own load, I'm able to keep the recoil to a tolerable level (for both me and my wife). It's actually not bad at all, shooting from the standing position.

Geeezzz that a fucken kicker of a mule !

The 30/30 moved it enough for me

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

11 ай бұрын

.30-30's do the job alright. I've brought down many moose with them.

My 4590 velosity with 390 grain gas checked is 2300 fps

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Good for you Wilma. For me, I halted at 1,600 fps with my 535 grain bullets - not because I couldn't load them to go faster (I could, since the case is only filled to half capacity and the Ruger No. 1 action is well able to take much more pressure) - but because, at that level, I had reached a point where the recoil was something both me and my wife would find most shootable.

It sez 45-120, but no black powder smoke?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

That's correct Kent. I use smokeless because I want a little more muzzle velocity than black powder can provide and the Ruger No. 1 action is strong enough to handle it.

I would like to have a sharps 45-120 we're can I fine one!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

I think you can put one on order, directly from Sharps. Quite a backlog from what I hear though.

@jtcustomknives

3 жыл бұрын

Shilo will make you one for around 3k$-8k$ depending on options and it’s a few year wait I believe

Should be able to take out Godzilla with that rifle

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. Maybe I did! (which is why no one sees him around anymore).

are you in Ontario< Calgary here , Cheers

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

6 ай бұрын

Nope, I'm in the Capital City of Alberta! Just a stone's throw away bud. ;)

@petermurdoch3001

6 ай бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles cool, nice you have the space to shoot,

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

6 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, plenty of spaces on crown land. This was recorded in the Elk River/Lodgepole region. @@petermurdoch3001

Since your Ruger No. 1 has made it to the Official List of Banned Weapons of War, I would like to volunteer to take it off your hands before the RCMP is at your door.

two minuets into the video before I can hear anything you say, really!!!!!!! Vaya Con Dios

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that Jim. That was a really windy day in the open field, making it difficult. Since then, I've upgraded my camera and audio equipment to improve the quality in that area.

@jimkemp566

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles well sir, you did not offend me, I accept your apology, but it was not needed. And in all reality, I was referring to the music. I am not sure if you were planning to talk over the music or not. If you were it was not working until you faded the music out. I was fast in my judgement on your video. I have learned every thing I know about guns and shooting from reading and for the last few years from the internet. You really have to sort through what is mostly entertainment and the chance to learn some very incredible advice, on shooting and guns in general. I enjoy both very much. But the real knowledge that can be found here is incredible. In fact I can't absorb enough of it. I admire the people like you that share your knowledge, it has been somewhat kept in certain circles. Thank you, and all the folks that put themselves out there in front of us all, to help. The two rifles that you show are very beautiful works of art, in appearence , and function am sure.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimkemp566 Thanks Jim!

shooting non gas checked bullets? as thats what i saw in pictures gonna lead up your bores with those velocities

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

You might have seen some pictures of the bullets taken before the gas checks were applied Forrest. I put gas checks on the bullets used for both those rifles. I even make the gas checks myself (from pop/beer cans). Cheers.

@forrest5050

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles neither one of those bullets in picture have place to put gas check just sayin those are low velocity bullets as the bases are bare and exposed to the melting heat you get from high velocities gas checked bullets have recessed edges so the gas check ends up same diameter as the bore i cast bullets my self by the way you are one heck of a good shot yer living the dream

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@forrest5050 ah, I see now why you're coming to that conclusion. Yes, in the case of the .45 cal it is a plain-based bullet. The .30 cal does have a recess for gas check, but the .45 does not. The reason for the .45 cal not having a recess for a gas check is because it's primarily designed for use by black powder shooters. For them the velocities only get up to about 1,400 fps, so a plain-based bullet will work. I, however, load my cartridges with smokeless and get that 535 grain bullet chugging along at 1,600 fps. At that speed you're correct in saying a gas check is needed. Solution? I put a gas check on the bullet anyway. It seems not everyone is aware that it can be done. I make my own using thin pop or beer can metal (it's important that the gas check be thin, so that it swages onto the bullet base when going through the lubrisizer). If you'd like to see for yourself how it's done, I have a whole video devoted to it. Works really well. Here's that video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnZ21KiakqbXqZc.html Thanks for your comment Forrest.

@forrest5050

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles oh well not trying to harrass you but what yer saying is impossible i know how gas checks go on there has to be a recess for it to go on neither bullet has that

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@forrest5050 well, I've been casting for over 40 years and I'm the creator of the 10,000 member "Bullet Casting & Reloading - Powder Coating Free Zone" group on Facebook, a contributor to the Cast Bullet Association, in contact with many, many bullet casters, but what do I know? You say it's impossible, so it must be - even though I provided you with a video showing it actually being done before your very eyes. Oh, look. Here's another video I have of me actually making the gas checks: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqxp1s-Te8LKmqg.html Cheers!

Or Ruger no# 1 in 45- 120 were can I fine one

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

To have it in .45-120 you'll have to get a gunsmith to custom-make it for you, because Ruger never offered the No. 1 in that chambering.

Did i miss it? What range?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

My recollection is that the distance wasn't very far James. Something like 60 yards.

I just purchased two 4570 rifles my first one is a Pedersoli Quigley down under and my second one is a Marlin lever GBL 4570. It's been raining quite a bit so I havent really done any shooting with neither rifle. I'm working on a BACO .446" dia paper patched bullet load with 60 gns of Triple 7.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

Ай бұрын

That should be interesting. Thanks for your comment.

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That’s interesting never heard 45-120. I shot 45-70 really like that but it kicks like a mule so I’m guessing 120 would even hit harder

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

The rifle in this case generates 31 ft-lbs of recoil - which is about the same as an average 7mm Mag. My wife shoots it fine (she's a tough, little gal).

@richardhenry1969

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles sure looks like it kicks pretty good while you are sitting in the chair. But all kidding aside there is a lot to be said for a gun that shoots that flat. I really like it going to put that on my wish list.

was that 30-30 an 1894 ?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is Ross.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@chris mclaughlin It's a tang-mounted Lyman peep sight Chris. Works super well; more accurate than open sights and quicker to aim.

More comparable to a .30-06 than a .30-30 wouldn't you say?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

For sure. But my objective was just a 2-ends-of-the-spectrum demonstration; not seeing if the two equate.

Ruger is a tack driver with power of a freight train 🚂

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, this one does the trick alright.

@bandpassmess

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles Whats sad my family all hunted as a child I dreamed of owning that model 458 wm To go big game hunt ! I WOULD BE A ECO CRIMINAL IF I WENT TO GO ON A BIG GAME HUNT TODAY . It was cool back then not so cool today!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@bandpassmess depends on who's in your circle is, I guess. I would be looked down on by my in-laws if I didn't hunt big game (my wife is Native). We raised our children on moose meat.

@bandpassmess

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles We were small game and fishing I gutted many rabbits.

Can't hear got volume all the way up

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that Brad. I've begun turning the volume up on later videos. Sort of a learning thing.

Where are u buying ur brass

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

I bought a bunch of them (150 cases) online from an outfit called "The Bullet Barn", located in B.C. Cost nearly $4.00 a case, but the cases last forever. I've reloaded them all many times already.

@wilmamcdermott3065

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles they actuly sold to. Aguy here in alberta so no longer lois and her hubby running the bullet barn and their prices came way up

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@wilmamcdermott3065 Thanks for the update. Last time I spoke to the former owners, the husband was very ill, so I hope they're okay.

@wilmamcdermott3065

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles hope he gets better

@wilmamcdermott3065

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles the bullet barn is now in spirtriver alberta prices went up

I want a gun that can handle 45-120 with modern propellant

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

The Ruger No. 1 is the strongest production-made action on the planet, so it's well able to handle smokeless (loaded properly, of course). Sharps makes good rifles in .45-120 too, but I hear they advise against it with their firearms. The chamber pressures for .45-120 using smokeless are not really that extreme though. Less than for a .45-70 actually.

@dustinontaiyabbi5608

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles a sharps style. Just the look

@dustinontaiyabbi5608

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles do you think the ruger could handle 45-120with modern propellant

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@dustinontaiyabbi5608 Yes the No. 1 can. That's exactly what I'm using in this video.

I've got some special guns for trade too!!!

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not trading mine! ;)

A 535 gr bullet compared to a 170gr bullet? Hmm I wonder which one hits harder

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. The suspense!

Strat rifle....I want to sbr it

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting, I guess!

@jamesdeek7039

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles I like the punishment

Better without the distracting and pointless music.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Mike.

120 grains... that's a whole lot of powder for a 45. ACP.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. Yeah, I say. Because it isn't a .45 ACP!

A 120mm case and still only 1600fps??? Straight sided cartridges really suck no matter how long they are eh?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. That same case can be loaded to double the charge (assuming careful testing along the way) and produce the same energy as a .458 Winchester Magnum. For me, the limiting factor is the cast bullet (inaccuracy and leading will result at much higher velocity/pressures). Were I to use a jacketed bullet, I could double that. I simply like getting my game using the bullets I make myself and, in the end, the energy produced that way is already more than sufficient.

@Bowfella

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWaytoNativeChronicles Ah that's interesting. I was wondering why a 120mm carteridge was only 1609fps lol.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bowfella the reason for the length of the case lies in it's original intent for use with black powder, which has far less energy than modern smokeless powders produce.

@charlesboston1

Жыл бұрын

@@Bowfella not a 120mm case ..... the case is 3.25 inches long and the 120 is a reference to 120 grains of black powder that it will hold

I'm trying to figure out the comparison. You would have to be a complete neophyte to think 30-30 comes close to 45-120.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

Heh. So you mean you watched it because you actually thought it would be a *close* comparison? Most people watch it just to see a comparison - already certain it's obviously a lop-sided match. Just for comparison as the title says, buddy!

@leeham6230

3 жыл бұрын

Not every comparison is to see which one is better; you're thinking of the word "contest".

Not a good influence for thos3 who understaand firearm gun safety?

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

Жыл бұрын

In what way?

Hate the "I'm cool, I'm bad" music riff. Childish....

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

No podia ser de otra manera RUGER SIEMPRE A LA VANGUARDIA DE TODO.MUY BIEN POR ELLOS 👍 . Y viendo este video me parece que me quedo corto con el cartucho y su retroceso. Antes era de polvora negra y ahora con los nuevos tiposde polvora el asunto cambia mucho. De todas maneras no deja de ser un CARTUCHON INFERNAL.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Yes, the advancement of gunpowder has changed things for the better.

That was a pretty weak load for a number 1.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

From one perspective you could say that. With my load the energy at the muzzle is about what a 7mm Mag would produce. From the perspective of using cast bullets however, it's right up there in terms of performance. Cast bullets don't do well at velocities jacketed bullets can handle because inaccuracy and leading results. So, to compensate, a cast bullet shooter will (especially for hunting) tend to go with heavy bullets to compensate for speed. The large diameter bullet also makes up a bit for less expansion.

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@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

That's the shortest comment so far! ;)

Watch Hickok 45 to become better

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

He's good alright. I really like his channel. But he's not a hunter unfortunately.

What is Trudeau going to ban next???????

I'm not impressed. What is that 30 yards.

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't an accuracy test Greg. Just a comparison of how hard each cartridge hits steel (as the title of the video says). For something to do more with accuracy (shooting the same gong used in this video), you can check this out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z3aZs7ifpLbefLw.html

Should go visit a barber. And get cleaned up. So folks can tell its not a woman.

@wesp7357

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe go back home to cry? Dumbest comment for literally no reason. Grow up

@TheWaytoNativeChronicles

3 жыл бұрын

@@wesp7357 And I have a live-in hair dresser for a wife. I can get "cleaned up" anytime I need to! ;)

@got2kittys

3 жыл бұрын

You know what kind of guys are obsessed with other mens appearance? 👥

@453421abcdefg12345

3 жыл бұрын

Jonathon Echols, Not sure what kind of women you hang around with covered in hair, but you should be more careful!

@jonathanechols9985

3 жыл бұрын

@@453421abcdefg12345 i was referring to people not be able to tell a man from a woman. Because of the long hair. Man should look like man. Not woman.

Yeah, that no flinch....On the good stuff, or Ultra Depends?